HomeMy WebLinkAbout2014-07-08 �1•�� CITY OF PALM DESERT
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION
• MINUTES
July 8, 2014
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Chris Van Vliet, Chair X 13
Karel Lambell, Vice Chair X 12 1
Paul Clark X 12 1
Gene Colombini X 13
Allan Levin X 11 2
Michael McAuliffe X 12 1
Jim McIntosh X 13
John Vuksic X 13
Also Present
Lauri Aylaian, Director, Community Development
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Eric Ceja, Associate Planner
Pedro Rodriguez, Code Compliance Supervisor
Janine Judy, Recording Secretary
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
MR. MARK HERNANDEZ, owner of Cedar House Custom Garage Doors, stated he
recently moved his business from Indio to Palm Desert and applied for a sign permit.
However, staff did not accept the application because the signs were about 3" too
big and told him he would need a variance. He pointed out that he has 180 linear
feet on the street. Staff suggested he appear before the Commission to ask for some
guidance. He explained that he spent $4,000 on the signs and feels that it would be
very costly to remove them.
Mr. Bagato said under the Brown Act this item has to be placed on the agenda two
days prior to the meeting. The Commission can make comments but they would not
be able to make any decisions.
The Commission wanted to know what the ordinance issue was. Mr. Eric Ceja,
Associate Planner, said Mr. Hernandez is limited to 50 square feet total and the
signs are about 60 square feet, which would require a variance.
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MR. HERNANDEZ said he has made several improvements to the building and to
the landscaping and wants to bring a positive to the community. The Commission
asked what the signs were made out of and MR. HERNANDEZ said the signs are
Plexiglas laminate and are 5' x 13'.
Mr. Tony Bagato, Principal Planner, informed the applicant that he would have to
submit an application for a variance and asked him to continue working with Mr.
Ceja.
I`V. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: June 24, 2014
Action:
Chair Van Vliet moved to approve the June 24, 2014 meeting minutes. Motion
was seconded by Commissioner Colombini and carried by a 7-0-1 vote, with
Clark, Colombini, Lambell, McAuliffe, McIntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic voting
YES and Levin absent.
%1, CASES:
A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO: ODP 13-210
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): CAFE DES BEAUX-ARTS, 73-640
El Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of new
awning: Cafe Des Beaux-Arts.
LOCATION: 73-520 El Paseo
ZONE: C-1, S.P.
Mr. Tony Bagato, Principal Planner said this item has been to the
Commission several times and now the applicant has returned with
another awning section for the Commission's review. He reminded the
Commission what the issues were regarding the color of the columns,
color of the railings, and the graphic cuts in the metal. The
Commission left the conference room to review the awning.
The Commission reviewed the awning section and discussed the
graphic cuts. MR. SERGIO GARCIA, applicant, said the owner was
okay with the lettering, Cafe des Beaux-Arts, but was concerned with
adding the band and the graphics, which consists of grapes and wine
bottles. Commissioner Vuksic said the band would be very distinct and
wouldn't make it look boxy. MR. GARCIA said he would propose the
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band to the owner, but it may be too cost prohibitive for him to add the
grapes and wine bottles. The owner may decide not to do anything
and just keep the existing awning.approval ommsioner and said sic it t wou'dtlook t o
band
was a very important part of the
boxy without it.
The Commission and the applicant discussed the size of the cuts and
recommended 1/2". The applicant presented a materials board with the
colors of the lcolumns making the and the columnsmns High Noon and ths. The Commission e ailing
flipping the colors
Tawny Amber.
MR. CASEY HUTCHINSON, owner's representative, arrived late to
the meeting, and stated that the owner is still andrecommending the artis is band would lbe
overlay band. The owner feels this awning
a nice addition to El Paseo, but if this new concept doesn't come
together, he will keep the existing weathered awning.
The Commission discussed the size
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they be no larger than 8 and the
Commission also requested an
architectural elevation with details
showing the dimensions of the
Commissioner Lambell made a motion cond t Chairnue with conditions and
VI et asked for any
Commissioner Clark made the a minimum of
additional comments. Commissioner Vuksic suggested
1" offset for the metal band anmiss ostatn doesn't have ahe was rgood tempined about ate
design work because the Com
to hold the applicant to. Commissioner Colombini suggested the
applicant submit a small sample Commissioner 9 to ambe Ilude amended her
the word
"Cafe" as well as the graphics.
motion. Commissioner Clark amended his second.
ACTION: -210
Commissioner Lambell moved to continue
2 Case OD 13 of the guard ra1il sha�l be
color of the columns shall be High )
"Tawny Amber"; 3) the bottom band shall be no larger than 12" wide, 4)
letters on the awning shall be no larger than 8" tall; 5) submit an submit chitecto r2'
elevation with details showingthe
theeword SCafe"imenions oared graphics with 8" letters
section of the awning to include
and a 12" band; 7) minimum of 1" offset for the metal band. Motion was
seconded by Commissioner Clark and carried by a 7-0-1 vote, with Clark,
Colombini, Lambell, McAuliffe, McIntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic voting YES
and Levin absent.
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2• CASE NO: MISC 14-199
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: HERB JACKSON, P.O. Box 12665,
Palm Desert, CA 92255
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of a
single-family home at a proposed height of 18' located on a vacant lot.
LOTION-T_ION- 637-320-030; a vacant property on the south side of Robin
Road, east of Warner Trail
ZONE: R-E
Commissioner McAuliffe recused himself from this project and left the conference room.
Mr. Eric Ceja, Associate Planner, presented exhibits for a house
Proposed at 18' in height, which is the maximum building height. He
explained that anything over 15' has to come to this Commission for
review. The zone is residential estate on a one acre parcel. Due to the
one acre size of the lot with substantial setbacks and the design of the
slope roof staff is recommending approval of the 18' height.
The Commission and staff discussed the intent of the code regarding
anything over 15' in height. Mr. Bagato said the home has to have
architectural merit and be compatible with the existing neighborhood.
He also pointed out that there has been some concern with 18' tall
buildings next to smaller homes. Commissioner McIntosh felt this was
a really large mass. Commissioner Vuksic said it is basically one roof
that covers the entire house other than the entry structure.
Commissioner Lambell asked the applicant if there was a reason why
the entire roof is 18' instead of having a tower element or something to
break up the mass. MR. HERBERT JACKSON, owner, said cost was
the main reason.
Chair Van Vliet asked what portion of the roof is above 15' and MR.
JACKSON said it was the center. The Commission reviewed and
discussed the slope and the fascia lines. MR. JACKSON said it is no
higher than the house across the street and neighboring homes to the
east and west. Basically all the homes are the same height.
Commissioner McIntosh said if you look at the other homes on the
street you can see there is some articulation that breaks it up a bit; like
tower elements that cast a shadow.
Mr. Ceja said this area was annexed into the City in 1994 so there is
an eclectic mix in this neighborhood. Robin Road has a lot more newer
homes, some with two-stories. The Commission didn't think the home
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across the street was 18' in height. MR. JACKSON said the
homeowner told him it was 18'. He also said the reason for the 18' was
because he has high ceilings inside and can't do it without it being 18'
beyond the slope of the roof unless it is a flat roof which is more
expensive and will eventually leak.
The Commission reviewed and discussed the slope of the roof. Mr.
Bagato said anything that comes before the Commission has to meet
certain criteria. He referred to 25.68.040 in the code; that the design
and location of the proposed development is in keeping with the
character of the surrounding neighborhood and is not detrimental to
the harmonious, orderly, and attractive development contemplated by
this title and the General Plan of the City.
Commissioner Vuksic pointed out the articulation on other homes in
the neighborhood. Commissioner Clark suggested changes to the
design to break up the mass. MR. JACKSON said it would be very
difficult because the framing design has already been completed.
The applicant and the Commission discussed some of the changes he
could make to the plans. MR. JACKSON stressed again that there
were homes similar to his in the neighborhood and in order to have 10'
and 11' foot ceilings, it would require an 18' ridge. Commissioner
McIntosh said the applicant is asking for an 18' ridge, the
Commission's position is to ask for a little more architecture to be
more compatible with the neighborhood. Some of the homes are not
one big mass. They have large gabled roofs, with other buildings that
that creates a depth change and variance that gives interest to the
street. MR. JACKSON said he plans to install an RV garage in the
back of the house that will have a flat roof. Commissioner McIntosh
said that does not help the street scene. He believes it wouldn't hurt
the applicant too much to add a little more articulation and relief.
Commissioner Vuksic said normally these things aren't that hard to get
approved. He also said that this house is over the top simple which he
believes is the problem. He didn't feel that it would be too hard as long
as he has a designer that is talented. It should be easy to add enough
articulation.
ACTION:
Commissioner Lambell moved to continue Case MISC 14-199 subject to
providing more articulation and less roof mass. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner Vuksic and carried by a 6-0-2 vote, with Clark, Colombini,
Lambell, McIntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic voting YES and Levin and McAuliffe
absent.
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3. CASE NO: MISC 14-219
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: PAUL DEGRAW, 1565 Scenic Avenue
#A, Costa Mesa, CA 92626
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
fagade changes; Lorna Jane.
LOCATION: 73-445 El Paseo #101
ZONE: C-1, S.P.
Mr. Eric Ceja, Associate Planner, presented exhibits for Lorna Jane a
new tenant at the El Paseo Village. He described the proposed
changes and passed around the materials board.
MR. PAUL DEGRAW, representative, said they are taking about 1,300
square feet out of the corner suite of the previous tenant, Juicy
Couture. The Commission reviewed and discussed the plans and
asked if they were adding an awning and MR. DEGRAW said if the
owner decided to add one, it would come back to the Commission for
review. Since the building faces north, he felt that an awning would not
be needed.
ACTION:
Commissioner Vuksic moved to approve. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner McAuliffe and carried by a 7-0-1 vote, with Clark, Colombini,
Lambell, McAuliffe, McIntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic voting YES and Levin
absent..
B. Preliminary Plans:
None
C. Miscellaneous Items:
None
VI. COMMENTS
The Commission and staff discussed 18" roof heights, signs in commercial areas,
and house colors.
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VII. ADJOURNMENT
Upon a motion by Commissioner Lambell, second by Commissioner McAuliffe, and a
7-0-1 vote, with Clark, Colombini, Lambell, McAuliffe, McIntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic
voting YES, and Levin absent, the Architectural Review Commission meeting was
adjourned at 2:00 p.m.
TONY BAGATO, IN IPAL PLANNER
SECRETARY
JAN E JUEO
REEZRDING SECRETARY
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