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CITY OF PALM DESERT
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION
• MINUTES
September 13, 2011
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m.
11. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Ronald Gregory, Chairman X 11 3
Chris Van Vliet X 14
John Vuksic X 13 1
Karel Lambell X 11 3
Pam Touschner X 11 3
Allan Levin X 13 1
Ken Stendell X 12 2
Also Present
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner
Missy Wightman, Assistant Planner
Diane Hollinger, Landscape Specialist
Pedro Rodriquez, Senior Code Officer
Christina Canales, Assistant Engineer
Deborah Schwartz, Public Art Coordinator
Janine Judy, Senior Office Assistant
Cancelled meetings:04/12/11,04/26/11,08/23/11,
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: August 9, 2011
Action:
Commissioner Van Vliet moved and Commissioner Lambell seconded, to
approve the August 9, 2011 meeting minutes. Motion carried 5-0-1-1, with
Commissioner Stendell abstaining and Commissioner Gregory absent.
V. CASES:
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A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO: SA 11-341
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SIGNTECH, 4444 Federal Blvd, San
Diego, CA 92102
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval to add
business name to two existing monument signs; Chase Bank.
LOCATION: 74-930 Country Club Dr.
ZONE: PC-2
Mr. Swartz presented the project and stated they are going into the old
Postal Annex fronting Country Club. Currently there are two existing
monument signs; one on Cook Street and the other one on the corner
of Country Club. When these monument signs were approved, they
were only approved for two tenants and currently they look crammed.
Staff is recommending denial because by adding the Chase name it
looks even more crammed. If the applicant was located in one of the
buildings further back and didn't have visibility, staff would understand,
but they do have visibility along Cook and Country Club.
Ms. Ashley Hadwick, Sign Tech representative, agreed with the
presentation and stated they are a major tenant within this shopping
center. They are trying to bring a presence with their new signage and
feel they don't have a really good presence on Cook Street. The multi
tenant sign to the north of their space would help draw the public to
them. The monument on Country Club is closer to the road and will
have a better presence there, but they are somewhat blocked by the
tenant on the corner. The applicant has the support of the landlord
and property owner, as well as Ralph's and Rite Aid to place Chase on
the sign.
Commissioner Levin asked if there was signage on the building. Mr.
Swartz stated currently there is no signage, but the applicant came in
for a sign permit. There is one sign facing Country Club, one facing
Morton's Steakhouse and one facing the parking lot. Staff approved
the wall signage over the counter and the monument signage came to
ARC. Under a separate application, the applicant will be submitting a
conditional use permit for a drive-thru ATM.
Commissioner Vuksic stated that normally only three tenants are
allowed on monument signage and understands staff's point that this
would make it look more cluttered. He thought allowing signage on
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Cook Street is a good compromise and said they will have good
visibility on Country Club.
The Commission discussed the sign on Country Club and did not see
the need for it because they will have signage on the building.
Commissioner Stendell asked the applicant if they could live without
the sign on Country Club and Ms. Hadwick stated the main reason for
putting it on both is to have consistency on both monuments signs with
the same three tenants. Commissioner Lambell stated she would
support the signage on Cook Street and not Country Club because of
the building signage that is proposed for their building.
ACTION:
Commissioner Lambell moved and Commissioner Vuksic seconded, to grant
approval to add business name to the monument sign on Cook Street, but not
allowed on the monument sign on Country Club. Motion carried 6-0-0-1, with
Commissioner Gregory absent.
2. CASE NO: MISC 11-323
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SCM SOLUTIONS LLC, 1281 e.
Magnolia, Unit 186, fort Collins, CO 80524
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
removal of landscape on west side, extension of patio and addition of
an awning; Starbuck's.
LOCATION: 73-520 Ell Paseo
ZONE: P.C.-(3) S.P.
Mr. Swartz presented pictures of the proposed patio extension and
awning and mentioned the awning does not project into the right-of-
way. Staff is recommending approval and the landscape department
is okay with removing the hedge to give Starbuck's more visibility and
more street appeal along El Paseo.
Commissioner Vuksic said it would be nice to have more seating along
El Paseo. Normally he is bothered with an awning that goes around
and is one height. However, this one makes a lot of sense because
there are three very different elements. Commissioner Levin asked if
they were increasing the seating and Mr. Bagato said because of the
parking requirements they wouldn't be able to increase the seating.
Commissioner Touschner asked why they were putting in a railing and
Ms. Elizabeth Hughes, representative said there was a step-down and
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they also wanted to make that area more contained because
customers pull the chairs out into the right of way.
Commissioner Touschner was concerned with how the side will look
on San Pablo because it looks really tight. Ms. Hughes stated they
are trying to play off a Paris bistro and said there is a possibility that
when they get the actual measurements from building they may lose a
couple of those seats. Currently inside Starbuck's it's tight and
everything is crammed making it hard for the customers.
Commissioner Touschner requested that a section of that area and the
railing be submitted for review. Mr. Swartz stated they could submit
the construction details before permits are issued.
ACTION:
Commissioner Stendell moved and Commissioner Vuksic seconded, to grant
approval subject to Commission review of final working drawings. Motion
carried 6-0-0-1, with Commissioner Gregory absent.
3. CASE NO: SA 11-312
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ATC DESIGN GROUP, Attn Chris
Post, 301 Enterprise Street, Suite 2, Escondido, CA 92029
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of five
awnings; 990 Only Stores.
LOCATION: 34-660 Monterey Avenue
ZONE: P.C.-(3) S.P.
Mr. Bagato presented the proposal to add awnings to the 990 Only
Stores and said somehow through the construction process windows
were added in the elements were the proposed awnings will be
located. Originally these elements where a recessed part of the
building with the main building wall. Through the Building and
Planning process, the windows got permitted and are in today. Mr.
Bagato described the awnings and recommended approval.
ACTION:
Commissioner Van Vliet moved and Commissioner Vuksic seconded, to grant
approval. Motion carried 6-0-0-1, with Commissioner Gregory absent.
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4. CASE NO: PP 10-302
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): THE MAGNON COMPANIES, 825
Marlborough Avenue, Suite 200, Riverside CA 92507
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
construction plans; Department of Motor Vehicles.
LOCATION: 36-400 Technology Drive
ZONE: PCD
Mr. Bagato presented construction drawings for the Commission's
review and explained that there was one internal roof ladder in the
office area and no changes in the architecture. There was a minor
change in the site plan after the fact because the fire truck could not
make the turn radius so some of the curbing around the building got
changed, but it didn't change the building. Staff is recommending
approval.
ACTION:
Commissioner Levin moved and Commissioner Lambell seconded, to grant
approval. Motion carried 5-0-1-1, with Commissioner Touschner abstaining
and Commissioner Gregory absent.
5. CASE NO: CUP 10-298
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): ROYAL STREET COMMUNICATIONS,
CA LLC, 350 Commerce, Suite 200, Irvine, CA 92602
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval to install a
stealth communication tower designed as a mono-palm for six flush
mounted panel antennas to be used for wireless communication and
to locate ancillary equipment and one GPS antenna inside the
associated equipment shelter.
LOCATION: 47-321 Highway 74
ZONE: R-1, S.P.
Ms. Wightman stated this project has previously been seen by the
Commission several times. At a previous meeting, the Commission
requested that the applicant submit a site coverage map and two
photo simulations; one farther back to the west and one closer to Hwy
74. The applicant also attached a statement saying that if they have to
push the mono-palm further back closer to the mountain, it may
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require another telecommunication tower in the near future. Staff
recommends locating it further back from Hwy 74.
The Commission and the representative reviewed and discussed the
photo simulations, the proposed locations, the number of trees and
their heights. Commissioner Vuksic had a concern with a cluster of
trees in a sea of asphalt. Commissioner Touschner thought by putting
three to five trees there it would make the barren parking lot look
better and would add more value. She suggested adding another 35'
live tree. Ms. Veronica Arvizo, representative confirmed the sizes of
the palms to be 55', 45' and 35'.
Commissioner Van Vliet was concerned that it would be more visible
closer to Hwy 74 because it will tower over the other trees.
Commissioner Lambell stated she didn't have a problem with it closer
to Hwy 74 and felt it will provide some interest in a barren parking lot.
Commissioner Stendell said if it was closer and they created more of a
grove setting, the applicant will achieve the coverage area they need.
The Commission discussed the equipment structure and its location.
Commissioner Lambell requested that the applicant submit more
information on the structure and have it reviewed by staff on the
location and material.
Commissioner Lambell moved for approval and Commissioner Van
Vliet asked if there was any further discussion. Commissioner Vuksic
expressed again that this should be located in the back.
ACTION:
Commissioner Lambell moved and Commissioner Stendell seconded, to grant
approval subject to: 1) creating a new grove closer to Hwy 74; 2) fronds of
mono-palm shall be more in keeping of the new grove; 3) all new palms shall
be a mix of Washingtonia hybrids and Washingtonia filiferas; 4) in addition to
the proposal, one more live palm shall be planted at 40' in height; 5) submittal
of an elevation section; 6) equipment enclosure shall be reviewed by staff as to
location and material. Motion carried 3-2-1-1, with Commissioners Vuksic and
Van Wet voting NO, Commissioner Levin abstaining, and Commissioner
Gregory absent.
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6. CASE NO: MISC 11-111
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SJB PROPERTIES, LLC, 1742
Michael Lane, Pacific Palisades, CA 90272
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of a
facade entrance addition; Harbor Freight Tools.
LOCATION: 72-630 Dinah Shore Dr#101
ZONE: PC-(3) FCOZ
Ms. Wightman stated this project was previously approved by this
Commission. It was requested that the height of the slanted roof, the
average, be matched to the Dollar Tree height. When the applicant's
signage contractor came through for sign approval, staff noticed the
elevations were wrong and asked the applicant to correctly show the
elevations as approved by ARC. At that point, they continually thought
they were showing the correct elevations, but staff went out to the site
and it was built incorrectly. Staff addressed this with the applicant and
the only thing they can come up with is possibility the Dollar Tree was
surveyed incorrectly. So the final height of Harbor Freight Tools at the
tallest point of the slanted roof is exactly matching Dollar Tree. To
move forward, before they receive a final, Staff requested that the
applicant submit a revised drawing.
Ms. Wightman stated the applicant is seeking direction on how to
proceed and has submitted a new drawing with a proposed wall trellis
design to the right of the new entrance. Staff asked the applicant to
address the wall trellis with the Landscape Department because
typically in those large asphalt areas, with no other landscape, a vine
on a trellis of that nature will not survive. The Landscape Department
suggested not putting a vine there because it would not survive.
Mr. Abraham Kahen, representative presented photos of the entire
strip and suggested using the same trellis design to match Hargate
Theatre Vision fagade and placing tile work on the bottom of the
column to keep the conformity inside the shopping center. The
Commission and the applicant discussed the proposal submitted.
Commissioner Levin didn't agree with the statement that the Dollar
Tree was surveyed incorrectly. Mr. Kahen stated that city officials
signed off on the plans and the applicant found out about it when the
sign rep came in for approval of their sign package. Ms. Wightman
stated that Planning typically doesn't go out during the building
process so they didn't see this until after the fact. Building and Safety
verify height measurements and what is exactly shown on the plans.
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Planning staff worked with the planning architect several weeks before
they submitted the construction drawings and they kept showing it
incorrectly and she wanted to make sure it was shown correctly before
it went to plan check. During the building inspection process, staff
verifies what is on the plans. So either Dollar Tree is shown
incorrectly or it was built the way they wanted it built. Staff told the
applicant that the ARC may require that it be built as it was originally
approved or to bring suggestions on how to make corrections.
Mr. Kahen stated there was no budget to build it the way it was
originally approved and the landlord doesn't have the budget either.
Right now Harbor Freight isn't moving in and they want to cancel on
their lease. Their permits have been approved since June 22, and
they still haven't pulled them. He stated this was a simple mistake and
a very tough project.
The Commission reviewed the photos and discussed some options.
Commissioner Touschner suggested adding a trellis element on the
high side, to match Hargate Theatre Vision facade to go above Dollar
Tree, and the edge of the tall piece shall line up with the inside. She
also suggested adding a foam chair rail trim piece to the columns with
alternate paint color below to match the design of the existing
shopping center.
Commissioner Levin asked what adding this trellis piece would do to
the available area for the sign. The Commission reviewed this issue
and suggested that the signage be reviewed along with the addition of
the vertical piece.
ACTION:
Commissioner Touschner moved and Commissioner Stendell seconded, to
grant approval subject to: 1) add trellis element on the high side, to match
Hargate Theatre Vision facade; and 2) add foam chair rail trim piece with
alternate paint color below to match the design of the existing shopping center.
Motion carried 6-0-0-1, with Commissioner Gregory absent.
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B. Preliminary Plans:
1. CASE NO: GPA/CZ/PP 11-200 and TPM 36363
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): CITY OF PALM DESERT
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, 73510 Fred Waring, Palm Desert, CA
92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of 73-unit
affordable senior housing project on 5.5 acres; Carlos Ortega Villas.
LOCATION: Washington &Ave of the States
ZONE: PC-2, R-1, C-OP
Ms. Wightman stated this project consists of 73 affordable-housing
units, known as Carlos Ortega Villas, comprised of 64 one-bedroom
units, 8 one-bedroom units with den, and one manager's unit.
Landscape has been preliminarily reviewed, but still requires further
work to receive a final approval. Site trees are specifically located to
avoid shadows on rooftop- and carport-solar installations. Numerous
considerations have been taken into account to create the proposed
project as a net-zero development. Ms. Wightman described the
architecture and project design and recommended approval of the
architecture and overall project as presented.
Mr. Martine Alvarez, Redevelopment Manager stated they are excited
about this project not only because it is in honor and memory of Carlos
Ortega, our late friend and City Manager but it is a unique site that has
had a lot of challenges and a lot of criteria placed on it. This project
will be innovative and accomplish the City's goals of energy reduction,
from a sustainability standpoint. This has been a long time coming in
terms of acquiring the pieces of property, deconstructing it and
achieving an 81% diversion from the landfills through recycling and
reuse. They are aiming for a minimum of LEED silver and a net-zero
consumption.
Mr. Ruell Young, Architect described the project and the layout of the
development. The guiding principal on this project was a net-zero
development, which means the roof has to harvest the sun. For the
architecture, they borrowed the flavor of Casey's ranch style. He then
pointed out how the parking was laid out and where the solar panels
would be located within the project.
The Commission discussed the parking and golf cart parking. Mr.
Young said the parking could be restriped to accommodate golf carts.
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He also discussed the units that were wheel chair accessible and the
locations of the handicap parking. Commissioner Touschner had a
concern with the trash enclosures and was concerned they were not
wheel chair accessible. Mr. Young stated they are not wheel chair
accessible, and at this point he didn't have a solution.
Commissioner Stendell asked about the photovoltaic panels and
asked what the solar thermal panels were and Mr. Young stated it was
hot water with a hydronic system for each building.
The Commission and Mr. Young discussed the parking in front of the
community center. He agreed that this could be changed.
Commissioner Van Vliet said this was well laid out and nicely designed
and felt they did a great job with a difficult space.
Mr. Young said they designed a remarkable system not based on net-
zero but on sustainability, which will collect and locally hold the water
on site. Commissioner Vuksic also stated that this was a really well
done project. He expressed his thoughts on the trash enclosures and
their accessibility. He also discussed his concerns of how photovoltaic
panels become an integral part of the architecture for this project and
future projects.
ACTION:
Commissioner Levin moved and Commissioner Touschner seconded, to grant
preliminary approval. Motion carried 6-0-0-1, with Commissioner Gregory
absent.
C. Miscellaneous Items:
The Commission asked for an update on Vons and Red Lobster.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Stendell moved and Commissioner Levin seconded to adjourn the
meeting. Motion carried 6-0-0-1, with Commissioner Gregory absent. The meeting
was adjourned at 2:30 p.m.
JANINE JUDY
RECORDING SECRETARY
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