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December 10, 2013
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Chris Van Vliet, Chair X 20 1
Karel Lambell, Vice Chair X 20 1
John Vuksic X 19 2
Allan Levin X 20 1
Paul Clark X 20 1
Gene Colombini X 21
Michael McAuliffe X 17 1
Jim McIntosh X 16 2
Also Present
Lauri Aylaian, Director
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner
Eric Ceja, Associate Planner
Shawn Kilpatrick, Code Officer
Christina Canales, Assistant Engineer
Janine Judy, Recording Secretary
Cancelled meetings: 05/28/13,10/08/13
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: November 26, 2013
Action:
Commissioner Levin moved to approve the November 26, 2013 meeting
minutes. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Vuksic and carried by a 7-
0-0-1 vote, with Commissioner McIntosh absent.
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V. CASES:
A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO: SA 13-362
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: SIGN-A-RAMA, 41-945 Boardwalk #L,
Palm Desert, CA 92211
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
revisions to an existing sign program; Waring Plaza.
LOCATION: 72-670 Fred Waring Drive, Suite 201
ZONE: O.P.
Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, said this project was continued
with conditions from a previous meeting. He pointed out the changes
to the signs for Buildings A, B, and C and their locations. The applicant
has removed all the signs on the sides and rear and has decided to go
with a directory. Only the suites facing Fred Waring Drive will be
allowed to have a sign. The letters will be individual and not in a frame
as previously proposed, with the exception of the two hanging signs
located on the second floor and blade signs located in the walkways.
Staff feels that they have reduced the signage which looks much nicer
and is recommending approval.
The Commission reviewed and discussed the signs on Building A and
was concerned with the size of the letters; 18" tall x 9' long. MR. FRED
HARRINGTON, applicant, said it is about half the size of the sign
currently there and strictly relative to the area that is available for
signage. The Commission discussed the size of the letters above the
arches which looked a little out of scale and discussed the issue of
clutter.
ACTION:
Commissioner Vuksic moved to approve subject to: 1) sign letter heights shall
be limited to 12" except where smaller letter heights are identified; 2) sign
letter heights for Building A, Suites 103 and 104 shall be limited to 10" in
height and 72" in width, and 3) on Building C (south elevation), one sign is
limited on exterior surface for either Suite 102 or 202, but not for both. Motion
seconded by Commissioner Lambell and carried by a 7-0-0-1 vote, with
Commissioner McIntosh absent.
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2. CASE NO: SA 13-413
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: SIGN-A-RAMA, 41-945 Boardwalk #L,
Palm Desert, CA 92211
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
non-illuminated monument sign; Congregational United Church of
the Desert.
LOCATION: 43-250 Warner Trail
ZONE: R-1, 9,000
Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner said this proposal is for a
monument sign at the Congregational United Church of the Desert.
There is an existing rock that is being used as a monument sign and is
16' behind curb. Instead of removing the rock it will be covered with an
aluminum panel with non-illuminated white acrylic letters. The sign is
staying in the same exact location and is out of the right-of-way.
Commissioner Vuksic asked if the light tan frame or border comes out
beyond the dark brown field or are they on the same plane. Mr. Swartz
said that it comes out and is bolted into the rock. Commissioner Vuksic
asked where the letters were in relation to the brown surface. MR.
JEFF GRADY, Sign-A-Rama, said they are proposing a quarter inch
thick acrylic so it will be flush mounted to the aluminum cabinet. Chair
Van Vliet asked how they will compensate for the slope in the concrete
and MR. GRADY said it was level and would be attached at the base.
ACTION:
Commissioner Lambell moved to approve. Motion seconded by
Commissioner Vuksic and carried by a 7-0-0-1 vote, with Commissioner
McIntosh absent.
3. CASE NO: SA 12-177
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): BEST SIGNS, Attn John Cross,
1550 S. Gene Autry Drive, Palm Springs, CA 92264
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of a
new monument sign; Palm Desert Country Club.
LOCATION: 77-200 California Drive
ZONE: O.S.
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Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, said this was continued from last
year for a new monument sign at the clubhouse at Palm Desert
Country Club. At that meeting, there was some concern that this would
be used as an advertising device. What is currently being proposed is
the same design and shape; 6' in height, 13' from back of curb and out
of the right-of-way, with fixed letters.
The Commission reviewed and discussed the design. They had
concerns with the thickness of the stucco and recommended applying
a thick coat of stucco to conceal the joints.
ACTION:
Commissioner Colombini moved to approve subject to the applicant applying
a thick coat of stucco to conceal the joints. Motion seconded by
Commissioner Levin and carried by a 7-0-0-1 vote, with Commissioner
McIntosh absent.
4. CASE NO: MISC 13-410
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: RAY ROOKER, 49410 Brian Court,
La Quinta, CA 92253
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
exterior building modifications; JM Couture.
LOCATION: 73-300 Ell Paseo
ZONE: C-1, S.P.
Mr. Eric Ceja, Associate Planner, said this proposal is for an existing
building on El Paseo that accommodates up to five separate tenant
spaces. The applicant is trying to accommodate a new tenant, JM
Couture, a high-end women's apparel store on the western portion of
the building. The applicant wants to change the building by removing
the existing awnings and replacing the brick columns with three "half-
face" Roman columns and repainting the building a solid black with
gold trim and accents.
Commissioner Colombini asked what materials will be used for the
columns. MR. RAY ROOKER, architect, stated they are investigating
Styrofoam with a stucco finish and if that doesn't work they will find
something else. The Commission was concerned with the black color
on a south facing building. MR. ROOKER said they are trying to
update that building by removing the awnings and changing out the
windows. He described the changes that will be made to the building
and said that the owners have a philosophy in regards to the design
and colors proposed.
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MR. LES WALGREEN, founder, said the El Paseo store will be a
flagship store for their national chain. This store will be very unique
and different and feels El Paseo will be the ideal area for them. The
material would be stucco with black flat paint and he understands that
their air conditioning bills will be high. He mentioned that they will be a
big part of Fashion Week and wants to be in a perfect location where
the largest fashion show takes place.
Commissioner Clark was concerned with the logo sign breaking the
roofline right at the cornice. He asked if that could be integrated more
into the building without breaking the roofline. MR. JIM MULLINS,
founder, said it is a design they would like to keep. It is the logo that
will appear on all advertising product. MR. ROOKER was concerned
that if the logo was not up there the building would tend to continue on
to the buildings on both sides and tie the three together. With the
medallion up on top of the building, it will give this building some
identity. Commissioner Clark didn't think there were other buildings on
El Paseo with a logo like this on top of their building.
The Commission reviewed the plans and specifications of the
medallion and said that more details were needed. MR. ROOKER said
they haven't selected the style yet because they are working on the
structural detail. They are asking for feedback and hopefully approval
of the design concept so they can continue on. Commissioner
Colombini said he has used foam unsuccessfully in a similar situation
and to do this in foam and plaster over the top, it will get bulky and the
design will get lost; plus it doesn't last. MR. WALGREEN said he
appreciates the Commission's comments and asked if there was an
alternative product. Commissioner Colombini suggested pre-cast
concrete.
The Commission and the applicant discussed the recess and the video
screen which was 5' back from the window. MR. ROOKER said the
window wall is 24" from the front of the columns and the screens, 8'
high and 5' across, will be showing music and fashion that will be
portrayed inside the store.
Commissioner Lambell asked about the black paint. MR. MULLINS
said they looked at two different blacks; one a high gloss and the other
a satin finish and the gold paint is Ralph Lauren that will give it a gold
leaf texture. Commissioner Lambell said they were headed in the right
direction and feels they will certainly make a signature statement on El
Paseo. She recommended that they submit a color board with the high
gloss and satin finish black paint, as well as the gold paint. She also
recommended they submit a better drawing for the medallion and
complete drawings for the size of the JM Couture signage.
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Commissioner Levin asked what was happening on the sides and
asked if this was on the same plane as the building next door or were
they offset. MR. ROOKER said it is offset 42" to separate it from the
other buildings.
Commissioner Vuksic discussed the area below the top of the building,
referred to as the bulk head. He pointed out several stores on El
Paseo that have this style and said this will be different from the
buildings next to it, which are a part of this building. This building will
need something other than just a cornice change. He was concerned
with painting the cornice gold and the building black along the whole
west side because it's so huge. He felt this was more about creating a
sign than it was about the architecture. The building doesn't have
enough architectural merit to warrant painting it black and feels it will
set a very dangerous precedent.
Commissioner McAuliffe said the architectural drawing is better in
proportion than what they were seeing in the rendering. He doesn't
have a problem with the medallion and feels it is to scale relative to the
entire fagade. He understands that it is just a concept. He said the
column detail will have to be looked at carefully because they
shouldn't appear stuck on the front of the building. He agreed that the
applicant submit samples of the black paint. MR. WALGREEN said at
one point they thought about doing black granite tiles and asked if the
Commission would be open to that suggestion. Commissioner
McAuliffe said he wasn't opposed to it. It would be about the amount
and the refinement of it.
ACTION:
Commissioner Clark moved to continued Case MISC 13-410 subject to; 1)
restudy architectural context and detail; 2) submit color and materials board;
3) re-exam finish and colors; 4) restudy and provide details for signage and
medallion specifications; and 5) rendering and drawings to match. Motion
seconded by Commissioner McAuliffe and carried by a 7-0-0-1 vote, with
Commissioner McIntosh absent.
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B. Preliminary Plans:
1. CASE NO: PP/CUP 13-358
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PREST-VUKSIC ARCHITECTS, 44-
530 San Pablo, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval
of building addition and architectural changes; Venus de Fido.
LOCATION: 73-600 Alessandro
ZONE: R-3, (4)
Mr. Eric Ceja, Associate Planner, said this is an existing building
located on the corner of Alessandro Drive and San Carlos Avenue for
a combined human and pet spa concept. The applicant is seeking
approval for building additions and architectural changes to the
existing building. Site improvements are also part of the proposal and
include expansion of the existing parking lot and landscape
improvements. They are proposing 1,600 square feet of building
additions with the existing building being 17,600 square feet with an
established building height of 19'. Three towers are proposed on the
building, each used to identify a building entry. The tallest of the
proposed towers is 33'-5", the second largest is 28'-5", and the third is
26-Y. The applicant is also proposing a dome structure on top of the
roof, near the large entry tower, at a height of 26'-3". Overall, the
building and site changes greatly improve the appearance of the site
and the quality of the building. Based on landscape comments the
architect has revised the plan to include Italian Cypress to be in pots
and there are some other issues that don't directly affect the
architecture in regards to water quality management plan. Public
Works Department is still reviewing that plan and may have a potential
to impact the northeast corner of the site, but will not impact the
building architecture. In addition, staff did receive a call from a resident
just east of this property that had concerns with the overall height of
some of the towers. The resident understands that the actual building
height is not changing from 19', but there was some concern with the
tower height blocking their view of the mountains. Staff is supportive of
the applicant's request for improvements to the site and building and
recommends approval.
Commissioner Clark asked if there were any height exceptions being
requested. Mr. Ceja said the building height is established at 18' for
this zoning district, but this building has a building height exception at
19', which is one foot above. However, the towers are able to go the
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maximum height of the zone plus an additional 25'; the highest tower
of the three is 33'-5" in height.
MR. JOHN VUKSIC, architect with Prest-Vuksic Architect, said this is
a really tired building and now there are owners who are ready to give
it some much needed care who have the ability to complete this
project. They are looking forward to taking the next step and seeing it
constructed.
The Commission reviewed and discussed the plans with the architect
and the owners. Commissioner Lambell asked if the landscape plans
have been submitted to the Landscape Specialist. Mr. Ceja said that
there were several comments made on the first review and the
applicant has made revisions which are being reviewed by the
Landscape Specialist for final approval. MR. RON GREGORY, RGA
Landscape Architects, said they addressed each of the comments
from the Landscape Specialist and resubmitted the plans for review.
Commissioner Lambell moved for approval and Commissioner
Colombini made the second.
The Commission and MR. VUKSIC discussed traffic orientation, ADA,
and right-of-way issues. Ms. Christina Canales, Public Works indicated
that the applicant will work on lot line adjustments, the drainage, and
removal of improvements in the right-of-way.
Commissioner McAuliffe asked if ADA and parking requirements were
reviewed. Mr. Ceja said they comply with the new parking standards
that were revised in October and will be adding seven stalls to the site.
Chair Van Vliet called for the vote.
ACTION:
Commissioner Lambell moved for preliminary approval. Motion seconded by
Commissioner Colombini and carried by a 6-0-1-1 vote, with Commissioner
Vuksic abstaining and Commissioner McIntosh absent.
2. CASE NO: PP 13-279
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: COMSTOCK HOMES, 321 12TH
Street, Manhattan Beach, CA 90266
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval
of architecture and landscape plans for Lot 1; Villa Portofino.
LOCATION: 622-020-094 - Country Club Drive
ZONE: P.R. 5
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Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, said this was continued from a
previous meeting and presented plans and a PowerPoint of the
project. He discussed the changes that were recommended at the last
meeting. The applicant has added more landscape between the 12-
plexes to break up the alley way; the A/C units will be screened with
lattice and vines; trash cans will be required to be stored in the
garages for the single family homes, duplexes, and triplexes, and the
12-plexes will have trash bins. In regards to the architecture, the
furring on the garages will come out a foot; the rafter tails on the
Spanish style will carry around on all the elevations; the windows will
pop out 2"; and the wood fascia will be stuccoed. Staff is
recommending preliminary approval.
Commissioner Levin asked the applicant to take a look at the layout of
the A/C units because in some cases they are right outside the
neighbor's bedroom window.
Commissioner Lambell was concerned with the long alley way and not
having something of height along that area and hated to lose the trees.
MR. CHRIS HERMAN, landscape archtiect, stated there would be
trees and pointed on the plans where trees and palm trees would be
located to create some vertical. As you go up and down the street,
there will be a rhythm of up and down.
Mr. Swartz stated that he didn't address two of the conditions made at
the last meeting regarding the landscape around the gas and other
utilities and ground cover for the sewer easement on the south side
and recommended that these conditions remain and staff will work
with the landscape architect to make sure they are screened.
ACTION:
Commissioner Clark moved for preliminary approval subject to: 1) the
addition of shrubs along the northerly streets as indicated; and 2) staff will
continue to work with applicant to meet conditions as previously
recommended on November 26, 2013. Motion seconded by Commissioner
Levin and carried by a 7-0-0-1 vote, with Commissioner McIntosh absent.
C. Miscellaneous Items:
VI. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES UPDATE — Commissioner John Vuksic
December meeting not held as of this date.
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V'll. COMMENTS
None
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Upon a motion by Commissioner Lambell, second by Commissioner Levin, and a 7-
0-0-1 vote, with Commissioner McIntosh absent, the Architectural Review
Commission meeting was adjourned at 2:15 p.m.
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