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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004-01-13 r . � � ����'� CITY OF PALM DESERT �� ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION • _• MINUTES JANUARY 13, 2004 **************************************************************************************************** I. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 12:40 p.m. II. ROLL CALL Current Meeting Year to Date Commissioners Present Absent Present Absent Ronald Gregory, Chairman X 1 Kristi Hanson X 1 Chris Van Vliet X 1 John Vuksic X 1 Ray Lopez X 1 Karen Oppenheim X 1 Also Present: Phil Drell, Director, Community Development Francisco Urbina, Associate Planner Tony Bagato, Planning Technician Donna Quaiver, Senior Office Assistant Diane Hollinger, Landscape Specialist III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: December 9, 2003 Commissioner Vuksic moved, seconded by Commissioner Lopez to approve the minutes of December 9, 2003. The motion carried 6-0. IV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS A. None. 1 � � ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JAN UARY 13, 2004 MINUTES A. Final Drawinqs 1. CASE NO.: SA 03-181 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): IMPERIAL SIGN CO., INC., 46-120 Calhoun Street, Indio, CA 92201 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Request approval of business signage. LOCATION: 73-505 EI Paseo, Pacifica Seafood ZONE: C-1 Action: Commissioner Lopez moved, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet for approval by minute motion. Motion carried 6-0. 2. CASE NO.: PP 02-14 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): VALLI ARCHITECTURAL GROUP, RICK WALLACE, 81 Columbia, Suite 200, Aliso Viejo, CA 92656 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of a 83,270 square foot storage facility with rental office consisting of two single-story buildings and a two-story building over a basement. LOCATION: Painter's Path, southeast corner of Fred Waring. ZONE: PC-3 Action: Commissioner Lopez moved, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet for approval of landscape and architecture (signage not included). Motion carried 6-0. 3. CASE NO.: MISC 03-11 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): GABRIEL LUJAN & ASSOCIATES, 74-818 Velie Way, Palm Desert, CA 92260 G:Planning\Donna Quaiver\wpdocs�AgminWR040113.MIN 2 � � ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JANUARY 13, 2004 MINUTES NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of a four-unit apartment complex. LOCATION: 73-765 Shadow Mountain Drive ZONE: R-3 Action: Commissioner Lopez moved, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet for approval by minute motion of architecture only, subject to all the windows being constructed per the recessed window detail in the plans. Motion carried 6-0. 4. CASE NO.: SA 04-01 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ELEONORE AUSTERER, 73-660 EI Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Request approval of awning with business signage on awning. LOCATION: 73-660 EI Paseo, ELEONORE AUSTERER GALLERY ZONE: C-1 Commissioner Hanson commented that she wanted to know how the awning would be supported. Mr. Urbina stated that the awning has an aluminum frame and the canvas will be beige in color. Ms. Eleonore Austerer, applicant, stated that the awning will be attached under the overhang. Commissioner Hanson stated that it's different than the way that it was drawn. Ms. Austerer stated that there are recessed lights underneath the overhang. Commissioner Hanson commented that the awning will cover up about 18" of the glass storefront. Commissioner Van Vliet asked the height of the glass on the storefront. Ms. Austerer didn't know what the height of the glass is. Commissioner Hanson drew a sketch of what the commission expects to see and a copy was given to the applicant. Commissioner Vuksic commented that the letters on the awning are 5" tall and may be too small. It was suggested that she make the letters 8" in height (maximum) leaving a gap at either end, which can be approved by staff. G:Planning\Donna Quaiver\wpdocs�Agmin�,4R040113.MIN 3 . � � ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JANUARY 13, 2004 MINUTES Action: Commissioner Hanson moved, seconded by Commissioner Oppenheim for approval subject to revised drawing submitted to the applicant and to consider using 8" letters leaving a gap at either end, which can be approved by staff. Motion carried 6-0. B. Preliminary Plans 1. CASE NO.: TT 31969 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SOUTHERN SUN CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, 73-733 Fred Waring Drive, Suite 100, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Request preliminary approval of architecture and landscaping for 64 single-family homes. LOCATION: Northeastern corner of Fairhaven Drive and Parkview Drive; Paseo Village ZONE: PR-7 Mr. Drell stated that the proposed project is between Fairhaven Drive and One Quail Place. This project is zoned at seven units per acre. In 1979, a two-story condo project was approved on this site. More recently, a three-story senior assisted living center was approved here. The current project is residential with seven units per acre. The only difference between this and condos is that these are detached single- family homes. This project is at the very preliminary stage because full elevations have not been submitted. Commissioner Van Vliet asked what the lot sizes are. Mr. Drell stated that they're about 4,500 square feet. Mr. Paul Patirupananda, project manager, was present and commented that they have approximately 9.7 acres and they're proposing 64 units. They're trying to create smaller lots with two-story homes. There will be a landscaped entry into the project. The homes will range in size from 1,860 - 2,268 square feet and the area will be gated. They've worked very diligently to try to bring the architecture forward on the street scene. On Plan 1, they've pulled the porch forward to bring the architecture out. On Plan 2, they tried to minimize the garage impact by adding a porte cochere with the entry door in a porch area. All the homes have two-car garages and are two stories with tile roofs. Plan 3 has one element that's pulled out G:Planning\Donna Quaiver\wpdocs�AgminWR040113.MIN 4 . � � ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JANUARY 13, 2004 MINUTES to break up the street scene. The entry door is under a covered porch. The floor plans have some variety. Plan 1 has two master bedrooms and Plan 3 has three bedrooms with an office area. Plan 2 has the option for a third bedroom and the second floor has a small loft. They're trying to appeal to a larger market profile, possibly for students or faculty from the nearby college or even small families. Commissioner Vuksic asked what the fascia is made out of. Mr. Joe Digrado, senior associate for Danielian Associates, commented that the fascia is wood with exposed rafter tails. Commissioner Vuksic asked if there's anything else involved in the S-tiles. He asked about what the ends look like and would there be any boost in the tile. Mr. Digrado stated that they weren't planning to do the boost but they could possibly do it on the Spanish-style home. The tile will be made of concrete, not clay. The roof colors will vary as well as the texture. Commissioner Van Vliet asked about the setback requirements. Mr. Drell stated that the setback requirements will be as approved. They'll have 5' side yards making a 10' building separation. This is a seven unit per acre project. Small lot single famity by nature typically has a smaller front yard so that there's a decent sized rear yard. Commissioner Van Vliet commented that it looks like they're trying to put big buildings on small lots and they're very tall at 25' in height. They're really less than 10' apart with the overhangs being 2' combined. The Fire Marshall will be consulted. The alternative on this site is attached condominiums. Commissioner Van Vliet stated that the footprint for the homes could be smaller. Mr. Digrado stated that they've tried to address the softness of the front elevations so that they're not box-on-box. Commissioner Hanson commented that she's not offended by the street elevation. Mr. David Morehead, partner, stated that one of the things to keep in mind is that this project is a buffer between the City's low- income housing and the apartment buildings. To make it pencil out, they've played with many variations of size and this is the one that works. The homes will start at just under $400,000. Commissioner Vuksic asked about the awnings on Plan 1 on the second floor. Mr. Digrado stated that they are a louvered shutter that comes out and will be made of either metal or wood to give it a Tuscan look. Commissioner Van Vliet asked if he could carry the same theme around the back and sides of all the homes. They've only done it on the front at this point. Mr. Drell stated that some of the houses back up to Park View and are very visible from that street and also from G:Planning\Donna Quaiver\wpdocsWgmiMAR040113.MIN 5 . � � � ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JANUARY 13, 2004 MINUTES Fairhaven. Mr. Digrado stated that they can create enhanced elevations on the homes that are in public view. Commissioner Van Vliet stated that the elevations on all four sides should look as nice as the front. Mr. Drell stated that there are a lot of homes that will be seen on all four sides because of all the corners on the site plan. Commissioner Vuksic commented that they've done a nice job of articulating the front elevations and the rear elevations as well. They didn't render them, but he can see that they've got opportunities for shadow like they have in the front. He stated that he's a little concerned about the house with the roof with gable ends. He was imagining it next to another one with gable ends because they are so close together. Mr. Digrado commented that the simple gables are typical of the Tuscan style but he could possibly hip the roofs. Mr. Drell commented that he would hate for every one to be hipped. Commissioner Vuksic concurred and stated that all he's asking for is that when they're laying them out on the site plan, try not to put two of the gable roofs next to each other. He heard Mr. Digrado say that where houses are visible from public view on the sides or rear, they'll go to an extra effort on those houses to enhance these elevations. Mr. Digrado agreed to enhance the elevations of the homes that are in view of the public street. Mr. Drell commented that if windows on the side elevations look out at another residence, those elevations should be nice. Commissioner Vuksic asked about the location of the condensing units for the homes. Mr. Digrado stated that most of the time they put them in the side yards, but in some cities and especially on this project it becomes a real problem. Mr. Drell stated that here they won't be able to put them in the side yards. The Fire Marshal does require a 5' side yard. Mr. Digrado stated that the condensing units would be put in the rear yards. Commissioner Vuksic asked about the enclosure around the spark arrester. Mr. Digrado stated that they've shown a standard spark arrester. Commissioner Vuksic stated that they should consider dressing it up. It doesn't have to be anything elaborate but there should be some sort of decorative shroud. Mr. Digrado indicated that he can make that change. Commissioner Oppenheim commented that the elevations look great and that there is a market section that doesn't ever seem to be addressed. G:Planning\Donna Quaiver\wpdocsWgminWR040113.MIN 6 � � � ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JANUARY 13, 2004 MINUTES Commissioner Lopez suggested that there could be a stacking problem at both gate entries. Mr. Drell commented that typically there should be room for three cars in front of the gate without going out onto the street. Mr. Patirupananda commented that they have provided 60' at the gates. Commissioner Lopez stated that they have to have 60' from the call box, not the gate. He asked the applicant if the landscape maintenance will be the responsibility of each homeowner or is there a community landscape agreement. If each homeowner has their own gardener, there could be a lot of trucks and trailers stacking outside the gates. Mr. Drell stated that the concern is not necessarily the residents, but the people who are trying to get access into the community. Commissioner Lopez stated that there will be a stacking problem and suggested redesigning the entries. Commissioner Vuksic offered a word of caution on the color boards. The white that's shown, which is appropriate for the style of architecture, is pretty white. White tends to be very white and bright here in the desert. He suggested testing the color on something and see if they want to make it a little darker. Commissioner Hanson suggested using a beige or light cream, which will look white in the desert sun. Commissioner Vuksic commented that the project looks nice. Commissioner Vuksic stated that the commission will need all four elevations, roof plans, site plan, plotting on the lots, etc... for preliminary approval. Commissioner Lopez suggested that the applicant think about locations for monument signs for the project. Action: Commissioner Vuksic moved, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet for conceptual approval of architecture with the understanding that the side and rear facades in public view will be enhanced. Motion carried 5-0-1-0 with Commissioner Gregory abstaining. 2. CASE NO.: PP 03-22 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS� PATEL ARCHITECTURE, 71-711 San Jacinto Drive, Ranch Mirage, CA 92270 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of architecture for a 14,102 square foot office building. Oracle Plaza LOCATION: Fred Waring Drive, east of San Pablo G:Planning\Donna Quaiver\wpdocsWgmin�AR040113.MIN � � � ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION JANUARY 13, 2004 MINUTES ZONE: OP Action: Commissioner Lopez moved, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet to continue the request to allow the applicant to revise plans to comply with the City's setback and parking requirements. Motion carried 6-0. VI. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 1:15 p.m. TONY BAGATO, ASSISTANT PLANNER for STEVE SMITH, PLANNING MANAGER G:Planning\Donna Quaiver\wpdocs�Agmin�AR040113.MIN g