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CITY OF PALM DESERT
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION
• MINUTES
July 12, 2011
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Ronald Gregory, Chairman X 9 2
Chris Van Vliet X 11
John Vuksic X 10 1
Karel Lambell X 9 2
Pam Touschner X 8 3
Allan Levin X 11
Ken Stendell X 10 1
Also Present
Lauri Aylaian, Director
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner
Missy Grisa, Assistant Planner
Spencer Knight, Landscape Manager
Pedro Rodriquez, Senior Code Officer
Christina Canales, Assistant Engineer
Neal Stephenson, Fire Safety Specialist
Janine Judy, Senior Office Assistant
Cancelled meetings:04/12/11 &04/26/11
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: June 14, 2011 & June 28, 2011
ACTION:
Commissioner Levin moved and Commissioner Van Vliet seconded, to
approve the June 14, 2011 meeting minutes. Motion carried 4-0-2-1, with
Commissioners Gregory and Touschner abstaining and Commissioner
Lambell absent.
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ACTION:
Commissioner Levin moved and Commissioner Van Wet seconded, to
approve the June 28, 2011 meeting minutes. Motion carried 5-0-1-1, with
Commissioner Stendell abstaining and Commissioner Lambell absent.
V. CASES:
A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO: SA 11-225
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DESERT CROSSING
SHOPPING CENTER, 72-333 Highway 111, Suite B2, Palm
Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of an
amendment to the master sign program; Desert Crossing.
LOCATION: 72-333 Highway 111
ZONE: C-1 SP
Mr. Swartz presented the amendment to the master sign program
for Desert Crossing. Currently the sign program for Desert
Crossing allows for halo lit letters and the applicant is now adding
reverse channel letter. Staff is okay with the channel letters and
recommends adding a condition to specify the size of the actual
square footage of the building to determine the size of the signs.
Mr. Swartz indicated that nothing else has changed in the sign
program.
Commissioner Gregory asked if staff would still have discretion
over the color of the signs. Mr. Swartz indicated that approval
would still be discretionary, which would fall back on the
Architectural Review Commission. The applicant would have to
meet the requirements of the sign program. Commissioner Vuksic
asked who determines if the sign has design merit. Mr. Swartz
stated the landlord would have to sign off on the approval and then
staff.
Commissioner Levin asked if they should define the square
footage. The Commission and staff discussed the size of signs and
the buildings. Ms. Lita Frost, representative, stated the landlord
prefers the reverse channel letters for the larger stores, which are
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19,000 to 20,000 sq. ft. They were thinking between 1,000 and
3,000 sq. ft. stores, which are the smaller tenants. The larger
would remain as is. Mr. Bagato said they probably should define in
the sign program only stores up to 3,000 sq. ft. can have either
reverse channel or interior lit signs.
ACTION:
Commissioner Vuksic moved and Commissioner Levin seconded, to grant
approval of an amendment to the master sign program to allow face lit
channel letters for tenants up to a maximum of 3,000 sq. ft. if the design
merits such a sign; based on landlord and staff approval. Motion carried 6-
0-0-1, with Commissioner Lambell absent.
2. CASE NO: CUP 10-262
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): AT&T MOBILITY, 12900 Park
Plaza Drive, Cerritos, CA 90703
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
installation of a new stealth boulder to house antennas, two sector
panel antennas, one GPS antenna, and a new column to house
antennas.
LOCATION: 51-600 Highway 74
ZONE: PCD
Mr. Swartz presented the project and summarized the staff report.
He indicated that at a previous meeting the applicant proposed a
mono-rock and a mono-column. The mono-rock will be sunken
down. The mono-column is a little over 8 feet in height and doesn't
blend in with the existing columns. Staff has some concerns with
the size of the column.
Mr. Damien Holzum, Site Acquisition, stated this is the third or
fourth iteration of this site. They went from the large duplicate
mono-rock to a smaller application. They have taken the 16 foot
rock in the back and hollowed out a little bit and sunk the rock in.
The biggest challenge they are having is with the fapade on the
face that they used to mimic a column. Commissioner Vuksic
understands why they made that to look like a column because
they incorporated it into the fence, but it doesn't really look like a
column; it looks like a shed structure.
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The Commission and the applicant reviewed and discussed the site
and options on the south side. Commissioner Gregory said this
Commission is not opposed to the faux boulder because it will meet
the applicant's needs. Commissioner Vuksic said the Commission
was opposed to what was shown before; which was a boxy looking
rock. Mr. Holzum asked the Commission if they were okay with
having the large boulder that exists plus a smaller boulder adjacent
to it. Commissioner Touschner suggested incorporating a couple of
different sized boulders around it.
Commissioner Stendell suggested they do a series of stacked
boulders to make it look natural and then have the wrought iron
fence die into it. Commissioner Gregory suggested that the
applicant submit a model for review.
The Commission and the applicant discussed the plan to excavate
the area for the larger boulder. Mr. Holzum explained they will dig
out very little and the natural rise and run actually incorporates
easily into it.
ACTION:
Commissioner Stendell moved and Commissioner Vuksic seconded, to
continue Case CUP 10-262, subject to: 1) leaving the proposed large stealth
boulder on the north side; and, 2) placing a smaller boulder on the south
side, incorporating natural rocks around it. Motion carried 6-0-0-1, with
Commissioner Lambell absent.
3. CASE NO: CUP 11-197
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): AT&T MOBILITY, 12900 Park
Plaza Drive, Cerritos, CA 90703
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approve
installation of a new wireless telecommunication facility disguised
as three boulders within Stone Eagle.
LOCATION: 72-450 Stone Eagle Drive
ZONE: HPR
Mr. Swartz presented the project and summarized the staff report.
AT&T is proposing to install a new wireless telecommunication
facility disguised as three stealth boulders located within Stone
Eagle, Stone Eagle Homeowners' have signed off and approved the
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location and design. The proposed stealth boulders are 9'-6" in
height and will house 12 panel antennas and two GPS antennas.
The applicant is proposing to locate the equipment in an
underground vault. The three stealth boulders would be painted
and textured to match the desert landscape, will not diminish the
natural hillside appearance, and will not be visible from public view.
Staff is recommending approval.
Commissioner Gregory stated the three boulders would look better if
they weren't all the same size. Commissioner Vuksic asked if staff
will review this again and Mr. Swartz said it will be reviewed again
when it comes back for building permits. Commissioner Vuksic said
this has to be better articulated because right now there are three
boulders that are pretty much the same size as shown in the photo
simulation and that is all this Commission has to go on. Mr. Hozum
agreed.
ACTION:
Commissioner Touschner moved and Commissioner Van Wet seconded, to
grant approval. Motion carried 6-0-0-1, with Commissioner Lambell absent.
4. CASE NO: CUP 11-196
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): AT&T MOBILITY, 12900 Park
Plaza Drive, Cerritos, CA 90703
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approve
installation of a new wireless telecommunication facility disguised
as one boulder within Stone Eagle.
LOCATION: 72-450 Stone Eagle Drive
ZONE: HPR
Mr. Swartz presented the project and summarized the staff report.
AT&T is proposing to install a new wireless telecommunication
facility disguised as a stealth boulder located within Stone Eagle.
Stone Eagle Homeowners' have signed off and approved the location
and design. The proposed stealth boulder is 9'-6" in height and will
house four panel antennas and two GPS antennas. The applicant is
proposing to locate the equipment behind the existing building to
the north. The stealth boulder will be designed to match the desert
landscape, will not diminish the natural hillside appearance, and will
not be visible from public view. Staff is recommending approval.
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Commissioner Van Vliet asked the applicant to make every effort to
blend it in because it looks really abnormal. Commissioner Gregory
asked if they could add some smaller boulders to enhance the mono-
rock.
ACTION:
Commissioner Van Vliet moved and Commissioner Levin seconded, to
grant approval subject to adding smaller boulders near the larger boulder.
Motion carried 6-0-0-1, with Commissioner Lambell absent.
5. CASE NO: MISC 11-270
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): BARNES SOLAR INC. 19281
Echo Pass, Trabuco Canyon, CA 92679
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of an
appeal of the Director of Community Development's denial of a
solar panel installation on a tilt up rack system installed on the north
side rather than a south side installation to match the roof pitch.
LOCATION: 70 Rocio Court
ZONE: PR-4 N
Ms. Wightman informed the Commission that the applicant has
requested this be postponed. Public notices were sent out, but no
one in attendance were here regarding this case.
ACTION:
Commissioner Stendell moved and Commissioner Vuksic seconded, to
continue Case MISC 11-270 to a meeting date uncertain per applicant's
request. Motion carried 6-0-0-1, with Commissioner Lambell absent.
6. CASE NO: CUP 10-298
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ROYAL STREET
COMMUNICATIONS, CA LLC, 350 Commerce, Suite 200, Irvine,
CA 92602
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval to install
a stealth communication tower designed as a mono-palm for six
flush mounted panel antennas to be used for wireless
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communication and to locate ancillary equipment and one GPS
antenna inside the associated equipment shelter.
LOCATION: 47-321 Highway 74
ZONE: R-1, S.P.
Ms. Wightman presented the project and summarized the staff
report. The applicant previously applied to add a decorative cross
in the church steeple belfry area, but has submitted a new design.
Upon site evaluation and review of the drawings, staff believes this
location will be better suited for the communication tower than
modifying the existing church architecture. This new proposal now
includes the installation of a 70'-0" mono-palm and six flush-
mounted antennas to the pole, hidden within the palm fronds.
Antennas will be painted to match frond color to provide additional
screening. Both the proposed mono-palm and equipment shelter
are located at the south side of the site near an existing group of
California Fan Palms. The proposed mono-palm has a bearded
appearance and is located within an existing grouping of live palms.
The proposed mono-palm will have a thicker, straighter trunk than
the adjacent trees and may stick out in appearance since they are
not clustered, but in a more lineal row. The mono-palms at the
church location to the south have several communication towers
that were approved at 50', 72', and a 65' tower amended after the
fact and replaced with a 75' tower. Staff recommends that the
Architectural Review Commission approve the project subject to
conditions and approval of modified drawings.
Commissioner Vuksic was concerned with the location being in the
median because it was out in the middle of the parking lot.
Commissioner Touschner felt it would blend in more if the equipment
shelter were moved to the other side of the chapel; on the other side
of the walkway. Commissioner Gregory agreed and said it might
work if the mono-palm and the shelter could be moved farther to the
west away from Highway 74 and the stairs. He asked if the mono-
palm would have to be taller.
Ms. Veronica Arvizu, representative, said if they go further back the
applicant would request to go higher because the hills behind the
church would block coverage. The Commission and applicant
discussed disguising the shelter, pushing it 80 feet farther to the west
and putting the mono-palm on the other side of the stairway. Ms.
Arvizu said they could use decorate block and placing a cap on it.
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Commissioner Touschner was concerned with the color and
suggested a material to match the retaining wall and a vinyl clad
roof to match in color.
The Commission discussed the location of the mono-palm and
Commissioner Touschner suggested the representative illustrate
two mono-palm locations; one farther west and one in the current
location with additional palms, as well as submitting a photo
simulation prior to approval.
ACTION:
Commissioner Stendell moved and Commissioner Touschner seconded, to
continue CUP 10-298 subject to: 1) planting two live California fan palms to
additionally screen the mono-palm trunk width from Highway 74; 2) moving
equipment enclosure farther to the west, as low as possible, past stairway;
3) illustrate two mono-palm locations; one farther west and one in current
location with additional palms; 4) equipment enclosure material to match the
retaining wall and a vinyl clad roof to match in color; and 5) submittal of a
photo simulation. Motion carried 5-0-1-1, with Commissioner Levin
abstaining and Commissioner Lambell absent.
7. CASE NO: CUP 10-292
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): REALCOM ASSOCIATES, LLC;
Verizon Wireless, Attn: Todd Fisher, 27201 Puerta Real, Ste 240,
Mission Viejo, CA 92691
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of a
telecommunication facility consisting of three sectors of four
antennas for a total of twelve, and one 2' microwave dish; Living
Desert.
LOCATION: 47-900 Portola Avenue
ZONE: P
Ms. Wightman presented the project and summarized the staff
report. The applicant originally proposed to install a 55' tall mono-
palm in an area inside The Living Desert immediately visible upon
main entry to the zoo. Staff did not support the mono-palm
submitted with exposed antennas and believed the design
attempted did not meet the definition of a stealth installation. The
Architectural Review Commission continued the case on October
13, 2010, to allow the applicant to consider co-locating with the
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other carrier proposal on-site and to re-locate the mono-palm into
the adjacent palm grove with screened equipment. Co-location was
not achieved with the other carrier. The applicant has submitted a
proposal illustrating the antennas located on top of the roof of The
Living Desert administrative building. The enclosure measures 15-
0" by 15-0" and would be surrounded on all sides by reinforced
fiberglass finished to match the building. Measured from the
ground, this building addition would reach a height of 36'-6".
Measured from the top of the roof, this feature reaches a 12'-2"
height. The associated equipment shelter located adjacent the
building measures 19'-4" by 30'-8". The equipment shelter would
match the existing finishes on-site and would measure 10'-8" in
height, slightly higher than existing walls.
Staff does not believe the roof top mounted equipment screening is
architecturally integrated into the existing building. Staff discussed
their concerns with the applicant and only revisions in height were
made to the previous submittal. The reduction in height helps
disguise the shelter, but staff would like to see the height of this
structure slightly lower to match the existing adjacent walls. Staff
recommends continuing the proposed application to allow the
applicant to further study an architectural revision to the roof top
mounted equipment screening proposal, or to further study
alternative locations on-site at The Living Desert, and reduce the
height of the 10'-8" associated equipment shelter wall height to
match existing walls.
Commissioner Vuksic agreed with staff's assessment and said this
is a handsome building and this vertical box really jumps out.
Commissioner Gregory asked if they could do a stealth mono-palm
and Mr. Todd Fisher, representative, said no because when you
install the antennas within the trunk and within the ball the amount
of antennas is limited. For the technology that Verizon is using they
need the four antennas per sector. Commissioner Gregory asked if
they could have more than one mono-palm instead of going for an
architectural solution and Mr. Fisher said he would look into that.
Commission Touschner said it is not proportional to the
architecture, which is very horizontal and encouraged him to lower
it as much as possible. She asked the applicant to submit views
from inside the park because she was concerned with what the
public would see. Mr. Fisher stated he would consider her
recommendations.
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Commissioner Vuksic didn't know what they could do to negate
this. Commissioner Van Vliet said that it is probably not the right
site for it. Commissioner Gregory said when you mess with a
building you are not enhancing it. He did not have a problem with
the faux palm approach.
Ms. Wightman asked the Commission to give the applicant some
architectural suggestions if they decide to leave it on the building.
Commissioner Stendell suggested obtaining architectural input from
the building's designer regarding the proposed building addition.
Commissioner Vuksic said if they choose to go with the structure on
the building the Commission will treat it like any new building
coming in.
ACTION:
Commissioner Stendell moved and Commissioner Touschner seconded, to
continue Case CUP 10-292 subject to: 1) structure shall be lower and more
proportional to the architecture; long and horizontal: 2) submit views from
inside the park; and, 3) obtain architectural input from the building's
designer regarding the proposed building addition or investigate an
enclosed antennae design using two mono-palms. Motion carried 6-0-0-1,
with Commissioner Lambell absent.
B. Preliminary Plans:
None
C. Miscellaneous Items:
None
VI. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Stendell moved and Commissioner Gregory seconded to adjourn
the meeting. Motion carried 6-0-0-1, with Commissioner Lambell absent. The
meeting was adjourned at 1 :45 p.m.
TONY BAGATO
PRINCIPAL PLANNER
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