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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011-03-08 r r �w�r+' � ��'l� CITY OF PALM DESERT � � ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION • ' MINUTES March 8, 2011 I. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m. II. ROLL CALL Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ronald Gregory, Chairman X 4 1 Chris Van Vliet X 5 John Vuksic X 4 1 Karel Lambell X 5 Pam Touschner X 4 1 Allan Levin X 5 Ken Stendell X 5 Also Present Lauri Aylaian, Director Tony Bagato, Principal Planner Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner Diane Hollinger, Landscape Specialist Johnny Terfehr, Code Compliance Officer Christina Canales, Assistant Engineer Janine Judy, Senior Office Assistant III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: February 22, 2011 Action: Commissioner Van Vliet moved and Commissioner Levin seconded, to approve the February 22, 2011 meeting minutes with minor changes. Motion carried 7-0. V. CASES: \ ARCHITECTURAL R�,,JEW COMMISSION � ` MINUTES March 8, 2011 A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO: MISC 11-91 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PERMITS TODAY, 140 S. Lake Avenue, Suite 223, Pasadena, CA 91101 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of storefront remodel and signage; True Religion. LOCATION: 73-515 EI Paseo ZONE: C-1 Mr. Swartz presented the project and said the applicant is redoing two awnings and adding signage. Staff talked to the applicant because there was too much signage and recommended they remove the signage from the awning and keep the blade sign. He stated that the awning is being upgraded and presented photos of the existing storefront. Existing frames are being used and the signs will be illuminated. Commissioner Touschner asked about the arched entryway and Mr. Hyron Warren, Director of Store Development, said this is the existing entryway and it sets back from the storefront; like an alcove. He pointed out that it is more like a funnel; 14' down to 10'. Commissioner Lambell asked how tall the letters were and Mr. Warren said the height overall is about 2'-11", which includes "True Religion" and "Brand Jeans". She asked for the measurements from the top of the arch to the bottom of the soffit and Mr. Warren said it is 3'-1" from the top of the arch to the underside of the bulkhead. Commissioner Lambell said there has to be a little more relief between the top of the sign and the top of the arch. Mr. Warren suggested increasing it from 3"' to 6"; top and bottom. Commissioner Touschner asked him to reduce the pinch point and it would look better. Commissioner Touschner asked the applicant to show the return on the sign on the east side to be aligned with the front sign. ACTION: Commissioner Lambell moved and Commissioner Levin seconded, to grant approval subject to: 1) showing a 6" relief top and bottom on arch for signage; 2) show return on the east side sign to be in line with the arch; 3) removing signage from awning; and 4) return to staff for review and approval. Motion carried 6-0-1-0, with Commissioner Vuksic abstaining. . G:\PlanningWanine Judy\Word FilesVl Minutes�2011\ARt 10308min.doc Page 2 of 8 � ARCHITECTURAL RE�EW COMMISSION � MINUTES March 8, 2011 B. Preliminary Plans: 1. CASE NO: MISC 11-58 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): KIMLEY HORN & ASSOCIATES, INC. Attn: Tyler Hoist, 765 The City Drive, Suite 400, Orange, CA 92868 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval of a new restaurant and signage; Red Lobster. LOCATION: 72-291 Highway 111 ZONE: P.C.-3 Mr. Bagato presented the project and summarized the staff report. The applicant is requesting preliminary approval of a new Red Lobster restaurant located on the northwest corner of Fred Waring Drive and Highway 111. New handicap parking stalls will be provided for in front of the proposed restaurant. A preliminary landscape plan has been submitted for review and has received preliminary approval of the plant pallet and design concept. The building is designed as Cape Code style architecture. The building signs are located on the north, east, and south elevations of the building. The sign submittal also includes vinyl letters that will be placed on the windows. The south sign facing the interior parking lot will be a 24 square foot red channel shaped lobster critter. The east sign facing Fred Waring Drive, totals 50 square feet and is designed as a cabinet with channel letters attached to it. The panel will be non- illuminated and the letters will be individually illuminated. The edges of the cabinet are sealed so that no interior light will be exposed other than the individual letters. The north sign facing Highway 111 is designed as 24" individual letters totaling 34 square feet. The proposed design and signage complies with all the development standards of the zone. Staff believes that the materials being used and the forms of the building will provide a well-designed restaurant for the corner of Fred Waring Drive and Highway 111. The project will require approval of a Water Quality Management Plan before any building permits are issued for the project. Color and material boards were presented for the Commission's review. Mr. John Keen, Site Development Manager, pointed out on the sign facing Highway 111 will only have letters spelling out Red Lobster and will not include the lobster critter as shown in the plans. The Commission reviewed and discussed the signage on Highway 111 side and suggested they add more signage to that elevation. G:\Planning\JanineJudy\Word FilesW Minutes�2011WR110308min.doc Page 3 of 8 ARCHITECTURAL R�:IEW COMMISSION � • MINUTES March 8, 2011 Commissioner Touschner discussed the HVAC units and said they cannot be visible. This restaurant will be right at the corner and the units will be seen from all possible angles. Mr. Keen said they will work with staff to do some sight line studies. He said the way A/C units are now being designed it does create some issues, but they will review and bring back changes. Commissioner Vuksic suggested individual screens to blend in with the architecture as opposed to raising the parapets and Mr. Keen said that would work better for them. Mr. Bagato stated that he will work with the applicant on the line of site studies and discuss screening options. Commissioner Touschner discussed the landscaped area on the corner of Fred Waring and Highway 111 and suggested they plan for public access in that area. Ms. Melibe Thomas, Kimley Horn & Associates, stated there will be a storm water retention basin in that area so there won't be the ability for the public to cut through. Mr. Bagato stated they will be dedicating a right turn pocket in that area so the landscaping will change. Commissioner Vuksic had some concerns with the back of the building, which faces Highway 111. He felt that it still looks like the back of a building and thought they could add some windows along that corridor to add some interest. He also felt that signage was important on that elevation; something that will pop. The Commission reviewed and discussed the towers and Commissioner Vuksic suggested they extend all roof forms further back onto the main roof with the overall roof width matching the entry. He also suggested that the taller parapet on the right elevation extend past the building about 6', which might also help with equipment screening. The Commission reviewed and discussed the egress door and the mechanical door on the right elevation. Commissioner Touschner pointed out that the mechanical door faces the corner of Fred Waring and Highway 111 and suggested they hide both of the doors or move them. She stated this is a very prominent corner and the doors will stick out. She suggested that it be painted to blend in with the architecture and add a canopy piece to provide interest. She stated that if these doors were along the service corridor this conversation would not be taking place, but it is at the corner of a major intersection. Commissioner Stendell explained that if the mechanical door is for the main switch gears and fire riser they will have bold lettering on them. Commissioner Touschner pointed out that the applicant realized that the trash enclosure needed to be screened and feels that the mechanical door needs the same kind of treatment. Commissioner Vuksic said that since there is a lot of room on that corner they could add a well-designed screen wall to add another G:\PlanningWanine Judy\Word FilesW Minutes�2011\AR110308min.doc Page 4 of 8 • ARCHITECTURAL R�,,,,,;�W COMMISSION � MINUTES March 8, 2011 layer/dimension to completely hide the doors. The applicant said he would rather do it with landscaping and Commissioner Vuksic said the City tries to stay away from landscaping as a solution because landscape dies and never gets replaced. Commissioner Stendell suggested to shed off the side of the building and create a utility closet on the axis to the trash enclosure and put it in the alley way. He suggested a 4' x 20' pop-out shed with a pair of double doors. Ms. Thomas suggested they submit a rendering of the doors with landscaping and an awning for staff review. Commissioner Stendell made a motion to continue stating there were several major areas of concern that need to be addressed and Commissioner Lambell seconded. Commissioner Gregory asked for any further comments and Commissioner Levin mentioned the handicap parking wouldn't work and pointed out that if you come in off Fred Waring there is no way to make the turn and get in the parking space. Commissioner Van Vliet asked them to pay special attention to the HVAC units on the roof and make sure they screen it and that it works with the architecture because it is so visible up there. Commissioner Vuksic reiterated his suggestion to add about 10' of windows on the right elevation, right of the egress door to help that corner. Commissioner Lambell said they are thrilled that Red Lobster is coming to the City of Palm Desert and the Commission wants to make it work for the applicant and for the City. She urged them to go back with these suggestions and not automatically dismiss them, because it is going to work. Ms. Diane Hollinger, Landscape Specialist pointed out that they cannot move trees to make room for their signage. ACTION: Commissioner Stendell moved and Commissioner Lambell seconded, to continue Case MISC 11-58 subject to: 1) addition of individual screening for HVAC units to blend in with architecture; 2) addition of more signage on rear elevation; 3) additional window features on right elevations; 4) all roof forms need to extend further back onto the main roof; overall roof width should match entry; 5) taller parapet on right elevation to extend past building six feet; 6) on right elevation paint mechanical doors to blend in, add a canopy piece on top and screen with landscaping, or add a well-designed screen wall; 7) revise handicap parking location; and 8) study signage location with location of trees. Motion carried 7-0. G:\PlanningWanine Judy\Word FilesW Minutes�2011\AR110308min.doc Page 5 of 8 ARCHITECTURAL R�EW COMMISSION �,r' ' MINUTES March 8, 2011 2. CASE NO: PP 06-05 Amendment #1 /TT 36342 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): HIGH POINT COMMUNITIES, 20 Enterprise, Suite 320, Aliso Viejo, CA 92656 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of architectural design of 196 homes; 78 detached cluster homes; 69 attached homes; 49 single family homes; and a private recreation facility for tentative tract 36342 within The University Park. LOCATION: NWC University Park Drive & College Drive ZONE: PR-5 Mr. Swartz presented the project and summarized the staff report. The project architecture is of a Mediterranean architecture design, utilizing a mix of stucco, recessed windows, vertical columns, and earth tone colors. The plant selection is in conformance with the City's Landscape Maintenance Guide and recommendations. While the plans have not yet received preliminary approval from the City's Landscape Specialist, they are being reviewed. There are 78 cluster units, 69 attached homes, and 49 single family homes with three conceptual floor plans, with each having a Spanish, Italian, and Tuscan style. All units are two-story at a maximum height of 24' per the approved University Park Master Plan. The 196- home project complies with the General Plan Designation and with the approved University Park Master Plan. The project as designed will result in an architecturally attractive residential complex. Quality touches added to the project include direct garage access for all homes and balconies. The project also maintains pitch roof elements that provide and create a diversity on the roofs, which improves the architecture. Mr. Swartz stated staff had a concern regarding the A/C units. Currently, the A/C units are not shown on the site plan and staff is recommending that the A/C units come back to the ARC under a separate review for location approval. Mr. Steve Lugwig, High Point Communities, stated they purchased this a little over a year ago and what was approved at the time really doesn't fit today. He is excited about being the first project out at the University Park to get it fired back up again. By and large they have been able to stay within the existing footprint because the curb, sidewalks, gutters, and the sewer are already there. G:\PlanningWanine Judy\Word FilesW Mi�utes�2011�AR110308min.doc Page 6 of 8 • ARCHITECTURAL R�EW COMMISSION � MINUTES March 8, 2011 Mr. David Kent, KTGY Architect, described each elevation and styles for the Commission. He said this is a development product that will be a better benefit to the city because it is a non-attached product, less liability, and fee simple. The Commission reviewed and discussed the elevations and Commissioner Vuksic suggested the following for Plan 1 of the cluster homes: to show a foam element on the Spanish style going up on all gables to work with the overall end of the building; apply exposed rafter tails on the Tuscan elevation; on all elevations the windows on the lower level should be equally spaced with windows above; fascia and garage � walls need to be thicker on all elevations. On Plan 2 of the cluster homes he suggested the following: move the left-sided window on the upper left elevation over and balance it on the gable. On Plan 3 of the cluster homes he suggested: popping out the porch on Plan 3-C; increase the gable on Plan 3-A, and increase the column size to a framed 12" x 12". Commissioner Vuksic made additional comments overall and asked the applicant to review the return of the radius for wainscot on all elevations; on some of the elevations layer the side and rear walls to pop out from upper level to break down mass; on the single family units on elevation B make some of the hip roofs gabled to reduce the mass between the houses. Commissioner Touschner suggested they review the material used for the side gates so that it works with the architectural style of the elevations. ACTION: Commissioner Vuksic moved and Commissioner Lambell seconded, to continue subject to: 1) show foam element on Spanish style going up on all gables to work with overall end of building; 2) on all elevations windows on lower level should be equally space with windows above; 3) fascia and garage walls need to be thicker on all elevations; 4) apply exposed rafter tails on Tuscan elevation; 5) front gates need to work with the architecture style of the elevation; 6) move the left-sided window on upper left elevation over and balance on gable; 7) pop out porch on Plan 3-C elevation; 8) increase gable on Plan 3-A elevation; 9) increase column size to a framed 12 x 12; 10) review turn radius for wainscot on all elevations; 11) on some elevations layer the side and rear walls to pop out from upper level to break down mass; 12) on the single family units on elevation B make some of the hip roofs gabled to reduce the mass between the houses; 13) A/C locations to be reviewed and approved by staff; and 14) landscape plans must be preliminarily approved before going to Planning Commission. Motion carried 5-0-1-1, with Commissioner Levin abstaining and Commissioner Gregory absent. G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word FilesVl Minutes�2011�AR110308min.doc Page 7 of 8 ARCHITECTURAL F�;;IEW COMMISSION � • MINUTES March 8, 2011 C. Miscellaneous Items: VI. ADJOURNMENT Commissioner Stendell moved and Commissioner Levin seconded to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 6-0-0-1, with Commissioner Gregory absent. The meeting was adjourned at 2:15 p.m. TONY BAGATO PRINCIPAL PLANNER G:1PlanningWanine Judy\Word FilesW Minutes�2011\AR110308min.doc Page 8 of 8