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CITY OF PALM DESERT
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION
• MINUTES
June 11, 2013
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Chris Van Vliet, Chair X 9 1
Karel Lambell, Vice Chair X 10
John Vuksic X 9 1
Allan Levin X 9 1
Paul Clark X 9 1
Gene Colombini X 10
Michael McAuliffe X 7
Jim McIntosh X 7
Also Present
Lauri Aylaian, Director
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner
Pedro Rodriquez, Senior Code Officer
Diane Hollinger, Landscape Specialist
Spencer Knight, Landscape Manager
Christina Canales, Assistant Engineer
Janine Judy, Recording Secretary
Cancelled meetings: 05/28/13
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
MR. FRANK TAYLOR, resident of Palm Desert Country Club, (PDCC)
respectfully suggested that the City of Palm Desert hold Palm Desert Country
Club to the rest of Palm Desert's high standards. When they look at projects in
the future, especially in the PDCC area, continue to look at them as one city and
continue to enhance and improve the community as a whole.
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IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: May 14, 2013
Action:
Commissioner Levin moved to approve the May 14, 2013 meeting
minutes. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Lambell and carried by
an 8-0.
V. CASES:
A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO: MISC 10-238
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SHERRY SIDNEY, 915 West
Crescent Drive, Palm Springs, CA 92262.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
an exterior color change; Sidney Properties.
LOCATION: 73-760 to 73-790 El Paseo
ZONE: C-1, S-P
Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, stated this color change was
continued from two prior meetings. At each of those meetings, the
applicant presented two different color changes and the
Commission requested the applicant provide a photo simulation.
Both times the applicant chose not to provide the photo simulations.
The applicant has since hired an architect and is now requesting
two different colors, along with a photo simulation. Mr. Swartz
presented the photo simulation and pointed out where the colors
will be applied. Staff is looking for comments from the Commission.
This Commission reviewed and discussed the building and the
placement of colors. Staff informed the Commission that signage
and awning details will come back for review and approval.
ACTION:
Commissioner Vuksic moved to approve the new exterior colors and
awning color. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Colombini and
carried by an 8-0 vote.
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2. CASE NO: MISC 13-160
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): MICHAEL WEST, 400 Galleria
Officentre, Suite 555, Southfield, MI 48034.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
landscape plans, awnings, trellises, site furnishings, and landscape
lighting; The Gardens.
LOCATION: 73-545 Ell Paseo
ZONE: C-1, S-P
Ms. Lauri Aylaian, Director of Community Development presented
the project and summarized the staff report. Acceptance of the
staff recommendation will grant approval of an atypical landscape
design concept. The design would deviate from City design
standards in the interior of the project, but comply with spacing and
materials standards on the street frontages. The project proposed
involves a re-invention of the center court area, which is interior to
The Gardens on El Paseo, by adding a pedestrian "bridge" with
informal seating and relaxing areas, removing two of the existing
trellis structures and refinishing the others, reconfiguring the stage
area, removing two fountains and refurbishing two others, replacing
the awning system over two escalators, and adding new landscape
lighting, benches and seating, trash receptacles, ash urns, and
miscellaneous site furnishings throughout the complex.
The most significant work to be done comprises the project
landscaping. The project seeks to remove all overgrown and poorly
maintained plant material, and replace it with more appropriate
material in a more sustainable environment. The project will focus
on the El Paseo frontage and the interior courtyard, but will also
address the Larkspur, Shadow Mountain, and San Pablo frontages.
Most of the existing planting beds, turf, plant material, decomposed
granite (DG) paths, irrigation, and landscape lighting will be
removed from the interior of the project and the street frontage
surrounding the development. Date palms and selected existing
trees will remain. New landscape materials will be installed to
complement the architecture and site furnishings, while allowing for
clear views of tenant signage, much of which is now obscured by
plant material. The current landscape materials have grown to a
point where they obscure the retailers, despite attempts to prune,
thin, and otherwise constrain the vegetative growth. The
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landscaping is now an impediment to the success of the
businesses, which are an important part of Palm Desert's retail
portfolio. The Taubman Company, new owners of The Gardens,
has identified a plan to remedy this situation. The project under
consideration will change the ambiance of The Gardens to be
crisper, more polished, and more sophisticated. It will use
materials, finishes, textures, and plant arrangements that are more
formal than the current ones. Staff recommends approval of this
landscape renovation project subject to such conditions as are
enumerated by Public Works.
MR. DARRYL HERRING, Taubman Company, stated they acquired
this property in 2011 and are taking a great interest in this asset.
This project is appropriate and timely and with the Commission's
approval they stand ready to make a very significant upgrade in this
property.
MR. RANDY METZ, Landscape Architect, Grissim, Metz, Andreise
Associates, praised the amount of interaction with the city staff.
There are unique things they are trying to do here that are not so
common, but the input from staff has been very valuable. It is
important from a retail standpoint to retain tenants and attract new
tenants; they want to put the retail fresh back. A PowerPoint
presentation of the project pointed out what they will be doing for
The Gardens. The landscaping will be more desert appropriate and
more sustainable with water usage significantly less than current
usage. He described all the changes to the outdoor court area
including the seating areas, changes to trellises and fountains, and
the types of landscape and lighting that will be utilized. They are
hoping that most of these materials are left to grow to their natural
forms especially on the perimeter.
The Commission and the applicant discussed the issue of securing
the outdoor seating. The applicant replied that they have done a lot
of these outdoor spaces in retail projects and have found that the
stuff doesn't walk away. MR. BOB FLIDAY, Manager of The
Gardens, said they have done something similar to this at the El
Paseo Village and he doesn't think it would ever be necessary to
remove the furniture itself, but if need be they can always remove
them. He pointed out they also have 24-hour security.
Commissioner Lambell said it will be significant whatever they
choose to anchor it with and the Commission would want to know
what that would be. It goes along with the whole look of the project.
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The Commission and the applicants discussed the possibility of
identifying the plant species and thought it would be of some value
to the public. The applicants said they will take that into
consideration.
The Commission discussed the 2nd floor parking structure with the
trellises and planters. MR. METZ said the landscaping has been
replanted but the planters are fiberglass which absorbs the heat.
They do have some materials there now that seem to be working.
One of the things being considered is removing the planters and
putting in a larger shade structure.
Commissioner Clark asked if the water usage issues have been
discussed with the Coachella Valley Water District (CVWD). MR.
METZ said they have submitted a package for their review and he
feels confident that they will get approval. Their interaction with
CVWD has been positive since they will be reducing the amount of
water usage.
The Commission and the applicant discussed the interior having a
more formal arrangement of desert landscaping and the exterior
having an organic concept, matching the city standards. MR.
METZ said the grand court area is more like a combination of that.
Some of it is a little more architecturally arranged and some of it is
not. It is a blending of those two ideas within this space.
Commissioner McAuliffe discussed the re-patterning along El
Paseo and asked the applicants to be mindful of how the pavers
are laid out and how it is integrated. The words he keeps hearing
over and over again are high-end, luxury, artful, uncommon, and he
thinks they are spot on with all of those descriptions. However, he
was a little surprised to see the biggest plant choice in the heart of
the whole project was Lantana. It is not something that he would
ever associate with high-end luxury. The way it grows is
unstructured and the way it gets trimmed makes it really look awful.
He didn't know how this would be maintained and thought if it is
allowed to grow out and trail it might be more successful. There are
countless examples around the valley where it was planted
adjacent to the sidewalk and it grew over and was trimmed
incorrectly. MR. METZ said they intend to let the Lantana do its
natural thing and not cut the material on this project. If it starts to
get too thick, they will pull it out and replant. They are aware of this
concern and it will all be a part of the maintenance. Commissioner
McAuliffe said the other specimen choices are thoughtful, sculpted,
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and artful and Lantana is not the plant material to be featured. He
also mentioned the Bluebells in the planter in the front walk, and
asked how they typically grow. MR. METZ said in that area it is
very restricted and only a few feet wide and they desire to have a
softening in that edge. They are looking for a fuzziness to occur
along that edge of the walk. If it gets to a point where it is no longer
attractive, they will replace it. Commissioner McAuliffe suggested
taking a look at Sunnylands in Rancho Mirage. It is very structured,
organized and upscale.
Commissioner Van Vliet came back to the parking structure and
said it has always been something that has been less than
attractive to the city and the landscaping has never been able to
screen it. Hopefully the oak trees going in will help screen it. MR.
METZ said putting the trees in will look fantastic for years and years
to come and will enhance that whole edge.
ACTION:
Commissioner Lambell moved to approve subject to re-evaluating the use
of Lantana and Bluebells in areas designated. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner Levin and carried by a 7-0-1-0 vote, with Commissioner
Vuksic abstaining.
3. CASE NO: MISC 13-191
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DEL TACO, P.O. Box 11527,
Palm Desert, CA 92255
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of
exterior paint colors; Del Taco
LOCATION: 74-617 Highway 111
ZONE: C-1, S.P.
Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, presented the color change
proposal for Del Taco. He presented the color pallet and said the
Del Taco Corporation has approved new colors. Mr. Swartz said
the colors were desert appropriate and staff is recommending
approval.
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The Commission reviewed the color placement on the building.
Commissioner Vuksic liked the colors but was concerned with
approving them since he couldn't tell what it would look like.
MR. JERRY WALKER, franchise owner, said these colors have
already been applied to the Monterey store. He said he's not
changing the tile like they have done in some locations and is trying
to stay with earth tones to keep it natural. Commissioner Vuksic
again said he liked the colors but it was hard to look at the photos
provided and picture what it would look like.
MR. WALKER asked the Commission if they could give him a
minute so he could retrieve a photo. The Commission agreed and
in the meantime, Mr. Swartz pulled up a Del Taco store on the
internet for an example of the new colors. The Commission
reviewed that store.
The Commission suggested that the applicant submit a photo
simulation for this location with the new colors. Commissioner
Clark asked the applicant if he could handle a two-week
continuance.
MR. WALKER said they are starting the project this coming
Sunday, June 16. He also indicated that they are doing a complete
renovation on the inside.
Mr. Swartz suggested that the applicant obtain a photo simulation
and submit it to staff to be forwarded to the Commission for
comments.
Mr. Bagato said the Commission will have to grant preliminary
approval of the colors today based on review of a photo simulation.
If the Commission has concerns, then it will have to return to the
next meeting. The Commission discussed the colors and their
placement.
Commissioner Clark made a motion to approve colors, with the
exception of the green, subject to review and approval by staff.
There was no second and the motion died.
The Commission continued discussing the colors and the approval
process. Mr. Bagato said if the Commissioners were not
comfortable with not seeing it on the building, then it should be
continued.
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The Commission had some concerns with the amount of red on the
building. In the past, this Commission has approved colors but
reserved the right to review it on site so that if the red was too much
then the applicant would need to revisit that element. Mr. Swartz
asked the applicant if he was willing to paint it with the approved
colors and if upon visiting the site the Commission felt it was too
much red, the applicant would have to use another color on the red
in certain areas. The applicant did not respond.
The Commission once again reviewed the photo of another Del
Taco store and discussed the placement of the colors.
Commissioner Clark said there is a certain principal of not
approving something without seeing the whole building, but
personally thought the colors were okay. For the record, he stated
this was not the preferred way of approving projects, but for the
urgency of the applicant he recommends approval. Commissioner
Lambell explained to the applicant that this Commission normally
receives the information prior to the meeting and they could have
gone by another store that had already been painted to review the
colors.
Commissioner Clark made a motion to approve as submitted,
subject to review and approval by staff. Commissioner Lambell
made the second. Chair Van Vliet asked if there were further
comments.
Commissioner Vuksic again stated that he was not comfortable with
approving the colors without knowing what it would look like.
Commissioner Clark amended his motion to exclude the color
green. Commissioner Lambell agreed to the amendment.
ACTION:
Commissioner Clark moved to approve the exterior colors with the
exception of green, subject to review and approval by staff. Motion was
seconded by Commissioner Lambell and carried by a 6-1-0-1 vote with
Commissioner Vuksic voting NO and Commissioner McIntosh absent.
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B. Preliminary Plans:
1, CASE NO: MISC 13-182
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): GHA COMMUNITIES /
KNIGHTSWOOD VENTURES, LLC, 30-875 Date Palm Drive,
Suite C, Cathedral City, CA 92234
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary
approval of 15 single family homes on Cosmopolitan Lane.
LOCATION: Cosmopolitan Lane
ZONE: P.R-5
Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, presented preliminary plans
for 15 single family homes called the Signature Series. There are
two plans and the lot sizes range from 9,000 sq. ft. to 13,000 sq. ft.
Each plan has four different designs and the colors are pretty
standard. A color scheme was passed around. Setbacks, lot
coverage, and the height meet the development standards for the
tentative tract map. The materials are painted stucco, concrete, tile
roofing, and 2 x 4 stucco pop-out frames on the windows. Some of
the homes have awnings and courtyards. The applicant will be
doing the landscape along Sheppard Lane and at the main entry
they are proposing a block wall. He discussed the landscape
material for each plan. Staff is recommending approval subject to
conditions submitted by Public Works regarding WQMP.
The Commission discussed the materials used between the
sidewalk and the walls. MR. CHUCK SHEPARDSON, HSA Design
Group, said they will re-establish a previously approved plan that
was done for Sheppard Lane back in 2005. They will change the
pallet up a little, but the irrigation is already out there. The HOA will
maintain this area. Commissioner Levin asked about the ends of
the property line walls. He recalled that the Commission required
pilasters on the end rather than just looking at the end of a 6" block.
MR. MARIO GONZALES, GHA Communities, said it was GHA's
discretion to do that and they used a slump stone wall. It was
stacked and painted to match the house on every individual wall
and a cap was added to give it a little detail.
Commissioner Vuksic had some minor concerns with Plan 1 on
floor plan 1 of 1. He mentioned the thin walls on the garage door
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and suggested the wall be thicker just to create the reveal. On the
main plan, he suggested making the door leading to the junior
master suite/den option bedroom 4" thicker. He also mentioned the
eaves. When the eaves wrap around the side of the house they
end really abruptly. He feels those returns need to be farther back
than what is shown and suggested going back 15'.
MR. GONZALES said they have been very successful with the
current 16 lots they have sold off for University and are now moving
up to these 15 lots. These lots are a step up because these lots
are larger and their intention is to kick up the spec in their
elevations. He and the Commission discussed the returns on the
eaves, the screening of utilities, and trash containers, and the
opportunity for solar.
ACTION:
Commissioner Lambell moved to preliminary approve the plans submitted
with changes to Floor Plan 1: 1) thicken roof fascia; 2) thicken recess on
garage door; 3) increase the depth of doors on Junior Master Suite/Den; 4)
eaves shall return 15'; and 5) final landscape plans and conditions by Public
Works shall be reviewed and approved. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner Levin and carried by a 7-0-0-1 vote with Commissioner
McIntosh absent.
C. Miscellaneous Items:
None
V1. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES UPDATE — Commissioner John Vuksic
Commissioner Vuksic reported on the Art in Public Places meeting held on May
15, 2013. City Council renewed the contract for the maintenance of all artwork.
Four additional artists have been added to the registry. The Community Gallery
will start its summer exhibits July 1. The landscape painting workshop in the
park was a big success. The film series ended with an overall attendance of
about 800 people. AIPP has only received four artist applicants for the painting
of traffic boxes along Fred Waring, so the deadline was extended and will be
discussed at the next meeting.
Vil. COMMENTS
The Commission asked for an update on Case No. MISC 13-32; David Narz. Mr.
Swartz stated that City Council approved the carport subject to beefing up the
columns and concealing all hardware.
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VI11. ADJOURNMENT
Upon a motion by Commissioner Clark, second by Commissioner Lambell, and a
7-0-0-1 vote, with Commissioner McIntosh absent, the Architectural Review
Commission meeting was adjourned at 2:45 p.m.
TONY BAGATO, PRINCIPAL PLANNER
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