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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010-02-23 < < ' '`rrw ��rr+�` �`•�� CITY OF PALM DESERT � � ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION • ' MINUTES February 23, 2010 I. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m. II. ROL� CALL Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ronald Gregory, Chairman X 3 1 Chris Van Vliet X 4 John Vuksic X 4 Karel Lambell X 4 Pam Touschner X 3 1 Allan Levin X 4 Ken Stendell X 4 Also Present � Lauri Aylaian, Director Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner Diane Hollinger, Landscape Specialist Pedro Rodriquez, Senior Code Officer Janine Judy, Senior Office Assistant III. ORAL COMMUNICATlONS IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: February 9, 2010 Action: It was moved by Commissioner Levin, seconded by Commissioner Lambell, to approve the February 9, 2010 meeting minutes. Motion carried 5-0-1-1 , with Commissioner Touschner abstaining and Commissioner Gregory absent. V. CASES: i ARCHITECTURAL R�wrIEW COMMISSION � � MINUTES February 23, 2010 � A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO: SA 10-048 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PREST-VUKSIC ARCHITECTS, 44-530 San Pablo Avenue, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of a sign and awning program; Colonnade Building One. LOCATION: 73-399 EI Paseo ZONE: C-1 Mr. Swartz presented the project and summarized the staff report. This sign program designates building signage areas as shown on the elevations. Sign types will consist of individual mounted illuminated reverse channel/"Halo-lit" lettering, pan channel or exposed open pan neon. Letter styles and color will be approvable by the landlord and the City of Palm Desert. The landlord and the City reserve the right to require that the colors be muted, if necessary to benefit the tenant mix of signage as a whole. Sign lettering may be designed as one line or two line text as shown in the designated spaces. Window signage is allowed at the entry of each tenant's store up to 144 square inches, no higher than 4'-6" as measured from the floor. This lettering will be of Helvetica (medium) or Optima type. Store numbers will be installed by the landlord over each entry point in vinyl 4" lettering to match the project typestyle. This number will be centered vettically and horizontally within the glass panel above each door. Variation in awning is encouraged under the proposed sign program, only scalloped apron awnings would not be permitted. Awnings are always reviewed by the ARC, so at the time of application, signage and awning configuration, color, size, and shape would be reviewed. The signage program illustrates on the elevations potential locations for awnings and signage. All awnings may not be permitted to have signage. Awnings in this sign program would be non-illuminated or illuminated from an external lighting source. Lighting must be approved with the awning at time of application. An awning illuminated through the face of the fabric would not be permitted. Staff believes the signage program is complete and needs no further improvement. Building signage locations remain fixed and provide for variation in the opportunity to G:\PlanningWanine Judy\Word Files�A Minutes�2010\AR100223min.doc Page 2 of 7 . � ARCHITECTURAL RE�W COMMISSION � � MINUTES February 23, 2010 install awnings and associated signage. Details of the signage requirements are clearly indicated in the text and associated elevations. Materials remain flexible for the high—end tenants' trademarked signage that EI Paseo typically demands. Commissioner Touschner expressed her concerns regarding the review of signage for each individual tenant. Mr. John Vuksic, architect stated that as long as a tenant uses the type of signs that is recommended in the program and the sign is placed in the correct location it can potentially be approved at staff level. Commissioner Touschner asked if a site plan can be submitted for each sign for review so there is an understanding of parking. The Commission discussed the parking. Commissioner Touschner asked if there were any way finding signage. Mr. Vuksic stated that there would be no directional signage. The Commission discussed the awnings and Mr. Swartz stated that all awnings have to come back through the Commission for review. ACTION: It was moved by Commissioner Lambell and seconded by Commissioner Stendell, to grant approval. Motion carried 5-0-1-1, with Commissioner Vuksic abstaining and Commissioner Gregory absent. 2. CASE NO: SA 10-35 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): EL PASEO JEWELRY EXCHANGE, 73-375 EI Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of a new awning with signage; EI Paseo Jewelry Exchange. LOCATION: 73375 EI Paseo ZONE: C-1 SP Mr. Swartz presented the project and stated that the applicant was not able to attend the meeting and asked that staff present the case in his absent. Mr. Swartz provided photos of the awning currently in that location and explained that the new awning will come out 8'- 6" and the existing awning comes out about 4'. G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word FilesVl Minutes�2010�AR100223min.doc Page 3 of 7 ARCHITECTURAL R'�wr1EW COMMISSION �' - MINUTES February 23, 2010 The Commission reviewed the tubular frame with the metal palm trees and Commissioner Stendell pointed out that the palm trees were silhouetted in the framework. Commissioner Vuksic thought they may need more than two palm trees on the angular parts because they are quite long and the two palm trees would look lost on the side. Commissioner Touschner suggested that it look like a ribbon with a pattern that is laid out all the way around. She pointed out that the lettering on the drawing appears to match better with the lettering on the door verses what is on the exhibit. Commissioner Touschner stated that there is a lot going on with the copper, bronze and gold colors, the lettering and the palm trees and suggested picking only two colors. She felt that the design is okay, but the materials need to be simplified to complement each other. The Commission reviewed and discussed the colors proposed and discussed their concerns with how far the awning comes out. Commissioner Stendell suggested that the applicant indicate where the property line is on the right of way. Commissioner Touschner was concerned with the dirt buildup now that the awning framework is larger and requested that the applicant submit details of the framework underneath the awning. ACTION: It was moved by Commissioner Lambell and seconded by Commissioner Levin, to continue Case SA 10-35 subject to: 1) creating a ribbon pattern on the awning and wrapped all the way around with the palm trees; 2) lettering on door to match both the color rendering and the black and white rendering; 3) simplify design using only two to three colors; 4) show detail of framework underneath the awning; and 5) address property line issues. Motion carried 6-0-0-1, with Commissioner Gregory absent. B. Preliminary Plans: None G:\PlanningWanine Judy\Word Files�A Minutes�2010�AR100223min.doc Page 4 of 7 � ARCHITECTURAL RE�W COMMISSION � MINUTES February 23, 2010 C. Miscellaneous Items: NOTE: Staff requested that an additional item be added to the Agenda. The Commission concurred. It was moved by Commissioner Lambell, seconded by Commissioner Levin, adding Case No. MISC 10-29 to the agenda. Motion carried 6-0-0-1, with Commissioner Gregory absent. 1. CASE NO: MISC 10-29 . APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ARC VISION, Leslie Rice, 150 Westpark Way Ste 275, Dallas, TX 76040 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Fa�ade remodel and parapet extension for new signage; Panera Bread. LOCATION: 76075 Hwy 111 ZONE: C-1 SP Mr. Swartz presented the changes made to Panera Bread since the last meeting. Staff reviewed the changes and felt that the added element doesn't really blend in. Mr. Swartz stated that if this new element is added they should incorporate it somewhere else or just leave it as is. The Commission reviewed the plans submitted and were disappointed with the changes and felt there was no semblance of entry on this building; it was non-descript and not inviting. The Commission said they welcome Panera Bread to Palm Desert, but they have to bring something architectural to tie into the building and create a sense of entry. Commissioner Vuksic stated that they can have an understated entry and that would be okay, but the building should have a certain quality of design. Commissioner Levin suggested submitting photo shop rendering of what they are proposing. Commissioner Touschner stated that it is hard to criticize this proposal because this is a building that is empty and what if they wanted to move into the building and not make any improvements. Commissioner Vuksic stated that if they remodel this building and the Commission approves it, it will be something the City has to live with it for quite a while. G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word FilesW Minutes�2010WR100223min.doc Page J �f 7 ARCHITECTURAL R�IEW COMMISSION `��r' - MINUTES February 23, 2010 ` Commissioner Touschner asked what they were doing with the landscape. Ms. Aylaian stated that they are working with the applicant from a Code Enforcement standpoint to remove dead vegetation and restoring the turf. Ms. Aylaian pointed out to the Commission that this is a tenant improvement project and not a new building. If the Commission were to disapprove and set the bar too high, the applicant could just hang up a sign and go into business without doing anything other than restoring landscape. Commissioner Vuksic felt that the Commission was not asking for a lot and expressed that if the applicant is going to put up an entry structure it has to be appropriate to the building. He stated that the form they have is fine they just need to do it better. The Commission reviewed and discussed the entry feature. Commissioner Vuksic pointed out that at the last meeting he made comments about creating some kind of depth and shade to it because it was on the west side. Commissioner Stendell stated that he liked the suspended structural eyebrow that was presented at the first presentation and said that they need to create more of an architectural element. Commissioner Lambell requested that the applicant provide an explanation of the form. Commissioner Touschner suggested that the Commission give the applicant more direction than just to say enhance it. She expressed that the initial form is much more complimentary of the architectural style that is happening on the building already. She feels that the building is not visual because it is a solid element. The Commission discussed the architecture of the entry feature and Commissioner Lambell thought that if they moved the entry deeper into the lot away from Highway 111 that entrance would make a statement. Commissioner Vuksic disagreed and said that it doesn't have to make a statement; it just has to be an aesthetically acceptable architectural form that compliments the building as a whole. Commissioner Van Vliet suggested that the applicant submit a rendering of the project. ACTION: No action taken; discussion only. G:\PlanningWanine Judy\Word FilesVl Minutes12010�AR100223min.doc Page 6 �I 7 , ARCHITECTURAL RC�,.�W COMMISSION � MINUTES February 23, 2010 VI. ADJOURNMENT It was moved by Commissioner Stendell, seconded by Commissioner Lambell to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 6-0-0-1, with Commissioner Gregory absent. The meeting was adjourned at 1:30 p.m. KEVIN SWARTZ ASSISTANT PLANNER G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word Files�A Minutes�2010ViR100223min.doc Page 7 of 7