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PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 24, 2000
12:30 P.M. - COMMUNITY SERVICES CONFERENCE ROOM
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
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I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m.
Commissioners Present Current Meetina Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Wayne Connor X 16 4
Ronald Gregory, Chairman X 18 2
Kristi Hanson X 14 0
Neil Lingle X 15 2
Richard 0, Donnell X 17 3
Chris Van Vliet X 18 2
John Vuksic X 17 1
Staff Present: Phil Drell, Planning Director
Steve Smith, Planning Manager
Martin Alvarez, Associate Planner
Shawn Kirkpatrick, Code Compliance
Gail Santee, Senior Office Assistant
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: October 10, 2000
Commissioner Connor moved, seconded by Commissioner Vuksic, to approve the
minutes of October 10, 2000, meeting. The motion carried 7-0.
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
A. Commissioners Vuksic, Hanson, and Lingle will attend the November 7,
2000, Planning Commission meeting in support of a height exception for the
villas in Portofino. Commissioner O'Donnell will also attempt to attend.
B. Commissioners were asked to submit projects completed within the last year
for Council/Comission year-end event.
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C. Commissioner O'Donnell asked about the external accessory lighting some
of the restaurants have installed and are displaying, among them Hooters
and the chimney on the Blue Coyote. Staff will investigate.
IV. CASES
A. Final Drawings
1. CASE NO.: RV 00-7
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MARION FERGUSON, 74-898 Leslie
Avenue, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval to park
RV tent trailer in driveway
LOCATION: 74-898 Leslie Avenue
ZONE: R-1
Action:
Commissioner Connor moved,seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell,
to continue the case as requested by applicant. The motion carried
7-0.
2. CASE NO.: RV 00-08
APPLICANT(AND ADDRESS): E. CLARKE ANDERSON,43-420 Alabama,
Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval to store 19'
trailer in front yard.
LOCATION: 43-420 Alabama
ZONE: R-1
Staff distributed photos of the applicant's site. Notification was sent to
property owners within 300 feet of this residence. One opposing letter and
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one opposing phone call have been received. The ordinance requires that
the vehicle be substantially screened from adjacent properties and the public
street with landscaping, solid walls, fences, or gates that meet City
standards. The applicant proposes to install a 6' high gate in front of the
vehicle only 8' from the street and screened with a row of ficus trees on the
east side. The applicant's front yard is well kept and quite nice. Placing the
motor home and fencing would take up that space. Staff believes that the
placement of the vehicle will detract from the appearance of the residence
and will be imposing. Staff recommend the request not be approved.
Mr. Don Rowan, an adjacent property owner attending the meeting, stated
that driving through the neighborhood, the lot seems too narrow to
accommodate the vehicle.
The Commission noted the the RV is higher than the house and will be very
close to the street making it difficult to screen.
Action:
Commissioner Hanson moved, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell
to deny the request due to 1) the applicant's yard is well kept and
quite nice, 2) the placement of the vehicle will detract from the
appearance of the residence and will be imposing, and 3) the RV is
higher than the house and will be located near the street making it
difficult to screen. Motion carried 7-0.
3. CASE NO.: RV 00-5
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): WILLIAM E. LEITCH III, 74-582 Fairway
Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval to park and store
10 foot high and 20 foot long RV in front yard
LOCATION: 74-582 Fairway Drive
ZONE: R-1
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Action:
Commissioner Connor moved,seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell,
to continue the case as requested by applicant. The motion carried
7-0.
4. CASE NO.: SA 00-90
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): CLASSIC PARTY RENTALS, 75-060
Mayfair Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92211
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of business
identification signage
LOCATION: 75-060 Mayfair Drive
ZONE: S-1
Applicant is the new owner of the former "A Star Rentals" on Mayfair and
Greenway (42nd). Staff distributed photos of proposed building signage. On
the west elevation, a 3' x16 wood, non-illuminated, sign with black lettering
reading "Classic Party Rentals" is being proposed. Staff had suggested using
individual letters along with their logo to accomplish a better looking sign
exposed to Mayfair and Greenway and 42nd which is punching in from Cook.
Commissioner Hanson asked Mr. Leon Bennett, the applicant's
representative, why the sign is being moved. Mr Bennett state that the new
street, Greenway, is being built up and the sign becomes lost and there is a
6'wall plus a 3' bank. The lot in front is currently vacant but there is a project
coming through.
Applicant is also proposing a 18" high wood sign on the front elevation on the
facia on Mayfair. Mr. Bennett thought the wood sign would look better.
Commissioner Vuksic asked if there any other complete signs or are they
individual letters in the business neighborhood. Mr. Bennett stated that
there is a mixture through the area.
Commission Vuksic stated that the sign facing Cook Street should certainly
be individual lettering and didn't see why the other shouldn't also be
individual lettering. One sign sets precedent with new sign where the older
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ones aren't quite as nice. Mr. Bennett asked for an explanation. Members
of the Commission responded that individual letters look more sophisticated
than a single painted sign. They tend to stand out and are more three
dimensional. Ascetically, they look better. Wood deteriorates faster,
painted signs are flat, and you cannot be sure of quality of flat wood sign.
Action:
Commissioner Vuksic moved, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet,
to approve the submittal with individual letters at the facia along the
Mayfair elevation and individual letters in a single line below the
accent band on the building on the Cook Street elevation. Motion
carried 7-0.
5. CASE NO.: MISC 00-24
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MARSHA COCKINS, 72-876 Sierra Vista,
Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of 6-foot wood
fence along side yard and 3'10" wood fence for front yard
LOCATION: 72-876 Sierra Vista
ZONE: R-2
Mr. Alvarez distributed photos of the site and the neighboring yards.
Applicant proposes to install a 6-foot wood fence along the side yard with a
3'10"wood fence for the front yard. All fencing would be 15 feet from inside
of curb and desert landscaping would be added.
The wood material for the fence is an issue. Wood is not designated as a
decorative material because of its lack of durability in the desert climate.
Recommended approved materials are wrought iron, stucco, and slump
stone. Applicant indicated other materials would be financially unfeasible.
The majority of the fencing in the neighborhood is wood fencing.
The issue of putting a fence around the house is a separate issue from that
of screening the motor home. The proposed fence conforms to the height
and setback ordinances. It's location and height are not a consideration for
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this Commission. However, if the fence were proposed with some
articulation and some landscaping, the Commission would be more apt to
agree. Applicant is agreeable to not putting a fence across the front yard.
The motor home is actually 30 feet from street, and would be behind a 6'
fence. Historically, the Commission has not approved plans of screening an
11' motor home with a 6' fence unless the vehicle is sitting far back in the
yard and can be substantially screened from view by landscaping. In this
case, the RV will be close to the fence.
Commissioner Gregory explained to applicant that the Commission is not in
favor of wood fences; that the Commission has not approved front yard
fences as a way to upgrade neighborhoods, that adequately screening RVs
could be a different issue from the fencing, and that the Commission
generally does not approve of walls running around houses thereby isolating
the house from the neighborhood. It was recommended that the applicant
tie in the motor home screening with the fencing in the same process. There
should be some thought to articulating the wall and adding landscaping to
give the new fencing some interest and soften its impact. Commission would
also like to see the proposed gate's detail.
Action:
Commissioner O'Donnell moved,seconded by Commissioner Connor,
to continue the case to allow applicant to amend current application
with the advice of staff to focus on screening the motor home.
Motion passed 7-0.
6. CASE NO.: MISC 00-25
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESSI: DR. JERRY MEINTS, 71-450 Painted
Canyon, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of office facade
remodel
LOCATION: 73-302 Hwy 111
ZONE:
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Dr. Meints' office building is right next to the Red Barn. He is proposing a
Santa Fe-style building. Dr. Meints stated that his practice had occupied
this building since 1984 and this is the second time he has visited with this
Commission. In 1990, the Commission approved a similar face lift, but the
economy fell because of the Gulf War and nothing was done. This time, they
are excited about the City's desire to assist and they need to expand the
waiting room to accommodate their clients. The lower part of the structure
is a parking structure that the City approved a few years ago. They intend
to put a little facade in front and not change the structure. The front view of
the waiting room is an expansion of the current waiting room with the
addition two handicap equipped bathrooms, enclosing the existing stairway
to keep everything indoors, and adding planters.
Commissioner Hanson stated that it would be more attractive if the detail
were continued around the back by adding false openings or punctuations.
The proposal is to keep the current awning and put another over the other
southwest facing window. Commissioner O'Donnell stated that in
consideration of the architectural changes other types of screening might be
more in keeping with the upgrades being proposed such as add Spanish tile
or a trellis. A trellis would provide the benefit of more shading on the
massive wall and window and door openings.
Commissioner Vuksic asked how thick the parapets were. Dr. Meints stated
they would probably be a 2x4" frame with plaster. Commissioner Vuksic
suggested making them as much as 12" thick in the visible areas would
compliment the proposed detail. He also suggested replacing the horizontal
window with three square punched-in windows to follow the line of the
proposed architecture. Dr. Meints explained that there are oak file cabinets
under the window and they need higher windows so people walking by can't
see inside. However, he will see what can be done.
Commissioner Vuksic stated that overall, it looks very good.
In the rear of the building, Dr. Meintz intends to pave the back parking and
cut out the bamboo and bushes. The parking lot space meets the parking
requirements for the increase in the square footage. The Red Barn is going
to put in a brick wall. It is his intention around the back keep it as simple as
possible and not put any face lift on that side. Commissioner Hanson
suggested that something should be done to break the starkness. Mr. Drell
stated that the City will be extending the alleys and turning them into real
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streets. That the time will come when the buildings backing the alleys will
have to become more attractive.
The parapets are high enough to screen the building mechanicals. Vandals
have taken the metal off the trash enclosure and repairs do need to be done.
Action:
Commissioner Connor moved, seconded by Commissioner Hanson,
to continue the case to allow applicant time to incorporate the
Commission's suggestions. Motion was carried 7-0.
7. CASE NO.: CUP 00-16
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESSI: ROBERT GIBSON, PO Box 4377, Palm
Desert, CA 92261-4377
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of detached
accessory structure in rear yard
LOCATION: 73-069 Ironwood Street
ZONE: R-120,000
Plans were presented to the Commission. Request is for a detached
double garage in the back corner of the property. Remodeling of the
house is underway. The recent code amendment requires a Conditional
Use Permit to locate structure with a 12' setback. This structure is 15'
from south property line and 15' from rear property line. Staff
recommended approval. Commission suggested that the structure be
moved 20 feet from the rear property line and be turned slightly to get
around the trees to the west.
Action:
Commissioner O'Donnell moved, seconded by Commissioner
Connor, to approve the detached garage with a minimum 20 foot
rear setback and 12 foot side setback. Motion carried 7-0.
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8. CASE NO.: MISC 00-26
APPLICANT (AND ADDRES$y MICHAEL JACOBS, President,
Newport Clock Gallery, 73-255 El Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval to install 11-
foot high street post clock in public right-of-way on patina post
LOCATION: 73-255 El Paseo
ZONE:
Staff presented Commission members with renderings of 11-foot high
street post clock to be installed in public right-of-way on patina post.
Action:
Commissioner Connor moved, seconded by Commissioner
O'Donnell, to approve the 11-foot post clock as presented. Motion
carried 7-0.
9. CASE NO.: SA 00-100
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESSL- IMPERIAL SIGN, 46-120 Calhoun,
Indio, CA 92201 for FOXX DEVELOPMENT, 73-111 El Paseo, Palm
Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of double
faced internally illuminated monument sign
LOCATION: 73-061 Fred Waring Drive
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ZONE:
Mr. Smith distributed a material sample of the monument sign. It is
located across from the McCallum Theater, east of Monterey. The
monument is "F" shaped. The horizontal top of the "F" will show the
company's name, Foxx Development. The horizontal second bar will
eventually indicate the name of another tenant.
Action:
Commissioner Connor moved, seconded by Commissioner
O'Donnell, to grant approval of the monument sign. Motion carried
7-0.
10. CASE NO.: SA 00-102
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS, IMPERIAL SIGN, 46-120 Calhoun,
Indio, CA 92201 for SWISS DONUT
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of revised
signage
LOCATION: 73-407 Hwy. 111
ZONE
The existing identification is a can sign. Applicant proposes to put
another, slightly more stylish "Swiss Donut" can sign with cranberry
colored letters on a light background. This is consistent with signs in
same building.
Action:
Commissioner Connor moved, seconded by Commissioner
O'Donnell, to grant approval of the revised sign.
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11. CASE NO.: SA 00-89
APPLICANT (AND AQQRES�SL HUGH JORGENSON, 45-355 Taos
Cove, Indian Wells, CA 92210 for JIFFY LUBE, Homa, LLC, 9200 W.
Sunset Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA 90069
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of north wall
detail
LOCATION: 42-275 Washington Street
ZONE: P.C.
The current north wall is a 12' 6". Staff posted plans showing the
replacement wall will be 6' allowing passers-by a view of the arches on the
main building instead of a massive blank wall. Applicant will install
planters.
Action:
Commissioner Connor moved, seconded by Commissioner
O'Donnell, to grant approval of the replacement 6' wall.
12. CASE NO.:
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS• ASTRID JASTREMSKI & GORDON
SPIELBERG, AVIR Audio/Video, 73-395 Hwy. 111, Palm Desert, CA
92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of
landscaping for facade improvement program
LOCATION: 73-385 Hwy. 111
ZONE:
Applicant submitted drawings for 3-foot planter landscaping in front of
their retail building. Landscaping consists of desert plants and boulders
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Commissioner Hanson commented that the roll-down shutters look like
they belong on an industrial building and present an unfriendly face to
Hwy. 111. The applicant responded that the landscape should soften that
look. Commissioner Hanson suggested that either awnings be installed to
screen the shutter boxes or make the landscaping more substantial. The
landscaping as planned may not be significant enough to do that.
Mr. Drell stated that this applicant may be able to apply for facade
assistance from the City. In order to so, the applicant needs both this
Commission's and the Planning Commission's approval on their facade
improvement proposal. If the proposed solution for the window problem is
approved by the Commission and endorsed by the City, the City pays for
half of it. In the absence of the facade program, the landscaping is not a
significant improvement for the City's participation.
The specific purpose of City participation is to achieve substantial
improvement to building facades. The facade improvement objective is to
improve the aesthetics of the building. A solution needs to be looked at.
Applicant requested more definitive suggestions. The exterior shutters
are fine. It is just the application in which they were installed, in particular,
the box at the top. There needs to be an architectural solution to screen
the boxes. That could become part of the facade improvement request.
Commissioner Hanson suggested that she meet with applicant.
Landscaping is it in keeping with the high-tech desert look they are trying
to achieve. They are limited by the size of the planter. Commissioner
Connor stated that the Commission needed to know more about the plant
varieties and need to know scale.
Action:
Commissioner Gregory moved, seconded by Commissioner Lingle,
to continue this case to allow applicant time to meet with
Commissioner Hanson about screening the shutter boxes which
may further the quest for City endorsement and assistance with the
facade improvement. Applicant will provide specific plant varieties
to be put in the planter as well as their scale. Motion carried 7-0.
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13. CASE NO.:
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): GILBERT RODRIGUEZ, HOME-TECH
BUILDERS, 555 S. Sunrise Way, Palm Springs, CA 92264
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of
architecture for single family residence
LOCATION: 43-680 Buena Circle
ZONE: R-1
The proposed residence is 6" over the 15' height limit, therefore, it is
required to come before the Commission. It is adjacent to other homes of
similar size.
Action:
Commissioner Connor moved, seconded by Commissioner
O'Donnell, to grant approval of the architecture for the single family
residence. Motion carried 7-0.
14. CASE NO.: C 00-5
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): FRONTIER BANK, c/o Jim Montgomery,
1245 Deer Valley Drive, Park City, UT 84060
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of wall detail
on porte couchre
LOCATION: 74-175 El Paseo (east side of El Paseo south of Highway
111)
ZONE: C-1
Mr. Smith presented plans to the Commission. The remodel of the
backside of the Frontier Bank building is underway. Commission had left
open the issue of how to screen off the porte couchre as viewed from
Jillian's. Applicant submitted a wall accented with indentations to serve as
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a screen. Instead of selecting a wood grill trellis, applicant stated he
wanted the landscaping at the wall to solve the problem
Action:
Commissioner Hanson moved, seconded by Commissioner Vuksic,
moved to approve the plans as presented. Motion carried 7-0.
15. CASE NO.: TT 29893
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS JOHN BRETT, Hovley Estates North
LLC, 77 Sedona Court, Palm Desert, CA 92211
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary landscape
plans for perimeter of project
LOCATION: North side of Hovley Lane West, east of Monterey Avenue
ZONE: PR-5
Commission was shown drawing of preliminary perimeter
landscape plan. Applicant and the City's Landscape Manager have
reviewed the plan and the Landscape Manager has made some
changes.
Action:
Commissioner Connor moved, seconded by Commissioner
O'Donnell, to grant approval of the preliminary perimeter
landscape plan subject to comments of the City Landscape
Manager.
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16. CASE NO.:
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESSY McFADDEN/McINTOSH, ARCHITECTS,
72-925 Fred Waring Drive, #204, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of final working
drawings
LOCATION: 44-672 Monterey
ZONE: O.P
Mr. Alvarez presented the final working drawings to the Commission. He
pointed out that the one window had been replaced by two windows on
the front elevation and on the east (rear) elevation, the corner window
was centered and the other moved to the right. There will be a row of
carports at the rear. Colors and materials on the building remain the
same. Commissioner Hanson expressed concern that water lines might
develop from the sprinklers. Staff provided the landscaping plan which
the City Landscape Manager has reviewed and commented on.
Commissioner Vuksic stated that the recessed windows should be flush.
Commissioner O'Donnell stated that some current members of the
Commission were not involved in the initial approval of this building and
the project should have been cycled back to the Commission upon new
ownership and changes from the prelimiary approval. Therefore, it is
difficult to comment on the changes. The idea that the windows were
recessed by 2 feet on the south side and are now flush-mounted probably
would have been something the Commission would have talked about in
the preliminary stage. However, the building's final working drawings are
acceptable.
Action:
Commissioner Hanson moved, seconded by Commissioner Vuksic,
to approve the final working drawings and landscape plan subject
to City's Landscape Manager's comments. Motion carried 7-0.
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B. PRELIMINARY PLANS
1. CASE NO.: MISC 00-27
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): THOMAS JAKWAY, 382 El
Portal, Palm Springs, CA 92264
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of
single family home within the Canyons at Bighorn
LOCATION: 602 Rocky Creek Road
ZONE: Hillside Planned Residential
This case was brought before the Commission on the basis that
there are 28 lots in the Canyons that need this Commission's
approval being that they are a little higher in elevation. Commission
stated that the residence is far enough away and would not be
visible from Hwy. 74 and suggested that staff take the distance
into consideration before automatically scheduling each home for
ARC review.
Action:
Commissioner Connor moved, seconded by Commissioner
Vuksic, to approve the preliminary plan as presented.
Motion carried 7-0.
2_ CASE NO.: SA 99-76
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): A&S ENGINEERING for CIRCLE
K, 207 W. Alameda Avenue #203, Burbank, CA 91502
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Remodel of
existing fascia, installation of one building sign and reface one
monument sign
LOCATION: 45-200 Portola Avenue
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Mr. Drell stated that the Commission's denial was appealed to the
City Council. The City Council looked at it, didn't like the previous
proposal, and suggested that something could be worked out
keeping in mind that the wing awning was a good element. A red
stripe detail has been added below the wing. The material
screening the roof equipment in the back is a texture-coated metal.
The front elevation is also textured-coated metal. The main
building color is "egret white".
The existing trash enclosures have concrete sides with chain-link
gates. Commission stated its desire for more decorative gates.
Commissioner Vuksic disagrees with the red striping and felt the
original tan striping would be better. Egret white may turn too white
and glare in the sun. He would like to see a darker shade of white.
The wall-mounted sign will illuminate. Commissioner Vuksic stated
that having the entire signage box light up would be unacceptable.
Commissioner Hanson asked if they could light up just the "Circle"
and the X" and leave the background opaque. Applicant stated
that could be done.
The Portola monument sign is not proposed to be replaced, simply
re-faced. The sign is a 5' can on a base, making it about 7'5" tall.
Commission asked if the sign could be down-sized at least to 6' to
conform with sign requirements. Staff responded that as it is, the
sign's bottom border is barely at the top of the landscaping. Staff
stated that theoretically, the applicant did not have to do anything.
Doug Massaro, A&S Engineering, was asked if he had any
comments or anything to Mr. Massaro responded that he did not.
The Commission agreed that there is definite progress on the
projects and it appreciates the efforts by the company to make
these substantial improvements.
Commissioner Gregory recapped the discussion: 1) The building
color should be a darker shade of white or light tan, 2) The awning
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stripes should be tan instead of red, 3) That the wall-mounted sign,
the "Circle" and the "K" be illuminated and the background be
opaque, and 4) Replace chain-link gates on trash enclosure(s) with
new decorative gates per staff approval.
Action:
Commissioner Gregory moved, seconded by Commissioner
O'Donnell, to grant approval of the plans subject to 1) Toning
down the building color to a darker shade of white or light tan, 2)
The awning strips will be tan instead of red, 3) That the wall-
mounted sign, the "Circle" and the X" be illuminated and the
background be opaque, and 4) Replace chain-link gates on trash
enclosure(s) with new decorative gates per staff approval. Motion
carried 7-0.
3_ CASE NO.: SA 99-78
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS A&S ENGINEERING for CIRCLE K,
207 W. Alameda Avenue #203, Burbank, CA 91502
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Remodel of existing
fascia, one building sign and two monument signs
LOCATION: 44-775 San Pablo Avenue
ZONE: C-1
Mr. Drell stated the Commission's denial was appealed to the City
Council. The City Council looked at it, didn't like the previous proposal,
and suggested that something could be worked out keeping in mind that
the wing awning was a good element. A red stripe detail has been
added below the wing. The material screening the roof equipment in the
back is a texture-coated metal. The front elevation is also textured-coated
metal. The main building color is "egret white".
The existing trash enclosures have concrete sides with chain-link gates.
Commission stated its desire for more decorative gates.
Commissioner Vuksic disagrees with the red striping and felt that the
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original tan striping would be better. Egret white may turn too white and
glare in the sun. He would like to see a darker shade of white.
The wall-mounted sign will illuminate. Commissioner Vuksic stated that
having the entire signage box light up would be unacceptable.
Commissioner Hanson asked if they could light up just the "Circle" and the
"K" and leave the background opaque. Applicant stated that could be
done.
The monument sign on San Pablo, at the south end of the property, will
be removed. The one at the corner will be removed and a new 6'
monument sign installed in the planter.
A landscape plan has been submitted and reviewed by the City's
Landscape Manager. Commission would like to review revised
preliminary landscape plan with emphasize on a desert palette.
Doug Massaro, A&S Engineering, was asked if he had any comments or
anything to Mr. Massaro responded that he did not.
The Commission agreed that there is definite progress on the project and
it appreciates the efforts by the company to make these substantial
improvements.
Commissioner Gregory recapped the discussion: 1) The building color to
a darker shade of white or light tan, 2) The awning stripes should be tan
instead of red, 3) That the wall-mounted sign, the "Circle" and the X" be
illuminated and the background be opaque, and 4) That the monument
sign be no more than 6' high, 5) The landscaping should go with a more
desert-type palette per comments noted on the landscape drawings by the
City's Landscape Manager and resubmitted to the Commission for
preliminary review, and 6) Replace chain-link gates on trash enclosure(s)
with new decorative gates per staff approval.
Action:
Commissioner Gregory moved, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, to
grant approval of the plans subject to 1) Toning down the building color to
a darker shade of white or light tan, 2) The awning strips will be tan
instead of red, 3) That the wall-mounted sign, the "Circle" and the X" be
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illuminated and the background be opaque, and 4) That the monument
sign be no more than 6' high, 5) The landscaping should go with a more
desert-type palette per comments noted on the landscape drawings by the
City's Landscape Manager and resubmitted to the Commission for
preliminary review, and 6) Replace chain-link gates on trash enclosure(s)
with new decorative gates per staff approval. Motion carried 7-0.
4. CASE NO.: PP 00-11
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESSk CHARLES K. SWEET, 43-708 Virginia
Avenue, Palm Desert, CA 92211
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Consideration of revised
building elevations pursuant to Planning Commission action of October
17, 2000.
LOCATION: 72-650 Fred Waring Drive
ZONE: PR-7 to O.P. Request
Staff and applicant presented plans of the old (approved) version and the
new revision. The Planning Commission did not like the previously
approved 30' high building. The elevation has been reduced to 25' with 7'
tower from the previous design which had a 12' tower on a 30' building.
Mr. Drell asked if there were other sollutions that could be incorporated
relative to the roof design. Applicant stated that bringing it down to 25' is
the best they can do and still maintain the building's lines.
To address the lack of adequate parking, the applicant took 6,000 sq.ft.
off the rear of the office building to put in a row of 19 parking spaces.
Prior to this change, applicant had a ratio of 50% of his required parking
spaces on-site and 50% on the adjacent church's lot. That ratio now
stands at 65% on site, 35% on the adjacent lot. They propose to upgrade
the church's parking lot to bring it up to current standards. Applicant
stated they were about 2,000 sqft under where they would like to be.
Shaded carport structures will be installed onthe church parking lot.
The larger main building sits back 158 feet from the curb and two
foreground buildings help to soften the impact of the mass of the larger
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illuminated and the background be opaque, and 4) That the monument
sign be no more than 6' high, 5) The landscaping should go with a more
desert-type palette per comments noted on the landscape drawings by the
City's Landscape Manager and resubmitted to the Commission for
preliminary review, and 6) Replace chain-link gates on trash enclosure(s)
with new decorative gates per staff approval. Motion carried 7-0.
4. CASE NO.: PP 00-11
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): CHARLES K. SWEET, 43-708 Virginia
Avenue, Palm Desert, CA 92211
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Consideration of revised
building elevations pursuant to Planning Commission action of October
17, 2000.
LOCATION: 72-650 Fred Waring Drive
ZONE: PR-7 to O.P. Request
Staff and applicant presented plans of the old (approved) version and the
new revision. The Planning Commission did not like the previously
approved 30' high building. The elevation has been reduced to 25' with 7'
tower from the previous design which had a 12' tower on a 30' building.
Mr. Drell asked if there were other sollutions that could be incorporated
relative to the roof design. Applicant stated that bringing it down to 25' is
the best they can do and still maintain the building's lines.
To address the lack of adequate parking, the applicant took 6,000 sq.ft.
off the rear of the office building to put in a row of 19 parking spaces.
Prior to this change, applicant had a ratio of 50% of his required parking
spaces on-site and 50% on the adjacent church's lot. That ratio now
stands at 65% on site, 35% on the adjacent lot. They propose to upgrade
the church's parking lot to bring it up to current standards. Applicant
stated they were about 2,000 sqft under where they would like to be.
Shaded carport structures will be installed onthe church parking lot.
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The larger main building sits back 158 feet from the curb and two
foreground buildings help to soften the impact of the mass of the larger
buildling in the background.
Commissioner Lingle stated that he believes the previous (taller) buildling
was a superior product. The Planning Commission had disagreed with
this Commission's opinion. He suggested appealing the issue directly to
the City Council and letting them make the decision with the
Commission's recommendation on the higher version. Commissioner
Gregory suggested that at least one member of this Commission attend
the City Council meeting in support of the higher version.
Action:
Commissioner Lingle moved, seconded by Commissioner
O'Donnell, to re-affirm the Commission's previous action for the
following reasons : 1) The airiness of the arcade as approved
appears to give extra space between the top of the arch and
bottom of the second floor. This helps with proportions. 2) The
proportion of the tower element is much more in keeping with the
style of architecture than on the shorter version. 3) The taller
building works in this location because it sits back 158 feet from the
curb and two foreground buildings help to soften the impact of the
mass of the larger building. 4) Most of the building is below the
height limit; only the apex of some of the roof sections are over the
height limit. ) Tthe adjacent church has taller elements and is
located right on the street. Motion carried 7-0.
V. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 2:50 p.m.
STEVE SMITH
PLANNING MANAGER
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