HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-01-13 CITY OF PALM DESERT
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION
MINUTES
January 13, 2009
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Ronald Gregory, Chairman X 1
Chris Van Vliet X 1
John Vuksic X 1
Karel Lambell X 1
Nancy DeLuna X 1
Pam Touschner X 1
Vacancy
Also Present
Lauri Aylaian, Director
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner
Diane Hollinger, Landscape Specialist
Hart Ponder, Code Compliance Manager
Heather Beck, Project Coordinator/RDA
Janine Judy, Senior Office Assistant
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: December 19, 2008
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Van Vliet, seconded by Commissioner
Lambell, to approve the December 19, 2008 meeting minutes with minor
changes. Motion carried 5-0-0-1, with Pam Touschner absent.
IV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
V. CASES:
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A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO: CUP 08-247
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): VERIZON WIRELESS, 15505 Sand
Canyon Avenue, Building D 1S Floor, Irvine, CA 92618
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
installation of a 70-foot faux mono-palm telecommunications facility.
LOCATION: 73-750 Dinah Shore Drive
ZONE: S.I.
Mr. Swartz presented the project and stated that this 70-foot mono-
palm was first presented back in June 2008 and was continued. He
presented a site plan and indicated that the proposed site where the
mono-palm would be located was 274 feet and pointed out an existing
tree and stated that the applicant is proposing to bring in three palm
trees at 30 feet in height. Staff went out to the site and felt that the site
was too small to hold the mono-palm and the additional palm trees.
He stated that the Landscape Specialist has also reviewed the site
and has concerns with the survivability of the palm trees since there is
no water out there. Another issue is an antenna that is not concealed
within the trunk as with previously approved mono-palms, as well as a
microwave dish. Staff also had some concerns with the proposed
mono-palm at 60 feet, palms at 30 feet and the existing building at 30
to 35 feet in height with no landscaping or palms in that area to help
screen it and felt that it would stick out. Staff understands the need for
a mono-palm in that area since there isn't one currently and
recommended a different site. Staff has expressed to the applicant
that staff is recommending denial in the way that it is designed and the
location and would like to move the project forward.
Mr. Robert McCormick, Verizon representative, stated that regarding
the concealment of the antennas they are more than happy putting the
dish inside a ball so it would be screened. He explained how the data
traffic on the networks has exceeded voice traffic and said that there is
really a need for six antennas per site as opposed to what is being
proposed and stated that the days of putting the antennas inside the
trunks or flag pole are essentially over. He pointed out that they have
reduced the number of antennas needed for this particular site from
six per side to four and added the live trees to mitigate the views and
also discussed varying the height of the new trees at 20, 30 and 40
feet to give it a more natural look. The mono-palms that have been
provided in the City have improved quite a bit over the past few years
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with looking more realistic with additional fronds, but for this area the
mono-palm is the most appropriate design. Mr. McCormick stated that
he and staff looked around for other sites and stated that they would
be more visible; they would still need the same height and would still
need the same number of trees. With the proposed site it would sit
back away from Dinah Shore and behind the office building.
The Commission discussed the height of the mono-palm, the height of
the existing buildings and the maintenance of the live palm trees.
Commissioner Lambell asked who would be responsible for watering
the trees. Mr. McCormick stated that he would be more than happy to
provide irrigation. Ms. Diana Hollinger, Landscape Specialist, agreed
that there just wasn't enough room for the mono-palm and the trees in
that area and stated that the City already has a problem with palm
trees around mono-palms that don't get watered. Mr. McCormick
stated that tree maintenance was something that he worked on with
the landlord as part of their agreement.
Mr. Bagato stated that the Planning Commission's position is to have
at least four to five live palms around a mono-palm with the antenna
inside and would settle with having two in similar locations to make up
for the capacity difference. He said that this proposed area is tight, but
the problem is that a lot of that area is still vacant with no landscape to
screen it.
The Commission discussed the size of the lot, the mono-palm, and the
number of live trees going into that area. Mr. McCormick stated that
there wasn't enough room for four to five trees.
The Commission reviewed the plans and discussed the site. The
Commission recommended that the applicant review alternative sites
along the Dinah Shore corridor and return to ARC with a propagation
map for review.
ACTION:
It was moved by Commissioner Lambell and seconded by Commissioner
Hanson to continue Case No. CUP 08-247 subject to: 1) reviewing other sites
and submit to ARC for review; 2) providing a photo sim of the monopalm from
the freeway; and 3) providing a coverage map. Motion carried 5-0-1-1, with
Commissioner Vuksic abstaining and Commissioner Touschner absent.
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2. CASE NO: SA 08-486
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): CV FOODSERVICES, INC., 73-405
El Paseo, Suite 33D, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
signage; La Spiga.
LOCATION: 72-557 Hwy 111
ZONE: O.P.
Mr. Bagato presented the project and summarized the staff report.
The applicant has submitted three sign options, and of the three
options staff recommends approval of the first option illustrating the
text "La Spiga" on an oblique side panel. This side panel would be
stepped back six inches from the front face of the original sign to add
depth. With the recommendation of this sign, staff also recommends
two changes to these signs. The first change would be to reduce the
height to eliminate the blank space above and below the text. Staff
would recommend lowering the height to nine inches below the
"Cuistot" panel so it would hit the Visitor Center sign at mid-height. The
second change would be to eliminate the words "Ristorante Italiano."
Although this text is legible in the rendering, persons driving along
Highway 111 or El Paseo may not be able to read the text at that size.
With the elimination of that text, "La Spiga" could become bolder. This
restaurant is open for dinner only and the thicker back lit letters are
more easily read at night to direct traffic into the site.
Commissioner Vuksic asked about removing the words "Ristorante
Italiano". Ms. Heather Beck, Project Coordinator stated the "La Spiga"
script is very thin, so if "Ristorante Italiano' was removed they could
thicken the "La Spiga" script so that it would be more visible at night.
The Commission felt that would be an improvement and help to get rid
of some of the clutter.
ACTION:
It was moved by Commissioner Vuksic and seconded by Commissioner
DeLuna to grant approval of the oblique side panel subject to: 1) eliminating the
words "Ristorante Italiano'; 2) thickening and repositioning "La Spiga" so that it
is centered on the element; and 3) submit to staff for review and approval.
Motion carried 5-0-0-1, with Commissioner Touschner absent.
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3. CASE NO: SA 08-458
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DINAH SHORE CROSSINGS,
73605 Dinah Shore Dr Ste 1403, Palm Desert, CA 92211
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of two
new monument signs; Dinah Shore Crossings.
LOCATION: 73605 Dinah Shore Dr
ZONE: SI
Mr. Swartz presented the project and stated that this project was
previously continued and presented color copies of the revised
proposed sign. He also stated that as part of the approval the
applicant was asked to provide a landscape plan showing irrigation.
Mr. Kevin Vaughn, sign representative, stated that the newly revised
sign is much more eye catching and the font style is more attractive.
Ms. Caroline Halquvic, applicant stated that she had a basic
landscape plan without irrigation. The Commission discussed the
proposed landscape.
Commissioner Van Vliet had some concerns with the size of the signs,
especially the one above the retaining wall. Mr. Vaughn stated that
the wall is radius, the sign is straight, and the new sign would be
setback six feet from the existing wall. Commissioner Gregory
suggested that it would help if the area was landscaped in a way to
make it feel nestled in. The Commission recommended to radius the
sign to break down the mass of 22 feet long making it look more like a
design element.
ACTION:
It was moved by Commissioner Lambell and seconded by Commissioner
DeLuna to grant approval subject to: 1) designing the sign on the radius; and 2)
landscape plans to be reviewed by the Landscape Specialist. Motion carried
4-0-1-1, with Commissioner Vuksic abstaining and Commissioner Touschner
absent.
B. Preliminary Plans:
None
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C. Miscellaneous Items:
None
VI. ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Commissioner Lambell, seconded by Commissioner Vuksic to
adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 6-0-0-1, with Commissioner Touschner absent.
The meeting was adjourned at 1:15 p.m.
TONY BAOATO
PRINCIPAL PLANNER
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