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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2012-05-08 � . J� � �. ���'�� CITY OF PALM DESERT / , � ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION ' ' MINUTES May 8, 2012 I. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m. II. ROLL CALL Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ronald Gregory, Chairman X 8 Chris Van Vliet X 7 � John Vuksic X 6 2 Karel Lambell X 8 Pam Touschner X 6 2 Allan Levin X 8 Ken Stendell X 7 1 Also Present Lauri Aylaian, Director Tony Bagato, Principal Planner Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner Pedro Rodriquez, Senior Code Officer Christina Canales, Assistant Engineer Debbie Thompson, AIPP Janine Judy, Recording Secretary Cancelled meetings: 03/13/12 III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS None IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: April 24, 2012 Action: Commissioner Van Vliet moved to approve the April 24, 2012 meeting minutes. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Levin and carried by a 7-0 vote. V. CASES: ARCHITECTURAL REVIE�:COMMISSION � �� MINUTES � May 8, 2012 A. Finai Drawings: 1. CASE NO: MISC 12-123 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): GLEN CEILEY, 304 Evening Star Lane, Newport Beach, CA 92660 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval to permit the design and construction of a 5' high block wall 12'-6" from curb along Willow Street. LOCATION: 46-553 Desert Lily Drive ZONE: Mr. Kevin Swartz, assistant planner, stated this was continued from the last meeting for a wall exception. The applicant is still asking for a 5' wall 10' from curb along Willow Street and 12' from curb along Desert Lily. The applicant submitted revisions to his proposal and is still requesting a 5' wall. He meets code along Desert Lily and as you come around on Willow Street it maintains 15' per code, but then it jogs down to 12'-6". The applicant is asking for a wall exception only on along Willow Street. It was 10' from curb, but the applicant has pushed it back to 12'-6". Staff recommends approval because he's only asking for a small portion of the wall. Staff talked with the Mr. Rover, the concerned neighbor and he was okay with the changes. Commissioner Gregory stated there are rules for a reason and asked what would be the Commission's reason for not insisting on the letter of the law being followed. Because someday they will face this again just as they did with the wall across the street being closer than it should have been. Commissioner Vuksic said it would be acceptable if there was some give and take where the wall comes in and out in some areas and balances out. MR. HERMANN said they will work this so it looks good. The homeowner's have a very high quality of taste and value in what they are trying to do. This isn't going to be a stucco wall with an ugly concrete cap on it. Right now they are trying to get a little more room on the one side and then they will get into the design and development of this wall. G:1Planning\Janine Judy\Word FIIesW Minules\2012\120508min.doc Page 2 of 8 ' ` ARCHITECTURAL RE' :W COMMISSION MINUTES � � May 8, 2012 Commissioner Vuksic said the minimum standard in the ordinance is to be at the setback with pilasters and that's in lieu of any design. He felt the applicant was doing the minimal requirement except he was asking to encroach in the setback. Commissioner Gregory pointed out that they have the beginning of a step pattern where the wall is closer to the street to the west. He asked what if they step up again and broaden the curve of the radius. It would be a logical stepping of the wall and would be a relatively minor compromise with more give and take. The Commission and the applicant discussed stepping of the wall and the area for the shuffle board court, horseshoe pit and pool equipment. Commissioner Vuksic said they need to have a meandering wall or something that had some architectural design value to it to allow the encroachments. Commissioner Stendell suggested stepping of the wall and submitted a drawing. The Commission reviewed the drawing. Commissioner Gregory said it would be a significant give back and help the articulation of the wall. Commissioner Vuksic said there is a theme that is developing by stepping the wall. Commissioner Touschner said if the wall is articulated in multiple locations and steps in and out, then the Commission would consider impeding into the 15' setback. If not, and it's going to be a simple straight wall then it will not be approved. ACTION: Commissioner Touschner moved to continue Case No. Misc 12-123 subject to: 1) articulate wall in multiple locations with two or more steps to provide relief; and 2) design to return for ARC review. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Stendell and carried by a 7-0 vote. G:1Planning\Janine Judy\Word FileslA Minutes\2012\120508min.doc Page 3 of 8 ARCHITECTURAL R�,:W COMMISSION ' ' MINUTES � May 8, 2012 2. CASE NO: MISC 12-130 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS)• DALE GARDON DESIGN, Attn: David Davis, 20885 North 90 Place Suite 100, Scottsdale, AZ 85255 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of an exterior fa�ade renovation; The Shops on EI Paseo. LOCATION: 73-130 EI Paseo ZONE: C-1, S.P. Commissioners Gregory and Vuksic recused themselves. Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, presented the project and summarized the staff report. Phase I is being presented today which is approval of exterior faCade enhancements. Phase II consists of a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) to allow a restaurant (Wolfgang Puck) to operate in Building #3. The CUP has not yet been submitted. Phase III will consist of a parking lot and landscape enhancements, trash enclosures, and paving material on the north side of the property. A Water Quality Management Plan (WQMP) is required and has been submitted to the City Engineer. Phase III will not be submitted for ARC consideration until the WQMP is preliminary approved. Mr. Swartz stated the applicant is seeking preliminary approval of Phase I, fa�ade enhancement to an existing property on EI Paseo. The proposal consists of removing a portion of Building #1 creating two new storefronts, which will face the new pedestrian environment. This will also create a secondary entrance from the parking lot. The applicant is also proposing to move two existing storefronts 5' closer to the street (EI Paseo) for improved visibility of retail entries and facades. Staff recommends approval of the fa�ade enhancement subject to commissioner comments. MR. DAVID DAVIS, architect, presented a PowerPoint presentation, as well as a color board, materials board, and a landscape cfrawing. He described the project and said their concept is to create a strong street presence with a one-story building. G:\Planning\Janine JudylWord FileslA Minules\2012\120508min.doc Page 4 of 8 ` ' ARCHITECTURAL RE' =W COMMISSION MINUTES � � May 8, 2012 Mr. Swartz stated the applicant will have to do a sign program, but the awnings would be approved today. He reminded the Commission that the flat work, parking lot, sign program, awning detail, and landscaping will come back for approval. Commissioner Lambell was concerned with the possibility of multiple areas for signage. Not only on the awning, but the taller parapet and the short parapet below and felt it would get cluttered. The Commission and the applicant discussed the awnings and the location of the signage. Commissioner Levin pointed out that the PowerPoint slide presented was the opposite of what was presented in the Commission's packet. MR. DAVIS said after reviewing the locations of the striped and the solid black awnings, they are leaning more towards the one presented on the PowerPoint, which has more striped. He asked if the Comrnission would be approving where the striped and solid black would be located or would they be flexible in that area. Commissioner Van Vliet asked the applicant to study it more and then bring it back to ARC. The Commission and the applicant discussed the Spanish Mission style and the color of the proposed awnings. Commissioner Touschner told the applicant they need to determine what their style is and what their signage package will be. She didn't think it was in their best interest for the Commission to approve where the awnings will be located. MR. DAVIS said they are confident they have the awnings in the right location and mounted at the preferred height. The style is Mediterranean Classic Spanish, but the Mediterranean comes in the striped awning and there is also a little bit of contemporary version of Spanish Mission. They would appreciate it if the Commission will review and approve the awnings by location, height, pattern, and color and let them bring back the signage package for review. G:1Planning\Janine Judy\Word FileslA Minutes\201 211 20 508min.doc Page 5 of 8 ARCHITECTURAL RE�W COMMISSION ' ' MINUTES � May 8, 2012 Commissioner Touschner agreed with the first three; location, height, and detail. However, there are two different elevations and on one side there is a little too much striped. She wasn't comfortable and asked him to revisit that. MR. DAVIS said they are more comfortable with the one presented on the PowerPoint and understood her comment based on that. Commissioner Van Vliet asked if they were still planning on putting signage on the striped awnings. . MR. DAVIS said that was an option if the flap was solid black only. He asked the Commission if they need to see where they are exactly by the pattern or will they give the property owners the flexibifity on the concept, texture, pattern. Commissioner Lambell said they are looking for the merit of the building architecturalty speaking and certainly an awning that is black and white striped gives a personality that we have to pay attention to. Right now she could not approve the one presented on the PowerPoint. She thought the more black and white you're going to get, the more difficult the signage program will be to enforce and approve because you have no place to put it. One of the wonderful things about this building is that you are looking at it as a whote rather than as individual bits. She asked them not to break it up with clutter. MR. DAVIS said the signage will be a combination of plaque wall signage, blade signage, signage above the awning, and in some cases they probably will have signage on the flap of the awning. The Commission discussed the palms trees the appficant will be adding and removing along EI Paseo. MR. DAVIS said their plan is to use the ones that are straight and repurpose the ones that are not straight on another part of the property. The Commission asked Mr. Swartz what they were approving today. G:1PlanninglJanine JudylWord Files�A Minutes\20121120508min.doc Page 6 of 8 � ' ARCHITECTURAL RE �W COMMISSION MINUTES � � May 8, 2012 Mr. Swartz said what was being presented for approval was the exterior fa�ade, and the height and location of the awning. The applicant will then bring back the landscape, flat work, the sign program, and awning details. Commissioner Levin asked about the service entry near the patios and the parking lot and asked how they have will access the restaurant. Mr. Bagato stated that is not uncommon for other restaurants and pointed out a couple that have outdoor patios next to their service entry. The deliveries are usually in the morning when they are not serving food yet. He said those are things they could look at when they bring in the revised site plan. MR. DAVIS said trees and shrubs will provide a landscape buffer between the walkway that connects the parking to the service area. Time of day and the landscape buffer is their solution. Commissioner Stendell went back to the awnings and said he agrees that the awnings will get a little too busy and felt it didn't lend to any signage on the awning. He liked the proposed awnings and said it looks a lot better than what is out there now. The proposed awnings bring continuity to the street. He said they should try and keep the signage off the stripes. He feels the stripes will become convoluted. Commissioner Stendell made a motion to preliminary approve and Commissioner Levin seconded. The Commission and the applicant continued to discuss the solid black and striped awnings. MR. FLETCHER said they wrestled with the color internally and came to the conclusion that they wanted a unified look with the solid black and black and white look. Adding other colors is something they do not want to do. They want to come to some that the Commission will be happy with. They wanted to know if the Commission is comfortable with a black unified awning program for the development. If not, they will need to revisit. G:\PlanninglJanine Judy\Word FilesW Minutes\2012\120508min.doc Page 7 of 8 ARCHITECTURAL RE,�:W COMMISSION • �r MINUTES � May 8, 2012 Commissioner Lambell said she didn't have a problem with the solid black and the black and white striped. It's how many and where. Commissioner Stendell stated it will be determined by the packet elevation verses the screen elevation. ACTION: Commissioner Stendell moved to approve fa�ade as presented in packet submittal, as well as height and location of awnings as shown in packet. Applicant to return with sign program along with awning color, parking lot improvements, landscape plans, and flat work. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Levin and carried by a 5-0-0-2 vote, with Commissioner Gregory and Vuksic absent. B. Preliminary Plans: None C. Miscellaneous Items: None VI. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES UPDATE — Commissioner John Vuksic Commissioner Vuskic pre$ented photos of the new sculptures being placed on Et Paseo and a brochure of the Palm Springs Museum. VII. COMMENTS Mr. Bagato reported that Red Lobster wil� bring in revised structural plans for the three tower etements. Commissioner Vuksic was concerned with the 7' green electrical box facing Highway 111. Mr. Bagato will check with the contractor. Commission discussed the construction of the new DMV on Gerald Ford. VIII. ADJOURNMENT Upon a motion by Commissioner Stendell, second by Commissioner Levin, and by a 7-0 vote the meeting was adjourned at 1:50 p.m. �. 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