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October 22, 2013
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Chris Van Vliet, Chair X 16 2
Karel Lambell, Vice Chair X 17 1
John Vuksic X 16 2
Allan Levin X 17 1
Paul Clark X 17 1
Gene Colombini X 18
Michael McAuliffe X 14 1
Jim McIntosh X 14 1
Also Present
Lauri Aylaian, Director
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner
Eric Ceja, Associate Planner
Pedro Rodriquez, Senior Code Officer
Janine Judy, Recording Secretary
Cancelled meetings: 05/28/13, 10/08/13
111111. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: September 10, 2013 & September 24, 2013
Action:
Commissioner Levin moved to approve the September 10, 2013 and
September 24, 2013 meeting minutes. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner Vuksic and carried by a 7-0-0-1 vote, with Commissioner
Lambell absent.
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IV. CASES:
A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO: MISC 13-306
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): JOHN JAUREQUI, 43-760
Warner Trail, Palm Desert, CA, 92260.
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Request final
approval of a color change.
LOCATION: 43-760 Warner Trail
ZONE: R-1, 9000
Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, presented a color change that
had previously been presented to the Commission and continued to
allow the applicant to choose different colors. The applicant wants
to stay with the current color palette and recently has painted over
some of the green elements with brown, which is another one of his
palette colors. At this point, that is the only change that has
occurred since the last meeting. Mr. Swartz presented photos of the
house with the revised colors and stated the applicant has
submitted several letters from his neighbors indicating their
approval of the colors.
Commissioner Vuksic pointed out that at the previous meeting, the
Commission discussed that a strong color would need to be an
accent color because they thought the green color may be too
intense.
MR. JOHN JAUREQUI, applicant, made reference to a previous
comment about setting a precedence and presented photos of
other homes in Palm Desert that has a mixture of colors. Most of
these photos were taken in his neighborhood along with
commercial buildings. He also took photos of non-earth tone colors
in his neighborhood. He made reference to ordinance 25.56.520 -
Exterior Modifications. The Commission reviewed one of the
applicant's photos of a commercial building that had gold and green
colors. They explained that this building also came to this
Commission as a code enforcement case and the approval was
quite a struggle because the owner had to come back to this
Commission a couple of times before the colors were toned down.
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Commissioner Vuksic said commercial buildings are different from
houses and when buildings tend to have stronger architecture you
can pull off aggressive colors, but it's harder to do that successfully
in developments that are similar to each other.
MR. JAUREQUI pointed out that in newer neighborhoods you do
find diverse colors. His neighborhood is older with outdated colors
and felt that a little diversity is not a negative thing. If anything it's a
change of scenery. He has received overwhelming support from his
neighbors who thinks the house looks nice, especially after he
added more of the brown color.
Commissioner Vuksic thought it was important that the Commission
use their own judgment and act as a body that protects situations
when something is introduced where a lot of neighbors would rather
not like to see a house painted so aggressively. MR. JAUREQUI
said it was a possibility, but it wasn't fair to assume that is what the
neighbors really feel. Commissioner Vuksic expressed again that to
have such a strong color palette a house needs to have
architecture that is strong enough to pull it off, but he didn't see it
here.
Commissioner Clark asked if landscape would help moderate or
mitigate the issue. Chair Van Vliet said landscape may help but
they shouldn't rely on landscape. The Commission continued to
discuss the green color and saturation issues.
MR. FRANK TAYLOR, a resident of Palm Desert Country Club,
said this house went from white to green and brown and felt it was
an aggressive change. There are a lot of older homes in this area
that have been repainted that probably didn't go through the
approval process. He felt this body was a good place to look at
these things as they come up. He asked if this house color was in
south Palm Desert would this color be allowed.
Mr. Swartz stated that if the Commission were to deny this today,
the applicant would have 15 days to appeal their decision to the
City Council or the Commission can continue the case to allow the
applicant to choose a different shade of green.
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Commissioner Vuksic said the green is definitely an issue and it
just may be the way the colors are composed. MR. JAUREQUI said
he didn't want to change the colors and mentioned that at this time
he was not able to continue with his landscape plans because he is
a Federal employee and has not received a check in over a month.
He pointed out that the landscaping is a priority for him because he
is concerned with his house having a beautiful appearance.
ACTION:
Commissioner Vuksic moved to deny Case MISC 13-306 based on the
green color. Motion was seconded by Commission Colombini and carried
by a 7-0-0-1 vote, with Commissioner Lambell absent.
2. CASE NO: MISC 13-319
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): PREST-VUKSIC ARCHITECTS,
44-530 San Pablo, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
a building remodel.
LOCATION: 73-811 El Paseo
ZONE: C-1, S.P.
Commissioner Vuksic recused himself from this project and left the conference
room.
Mr. Eric Ceja, Associate Planner, presented the applicant's request
for facade changes, building color change, parking and landscape
improvements for an existing vacant building on El Paseo. He
presented a materials board for the Commission's review and
summarized the staff report. Overall, the facade changes
incorporated into the building update the current design to better
match higher-end retail stores along El Paseo. Changes to the
existing rear parking lot also compliment the building's facade
changes. Staff is supportive of the requested architectural changes
and recommends that the Commission approve the facade
updates. He recommended that the final designs of the awnings
and shade structure come back at a later date with further details
provided to the Commission for review and approval. He then
presented a slideshow presentation for the Commission's review.
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MR. DAVID PREST, Prest-Vuksic Architects, said they located the
shade structure on the south side occupying 10 spaces. This
structure will be in the middle of the parking lot and not against the
building. They may change the design a little but it will be the same
quality as presented today. Mr. Bagato said staff was concerned
because the construction details were not provided and they have
asked the applicant to return with that information. MR. PREST said
this will come back during the construction document stage. He
described the material of the structure as steel with canvas shade
cloth and indirect lighting inside.
Chair Van Vliet asked where the mechanical equipment will be
located on the building. MR. PREST said all the mechanical
equipment is already there and hidden behind a pretty big parapet
wall. The building will be repainted white, the window frames will be
brushed stainless steel, and the awnings will be purple as an
accent color. They proposed a couple different plans to raise the
sidewalk out front because as you walk in the main entry from El
Paseo you actually step up two steps to get to the finished floor of
the building, but none of these plans were accepted by Public
Works or the Planning Department. All the changes in grade will
happen inside the building.
Commissioner McIntosh asked about the standing seam metal roof
and MR. PREST said it will be a metal color with a galvanized look.
Commissioner McAuliffe asked about the ADA parking in the back.
MR.PREST explained that when covered parking is provided, one
of those spaces have be handicap so they moved one of the
handicap spots currently in the lot to the covered parking structure.
They do not have any ADA issues with that.
Commissioner Colombini asked if they will have lighting on the
structure. MR. PREST said they will add sconces on the wall along
with some in-ground lighting. They are also re-landscaping the
entire area, but the four palm trees out front will remain.
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Commissioner Levin asked staff if there were any issues with the
tree requirement for parking by putting in the shade structure. Mr.
Bagato said the shade structure can be used in lieu of trees, but
landscaping around the building and parking is required.
Commissioner Clark asked if the Commission was approving the
landscape plan and Mr. Ceja said the Landscape Specialist gave
preliminary approval and will return to her for final approval.
ACTION:
Commissioner Colombini moved to approve as presented subject to
shade structure and awnings returning to the Architectural Review
Commission for review and approval. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner Clark and carried by a 6-0-0-2 vote, with Commissioners
Lambell and Vuksic absent.
3. CASE NO: MISC 13-337
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): COUNTRY CLUB AWNINGS,
74885 Joni Drive #6, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval to
install an awning above the store entrance; Clementine.
LOCATION: 72-990 El Paseo
ZONE: P.C. (3)
Mr. Eric Ceja, Associate Planner, presented a request for an
awning over the main entrance for Clementine Gourmet
Marketplace and Cafe. The applicant is proposing a striped design
to compliment their branding. There is no signage proposed for the
awning. Staff has no concerns with the awnings and how it relates
to the building and is recommending approval.
The Commission reviewed the plans and felt the color mix is
attractive and the striping will make it more interesting and lively.
ACTION:
Commissioner Levin moved to approve. Motion seconded by Commissioner
Clark and carried by a 7-0-0-1 vote, with Commissioner Lambell absent.
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4. CASE NO: MISC 11-323
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): STARBUCKS COFFEE
COMPANY, Attn: Jon Alpert, 17700 Newhope Avenue, Suite 200,
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of
revisions to previous approved awning; Starbucks.
LOCATION: 73-520 Ell Paseo
ZONE: C-1, S.P.
Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, presented a request for
revisions to a previously approved awning for Starbucks. A part of
the original approval was to remove the hedges along San Pablo to
make room for outdoor patio seating, however they are no longer
proposing those changes and the landscaping will remain the
same. They are now proposing to put black metal awnings over the
windows along El Paseo and San Pablo. Signage will come back
to the Commission and is not a part of the approval. Staff is
recommending approval.
The Commission asked about the signage and MS. CANDICE
DOYLE, Architects Orange, pointed out that the signage on the
entry door will be individual letters and the logo disc will be updated
with the new siren logo minus the lettering.
Commissioner Vuksic asked the applicant if they were no longer
planning on having the seating on the San Pablo side. MS. DOYLE
said that was correct but they will continue with the fenced-in patio
area along El Paseo.
Commissioner Colombini was concerned with how the lettering
would come together on the "Starbucks Coffee" signage that sticks
up above the canopy and said there were no details on how they
would be mounted to the C-channel. MS. DOYLE said the lettering
would be internally lit behind the C-channel so the lettering wouldn't
be visible. The Commission suggested they bring the details back
for staff approval.
The Commission discussed the amount of seating outside and Mr.
Bagato said they are limited to the amount of seating outside
because of the Conditional Use Permit (CUP). They originally had
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more outdoor seating, but have now made the interior bigger and
will transfer some of the tables and chairs inside. They can amend
the CUP later if they want more seating.
ACTION:
Commissioner Vuksic moved to approve subject to signage details
returning to staff for review and approval. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner Levin and carried by a 7-0-0-1 vote, with Commissioner
Lambell absent.
5. CASE NO: MISC RV 13-298
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DOUGLAS AUER, 43-005
Connecticut Street, Palm Desert, CA 92211
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of
sailboat stored in the front yard.
LOCATION: 43-005 Connecticut Street
ZONE: R-1
Commissioner Clark recused himself from this project and left the conference
room.
Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, presented a request for
approval to store a sailboat in a front yard carport. About three
years ago, the City Council approved a new Recreation Vehicle
ordinance which includes campers, camping trailers, travel trailers,
air craft, motor homes, utility trailers, and watercraft. This sailboat is
currently parked in a side-entry carport. At the present time, it is
not visible from the front view because of the shrubbery, but it can
be seen along the back. Staff has talked with the applicant and
recommended enclosing the carport, but the applicant is proposing
to screen it with shrubbery or a hedge along the back. Mr. Swartz
presented photos of the carport for the Commission's review and
stated this was advertised to the applicant's neighbors and staff has
not received any comments in favor or opposition to. There was a
complaint about the sailboat and Code Enforcement cited the
applicant. Staff is recommending that the applicant enclose the
carport or work with staff on screening alternatives.
Commissioner Levin pointed out that the ordinance totally forbids
RVs in front of the house. Commissioner Vuksic said the ordinance
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states that it has to be 100% screened. Mr. Swartz said that is why
staff is recommending that this carport be enclosed.
MR. DOUGLAS AUER, applicant, stated that the boat has been in
his carport for about 25 years and didn't think it was fair that he is
no longer allowed to store it there.
MR. FRANK TAYLOR, resident of Palm Desert County Club, stated
he was on the Recreation Vehicle Committee a couple of years ago
and when the ordinance was put into effect it didn't allow for any
RVs in the front of the house. They were allowed on the sides or
the rear of the house if there was space there along with screening.
People have been trying to put boats under carports for a long time
and the direction they have been given is that they have to enclose
the carports, which then becomes a garage. Again he stated that
nothing is allowed in front of the house under the new ordinance.
Commissioner Vuksic said the spirit of the ordinance is to keep
people from storing RVs in front of their house. He was concerned
because there are a lot of carports out there and now the
Commission is back to deciding what is substantially screened;
which was a nightmare for many years. The ordinance is clear not
to store large things in front of houses.
Chair Van Vliet asked staff for their technical definition. Ms. Lauri
Aylaian, Community Development Director, said this carport is
original to the structure and not added on and would be considered
part of the structure. However, she was not comfortable with the
landscape solution since landscape solutions have failed time and
again to provide adequate screening for situations like this. The
City doesn't want to see stuff junking up the front of houses and if
we can't see it because it's inside the structure then she's
comfortable with that. That is something that would be defensible
from a code enforcement standpoint. Mr. Pedro Rodriguez, Code
Enforcement Supervisor, said the ordinance states that if a carport
is enclosed to meet the conformity of the building code and is a
lawful structure it would no longer be a code violation.
Commissioner Colombini wanted clarification of the ordinance since
this boat has been stored there for at least 25 years and now it's
illegal for it to be stored there. Mr. Bagato said the last revision to
the ordinance said that any RVs stored in a carport had one year to
come into compliance. The Commission discussed the ordinance,
landscaping solutions, and enclosing the carport.
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Commissioner Vuksic made a motion that the boat cannot be
stored in the carport unless applicant builds a garage to store the
boat. Commissioner McIntosh made the second. Chair Van Wet
asked for further comments.
Chair Van Viet said the only way to meet the ordinance would be to
convert the carport into a garage or to substantially screen it. The
Commission and staff discussed the terminology for substantial
screening versus 100% screening which is part of the new
ordinance. Mr. Bagato read the ordinance and said, evidence must
be submitted illustrating that there is an exceptional or
extraordinary circumstance or conditions applicable to the property
involved or intended for use of the property that do not apply
generally to other properties in the same zone. Commissioner
Levin asked if the applicant could appeal this or is it something that
City Council can override. Mr. Bagato said the applicant can appeal
to City Council.
The Commission continued to discuss the ordinance. Mr. Bagato
said if this was in front of the carport, it would be within the setback
and it wouldn't be allowed. However, the carport is in the front of
the house and within the setback; it is within the building envelope.
It may be a good thing to present to City Council to give them an
opportunity to clarify some things within the code.
Commissioner McIntosh asked Commissioner Vuksic if his motion
still stands. Commissioner Vuksic said yes and expressed that this
doesn't meet the spirit of the ordinance. Chair Van Vliet reminded
the Commission that there was a motion and a second on the floor
to convert the carport into a garage and asked for additional
comments.
Commissioner McAuliffe stated he didn't like it and didn't know if
this meets the criteria for the exception. This is like opening
Pandora's Box and the City doesn't want to fight this with every
other carport that comes in for review. Commissioner Levin
suggested continuing this so the applicant can come back with
screening alternatives. Commissioner Vuksic withdrew his original
motion. He made a motion to continue for sixty (60) days subject to
applicant submitting screening alternatives. Commissioner Levin
made the second.
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ACTION:
Commissioner Vuksic moved to continue Case RV 13-298 for sixty (60)
days subject to applicant submitting screening alternatives. Motion was
seconded by Commissioner Levin and carried by a 6-0-0-2 vote, with
Commissioners Clark and Lambell absent.
6. CASE NO: MISC 13-218
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): D.R. HORTON, Attn: Jennifer
O'Leary, 2280 Wardlow Circle #100, Corona, CA 92880
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
construction plans for new homes; Sonrisa.
LOCATION: Spanish Walk/Gerald Ford
ZONE: P.R.-5
Mr. Tony Bagato, Principal Planner, presented approval of
construction plans for new homes at Sonrisa. This project
previously received preliminary approval with conditions that had
walls on the front elevations increased to 2" x 6" to allow for 2"
reveals and - wrapped around corners where appropriate. In
reviewing those plans, staff noticed that Plans 1 and 3 didn't wrap
where appropriate and Plans 4 and 5 didn't wrap on the second
story elements, which could be the most visible. He recommended
approving the construction drawings with those changes.
Commissioner Clark reminded the Commission that he had some
concerns with the blank walls on the two-story units that were
adjacent to a road or public right-of-way and asked if that was
corrected. Mr. Bagato said he will talk to the applicant because the
plans didn't show specifically which ones were on the corners.
ACTION:
Commissioner Vuksic moved to approve construction drawings subject to:
1) on Plans 1 and 3, wrap corner; 2) on Plans 4 and 5, wrap corners on
2"d story room; and 3) on Plan 5, increase front to 2" x 6" on 2nd story room
to allow for 2" reveals where appropriate. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner Colombini and carried by a 7-0-0-1 vote, with
Commissioner Lambell absent.
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7. CASE NO: MISC 13-218
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): D.R. HORTON, Attn: Jennifer
O'Leary, 2280 Wardlow Circle #100, Corona, CA 92880
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
construction plans for new homes; Esperanza.
LOCATION: Spanish Walk/Gerald Ford
ZONE: P.R.-5
Mr. Tony Bagato, Principal Planner, presented final approval of
construction plans for new homes at Esperanza. He indicated there
were no changes and recommended approval of plans as shown.
ACTION:
Commissioner Levin moved to approve as presented. Motion was seconded
by Commissioner Vuksic and carried by a 7-0-0-1 vote, with Commissioner
Lambell absent.
B. Preliminary Plans:
1. CASE NO: MISC 13-206
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): AUTO ZONE DEVELOPMENT
CORP. 123 South Front Street, Memphis, TN 38102
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of a new
building design and landscape plan: Auto Zone.
LOCATION: 34-860 Monterey Avenue
ZONE: P.C. (3)
Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, presented a new building
design and landscape plan for Auto Zone in the Gateway Shopping
Center. He presented an aerial map and photos of the project and
described the slope of the pad and the elevations off Monterey
Avenue and Dick Kelly Drive. Signage is shown but is not part of
the approval and the applicant will resubmit the signage. All the
mechanical equipment will be screened behind the parapets. He
presented a materials board for the Commission's review and
pointed out where each color would be located. Landscape is also
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a part of this approval, but only for the conceptual design of the
plant material. He pointed out where the plants and trees would be
located. The Landscape Specialist has given preliminary approval
of the plant location and plant palette and the final landscape plans
will be submitted to the City and CVWD. Mr. Swartz stated the
architect was not able to attend the meeting; however Mr. Kurt
Saxon, Saxon Engineering was available for comments.
The Commission reviewed and discussed the building offsets,
punch details, and parapets. Commissioner Vuksic suggested
increasing the building offsets to at least meet the standards of the
other buildings that currently exist out there. He asked for
clarification on the punch details to make sure they were set in far
enough. The parapets need to be four-sided on all the elevations
and the baseline parapets need to be at least as high as the
mechanical equipment horizontally.
The Commission and MR. SAXON discussed continuing the project
off calendar so the architect can return to address their
suggestions.
ACTION:
Commissioner Clark moved to continue Case MISC 13-206 off calendar
subject to: 1) increasing the building offsets; 2) submit clarification on the
punch details; 3) parapets shall be four-sided on all elevations; 4) the
sides of the elements on the north side of building shall return at least
2/3rds of the width; and 5) baseline parapets shall be at least as high as
the mechanical equipment measured horizontally. Motion was seconded
by Commissioner Levin and carried by a 7-0-0-1 vote, with Commissioner
Lambell absent.
2. CASE NO: MISC ODP 13-210
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): CAFE DES BEAUX-ARTS, 73-
640 El Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of a new
awning and outdoor dining: Cafe Des Beaux-Arts.
LOCATION: 73-520 El Paseo
ZONE: C-1, S.P.
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Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, presented an approval to
extend an existing patio for Caf6 Des Beaux-Arts along Larkspur
Lane and El Paseo to comply with the approved design guidelines
for the El Paseo Shopping District. However, the design guidelines
approved by the City Council (Council) in January 2013 only
approved areas along El Paseo. Staff recommends approval of the
design of the new awning, new patio railings, new patio furniture,
and concrete planters with umbrellas; subject to Council granting
approval of the patio extension of 6' from back of curb along
Larkspur Lane, and the applicant obtaining an encroachment permit
and a hold harmless agreement from the Department of Public
Works.
Commissioner Clark stated he walked the distance on Larkspur and
the side of the building and was concerned about maneuverability.
He expressed that the aesthetic value of El Paseo was the ability to
stroll along the street and avoid obstructions and believes that it will
be pretty tight on Larkspur. He also noted that he nearly tripped on
a sidewalk that needed some repair. He mentioned a trash
receptacle on El Paseo and suggested moving it further to the east
to make more walk way. He and Mr. Swartz discussed the
reduction of clear walkway to 7'.
The Commission discussed the metal awning, railings, patio grade,
furnishings, handicap accessibility, and the irrigation of the concrete
planters. The Commission was concerned about the plants during
the summer when the restaurant will be closed for two months. MR.
DIDIER BLOCH, owner, mentioned that the plants will probably die
and would then have to be replaced upon his return. The
Commission discussed seasonal plants for the planters and
irrigation.
Commissioner Vuksic asked if this would return for final approval
and Mr. Swartz answered yes. Commissioner Vuksic wanted to
make sure that the planters are attractive and include real plants
and that the railings look good because he didn't want the two
different railings, one white and one a dark bronze, to junk up the
restaurant. Chair Van Vliet suggested this be continued for further
detail. Mr. Bagato stated in the meantime it will go to Council to
review the patio extension of 6' from back of curb along Larkspur.
MR. BLOCH stated he would be able to remodel the Larkspur side
now, but the El Paseo side would have to wait until next summer
when they are closed.
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ACTION:
Commissioner Vuksic moved to continue Case ODP 13-210 with
comments regarding patio grade, railings, furnishings, handicap
accessibility, concrete planters and irrigation. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner Clark and carried by a 7-0-0-1 vote, with Commissioner
Lambell absent.
C. Miscellaneous Items:
None
VI. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES UPDATE — Commissioner John Vuksic
The October AIPP meeting was cancelled.
VII. COMMENTS
Mr. Pedro Rodriguez, Code Compliance Supervisor, discussed the ordinance
regarding carports. In order for the applicant for Case RV 13-298 to store his
boat in the carport, the carport would have to meet the same standards as a
garage.
Vill. ADJOURNMENT
Upon a motion by Commissioner Levin, second by Commissioner McAuliffe, and
a 7-0-0-1 vote with Commissioner Lambell absent, the Architectural Review
Commission meeting was adjourned at 2:58 p.m.
TONY BAGATO, RINCIPAL PLANNER
SECRETARY
J J U DY0
R DING SECRETARY
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