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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2012-01-24 � ��7� `� � � � CITY OF PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION ' ' MINUTES January 24, 2012 I. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m. II. ROLL CALL Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ronald Gregory, Chairman X 2 Chris Van Vliet X 2 John Vuksic X � 1 1 Karel Lambell X 2 Pam Touschner X 2 Allan Levin X 2 Ken Stendell X 2 Also Present Tony Bagato, Principal Planner Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner Diane Hollinger, Landscape Specialist Pedro Rodriquez, Senior Code Officer Christina Canales, Assistant Engineer Janine Judy, Recording Secretary Cancelled meetings: III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: January 10, 2012 Action: Commissioner Levin moved and Commissioner Van Vliet seconded, to approve the January 10, 2012 meeting minutes with minor changes. Motion carried 6-0-1-0, with Commissioner Vuksic abstaining. V. CASES: ARCHITECTURAL R` 'EW COMMISSION ; MINUTES �''' ``'� January 24, 2012 A. Finai Drawings: 1. CASE NO: MISC 11-323 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SCM SOLUTIONS LLC, 1281 e. Magnolia, Unit 186, fort Collins, CO 80524 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of construction drawings; Starbuck's LOCATION: 73-520 EI Paseo ZONE: C-1, S.P. Mr. Swartz stated this was continued from the last meeting and said the applicant has provided a rendering of the how the gate will look in the rear landscaping, as well as the 8" slope. Commissioner Vuksic thought the site slopes more than what was presented and wanted to know how they established the dimension. Mr. TJ Kucewesky, Representative, said the section was fairly level and drops a little, but not significantly. Commissioner Vuksic said according to the rendering the new railing is aligning with the existing railing on the north end and asked if that railing was on the existing ramp system. Mr. Kucewesky said it was on a handicap ramp, but the railing is located on top of the curb and will be as high as the proposed railing. Commissioner Lambell asked what the height of the railing will be and Mr. Kucewesky said it was 2'-8" sitting on top of a smalf concrete curb. Mr. Swartz provided photos of the curb and the proposed area of the railing. Commissioner Vuksic noticed the planter curb was fairly consistent but he thinks they are losing ground in relation to the height of the building and asked if the measurement was from the existing sidewalk to the existing curb. Mr. Kucewesky said it was from the height of the sidewalk to the top of the proposed patio; 8 '/". Commissioner Vuksic noticed the proportion in the rendering looked a lot different than the elevation and asked which one was more accurate. Mr. Kucewesky said the elevation with the horizontal panels was correct. Commissioner Vuksic said that would look better and less cluttered. He asked why they were putting a railing on the EI Paseo side and Mr. Kucewesky said that � was basically designed to contain the patio because the tables and G:\Planning\JanineJudylWord FilesW Minutes12012N20124min.doc Page 2 of 5 ARCHITECTURAL REV'"N COMMISSION f MINUTES `r•+r �.ry January 24, 2012 chairs get moved out into the right-of-way and onto the sidewalk. Mr. Bagato stated that it could become a safety issue if it was in the right-of-way. Commissioner Vuksic understands the reason for the railing on San Pablo, but thought it was a shame to have railings on both sides because it loses any architectural significance and becomes a very utilitarian looking thing right on EI Paseo. Commissioner Van Vliet asked if the City was requiring this or were they doing it on their own and Mr. Bagato said the applicant prefers the tables and chairs to be out of the right-of-way. Commissioner Touschner said the railing on the west side is 2'-8" above the curb but the one on EI Paseo is not on a curb and wondered if that was also 2'-8" or higher. Mr. Kucewesky said it was the same. Commissioner Touschner stated the two railings would not be at the same height and Mr. Kucewesky said the way the patio is designed it would be level all the way across. The Commission and the applicant discussed the different heights. Commissioner Vuksic asked if the top of the curb was at the same level as the patio and Mr. Kucewesky said starting on the EI Paseo side of the patio it's flush with the curb and then it goes up 2 '/" above the curb on the other side to maintain level on the patio. Commissioner Vuksic asked if the patio was higher than the curb and Commissioner Stendell said it was 2 '/" to maintain level. Commissioner Vuksic said don't you need the curb for the patio to have a place to stop and Mr. Kucewesky said the patio would be rolled down to meet the curb at that end. Commissioner Van Vliet thought the curb was going to make up that differential. The Commission discussed the slope of the curb and suggested demolishing the old curb and replacing it with a new one so that it is clean. The Commission continued to discuss the curb and the slope. Commissioner Vuksic said these were important details and asked the applicant if he could see why they were asking all these questions. Mr. Kucewesky understood and said the way they looked at the 2" it's not perceptible as you drive by or walk by unless you are standing there looking for the difference between the curb and the paver. Commissioner Vuksic thought the applicant didn't have good answers to the questions. Mr. Kucewesky said the entire patio will be sloped a little to shed water and Commissioner Vuksic said 2" was quite a lot when you are trying to level a chair. Commissioner Stendell asked if they would have a problem with returning it to the building instead of to the G:\PlanninglJanine Judy\Word FilesW Minutes12012\120124m�n.doc Page 3 of 5 ARCHITECTURAL RE` �W COMMISSION MINUTES �'"""'' ``'� January 24, 2012 � handicap slope and Mr. Kucewesky said it probably would not be a problem returning it to the building. Commissioner Vuksic said if the rail was mounted to the curb how does it work if the rail actually slopes down and Mr. Kucewesky said there would be a slight difference at one end of the patio; about 2 '/4". Commissioner Vuksic made a motion to approve subject to pouring a new planter curb to make it level with new patio and returning rail into the building and not intruding with existing handicap rail. Commissioner Gregory asked for any further comments. Ms. Christina Canales, Public Works informed the applicant that the railing cannot be in the right of way on the EI Paseo side. Mr. Swartz asked the applicant to resubmit the changes to Building and Safety. ACTION: Commissioner Vuksic moved and Commissioner Stendell seconded, to grant approval subject to: 1) pouring a new planter curb to make it level with new patio; and 2) returning rail into the building and not intruding with existing handicap rail. Motion carried 7-0. 2. CASE NO: SA 12-19 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): JUDY KLIMEK, 73-200 EI Paseo, Suite 3C, Palm Desert, CA NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of awning and signage; Judy Klimek. LOCATION: 73-200 EI Paseo, Suite 3C ZONE: C-1, S.P. Mr. Swartz presented photos of the building and the proposed awning and informed the Commission that the awning would not project into the right of way. The Commission reviewed the plans and wondered if the awning would extend over the entire portion of the building. Commissioner Gregory said if the tenant or the applicant also has the space with the orange windows, then the awning should run all the way across. If they only have the space to the left of that door, then it would be okay to cover what they are proposing. (`i\Planning\Janine Judy\Word FilesW Minutes\20121120124min.doc Page 4 of 5 ARCHITECTURAL REV� 'N COMMISSION MINUTES "'�'`' '`�''` January 24, 2012 ACTION: Commissioner Gregory moved and Commissioner Stendell seconded, to grant approval as proposed if applicant is not leasing the tenant space next door; if leasing tenant space next door, then the awning must project the length of building Motion carried 7-0. B. Preliminary Plans: None C. Miscellaneous Items: None V. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES UPDATE — Commissioner John Vuksic Commissioner Vuksic updated the Commission on agenda items from the last Art in Public Places meeting: the Commission approved the art sculptures for the Palm Springs Art Museum; an art sculpture was approved for the Oracle Plaza; the fence at Washington Charter has been removed and relocated to the Soccer Park on Hovley; the Public Art film series has begun; the topic for the student art and essay contest this year is "My Hopes and Dreams for Palm Desert in 20 years"; and the change out of the art work has begun on EI Paseo. VI. COMMENTS None VII. ADJOURNMENT Commissioner Stendell moved and Commissioner Lambell seconded to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 7-0. The meeting was adjourned at 1:05 p.m. JANINE JUDY RECORDING SECRETARY G`�Planning\Janine JudylWord FilesVl Minutes\2012\120124min.doc Page 5 of 5 � � Y