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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2013-01-22 � � � � � �� �� CITY OF PALM DESERT � � �"' ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION • -• MINUTES January 22, 2013 I. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m. II. ROLL CALL Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Ronald Gregory, Chairman X 2 Chris Van Vliet X 1 1 John Vuksic X 1 1 Karel Lambell X 2 Allan Levin X 2 Ken Stendell X 2 Paul Clark X 2 Gene Colombini X 2 � Also Present Lauri Aylaian, Director Tony Bagato, Principal Planner Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner Shawn Kilpatrick, Code Officer Diane Hollinger, Landscape Specialist Christina Canales, Assistant Engineer Janine Judy, Recording Secretary Cance�led meetings III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS None IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: January 8, 2013 Action: Commissioner Lambell moved to approve the January 8, 2013 meeting minutes. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Levin and carried by a 6-0- 1-1 vote with Commissioner Van Vliet abstaining and Commissioner Vuksic absent. �rr ARCHITECTURAL R�irrEW COMMISSION � � . MINUTES January 22, 2013 � V. CASES: A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO: SA 13-18 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): AMERICAN AWNING, Attn: Jim Sadler, 44489 Town Center Way#D-475, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of awning change from black to red; Dawson Cole Fine Art. LOCATION: 73-199 #H, EI Paseo ZONE: C-1 Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, stated this request was for an awning color change from black to red. The frame, size, and location of the awning will not change. Staff recommended approval. The Commission reviewed and discussed the color change and made a motion to approve. � ACTION: Vice Chair Van Vliet moved to approve. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Lambell and carried by a 6-0-1-1 vote, with Chairman Gregory abstaining and Commissioner Vuksic absent. 2. CASE NO: MISC 12-130 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DALE GARDON DESIGN, 20885 N. 90 Place #100, Scottsdale, AZ 85255 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval for sign program for previously approved awnings; Shops on EI Paseo LOCATION: 73-130 EI Paseo ZONE: C-1 Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, stated what is being reviewed today is the sign program and an awning redesign which was previously approved. He pointed out that each suite could have a wall sign, an awning sign, a blade sign, and window signage as long as they don't take up more than 25% of the window. The applicant is also proposing for the main entrance an identification sign for the front � G:\PlanninglJanine Judy\Word Files\1 ARC\1Minutes\2013\130122min.docx Page 2 of 12 , ' ARCHITECTURAL REVI�,�,1 COMMISSION � MINUTES January 22, 2013 � facing EI Paseo and the rear facing President's Plaza. Staff is okay with the signs and their locations. The applicant didn't specify the colors and they will return to ARC with the proposed colors. Staff recommended no more than three colors typical of the current ordinance. He then presented the plans for Wolfgang Puck and stated they are the only business right now that is moving forward. They are proposing goosenecks above the sign. However, goosenecks are not a part of the sign program. Staff's initial reaction was that it's only for one business and if the building shows that it could be done. MR. DAVID FLECTHER, Chartwell Properties, said they wanted to add some individuality to the tenants so it doesn't look like a strip center. The Commission reviewed and discussed the signage plans and noted that they were just placeholders for positional signs. They asked if the signs could basicalty be any shape. Mr. Swartz said they could be any shape based on the tenants design. Staff is recommending approval of the sign program as well as the Wolfgang Puck sign. '� The Commission asked if Wolfgang Puck's sign would only have the gooseneck lighting or would it be internally lit as well. Mr. Swartz said they would only have gooseneck lighting and they are also proposing signage on the awnings. Commissioner Clark was concerned with letters flaking off on a few awnings on EI Paseo. He asked how this would be dealt with on these awnings. MR. FLETCHER said there are different ways to apply lettering to awnings. Some people do the iron-on transfers, which is probably the type the Commissioner was referring too. However, all the awnings they do are painted on so it doesn't have that problem. Mr. Swartz said if the applicant would add this as part of the sign program they will add this to the conditions. Ms. Lauri Aylaian, Community Development Director, said in the future if anyone sees problems with awnings they are to report it to the Code Enforcement division to investigate. Commissioner Colombini made a motion to approve as submitted subject to letters being painted or sewn on to the awnings. Seconded � G:\PlanninglJanineJudy\WordFiles\1ARC\1Minutes\2013\130122min.docx Page 3 of 12 ARCHITECTURAL R�fW COMMISSION �i . MINUTES January 22, 2013 � by Commissioner Clark. It was moved and seconded and Vice Chair Van Vliet asked for further discussion. The Commission discussed approval of individual signs. Mr. Swartz said approval of the sign program is approved by the Commission, but when they come in for an individual sign staff would approve at the counter. Mr. Tony Bagato, Principle Planner, said if they have a sign program they wouldn't have to come back to the Commission unless they ask for something outside of the sign program. Technically the sign program mimics the City's sign code. The sign code allows an applicant to have an awning, a wall sign, a blade sign, and window signs if they meet the perameters. The sign program is more to make sure that we know the wall signs are in keeping with the area, the square footage, and architecture of the building. ACTION: Commissioner Colombini moved to approve subject to letters shall be painted or sewn onto awnings. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Clark and carried by a 6-0-1-1 vote, with Chairman Gregory abstaining and Commissioner Vuksic absent. � 3. CASE NO: SA 13-19 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESSI: CHARTWELL PROPERTIES, 73655 EI Paseo #E, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of signage and awning; Studio 55 LOCATION: 73-655 EI Paseo #E ZONE: C-1 Mr. Tony Bagato, Principal Planner, stated that the awning program for this building was previously approved. Since that time, Studio 55, a new tenant, is proposing an awning that will match the awning program. Their sign is non-illuminated with individual letters. The awning matches what was previously approved it just wasn't shown on the corner building because initially they didn't anticipate awnings there. Based on the elevation of the building this is within the perameters of the building and staff is recommending approval. Mr. Fletcher indicated that it was on the corner building, just not on the very corner. The awning on the corner had a black awning that went � G:\Planning\JanineJudy\Word Files\1 ARC\1Minutes�2013\130122min.docx Page 4 of 12 , � ARCHITECTURAL REVI�,,,�,;' COMMISSION �„�,,i+ MINUTES January 22, 2013 � over the front door. Originally he was going to leave the awning blank with a tenant name on the sign band, but Studio 55 would like an awning over the front door. This sign is two rows high with "Studio" and "55" below it so it wouldn't fit well in the sign band. Mr. Bagato said the only comment he had was that the striped awning has "Studio 55" in it and it is hard to read. Staff recommends removing that. MR. FLETCHER said that wasn't supposed to be there and it will be removed. Vice Chair Van Vliet asked if that corner of the building was radius and would that pose a problem. Mr. Fletcher said the individual letters will be pin-mounted out so all the letters are floating and they will not be illuminated at this point. The tenant has a short term lease to see how he fits with the building. He said typically he requires their stores to have illuminated signage, but since it's a short term lease he is not requiring it at this time. The sign will switch over when the tenant agrees to a long term lease and it will return to this Commission for review. � ACTION: Commissioner Lambell moved to approve subject to: 1) deletion of lettering on striped awning; and 2) letters shall be painted onto awnings. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Colombini and carried by a 6-0-1-1 vote, with Chairman Gregory abstaining and Commissioner Vuksic absent. This case was reviewed last. Chairman Gregory left at 1:35 p.m.just prior to this case. 4. CASE NO. TTM 36404 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, Attn: Rudy Herrera, 73081 Fred Waring Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of construction documents for 72 units; Villa Portofino. LOCATION: 622-020-091; Country Club Drive & Portola Avenue ZONE: P.R. 5 Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, reminded the Commission that back in August 2012, the Commission approved 72 units for Villa �,,, Portofino; 6 buildings with 12 units in each. He said that Family G:\Planning\JanineJudy\Word Files\t ARC\1Minutes\2013\130122min.docx Page 5 of 12 ARCHITECTURAL R�EW COMMISSION � � ,� MINUTES January 22, 2013 � Development was the original applicant and now it is Comstock. One of the conditions from the previous meeting was that the plans return to the Commission for final approval. The second condition no longer applies since the new applicant is not proposing roof decks. The structural is not changing and the applicant just has to change the notations on the sheets. The applicant is also beefing up the legs on the tower elements by 2'. Staff is recommending approval. The Commission asked about the landscaping and Mr. Swartz stated the landscape is not a part of this approval. The applicant has to resubmit the landscape plans with changes made by our Landscape Specialist. Commissioner Levin asked if there was some question at the previous meeting regarding the number of ineters located on the property and asked how they would be screened. Mr. Swartz stated that would be a part of the landscape plan. Vice Chair Van Vliet stated there is actually only one issue here and that was the columns being a decent size and the applicant has addressed that. � ACTION: Commissioner Lambell moved to approve construction plans only. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Stendell and carried by a 6-0-0-2 vote, with Chairman Gregory and Commissioner Vuksic absent. B. Preliminary Plans: 1. CASE NO: MISC 12-324 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESSI: PARADISE T.D. & 5M5, P.O. Box 1171, Corona Del Mar, CA 92625. NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of tire store and state smog test center; Goodyear Tire Store. LOCATION: 34-700 Monterey Avenue ZONE: P.C. (3) FCOZ Mr. Tony Bagato, Principal Planner, stated this applicant was proposing a Goodyear Tire Store located on Monterey Avenue. He provided an aerial of Desert Gateway and said it was proposed for one of the vacant pads located just east of Monterey Avenue near the 99 � G:\Planning\JanineJudy\Word Files\1 ARC\1Minutes\2013\130122min.docx Page 6 of 12 • � ARCHITECTURAL REVI�,,,�,,,;J COMMISSION �+ MINUTES January 22, 2013 � Cent Store. He reminded the Commission that pre-existing pads for construction come to the Commission to make sure it matches the existing center. In reviewing the roof plans all the forms are four- sided. For a tire facility, this is as much variation as you are going to get architecturally and it is consistent with the buildings out there currently. He pointed out on the rendering that the roll up doors for the bays are actually metal even though they appear to be glass. The rest of the center has a lot of Spanish design with cornice details and the same color pallet. Staff is recommending approval. Commissioner Clark said this faces into a parking lot and not onto the street or residential area, however the large open doors can be aesthetically undesirable. He suggested a 4' wall or a large planter that could shield it. Mr. Bagato said this facility is internal to the parking lot and the back of the store fronts on the driveway. He understands that it could be an aesthetic concern, but from a code standpoint you are not allowed any service vehicle stations to be on the main road, and since this is in the freeway commercial overlay zone they are allowed in this area. Commissioner Stendell said he didn't see a set of doors for the '� mechanicals and asked where the electric meter box would be located. MR. TOM OLSEN, representative, stated the meter would be in the back of the store at the service entry and the service panel will be outside. Commissioner Stendell stated it would probably be an unsightly thing that will stick out on the elevations. MR. OLSEN said you probably won't see it because the road behind it is about four or five feet down. Commissioner Van Vliet suggested they screen the meter box. The Commission discussed the pop outs that come out about 18" to 24" to push the doors back on the left. However, on the right side the doors are flush with the stucco and they were afraid that it wouldn't look very good. The applicant said they could give it some depth and different shadow. Commissioner Levin asked about signage. � G:\Planning�.lanineJudy\Word Files\1 ARC\1Minutes\2013N30122min.docx Page 7 of 12 ARCHITECTURAL Ri�EW COMMISSION � � .• MINUTES January 22, 2013 � Mr. Bagato said signage was not proposed at this time. Individual signs don't necessarily have to come to the Commission unless there were concerns with the locations. The Commission discussed the proposed locations of the signs and it was suggested that the sign on the west elevation be brought down and centered vertically. The Commission discussed the boots on the columns for the towers and the applicant said they could do a color change. They also reviewed and discussed the arches and instead of being a sharp or slightly rounded edge the Commission suggested a slight corbel would look a lot better. Chairman Gregory pointed out that the layout for the landscape plan doesn't really conform to the city's shading program. The city requires a certain number of trees for every so many spaces; one tree typically for three spaces. He also had a concern with the decomposed granite (DG) shown in a few areas but not shown in others. MR. MANISTA said the whole back portion has existing DG, as well as on the side. They will be planting new trees into the existing areas. He said there's not a whole lot of landscaping left for them to do. � Chairman Gregory suggested they not use Sweet Acacia because it was very thorny and the use of the Mexican Fan Palms are typically unacceptable as a shade tree in the desert. He recommended five gallon shrubs instead of the one gallon shrubs shown. He pointed out that the trees listed were single trunk and said trees would do much better if they were multiple trunk. MR. OLSEN stated that the landscape plans have already been resubmitted to Landscape with corrections. Ms. Diane Hollinger said the plans in the packet were not the most recent plans. Commissioner Stendell asked if the sign program was separate from this approval or does the shopping center have a sign program. Mr. Bagato said they will have to match the center's sign program, and if not the applicant will have to come back to the Commission. Commissioner Stendell made a motion to preliminary approve subject to: 1) landscape plans shall return for additional review; and 2) utilities � G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word Files\1 ARC\1 Minutes\2013\130122min.docx Page 8 of 12 . � � ARCHITECTURAL REVI�,,J COMMISSION �+ MINUTES January 22, 2013 � shall be screened in a manner where they are not visible. Commissioner Lambell made the second. Commissioner Levin asked if they came to a conclusion about the bottom portion of the wainscot. Mr. Bagato said the top and the bottom of the boot is the same color but the band will be a different color. ACTION: Commissioner Stendell moved to preliminary approve subject to: 1) landscape plans shall return for additional review; and 2) utilities shall be screened in a manner where they are not visible. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Lambell and carried by a 7-0-0-1 vote, with Commissioner Vuksic absent. 2. CASE NO: MISC 13-24 APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): WEA PALM DESERT LP, c/o Westfield LLC, 11601 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1100, Los Angeles, CA 90025 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval �r of remodel; Westfield Palm Desert. LOCATION: 72-840 Highway 111 ZONE: P.C. (3) S.P. Mr. Tony Bagato, Principal Planner, said this was preliminary approval of a remodel for the WestField Mall. He indicated that this remodel will take place at the main entry where the old Macy's Swimwear was located. The portion of the mall closest to Highway 111 will be carved up into four new restaurant suites with a main entry into a rear tenant. This enhancement will create a change to the mall and bring in outdoor life with outdoor seating for the four restaurants with water features and enhanced landscaping. He mentioned that landscape will not be a part of this approval today. He talked to the applicant because there was some concern with the design and materials, as well as onsite light poles. Staff will look at this further. So the approval today will only be for the architectural remodel. Mr. Bagato said the entrance on the Highway 111 side will appear as the front of the tenant on the north side, which will be Dick's Sporting Goods (Dick's). However, as you walk into the mall, there will be a clear shot to Dick's, which is where the old Robinson's May used to �,,. be. For the applicant to bring in a major tenant on the north side, the G:\PlanningWanineJudy\Word Files\1 ARC\1Minutes\2013\130122min.docx Page 9 of 12 ARCHITECTURAL R�fW COMMISSION � � � . MINUTES January 22, 2013 � caveat was that the tenant receives exposure to Highway 111. From experience with EI Paseo, staff's in favor of creating some individual exposure to architecture for the tenant. This will create a whole new look to the mall by creating some individuality for these four restaurants. He then discussed the colors, materials, and signage for the remodel. He said other than the landscape, staff is in favor of the proposals. Commissioner Levin asked if they were reviewing the signage. Mr. Bagato said typically in the past the mall didn't have a lot of outdoor signs. On the plans, they are showing the general locations and placement of the signs where the restaurants would have them, but he didn't have the details. Commissioner Levin asked if all the signs on the plans were a part of the approval. Mr. Bagato said other than Dick's, the other signs shown are not here for approval and they appear on the plans as placeholders only. He moved on to the set of plans for Dick's Sporting Goods. As previously stated, Dick's is going on the north side where Robinson's May used to be. The building is about 80,000 square feet and they are taking � the whole top half portion with an entry at the bottom level. They will go with Dick's prototypical design and color pallet. Other than the landscape on the Highway 111 side, staff is in favor of this proposal. MR. GREG BERWIN, Westfield representative, said the idea here is relative to creating a front door for the center, which it doesn't have right now. He described the large court area in the front, the water feature, and shade structure. He explained this will serve as a place for people to gather and meet. The restaurants and the theaters will bring night life back to the center. Chairman Gregory pointed out that this was the first time the center has made a concerted effort to provide shade on the Highway 111 side. In his opinion, this is a serious improvement. The Commission discussed signage and wondered if the other anchors would want similar signage. MR. BERWIN said the other anchors, Macy's, Sear's, and J.C. Penny's, currently have pretty good exposure with their signs on the buildings. Currently there are no anchors on the north side where Dick's will be located, so Dick's will have their signage on the front facing Highway 111. They are not proposing additional signage. � G:\Planning\Janine Judy\Word Files\1 ARC11Minutes\2013\130122min.docx Page 10 of 12 , e r, . ` ARCHITECTURAL REVI�,,! COMMISSION � MINUTES January 22, 2013 � Commissioner Ciark felt the signage for Dick's jumps out and doesn't recall that the other anchors jump out in the same manner. MR. BERWIN said Dick's has their traditional signage. The others probably don't pop out as much or may not be illuminated as much. The signage for Dick's is what they typically have at other locations. Commissioner Lambell understands that Dick's needs the Highway 111 exposure; however the fonts being used on the other signs are fairly smaller than Dick's. She suggested that this needs to be a more cohesive sign program. Chairman Gregory was curious how Dick's conforms to the standard sign ordinance. The way the background is painted it all becomes one big sign and may be too large to pass the sign ordinance. MR. BERWIN said Dick's was looking in the desert for a while and they see the benefit of being at a mall with year round activities. He said Dick's would have easily gone in the front but they didn't want to box up the front so they created a front door. '�r MR. SHELLER informed the Commission that Dick's agreed to go on the north side of the center if they get their prototypical sign on that side. It is a very important part of the deal that it appears like an entrance. The Commission discussed the landscape and it was mentioned that there will be two sets of landscape; front and back. Commissioner Lambell asked if what was being approved today was the design concept. Mr. Bagato said it was basically the forms and materials. Then they will move on to conceptual drawings unless the Commission wants to see more details. If not, then that is what they will move forward with. Commissioner Lambell made a motion to preliminary approve subject to: 1) the exclusion of landscaping on the south side; and 2) signage not included in approval. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Colombini. Chairman Gregory asked if there were any further comments. Commissioner Stendell asked if they were planning on connecting the movie theatres to the front of the building. � G:\Planning\JanineJudy\WordFiles\1ARC\1Minutes\2013\130122min.docx Page 11 of 12 • ; ARCHITECTURAL Rf�f_W COMMISSION � ' • ,� MINUTES January 22, 2013 � MR. BERWIN answered yes. However, it is not a part of this proposal. They are looking at opening it up using the same path of travel like it used to be when the ice rink was there. ACTION: Commissioner Lambell moved to preliminary approve subject to: 1) the exclusion of landscaping on the south side; and 2) signage not included in approval. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Colombini and carried by a 7-0-0-1 vote, with Commissioner Vuksic absent. C. Miscellaneous Items: None VI. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES UPDATE Commissioner Vuksic was not in attendance. VII. COMMENTS Commission discussed the condition of lettering on a couple of the awnings located on EI Paseo. � VIII. �ADJOURNMENT Upon a motion by Commissioner Stendell, second by Commissioner Levin, and a 6- 0-0-2 vote, with Chairman Gregory and Commissioner Vuksic absent, the Architectural Review Commission meeting was adjourned at 1:40 p.m. T� �� TONY GATO, PRINCIPAL PLANNER SECRETARY INE DY RECORDING SECRETARY � G:\Planning\JanineJudy\Word Files\1 ARC\1Minutes\2013\13D122min.docx Page 12 of 12