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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2005-09-27 *Age *"I CITY OF PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION • MINUTES SEPTEMBER 27, 2005 **************************************************************************************************** I. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m. II. ROLL CALL Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ronald Gregory, Chairman X 14 4 Kristi Hanson X 14 4 Chris Van Vliet X* 12 6*excused John Vuksic X 18 Ray Lopez X 15 3 Karen Oppenheim X 18 Karel Lambell X 17 1 Also Present: Phil Drell, Director, Community Development Steve Smith, Planning Manager Francisco Urbina, Associate Planner Tony Bagato, Assistant Planner Ryan Stendell, Assistant Planner Donna Quaiver, Senior Office Assistant Diane Hollinger, Landscape Specialist III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 13, 2005 Commissioner Oppenheim moved, seconded by Commissioner Lambell to approve the minutes of September 13, 2005. The motion carried 4-0-1-2 with Commissioner Lopez abstaining and Commissioners Van Vliet and Gregory absent. IV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS A. None. 1 ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 27, 2005 MINUTES A. Final Drawings 1. CASE NO.: TT 30438 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DESTINATION DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, 74-001 Reserve Drive, Indian Wells, CA 92210 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Request final approval of Arroya units 1 & 2 at Stone Eagle. LOCATION: 48-099 Highway 74 ZONE: HPR Action: Commissioner Oppenheim moved, seconded by Commissioner Hanson for approval by minute motion, subject to approval by the Landscape Manager. Motion carried 5-0-0-2 with Commissioners Van Vliet and Gregory absent. 2. CASE NO.: PP 04-30 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): EDWARD OLMEDO, 18111 Von Karman, Suite 600, Irvine, CA 92612 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of plans for a new 52,118 square foot concrete tilt-up building. Bedrosian Tile LOCATION: 73-550 Dinah Shore ZONE: SI Action: Commissioner Oppenheim moved, seconded by Commissioner Hanson for approval by minute motion, subject to having the rear roof parapet returns extending a minimum of 10' back. Motion carried 5-0-0-2 with Commissioners Van Vliet and Gregory absent. G:Planning\Donna Quaiver\wpdocs\Agmin\AR050927.MIN 2 **4*f ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 27, 2005 AGENDA 3. CASE NO.: PP 04-14 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): WILLIAM SHARON, SMITH CONSULTING ARCHITECTS, 12220 El Camino Real, Suite 200, San Diego, CA 92130 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of a 19,565 square foot showroom/warehouse and associated vehicle storage yard. D'Mundo Tile LOCATION: NE corner of Cook Street and Gerald Ford ZONE: PCD Mr. Smith stated that the preliminary approval included a condition that stated that the windows had to be recessed. William Sharon, architect, was present and stated that the panels will be about 8" so he could push the window back to the rear of the tilt-up panel. There will be stone detail around the building which will add further relief. Action: Commissioner Vuksic moved, seconded by Commissioner Oppenheim for approval, subject to setting the windows back to the rear of the tilt-up panel. Motion carried 5-0-0-2 with Commissioners Van Vliet and Gregory absent. 4. CASE NO.: MISC 05-03 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ALLEN BIXEN, 41-865 Boardwalk, Suite 106, Palm Desert, CA 92211 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Request final approval of elevations for a facade enhancement of Matsuri Restaurant, Pete Carlson's Golf& Tennis, and Chinese Antiques. LOCATION: 73-741 Highway 111 ZONE: C-1 Mr. Smith stated that this item was continued from the September 13, 2005 ARC meeting. Commissioner Vuksic reviewed the plans in depth and commented that he took a piece of the project and looked at it in G:Planning\Donna Quaiver\wpdocs\Agmin\AR050927.MIN 3 *AW ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 27, 2005 MINUTES terms of the clarity of the working drawings, the follow-through of the design and the quality of the details. Page A-8 was marked up by Commissioner Vuksic, which showed the Highway 111 elevation. He noted that there were items that were not clear. Details that should be there because they're important in terms of quality, are not there. This is a similar scenario as what happened at the Hand Car Wash on Washington. Their preliminary design drawings were interesting and got approval, and then a poor set of hand-drawn working drawings were submitted and this created a building with shoddy construction because of unclear drawings. It became a huge problem. We need to make sure that this doesn't happen in this case. There was a benefit of the doubt given in the design approval of this project, and that should not be given on the working drawings. Charlie Martin, architect, was present and stated that they could continue this item and he would take it back and address the commission's concerns. Action: Commissioner Vuksic moved, seconded by Commissioner Lambell to continue the request to allow the architect to return with revised plan details. Motion carried 5-0-0-2 with Commissioners Van Vliet and Gregory absent. 5. CASE NO.: MISC 05-35 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): LARRY HAZELTON, 434 Eton Lane, Big Bear City, CA NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Request approval of roof height of 18' on a single-family residence. LOCATION: 77-575 Delaware Place ZONE: RE Action: Commissioner Oppenheim moved, seconded by Commissioner Lambell for approval by minute motion, subject to roof height not exceeding 18' from pad. Motion carried 5-0-0-2 with Commissioners Van Vliet and Gregory absent. G:PIanning\Donna Qua iver\wpdocs\Agmin\AR050927.MIN 4 %W *400, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 27, 2005 MINUTES 6. CASE NO.: SA 05-90 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): LYNN FOSTER, 1000 Lakes Drive, #405, West Covina, CA 91790 WAL*MART STORES, INC., 2001 S.E. 10" Street, Bentonville, AR 72712 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Request approval of revised gas station canopy design, island building and signage for Sam's Club /Wal*Mart. LOCATION: 34-220 Monterey Avenue, Gateway Center ZONE: P.C. Mr. Bagato stated that the applicant is not present, but was notified of the meeting. Mr. Drell stated that his suggestion was to create a smooth hand- troweled stucco, radiused-edged canopy with halo-lit letters. Keep it simple. Commissioner Hanson commented that they don't even need signage on the canopy. Costco does not have signage on their canopy. Everybody will know where it is. The cornice and lights look bad. Mr. Drell agreed and stated that if they actually do want lettering, then they should be halo-lit. Commissioner Hanson stated that the gas station should look like the architecture on the main Wal*Mart building. It will look utilitarian in some ways, but they can do a better job of making it look like it's supposed to. Commissioner Vuksic asked if they were using a clay tile roof. Mr. Bagato stated that the roof the is called out on the plans as barrel concrete tile. Commissioner Vuksic asked if that's what they're using on their other buildings. Some concrete roof tiles look really bad. Commissioner Hanson stated that as long as they're barreled and not S-tile. Commissioner Vuksic commented that some of them can look good, but I'm concerned about the concrete roof tile. Action: Commissioner Hanson moved, seconded by Commissioner Oppenheim to continue the request with the following suggestions: (1) use halo-lit lighting, if signage is going to be used, (2) create a low- profile, hand-troweled stucco finish with radiused corners for the G:Planning\Donna Quaiver\wpdocs\Agmin\AR050927.MIN 5 *W'` `r✓ ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 27, 2005 MINUTES canopy, and (3) on island building, use similar architectural features as on the main Wal*Mart building. Motion carried 5-0-0-2 with Commissioners Van Vliet and Gregory absent. 7. CASE NO.: MISC 05-36 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): VISTA MIRAGE HOMES, 31520 Avenue El Pueblo, Cathedral City, CA 92234 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Request approval of 18' roof height on a single-family residence. LOCATION: 73-321 Catalina Way ZONE: R-1 Action: Commissioner Oppenheim moved, seconded by Commissioner Hanson for approval by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0-0-2 with Commissioners Van Vliet and Gregory absent. B. Preliminary Plans 1. CASE NO.: PP 05-16 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PACIFIC POINTE PARTNERS, 3636 Birch Street, Suite 260, Newport Beach, CA 92660 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Request preliminary approval of revised elevations for (7) new office buildings. LOCATION: 73-510 Dinah Shore ZONE: SI Action: Commissioner Oppenheim moved, seconded by Commissioner Hanson for approval of the revised plans by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0-0-2 with Commissioners Van Vliet and Gregory absent. GRanning\Donna Quaiver\wpdocs\Agmin\AR050927.MIN 6 *age ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 27, 2005 MINUTES 2. CASE NO.: PP 05-19 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): BILL MACMASTER, 21542 Surveyor Circle, Huntington Beach, CA 92646 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Request preliminary approval of elevations for (2) concrete tilt-up industrial buildings. LOCATION: Spyder Circle; south of Dinah Shore (Gateway Industrial Park) ZONE: SI Mr. Urbina commented that these are two adjacent industrial lots on Spyder Circle. There will be two separate buildings that will look like one building. They each have their own separate entrance and their own parking lot. It's a concrete tilt-up building and is within the 30' height limit for the service industrial zone. Color elevations were shown to the commission. The windows are recessed. Commissioner Lopez stated that if you removed the trees from the west elevation, it would look like more of the same thing. Commissioner Hanson stated that there's only a 5' setback on this elevation so there isn't enough room for trees. Mr. Urbina stated that the west side faces a multiple family residential site, but we don't have any plans for it yet. Commissioner Vuksic stated that the north elevation has a flat wall with some roll-up doors in it. There's a man door and two roll-up doors. Randall Jepson, architect, was present and stated that they have two individual industrial buildings proposed with the intent that they would have two points of entry into each building. The overhead doors are setback significantly from the street and there will be a significant amount of landscaping along the property line. We're certainly willing to work with the commission on the colors and textures of the materials. It's the intent with the proximity to the Home Depot Center and some of the home improvement activities going on across Monterey, that their marketing would be directed toward boutique-type retailers such as custom window businesses or tile businesses. This is an industrial building, but we see an opportunity to add a little more flash than we normally would for an entry. GRanning\Donna Quaiver\wpdocs\Agmin\AR050927.MIN 7 ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 27, 2005 MINUTES Commissioner Vuksic asked about what was happening with the parapets on the sides. Mr. Jepson stated that it would return a couple of feet beyond the parapet so that it would look like an element. My primary concern is to screen the mechanical equipment in that area. Commissioner Hanson commented that there's only a 1'6" pop-out, as opposed to two feet. Mr. Jepson stated that it's 1'6" plus 1'6" to the glass so there's a three foot offset to the glass and 1'6" on the surface. Commissioner Vuksic asked if they were relying on the taller elements to screen their equipment. Mr. Jepson stated that they're anticipating their air conditioning units to be 4'6" in height on top of a curb and they have adequate parapet to screen the equipment. Commissioner Vuksic asked if the equipment would be visible anywhere and asked if it was screened all the way around. Mr. Jepson commented that they anticipated having all the air conditioning equipment being located in the front quadrant on the west side. They'll be totally contained within the parapets. The last thing that we want to do is look at any equipment on the roof. Commissioner Vuksic asked about the type of material on the cantilevered balconies. Mr. Jepson stated that this is a steel canopy element that projects out and not a balcony. Commissioner Vuksic asked about the header details. Mr. Jepson stated that if you look at a section it shows that the header is recessed 4"-6" to provide a shadow line and add an accent color. Commissioner Vuksic asked about the exterior lighting. Mr. Jepson stated that they're going to use decorative architectural lighting sconces made of aluminum to match the framing. Commissioner Vuksic asked that the light fixtures be submitted for review. He asked if they were going to use wall packs. Mr. Jepson stated that it would depend on the photometrics. It's our preference not to use wall packs. Commissioner Hanson asked about how the west elevation should be treated because it's up against a residential area and there's only a five foot setback. Mr. Smith stated that we're limited in the amount of treatment that you can apply on that side. Currently, the property is zoned service industrial, however, the general plan has it as residential which is its likely future use. Mr. Jepson stated that they anticipated having a block wall between the two properties. Commissioner Vuksic stated that you really couldn't plant trees there because it's such a small space. Mr. Jepson stated that there could be some other type of landscape material there. G:Planning\Donna Quaiver\wpdocs\Agmin\AR050927.MIN g v + y ftw *of ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 27, 2005 MINUTES Commissioner Vuksic stated that he's okay with the simplicity of the elevations, but not okay with the fact that there's no significant attempt at architectural detail on them. I look at the west elevation with the roll- up doors on a flat elevation. The doors look like they are just placed in there strictly based on a floor plan with no consideration of some sense of geometry, proportion or design details on the elevation. There are two doors that are hitting differently within their panels. There is a man door that's arbitrarily placed, at least from a proportion stand point, between the roll-up doors. It looks extremely utilitarian. Is there any way you can take those blank walls up a notch, balance them a little more architecturally and possibly add some designs in the concrete? Do something that would be easier on the eyes. Mr. Jepson commented that he could recess the doors and make them more symmetrical. Commissioner Vuksic stated that he's not asking for symmetry, but would prefer a pattern. Mr. Jepson stated that he would like to go back and make modifications to the plan. Commissioner Vuksic stated that where they show transitions in the parapet heights, we've been returning them two-thirds of the width of the element. If the parapet is 15' wide, the return would be 10'. Mr. Urbina stated that the returns should be reflected on the revised roof plan. Action: Commissioner Hanson moved, seconded by Commissioner Vuksic to continue the request to allow the architect to return with revised elevations. Motion carried 5-0-0-2 with Commissioners Van Vliet and Gregory absent. 3. CASE NO.: PP 05-21 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): HSA DESIGN GROUP, 42-575 Melanie Place, Suite S, Palm Desert, CA 92211 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Request approval for construction of a one and two-story 17,157 square foot commercial office building. LOCATION: 42-635 Melanie Place ZONE: SI Mr. Smith stated that the location of the proposed building is on the northwest corner of Melanie Place and Sheryl. Chris McFadden, architect, was present and stated that there is a 14' grade change on G:Planning\Donna Quaiver\wpdocs\Agmin\AR050927.MIN 9 NOW ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 27, 2005 MINUTES the site. The building is two-stories on one side and single-story on the other side. The materials will be split-face block in a wheat color, which is broken up with horizontal banding with a 30:30 sand finish. Some of the wall base has been thickened so the walls aren't too continuous. Commissioner Vuksic asked if the roof-mounted equipment will be below the parapet. Mr. McFadden stated that the equipment will be in a 4'/2' hole with the roof access on the inside of the building. Perforated metal will be used as in-fill on the handrail. Mr. Urbina stated that there will also be metal carports over 43 of the 69 spaces. Action: Commissioner Hanson moved, seconded by Commissioner Vuksic for preliminary approval, subject to comments by the Landscape Manager. Motion carried 5-0-0-2 with Commissioners Van Vliet and Gregory absent. VI. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 1:12 p.m. STEVE SMITH PLANNING MANAGER GRanning\Donna Qua iver\wpdocs\Agmin\AR050927.MIN 10