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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2012-04-10 � � � ��'•�� CITY OF PALM DESERT / , � ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION • • MINUTES April 10, 2012 I. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m. II. ROLL CALL Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ronald Gregory, Chairman X 6 Chris Van Vliet X 5 1 John Vuksic X 4 2 Karel Lambell X 6 Pam Touschner X 4 2 Allan Levin X 6 Ken Stendell X 5 1 Also Present Lauri Aylaian, Director Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner Missy Wightman, Assistant Planner Pedro Rodriquez, Senior Code Officer Janine Judy, Recording Secretary Cancelled meetings: 03/13/12 III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: March 27, 2012 Action: Commissioner Levin moved and Commissioner Lambell seconded, to approve the March 27, 2012 meeting minutes. Motion carried 4-0-1-2, with Commissioner Touschner abstaining and Commissioners Stendell and Van Vliet absent. V. CASES: ARCHITECTURAL R�;:W COMMISSION � �, MINUTES April 10, 2012 A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO: MISC 12-78 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): JOHN WESSMAN, 555 S. Sunrise Way, Suite 200, Palm Springs, CA 92264 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of an architecturat fa�ade enhancement, renovation of existing roof, and an awning covered dining patio for a new restaurant and retail suite. LOCATION: 73-520 EI Paseo ZONE: C-1 Ms. Missy Wightman, assistant planner, presented this case for preliminary approval and pointed out that a new packet of information was before the Commission today submitted yesterday by the applicant which addressed a number of staff's comments made in the staff report. The applicant is developing a 2,600 sq. ft. retail space on the east end that will exactly match Trio on the west side. In the middle, they will be developing a 4,380 sq. ft. restaurant space. She described the architectural style of the building and presented the color board with stone and awning color samples. The staff report stated the windows on the 2"d story were faux windows, but they are now real windows. They will be increasing the height of the interior space so these will be sky lights letting light through. Below are pocket doors that slide to either side so you will have the street face where people are almost sitting on the sidewalk, but separated by the railing. Originally the awnings were the type that roll out and come back up, but now they will have fixed awnings about 5' from the face of the building. The awnings protrude about 4'-6" into the public right-of-way so the applicant will have to obtain an encroachment permit. Additionally, on the first proposal they weren't addressing how far back the stone goes on the east and west side and they are showing about 25'-6" will return back. The applicant mentions that this measurement will be determined in the field. Ms. Wightman states this will be going to the City Council for fa�ade enhancement funds so on the back side of the building there are a number of items that the applicant will address: unfinished painting on Trio which will be completed; exposed electrical conduit that will be placed inside the wall; exposed HVAC G:\PlanninglJanineJudy\Word FilesW Minutes12012\120410min.doc Page 2 of 8 �` ARCHITECTURAL RE4�,V COMMISSION � MINUTES April 10, 2012 units which will have a parapet wall surrounding them so it can't be seen from the back parking lot. On the back side of the new retail space, it was originally half open with a trellis area above that will be enclosed and used as a retail storage area. The railing in the back was "Smurf" blue and now will be painted black. There is an exposed beam with a trellis feature they will be plastering over, but the ends of the trellis feature will still be protruding out. In between the trellis pop outs the openings will be plastered. Lastly, the copper half dome on the sky light will be removed. She referred to the roof plan and described how the entire area wraps around almost like a second story effect, but it will only be one-story inside. Commissioner Vuksic asked how far the stone goes back. Ms. Wightman said it shows 25'-6" but as stated by the applicant, this will be determined in the field because they want to ensure the stone appears to wrap around the entire facade. Mr. John Wessman, Developer, said if they have to run it all the way back to the corner they will, it just depends on the sight line studies from across the street. Commissioner Vuksic asked if they can see the back corner from the north side of the building. Mr. Wessman said not from the backside because the roof comes up. The back of the wall is back into the building about 40'. Once they frame this, they will know how far back it goes. They will be re-doing the kitchen as they need to, but this will be an all new dining experience with 22' high ceilings with usable windows. He said the roof is coming up higher for the air conditioning equipment. The trusses will be closer to the top of the roof and totally hidden. They will be using the EI Dorado limestone which they will white- wash to give it an old world look. Commissioner Levin asked about the railing and if there was patio seating. Ms. Wightman said the railing only comes out about 6" to 1' from the wall. When they open all the windows, it will give them an indoor/outdoor experience; they will just slide the tables up next to the wrought iron railing. G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word FilesW Minutes\2 0 1 211 2 041 0min.doc Page 3 of 8 ARCHITECTURAL RE�:W COMMISSION ;� ti MINUTES April 10, 2012 Commissioner Vuksic and the applicant discussed the cornice detail in depth. Commissioner Touschner said the east wall is huge and probabfy an eyesore of the building because there is absolutely no detail along that wall. Mr. Wessman said there was a lot of bushes and trees that would be remaining. He said he couldn't do anything to it because he was right on the property line and the trees belonged to the other property owner. Commissioner Gregory suggested he work something out with the other property owner to address the blank wall. Mr. Wessman said right now he can't control it, but he will make a sincere effort to do some landscaping there. Commissioner Touschner said the color of the retail space was a very light color and thought a darker color would actually give it a little more depth and blend away a little bit. � Mr. Wessman said he will bring back a color sample for the space and a sample of the awning color for staff review. Commissioner Touschner and Mr. Wessman discussed the wall details in depth. Commissioner Touschner asked if this will come back to the Commission during construction documents. Ms. Lauri Aylaian, Director of Community Development, said they do not need to come back unless requested by the ARC. Mr. Swartz stated the ARC will approve the design and then it will go to the City Council for fa�ade enhancement funds. The Commission and Mr. Wessman continued to discuss the walls and the stepping parapets. Commissioner Touschner stated the HVAC units need to be below the parapet. Mr. Wessman stated they would be below the parapet. G:1PlanninglJanine Judy\Word FilesW Minutes\2012\120410min.doc Page 4 of 8 � ARCHITECTURAL RE�V COMMISSION � MINUTES April 10, 2012 Commissioner Vuksic and Mr. Wessman discussed the 19'-6" high wall that goes around the tenant space on the east end of the building. Commissioner Vuksic pointed out that the 19'-6" parapet will return on the west side of the tenant space and will head north all the way to the main volume and butt into it. The Commission reviewed and discussed the size of the rear door for the deliveries to the restaurant. Commissioner Vuksic asked if this Commission looks at final working drawings to make sure they follow through on everything. Mr. Swartz said they would return for a new building. However, in the past ARC has requested this to return and the Commissioners can make that as a condition of approval. ACTION: Commissioner Touschner moved and Commissioner Levin seconded, to grant preliminary approval subject to: 1); submitting a wall section through the front elevation; 2) wrapping stone and extending it back on the east and west elevations including the northwest corner if visible from any point one block away; 3) running the east wall cap on the retail space the entire length of the wall, if visible; 4) use a darker color for the proposed retail space; 5) submit new color samples of retail space and awning, and 6) submittal of final working drawings illustrating all of the above prior to permitting. Motion carried 5-0-0-2, with Commissioners Stendell and Van Vliet absent. 2. CASE NO: SA 12-88 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DANIEL ANBARTOUMIAN, 41461 Jamaica Sands Drive, Bermuda Dunes, CA 92203 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of a monument sign; Casablanca. LOCATION: 41-750 '/z Colada Court ZONE: PR-5 Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner said this was continued from the last meeting to allow the applicant to redesign the monument sign. The original design was a rock with stone columns. The G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word Files�A Minutes\2012\120410min.doc Page 5 of 8 ARCHITECTURAL R�W COMMISSION � - MINUTES April 10, 2012 Commission felt the columns didn't match anything on the property. He said the current photos show the existing columns with the new stone on the block. Commissioner Touschner said she would abstain from this case since she didn't attend the last meeting. Mr. Swartz said the original sign was aimed towards Hovley Lane on a huge slope and now the applicant is shifting the sign so it would be located in between the two light fixtures shown in the exhibit. The applicant still wants to go with the stone columns. The stone will match what is currently there in the background instead of the stone veneer which doesn't match anything. Staff recommends approval of the new design. He stated the applicant will come in with a new landscape plan with desert landscape around the sign. However, approval of this sign is subject to final landscape approval before building permits are issued. Eventually Casablanca will tear out all the turf and replace with desert landscaping on Portola and Hovley. Commissioner Vuksic asked if the white surface was plaster or slump block. Mr. Swartz stated it would be stucco. Commissioner Vuksic asked what the 3-inch piece on top of the columns would be. Mr. Daniel Anbartoumian, applicant, said the top was a half-inch veneer type of brick that would match the block wall on the existing property line. At the last meeting, there was a concern that the posts were too high and he suggested they could go down to 8" above grade instead of 18" as presented on the original plan. Mr. Swartz pointed out that at the last meeting, ARC recommended removing the columns and having the rock sit on the slope making it look like one giant rock. Commissioner Vuksic said if they are only going to have 8" flints why not just have the stone nestled into the side of the hill. Mr. Anbartoumian was concerned with the slope and with the sign weighting close to 2,000 pounds he wanted it on a good solid footing. G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word FilesW Minutes12012\120410min.doc Page 6 of 8 ARCHITECTURAL RE�'V COMMISSION �;; MINUTES April 10, 2012 Commissioner Vuksic said it may require footings and suggested instead of having 8" flints, why not prepare the foundation to accept a slab of stone. Mr. Anbartoumian thought that would require a bigger stone. The stone they are proposing is 4' tall and a 6' to 7' tall stone is hard to come by. It took him almost a month and a half to find this one. Commissioner Vuksic said if he brought the grade up, he could lower the footings 8" so it is flush with the finished grade. Mr. Anbartoumian said he could do that but Casablanca wanted to see a little bit of column sticking out. Commissioner Gregory said the detail shows it inserted into the post, so maybe a few inches would show of the post if it was built the same way. Commissioner Vuksic said they may have to angle the front of the plank instead of having it be horizontal. Commissioner Vuksic made the motion and Commissioner Lambell seconded. Commissioner Gregory asked how the Commissioners felt about the black letters as opposed to dark brown because the vernacular seems to be more of a brown. Commissioner Vuksic agreed that it would be a lot easier on the eye if it were a dark brown or bronze. Mr. Anbartoumian didn't think Casablanca would object, but he would have to inform them of the Commission's recommendation. Commissioner Vuksic amended his motion to include dark brown or bronze lettering and Commissioner Lambell seconded. Mr. Swartz reminded the Commission approval is subject to final landscape approval before building permits are issued. G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word Files�A Minutes\2012\120410min.doc Page 7 of 8 ARCHITECTURAL RE�;W COMMISSION � `� MINUTES April 10, 2012 ACTION: Commissioner Vuksic moved and Commissioner Lambell seconded, to grant approval subject to: 1) posts shall not be visible; 2) sign shall be flush with grade; 3) lettering shall be dark brown or bronze; and, 4) landscape plan shall be approved before building permit is issued. Motion carried 4-0-1-2, with Commissioner Touschner abstaining and Commissioners Stendell and Van Vliet absent. Commissioner Touschner excused herself at 1:15 p.m. B. Preliminary Plans: None C. Miscellaneous Items None VI. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES UPDATE — Commissioner John Vuksic None. VII. COMMENTS Ms. Aylaian discussed a call received from a resident concerned with the architectural style and color of the Red Lobster. She stated that the City does not dictate architectural style and explained the approval process. She informed the resident that if she wanted the City to dictate an architectural style that is the call of the policy makers. Commissioner Vuksic mentioned that the thickness of the roof volume on the south side was not as deep as was recommend by this Commission. Ms. Aylaian said she would have the inspectors verify the depth. VIII. ADJOURNMENT Commissioner Gregory moved and Commissioner Lambell seconded to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 4-0-0-3, with Commissioners Stendell, Touschner and Van Vliet absent. The meeting was adjourned at 1:35 p.m. r '/' J INE JUpY ECORDI G ECRETARY G:\Planning\JanineJudy\Word Files�A Minutes\2012\120410min.doc Page 8 of 8