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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007-01-23 y � � � �-�T-�-� CITY OF PALM DESERT � � ' ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 23, 2007 I. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m. II. ROLL CALL Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ronald Gregory, Chairman X 2 Kristi Hanson X 2 Chris Van Vliet X 2 John Vuksic X 2 Ray Lopez X 2 Karen Oppenheim X 2 Karel Lambell X 1 1 Also Present Tony Bagato, Acting Planning Manager Ryan Stendell, Assistant Planner Diane Hollinger, Landscape Specialist Janine Judy, Senior Office Assistant III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: January 9, 2007 Action: It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner Oppenheim, approving the January 09, 2007 meeting minutes. Motion carried 6-0-1-0, with Commissioner Lambell abstaining. IV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS V. CASES: . , � ARCHITECTURAL R�EW COMMISSION � MINUTES JANUARY 23, 2007 the garage was converted. She would like to get that approved, but would need to get the carport approved first. Code indicates an exception to this process to allow carports to be twenty feet from the curb as long as they are designed to match the home architecturally. This item was noticed to the neighbors and he asked the neighbors to step forward. Mr. Sam Flores, neighbor presented photos of the house and stated that he opposed the carport. He stated that the homeowner should concentrate on beautifying the outside of the home before constructing a carport. If the carport were approved, in time everyone would want a carport making the street look bad. He stated that he had signatures from several neighbors opposing the carport. Commissioner Gregory asked if the applicant was putting up the carport just to meet code. Mr. Bagato stated that was correct. She would like to keep the converted garage as a bedroom, but to do that she has to have two covered spaces. Commissioner Gregory stated that it still conforms to the twenty-foot minimum setback from curb face. Mr. Bagato stated that is what the ARC has been approving, but Code indicates it is twenty feet from property line which pushes it back even further. She didn't have enough room to do it from the property line that is why she is coming to ARC to ask for twenty feet from curb. Commission discussed the carport architecture, style and landscaping. Commissioner Gregory stated that the landscaping would have to be done to conform to City requirements. Mr. Flores was concerned that the homeowner would not keep up the maintenance of the property. Mr. Bagato stated as a side note that this matter was here because Code Enforcement was dealing with the homeowner to fix up the property. Commissioner Hanson stated that the architecture of this home was very imposing with the pitch of the roof. If you actually had a trellis on the outside of that with bougainvillea or something growing on it, it would soften the look of the house from the street. Commissioner Vuksic asked if this was the Commission's place to judge this on the terms of aesthetics only or are we also thinking about the distance from the street or would this be something the Planning Commission would take up. G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word Files�,4RC Minute5�2007�,4R070123.min.DOC Page 3 of 8 , ' � � ` ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 23, 2007 ----------------------------------------------------------------- A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO: MISC. 07-01 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): KRISTI HANSON, INC., 71-185 Painters Path, Suite A, Palm Desert, CA 92262 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Review of architecture for hillside home. LOCATION: 607 Rocky Creek ZONE: R1 Mr. Stendell indicated that this was a hillside home with architecture that would blend into the hillside with native colors. Commissioner Lambell stated that she liked the way the house settled down into the elevation change from the street. Commissioner Van Vliet stated that it was well designed with nice use of materials that would blend in with the neighborhood. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Oppenheim, seconded by Commissioner Lambell, to grant approval. Motion carried 6-0-1-0, with Commissioner Hanson abstaining. 2. CASE NO: MISC. 07-02 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SHAWNA RISNES, 73-180 Catalina, Palm Desert, CA 92262 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of a new carport 20 feet from the curb. LOCATION: 73-180 Catalina ZONE: R-1 Mr. Bagato presented a request for a carport and stated that the applicant was not in attendance. He stated that when the applicant originally bought the house the garage was converted without a permit. Code requires the applicant to have two covered spaces if G:\PlanningWanine Judy\Word FilesWRC Minutes�2007�AR070123.min.DOC Page 2 of 8 ' ARCHITECTURAL R�EW COMMISSION � MINUTES JANUARY 23, 2007 ------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr. Bagato indicated that the Code states that reduced setbacks could be approved by the Commission based on architecture merit. It could be appealed by the City Council but it would not go to Planning Commission. Commission discussed the materials that were proposed for the carport. Commissioner Van Vliet stated that he was concerned about the execution of building the carport. He was afraid they would use 4 X 4s and use all exposed brackets and it would look awful. Commissioner Vuksic expressed his concerns about the use of 2 X 8s for that span and wondered what it would look like in five (5) years. Commissioner Lopez felt it was strange to have a garage door there with a trellis in front of it. They added on the building but left the look of a garage door in front of it. Commissioner Hanson stated that if you go down Haystack you would find five (5) or six (6) of them. Commissioner Vuksic stated that the elevation was different, it was simple but pure and he could see another layer in front that could actually be beneficial to the overall aesthetics of the house. Commissioner Gregory asked how the applicant might be more successful in her choice of materials. Commissioner Hanson stated that it should be architecturally detailed. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Oppenheim, seconded by Commissioner Lopez, to continue MISC. 07-02. Motion carried 7-0. 3 CASE NO: PP 05-12 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): TAYLOR WOODROW HOMES, INC., 15 Cushing, Irvine, CA 92618-4200 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of Recreation Building, Alegria and Sonrisa product units; Spanish Walk. LOCATION: 76-000 Frank Sinatra Drive (former Emerald Desert site) ZONE: R-1 M G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word FilesWRC Minutes�2007WR070123.min.DOC Page 4 of 8 . , � ARCHITECTURAL R�EW COMMISSION � MINUTES JANUARY 23, 2007 --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr. Stendell stated that the elevations for the most part were on par with what was approved in the preliminary drawings, except there were roof drains and rain gutters on most of the units that were not on the preliminary drawings. He indicated there were no problems with the architecture and this was one of the new products where everything would be energy efficient. The Commission asked the representative why they were putting these roof drains and rain gutters everywhere. Mr. Tim Day, representative stated that this was a denser product, they are closer with more restricted areas between some of them and they were trying to protect some of that. He indicated that he wasn't sure if it was absolutely necessary. Commissioner Hanson suggested they put them only where it creates an issue over an entry/exit door. Mr. Stendell asked the Commission to review the plans for the recreation center. He stated that the Commission never physically saw a design for this building, however it is in the same style as the other units. Commission reviewed the elevation, roof drains and rain gutters. Commissioner Hanson stated that the drains and gutters were not needed everywhere. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Hanson, seconded by Commissioner Lambell, to grant approval subject to: 1) limiting roof drains and scuppers to entry/exit doors only; 2) review of landscaping plans by the Landscape Manager. Motion carried 7-0. B. Preliminary Plans: 1. CASE NO: PP 07-01 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): RENATA TYLER, LONG DRUGS, 141 North Civic Drive, Walnut Creek, CA 94596 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of a new 15, 785 square foot Longs Drug Store. LOCATION: 74-517 Highway 111 — Palm Desert Lodge ZONE: C-1/SP G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word FilesWRC Minutes�2007WR070123.min.DOC Page 5 of 8 . • r� � ' ARCHITECTURAL RE'�IEW COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 23, 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr. Bagato stated that Dennis Mitchem, representative requested a continuance. Kent Routh, representative from the Historic Preservation Committee was in attendance and stated that the committee had been involved with this property and also requested that this item be continued. He informed the Commission that the Historic Committee had been asked if this property had a historic significance and it was determined that it did not. The item that remains at issue is the old Palm Desert Lodge sign and what will become of it. There will be a meeting on Tuesday to determine whether or not the City will warehouse the sign. Mr. Bagato stated that the Commission was not in favor of the sign and keeping it would not match the architecture. Mr. Dick Baxley, Baxley Properties, stated they would rather not deal with the sign, but would discuss the issue with the committee. Commissioner Gregory stated that this was a key corner and one of the aspects of the current structure is that it was set way back from the corner and "not in your face". If this new building would be laid out to maximize the use of the site, the architecture should be up several notches instead of a generic big box type of design. Commissioner Hanson stated that what was needed was forms that were interesting and probably different from what Longs is used to doing, but that corner warrants it. She indicated that she liked the awning type element and stated that more had to be done with it as it relates to the architecture. She stated to Mr. Baxley to treat the structure as a building and not a fa�ade. Mr. Baxley stated that he would pass along this information. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner Hanson, to continue Case PP 07-1. Motion carried 7-0. G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word FilesW,RC Minutes�2007�AR070123.min.DOC Page 6 of 8 , � � w� „� ' ARCHITECTURAL RE'�IEW COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 23, 2007 --------------------------------------------------------------------- C. Miscellaneous Items: 1. CASE NO: MISC 06-46 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): KEITH SPARKMAN, 45-924 Abronia Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92262 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Review of revised exhibits for a wall exception with a minimum setback of 12 feet from curb. LOCATION: 45-924 Abronia Drive ZONE: R1 Mr. Stendell presented revised drawings for a block wall exception and discussed the type of gap in between each panel of wall. Commissioner Hanson stated that if the walls were five (5) feet high 12-feet from curb and six (6) feet high 17-feet from curb there would be about two feet between the walls. Mr. Stendell stated that the wall would be six (6) feet high 15- feet from curb leaving adequate room for the palm trees and an eight (8) inch gap between the walls. The applicant inquired about the type of material to be used and indicated he liked the look of the modern precision block, but also asked about keeping it in the same style as the slump block wall that is currently in the back of the house on the side. Commissioner Hanson stated that it would look fine using either slump or precision block. Commissioner Van Vliet asked for clarification on the gap between the walls. Commissioner Hanson stated that it would be a minimum of eight (8) inches. Commissioner Vuksic stated the gap should be four (4) inches. The Commission discussed the size of the gap and the dangers of having a gap with the pool located near the wall. It was suggested utilizing wrought iron panels or block to enclose the yard. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Vuksic, seconded by Commissioner Lambell, to grant approval of a block wall subject to: 1) five (5) feet high 12- feet from curb, and six (6) feet high 15-feet from curb; 2) precision block or slump block with a deep rake joint; and, 3) walls to include a separation no G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word FilesWRC Minutes�2007�AR070123.min.DOC Page 7 of 8 ' ARCHITECTURAL RE�'iIEW COMMISSION � MINUTES JANUARY 23, 2007 --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- larger than eight (8) inches utilizing wrought iron or block to fill in separation. Motion carried 7-0. NOTE: Mr. Stendell presented Case PP 05-02/TT 34179/CZ 05-03, which he requested to be added to the agenda. It was moved by Commissioner Lambell, seconded by Commissioner Oppenheim, to add this item. Motion carried 6-0-1-0, with Commissioner Gregory abstaining. 1. CASE NO: PP 05-02/TT 34179/CZ 05-03 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SUMMIT PROPERTIES, 2082 Michelson Drive, Suite 100, Irvine, CA 92612 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of working drawings of a new three-story condominium complex; Falling Waters. LOCATION: 73-600 35th Avenue ZONE: S1 Mr. Stendell presented the construction drawings and stated there were no changes from the preliminary approval and no conditions. Commission reviewed the elevations. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Hanson, seconded by Commissioner Vuksic, to grant approval subject to landscaping and grading approval prior to building permits being issued. Motion carried 6-0-1-0, with Commissioner Gregory abstaining. VI. ADJOURNMENT It was moved by Commissioner Hanson, seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet, to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 7-0. The meeting was adjourned at 1:00 p.m. TONY BAGA ACTING PLANNING MANAGER G:\Planning\JanineJudy\Word Files�ARC Minutes�2007�AR070123.min.DOC Page 8 of 8