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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011-08-09 AA �1•�� CITY OF PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION • MINUTES August 9, 2011 I. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m. II. ROLL CALL Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ronald Gregory, Chairman X 11 2 Chris Van Vliet X 13 John Vuksic X 12 1 Karel Lambell X 10 3 Pam Touschner X 10 3 Allan Levin X 12 1 Ken Stendell X 11 2 Also Present Lauri Aylaian, Director Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner Diane Hollinger, Landscape Specialist Shawn Kilpatrick, Code Officer Christina Canales, Assistant Engineer Neal Stephenson, Fire Safety Specialist Janine Judy, Senior Office Assistant Cancelled meetings:04/12/11 &04/26/11 III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: July 26, 2011 Action: Commissioner Van Vliet moved and Commissioner Touschner seconded, to approve the July 26, 2011 meeting minutes. Motion carried 4-0-2-1, with Commissioners Lambell and Levin abstaining and Commissioner Stendell absent. V. CASES: ARCHITECTURAL RE, W COMMISSION _ r MINUTES � August 9, 2011 A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO: SA 11-312 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): TNT SIGNS, 3080 East 29tn Street, Long Beach, CA 90806 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of wall signs and adding name to existing monument signs; 990 Only Stores. LOCATION: 34-660 Monterey Avenue ZONE: P.C.-(3) S.P. Mr. Swartz presented the project and stated the proposed signage meets the zoning ordinance development standards including overall square footage of signage allowed. However, the signage on elevations Al and C1 exceed the sign area to frontage ratio of the approved sign program (.72 and .68, respectively, instead of .62). Staff is also concerned with the location of the main signage (990 Only Stores) on these same elevations. Staff recommends that the signage be lowered and centered over the storefronts' entry way. The shopping center currently has four monument signs. The applicant is proposing to add their name onto the existing monument signs. The signs are double face internally illuminated. The Commission reviewed the elevations on the north side and discussed the size of the signs. They stated the letters were huge and thought the signs would look better if they were smaller. They also felt the signs needed to be lowered and centered because the center of mass was not in the center. Mr. Bill Henigsman, TNT Signs, presented drawings to show how the signs were centered. He indicated that the ".99" on the sign overpowers the rest of the sign, making it hard to find the center point. However, it is a corporate sign and he cannot do anything with it. The Commission discussed lowering the signs and recommended lowering it 18". Commissioner Van Vliet said he was concerned with the size of the signs and felt they were too big for the building; especially because they were illuminated through the face. He asked how many buildings on Monterey had that. Mr. Henigsman stated he took GAPlanning\JanineJudy\Word Files\A Minutes\2011\AR110809min.doc Page 2 of 8 ARCHITECTURAL REV COMMISSION MINUTES August 9, 2011 pictures of several signs in the center and none of the major tenants have halo letters and several tenants had flush mounted channel letters. Commissioner Gregory was concerned with the size of the signs and said they are so large relative to the face of the building and recommended they be reduced at least a foot. Commissioner Vuksic said besides being tall, the letters are thick and would be getting a lot more lit surface than if there were a bunch of small letters. He agreed that it should be reduced at least a foot to reduce the impact. Commissioner Van Vliet said this building is highly visible on Monterey Avenue and isn't stuck way back off the street like Wal-Mart; it will get a lot of visibility with signs on all three sides. Commissioner Vuksic said if the sign is reduced to 7' it should be shifted down 2' so that it would sit right on that surface. The Commission reviewed and discussed the signs on the north elevation. Commissioner Lambell felt the signs on the north side look cramped; "99¢", "Produce" and "Deli" look like they are taking up the entire space. The signs need to be shifted down proportionally so there is some relief. She stated the monument signs looked crammed as well. In reference to the monument sign, Mr. Henigsman explained that there wasn't enough room to cut that sign out; the plate is only 13" and they have to leave an inch top and bottom. Commissioner Gregory stated in reference to the north elevation that the Commission's standard would be to have a reveal on the top and bottom for "Produce" and "Deli". Mr. Swartz stated typically the reveal would be 6" top and bottom. He recommended reducing it to 5' -7" or 6'. ACTION: Commissioner Touschner moved and Commissioner Levin seconded, to grant approval of monument sign as presented, with conditions on the following: North side: 1) show two options, one at 5' -7" and one at 6' and show dimensions between the two; 2) "Produce" and "Deli" reduced with a minimum of 6" reveal on top and bottom; and 3) staff to review and approve. South and west side: 1) ".99¢" sign reduced to 7' with 31' to the top of the "0" mark. Motion carried 6-0-0-1, with Commissioner Stendell absent. G TlanninglJanine Judy\Word Files\A Minutes12011\AR110809min.doc Page 3 of 8 ARCHITECTURAL R EW COMMISSION MINUTES August 9, 2011 2. CASE NO: MISC 11-298 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ARCHITECTURAL DIMENSIONS, 1600 s. Main Street, Suite 275, Walnut Creek, CA 94596 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of exterior facade improvements; Tommy Bahama's LOCATION: 73-595 El Paseo ZONE: C-1 Mr. Swartz presented the project and stated the applicant is repainting the building the same color as existing, removing the existing awnings and replacing them metal awnings painted brown. On the second story they are doing a pop-up on the side. He stated that signage was not a part of this approval. Staff is recommending approval. Mr. Tony Silva, Architectural Designs, presented a color rendering of the project as well as a 3-D model and stated they are updating the building. Commissioner Touschner said there was existing signage on the side and asked if that would be removed. The applicant stated it would be removed and a sign package would be submitted prior to construction that will match the sign program. Commissioner Touschner recommended that the signs are something that matches and is proportional to the building. The Commission reviewed and discussed the exterior patios. Mr. Silva stated they would be doing a retractable awning for each section. Mr. Neal Stephenson, Fire Marshall asked if the canopies will go the full length of the deck and Mr. Silva stated that most of the deck would be covered. Commissioner Gregory asked if there was a fire concern and Mr. Stephenson said yes. Mr. Silva stated the canopies would be fire retardant. Mr. Stephenson and Mr. Silva discussed the patio and awnings. Mr. Stephenson had some concerns with exiting from the patio and said at this time, there is no fire protection on the patio. He said what is proposed for the patio is a 300 occupancy load and a total of 600 occupancy for the "A" portion of that building and they want to use the stairwell for exiting to go back down into the retail space. Mr. Silva confirmed that one of their exits will be through the retail G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word Files\A Minutes\2011\AR110809min.doc Page 4 of 8 r♦ ARCHITECTURAL REN COMMISSION MINUTES August 9, 2011 space and both of the exit widths for the stairs and doors meet the occupant load. He also mentioned the patio will have overhead fire sprinklers throughout. Mr. Stephenson stated that since they are over 300 on the A portion of the building, that will take the fire alarm to a different level. It will have to continue down through the retail as well. Mr. Siva said the fire alarm is being addressed along with the fire sprinklers drawings. Commissioner Touschner pointed out there were no details or materials submitted for the new shutters. She understands the overall concept, but there were no details to review. Commissioner Gregory recommended they bring samples to a subsequent meeting to address her concerns. ACTION: Commissioner Touschner moved and Commissioner Van Vliet seconded, to grant approval as presented subject to: 1) submitting details and samples of new shutters at a subsequent meeting; and, 2) staff to review prior to building permits being issued. Motion carried 5-0-1-1, with Commissioner Vuksic abstaining and Commissioner Stendell absent. 3. CASE NO: MISC 11-299 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): THE PENTA BUILDING GROUP, 44-250 Monterey Avenue, Palm Desert, CA 922602 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of landscape enhancements to Fire Stations #33 & #71 and an addition of an awning to #33. LOCATION: Town Center Way ZONE: P Mr. Swartz presented the project and stated this is for final landscape enhancements to Fire Station No. 33 on Town Center Way, Fire Station No. 71 on the corner of Country Club/Portola, and the addition of an awning to Fire Station No. 33. The landscape plans are being preliminarily approved and any approval would be subject to landscape final approval. He presented an overhead presentation and pointed out where the awning at Fire Station No. 33 would be located. GAPlanning\Janine Judy\Word Files\A Minutes\2011\AR110809min.doc Page 5 of 8 ARCHITECTURAL R%WEW COMMISSION MINUTES August 9, 2011 Commissioner Van Vliet asked about the edge detail of the awning. Mr. David Slokken, The Penta Group, said the edge detailing will be a trimmed tapered edge with no metal frames. He described the height of the awning and how it will be mounted to the building. Commissioner Levin asked about the approval for Station No. 71 and Mr. Swartz said it was landscape only. Mr. Slokken mentioned there was a monument sign at Station No. 71 that will be relocated to the street frontage and has been included on the landscape plans. ACTION: Commissioner Vuksic moved and Commissioner Lambell seconded, to grant approval. Motion carried 4-0-2-1, with Commissioners Gregory and Touschner abstaining and Commissioner Stendell absent. 4. CASE NO: MISC 11-296 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DAVID BENTLY, 123 S. Front Street, Memphis, TN 38103 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of exterior elevation modifications with the use of red storefront mullions; Autozone. LOCATION: 73-605 Highway 111 ZONE: C-1 Mr. Swartz presented the project and stated Autozone will be located within the existing Jensen's shopping center. This complex was designed to have one cohesive appearance with separate independent retail stores. Staff made a site visit to determine if different mullion colors were typically used on various storefronts over the years. Staff found that the majority of mullions were an aluminum, light grey color, or muted brown / black. The storefront and rear door modifications are typically items that staff would approve over the counter, but the variant of red mullions in contrast with the rest of the center is why this project came before the commission. Staff recommends that the Architectural Review Commission approve the permitting and construction of exterior modifications with the use of a more muted red or neutral mullion color. G\Planning\Janine Judy\Word Res\A Minutes\201 1\AR1 10809min.doc Page 6 of 8 ARCHITECTURAL RE', ,W COMMISSION MINUTES August 9, 2011 The Commission reviewed and discussed the storefront drawings. Commissioner Van Vliet asked if the color could be muted down and Mr. John Vuksic, representative stated he thought that was possible. He reviewed the colors at the complex and noticed that all the columns have a brick detailing around the top and bottom which is a muted red color. He felt a muted red would look okay. Commissioner Gregory asked if this has been approved by the ownership and Mr. Vuksic said he wasn't sure and would look into that. Ms. Lauri Aylaian, Director of Community Development stated a few years ago a project came through for a complete remodel of this center. She asked if the Autozone storefront has been compared to the plans for the overall rehabilitation of the center and suggested that Mr. Vuksic check with ownership. ACTION: Commissioner Van Wet moved and Commissioner Levin seconded, to grant approval subject to: 1) muting the red mullions closer to a color to match the columns or a color to the match the center; and, 2) staff to review. Motion carried 5-0-1-1, with Commissioner Vuksic abstaining and Commissioner Stendell absent. B. Preliminary Plans: None C. Miscellaneous Items: 1. CASE NO: CUP 11-270 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): BARNES SOLAR INC. 19281 Echo Pass, Trabuco Canyon, CA 92679 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of an appeal of the Director of Community Development's denial of a solar panel installation on a tilt up rack system installed on the north side rather than a south side installation to match the roof pitch. LOCATION: 70 Rocio Court ZONE: PR-4 N ACTION: No action taken. Applicant withdrew their appeal. GAPlanning\Janine Judy\Word Files\A Minutes\2011 AR110809min doc Page 7 of 8 ARCHITECTURAL R�EW COMMISSION MINUTES August 9, 2011 Informational Item: Commission discussed current legislation regarding solar panels. VI. ADJOURNMENT Commissioner Lambell moved and Commissioner Vuksic seconded to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 6-0-0-1. The meeting was adjourned at 2:05 p.m. KEVIN SWARTZ ASSISTANT PLANNER &PlanningUanineJudylWord FilesW Minutes12011WR110809min.doc Page 8 of 8