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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2023-11-27 �`•�� CITY OF PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION • MINUTES November 27, 2007 I. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m. II. ROLL CALL Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ronald Gregory, Chairman X 17 4 Kristi Hanson X 18 3 Chris Van Vliet X 21 John Vuksic X 21 Ray Lopez X 17 4 Karel Lambell X 16 5 Nancy DeLuna X 10 1 Also Present Lauri Aylaian, Director Tony Bagato, Principal Planner Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner Diane Hollinger, Landscape Specialist Janine Judy, Senior Office Assistant III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: November 13, 2007 Action: It was moved by Commissioner Vuksic, seconded by Commissioner Hanson, to continue the approval of the November 13, 2007 until the meeting of December 11, 2007. Motion carried 7-0. IV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS V. CASES: ARCHITECTURAL REVMW COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 27, 2007 A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO: TT 34055 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): HOVER DEVELOPMENT CO. INC., 3 San Joaquin Plaza, Suite 215, Newport Beach, CA 92660 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of monument signage; University Village. LOCATION: 74-255 Gerald Ford Drive ZONE: PR Action: It was moved by Commissioner Vuksic, seconded by Commissioner DeLuna, to approve by minute motion. Motion carried 7-0. 2. CASE NO: N/A APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): RED CARPET CARWASH, 44- 440 Town Center Way, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of exterior paint color; Red Carpet Carwash. LOCATION: 44-440 Town Center Way Mr. Swartz presented the color samples and photos of the carwash. Commissioner DeLuna stated that she had concerns with the sheen and the actual color because the color is too much to the yellow and green camp and is not in keeping with the color combinations in Palm Desert. Commissioner Vuksic mentioned that he went out to the carwash as well as the development across the street which has some pretty bold colors, but he thought the colors applied across the street worked well. He thought that another color needed to be introduced because everything was a yellow green color and they need to break that up. He felt that the limey yellow color would be tough to pull off. GAPlanning\Janine Judy\Word Files\ARC Minutes\2007\AR071127.min.doc Page 2 of 4 W COMMISSION ARCHITECTURAL RE r.r+ MINUTES NOVEMBER 27, 2007 Mr. Dave Bullen, General Manager, stated that it goes from a pale or bright yellow to less of a yellow depending on how the sun is shining on it. Commissioner Hanson stated that the other issue was that it has a very high gloss to it that she felt they did for maintenance purposes, but what it does is accents it and changes the flavor of it as opposed to across the street which is a flatter color. Commissioner Vuksic stated that even the trash enclosure is very noticeable and it would tend to blend in if you did more with the rest of the building where you introduce some other colors instead of all the greens. Commissioner DeLuna suggested more of a brown beige or taupe. Commissioner Vuksic also suggested mixing more of a terra cotta like across the street. Commissioner Vuksic suggested that they should choose a main color that is fairly neutral and use some of the color like they have on the enclosure as an accent in spots and maybe pick another color or two for accents. Mr. Bullen stated that they would have someone take a look at the colors. Commissioner Gregory asked if the sign was staying. Mr. Bagato stated that the sign was put up without Staff's approval and they will address that in the future at staff level. He stated that the whole sign lights up. Typically when we put in these face signs we don't want signs illuminated, we want at least the background part to be opaque and do some kind of individual routed out letters. Mr. Bullen stated that this was just a reface. Mr. Bagato stated that anytime you reface or change the name on any sign in the city it requires planning approval and this typically isn't the kind of face we would approve at staff level and then would go to the Commission with a formal application. The Commission and the applicant discussed the different options for the sign. Ms. Hollinger, Landscape Specialist, discussed her concerns that the landscape changed to artificial turf which is something that the city doesn't typically promote. Commissioner DeLuna stated that artificial turf is hotter and takes more water to keep it clean and to keep it cool. Commissioner Hanson stated that if this was the statement that is being suggested by the city this should be printed somewhere where everyone would know they can't use turf. Ms. Aylaian, Director of Community Development, stated that there isn't an official city policy. This has been discussed with the Landscape Beautification Committee and they have steered clear of making an G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word Flles\ARC Minutes\2007\AR071127.nnin.doc Page 3 of 4 } ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION lvwo� MINUTES NOVEMBER 27, 2007 official policy, however it is a preference that it not be used. Mr. Bullen stated that they decided to use the turf since the area lent itself to a landscape situation where it would look good with low maintenance and doesn't require water. Ms. Aylaian stated that in larger areas there would be different maintenance concerns and if you are talking about a small self contained patio area that is otherwise tile, it probably isn't an appropriate place to have a real lawn. Generally what we try to do is encourage people to use it judiciously in places and in areas where grass might not otherwise grow or the area is too small to maintain as genuine turf and artificial turf may be appropriate to use there. The Commission and the applicant discussed the usage of the artificial turf. It was recommended to have the landscape plans reviewed by the Landscape Specialists. Mr. Bullen stated that he would return with additional color options, photos of the patio area and a sign application. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Hanson, seconded by Commissioner Lambell, to continue this item subject to the applicant submitting additional colors. Motion carried 7-0. B. Preliminary Plans: None. C. Miscellaneous Items: None. VI. ADJOURNMENT It was moved by Commissioner Vuksic, seconded by Commissioner Lambell to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 7-0. The meeting was adjourned at 1:30 p.m. TONY BA ATO PRINCIPAL PLANNER GAPlanning\Janine Judy\Word Files\ARC Minutes\2007\AR071127.min.doc Page 4 of 4