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March 25, 2014
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Chris Van Vliet, Chair X 6
Karel Lambell, Vice Chair X 5 1
Paui Clark X 6
Gene Colombini X 6
Allan Levin X 6
Michael McAuliffe X 5 1
Jim Mclntosh X 6
John Vuksic X 6
Also Present
Lauri Aylaian, Director, Community Development
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner
Pedro Rodriguez, Code Compliance Supervisor
Janine Judy, Recording Secretary
I11. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: March 11, 2014
Action:
Commissioner Levin moved to approve the March 11, 2014 meeting minutes.
Motion was seconded by Commissioner Van Vliet and carried by a 7-0-1
vote, with Clark, Colombini, Lambell, Levin, Mclntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic
voting YES and McAuliffe absent.
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A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO: MISC 14-81
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: PEYTON MCELYEA, 77-750
Delaware P�ace, Palm Desert, CA 92211
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Finai approval of a
wall exception to allow a 6' high wood fence visible from the
surrounding roadway.
LOCATION: 77-750 Delaware Place
ZONE: R-E, 40,000
Commissioner Mclntosh recused himself from this project and remained in the
conference room.
Mr. Tony Bagato, Principal Planner said the owner of this property
recently constructed a pool. During the construction, the fence, which
was rotten and run down, was damaged. The fence was removed and
replaced with a new wood fence without a permit. In discussions with
the contractor, staff informed him that wood is not an approved
material when it is visible from the public right-of-way. This fence is not
a typical wood fence but staff didn't feel there was an unusual
hardship to allow the wood and is recommending denial of the material
as proposed.
MR. JOHN BARNETT explained that he was the owner's
representative and would answer any questions the Commission may
have in order to make a decision.
Chair Van Vliet said wood is not an approved material for the City of
Palm Desert and the only way this can be allowed is if there is an
unusual circumstance. MR. BARNETT said the initial fence was 4'-6"
and when the trees were removed for the pool, some of the trees
came down on the fence and popped off a few boards. When they
started to rebuild the fence, they were faced with a lot of rot so the
homeowner decided to put up a new fence. Chair Van Vliet asked why
he didn't put up a block wall. MR. BARNETT said the owner spent
$4,000 on this fence and it is beautiful. Had the homeowner realized
he couldn't have wood, he would have gone with a block wall since it
was only $10 to $12 more a linear foot. If this request is not approved,
the owner would want a continuance so he can come and talk with the
Commission.
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Commissioner Clark asked if there were any mitigating circumstances
that the owner wishes to propose that might solve the problem. MR.
BARNETT said possibly, but he would have to request a continuance.
Mr. Bagato said there weren't any proposed changes so staff
evaluated the fence and is recommending a denial, which the
homeowner is aware of. It would be up to the Commission to grant a
continuance. He said the neighborhood was notified and asked if
anyone would like to step forward to speak on this matter.
MR. JIM MCINTOSH, neighbor, said the zoning ordinance for block
walls was put in place for a reason; because wood fences do not
weather well here in the desert as exhibited in the pictures presented.
This area of the city was once in the County of Riverside and walls
were not enforced or they did not have the zoning ordinances that
Palm Desert has so everyone in this area is hoping we receive the
same attention and care as the rest of the City.
Commissioner Levin said there were other homes on the street that
have wood fences and they are looking pretty weathered. If any of
those fences were to come down or were damaged, could they rebuild
or would they be in the same position. Mr. Bagato said according to
code you can repair and maintain existing fences but if it is a total
rebuild it would have to be all new material; decorative block or
wrought iron. Commissioner Vuksic said it would be dangerous to
approve this fence because it would set precedence. It is pretty clear
that wood is not allowed.
Commissioner Colombini made a motion to deny and Commissioner
Lambell made the second. Commissioner Clark asked the applicant if
he wanted a continuance and the applicant said yes. Commissioner
Vuksic said he couldn't think what they could do to make the fence
more acceptable. MR. BARNETT asked if they could put fiscus trees
in front of the wall and Chair Van Vliet said landscaping is not
acceptable. Commissioner Clark said the next step would be to appeal
to the City Council. The vote was then called.
ACTfON:
Commissioner Colombini moved to deny Case MISC 14-81 as proposed.
Motion was seconded by Commissioner Lambell and carried by a 6-0-1-1
vote, with Clark, Colombini, Lambell, Levin, Van Vliet and Vuksic voting YES,
Mclntosh abstaining and McAuliffe absent.
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2. CASE NO: MISC 14-99
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: CHRISTIAN KNALL, 4224 La Salie,
Culver City, CA 90232
NATURE OF PROJECTIAPPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of a
single-family home at a proposed height of 16'-10".
LOCATION: 73-307 Tamarisk Street
ZONE: R-1, 12,000
Mr. Tony Bagato, Principal Planner said this is a new home being built
on a vacant lot with a contemporary Santa Fe style. It is box shaped
with different levels and tiers. Most of the house is below the 15'
requirement with a portion at 15'-6" and the main entry way at 16'-10".
The neighbors were notified and staff received three responses in
opposition. He went out the property and noticed that the lot is lower
than the property to the south on Goldflower Street and also lower
than the property that is directly to the west of it. He felt that with the
pad being lower, it would not have much of an impact. He presented a
slide presentation and pointed out the different heights of the roof. He
believes the view would not be impacted even with removing the trees.
There are palm trees at the neighbor's property and utility poles and
you do see a little bit of the mountains through the existing trees,
which would also be blocked by a 15' tall home.
Commissioner Clark asked if there was a grading plan and Mr. Bagato
said they did not have one yet so they don't know the exact pad
height, but the pad cannot change more than 6" by code or it has to go
to Planning Commission. Mr. Bagato said even though most of this
neighborhood has lower homes, the majority of this house is in
compliance with the 15' height requirement and only 8% is 16'-10".
Staff is recommending approval.
The Commission and Mr. Bagato discussed the roof plan.
Commissioner Mclntosh wanted to know how high the roof parapet
was on the back side. Mr. Bagato said the main roof was 14'-6" and
closest to the west property line there is a 12' parapet. Commissioner
Mclntosh pointed out that if the parapet is 12', the roof in that area has
to be less than 12'.
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Commissioner Clark pointed out in order to grant the increase in
height there would have to be some kind of architectural merit. Mr.
Bagato said if an applicant does a stepped home or a hipped roof staff
is okay with it. What staff tries to avoid is when a home is 18' tall
causing a drastic impact on the neighborhood. This house is done in
different tiers and it is only stepped right at the 16'-10", which is the
main entrance.
Commissioner Colombini felt that a line of sight from finished grade
would be insignificant. Mr. Bagato agreed and said that was his
position. Commissioner Levin pointed out that the City does not have a
view protection ordinance. Mr. Bagato agreed and said that staff looks
at the impact it would have on the adjacent homes from a massing
standpoint.
The Commission discussed the wing walls on the rear portion of the
raised roof section. Commissioner Vuksic said based on the height of
the parapet behind it and because the lot in the back is higher, you
might see it. He suggested continuing the wall making the whole
element a mass, as well as the lower elevation. He also recommended
that the higher elements that have the higher wing walls, one by the
main entrance and one by the window, should be deeper.
ACTION:
Commissioner Vuksic moved to approve subject to: 1) the parapet at 16'-10"
shall extend to chimney; 2) add another parapet running easUwest in line with
the north boundary of the chimney to enclose the form; 3) the parapet at 15'-
6" shall be doubled in depth so that the north/south wing is extended to be
twice that length and returns to die into the taller form. Motion was seconded
by Commissioner Colombini and carried by a 7-0-1 vote, with Clark,
Colombini, Lambell, Levin, Mclntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic voting YES and
McAuliffe absent.
3. CASE NO: ODP 13-210
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESSI: CAFE DES BEAUX-ARTS, 73-640
EI Paseo, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Approval of a new
awning: Cafe Des Beaux-Arts.
LOCATION: 73-520 EI Paseo
ZONE: C-1, S.P.
Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, said this project came before the
Commission on October 22, 2013 proposing outdoor dining on
Larkspur Lane and EI Paseo. He presented the old exhibit showing
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railings, umbrellas, and landscape. The owner has withdrawn that
application and is now only proposing a new metal awning. He
presented a slide presentation showing the removal of the existing
green awning along EI Paseo and Larkspur Lane and the replacement
awning. He passed around a sample piece of the new awning and said
the new metal awning would be placed in the exact location as the
existing one, with wrought iron under it for support.
MR. SERGIO GARCIA, applicant, said they will be eliminating the
outdoor dining along Larkspur Lane and EI Paseo and replacing the
existing awning with a metal one that will have a wrought iron frame.
The awning will be pitched at an angle and tied into the existing roof.
The Commission and the applicant discussed the metal awning and
how it will be attached. MR. ANTONIO SANTAMARIA, applicant, said
the patina finish will be on the front of the sheet metal with the gutter
behind it. Commissioner Mclntosh said with metal roofing it is very
important on how the front edge looks because the ends of a standing
seam joint is all open. Commissioner Vuksic said the details are
everything and suggested that the applicant submit a mock-up of the
awning with the finish and how the seam and gutter will look, as well
as details on the signage.
ACTION:
Commissioner Lambell moved to continue subject to: 1) submit a section
through the gutter; 2) submit plan details; and 3) submit a mock-up of the
awning piece and finish showing seams and gutter. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner Levin and carried by a 7-0-1 vote, with Clark, Colombini,
Lambell, Levin, Mctntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic voting YES and McAuliffe
absent.
B. Preliminary Plans:
1. CASE NO: MISC 14-20
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: PANERA LLC, 3630 S. Geyer Road,
Suite 100, Sunset Hills, MO 63127
NATURE OF PROJECTlAPPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary approval
of landscape and architectural plans for a new Panera Bread with a
drive-thru in the Desert Gateway Shopping Center.
LOCATION: 34180 Monterey Avenue
ZONE: P.C.-(3)
Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, said this is a brand new 4,200
square foot Panera Bread (Panera) building with a drive-thru on the
southeast corner of Monterey Avenue (Monterey) and Dinah Shore
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Drive. He presented elevations of the site and pointed out where the
Panera building would be located. Staff worked with the applicant on a
couple of renderings because the City did not want the drive-thru
facing Monterey Avenue. He explained that the top of the tower will be
33', which is well within the height limit of 35'. There will be an outdoor
patio facing Monterey, the parking lot will be modified to open it up,
and a new driveway will be created into the parking area. He passed
around a materials board for review. He described the landscape for
the project and said the plans have received preliminary approval by
the City's Landscape Specialist. The roof plan was presented and all
mechanical equipment will be screened.
The Commission and staff reviewed and discussed the internal
circulation, trash enclosures, and the service entrance on the east
elevation. The Commissior� asked how the delivery trucks would gain
access to the building. MR. MONI DOSANJH, Director of
Development, said deliveries will take place in the mornings on the
east elevation with access through a man-door.
The Commission and MR. DOSANJH discussed the color palette, the
elevation from Monterey, a 6" raised curb in the drive-thru, and
signage. Mr. Swartz stated he spoke with the sign company with
concerns of the overall sizing and stacking, but the placement and
type of signs are okay. Mr. Bagato said the signs stacked together
look a little cluttered and suggested moving the drive-thru sign to a
different part of the building to separate them. Mr. Swartz said if the
Commission is okay with the signs as proposed they can recommend
approval and staff will work with the applicant on resizing.
The Commission and the applicant discussed the parapet heights in
relationship to the roof deck and reviewed it for adequate screening of
the roof top equipment. MR. DOSANJH said they did account for the
curb of 4" to 6" and the parapets are at least 36" to 40" above the
highest curb. Mr. Swartz said the construction drawings will come back
to this Commission and staff will watch for that.
The Commission was concerned with the trellis system over the
outdoor patio and asked about the truncated shapes where the
elements get longer and longer. They said using wood in the desert
twists and weathers and suggested another type of material.
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The Commission asked about the landscape screening around the
electrical transformer and MR. DOSANJH directed the Commission to
the landscape plans and pointed out the landscape in that area. He
said they can beef that area up, however, they have to work with
Edison to keep some clearance because Edison will come in and trim
it down because of maintenance reasons.
The Commission had concerns with the depth of the arches and
suggested popping them out to 1' on the south, north, and east
elevations. They pointed out inconsistencies in the roof plan and
recommended submitting a full roof plan. They noticed an external roof
ladder and said that is not an option and recommended an internal
roof access. Mr. Bagato again stated there were discrepancies in the
roof plan and pointed out they don't want to see the back ends of
parapets, crickets, or wing walls. It needs to look like a mass and a
form.
The Commission discussed adding more depth to the glass in the
entry tower opening and reviewed the imbedded window features on
the south elevation. They also suggested something on the north
elevation to break up that large surface area. Mr. Bagato showed the
applicant examples of other buildings with stone that will help break up
the building.
ACTION:
Commissioner Lambell moved to continue Case No. MISC 14-20 based on
Commissioners comments. Motion was seconded by Commissioner
Colombini and carried by a 7-0-1 vote, with Clark, Colombini, Lambell, Levin,
Mclntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic voting YES and McAuliffe absent.
C. Miscellaneous Items:
None
�w►I. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES UPDATE — Commissioner John Vuksic
Commissioner Vuksic reported on the recent Art in Public Places meeting. A new
exhibit, Student Art and Essay Contest...will be on display in the Palm Desert
Community Gallery from April 24 through June 5. The 2014 Palm Desert Public Art
Documentary Film Series concludes on April 17 and The Palm Springs Museum at
Palm Desert is still hosting the First Friday cultural events on the first Friday of every
month.
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VII. COMMENTS
Staff and Commission discussed roof ladders, 3-D drawings, and submittal of Form
700.
VI11. ADJOURNMENT
Upon a motion by Commissioner Lambelt, second by Commissioner Levin, and a 7-
0-1 vote, with Clark, Colombini, Lambell, Levin, Mclntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic
voting YES and McAuliffe absent, the Architectural Review Commission meeting
was adjourned at :10 p.m.
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