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ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION
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October 14, 2014
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Chris Van Vliet, Chair X 18
Karel Lambell, Vice Chair X 17 1
Paul Clark X 16 2
Gene Colombini X 17 1
Allan Levin X 16 2
Michael McAuliffe X 17 1
Jim McIntosh X 17 1
John Vuksic X 17 1
Also Present
Lauri Aylaian, Director, Community Development
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Eric Ceja, Associate Planner
Pedro Rodriguez, Code Compliance Supervisor
Janine Judy, Recording Secretary
Cancelled meeting:09/23/14
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: September 9, 2014
Action:
Commissioner Levin moved to approve the September 9, 2014 meeting
minutes. Motion was seconded by Chair Van Vliet and carried by an 8-0
vote, with Lambell, Clark, Colombini, Levin, McAuliffe, McIntosh, Van Vliet
and Vuksic voting YES.
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V, CASES:
A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO: SA 14-234
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: KAISER GRILLE PALM DESERT,
74-040 Portola Avenue, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
the color for six awnings; Kaiser Grille.
LOCATION: 74-040 Portola Avenue
ZONE: C.1, S.P.
Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, said due to a complaint
regarding the awning color for Kaiser Grille this color change came
before the Commission back in August. He reminded the
Commissioners that the owner switched the restaurant from Chop
House to Kaiser Grille and changed the awning color to orange.
There are two awnings on Portola Avenue and four awnings on
Highway 111. The concern at the last meeting was with the two
signs directly under the sign on Highway 111. The Commission
recommended that the applicant incorporate the grayish silver in
the "Kaiser" sign into their awnings and leaving the two awnings at
each end with the orange color. The applicant has decided not to
change the color since the interior of the restaurant is orange and
yellow. Mr. Swartz said even though they have only received one
compliant for the orange color the owner has received several
compliments from customers. Staff is recommending approval with
the suggestion that the apron is pulled taut. He also mentioned that
the property owner would like to make a change to his sign
program where all the awnings in the center will match the lettering
colors in the signs.
Commissioner Vuksic said from one angle it appears there are four
awnings, but if you are driving west on Highway 111 you will only
see three awnings. He felt that changing two awnings to silver/gray
will not look balanced. He agrees that the orange color freshens up
the building and makes it pop. He feels that the color looks better
with the current signage.
Commissioner Clark said he is concerned with the frumpiness of
the awnings that hang down and thought it would look better if it
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was tightened up. MR. ERIC MORCUS, owner, stated that the sign
company removed the bottom band and is in the process of
repairing and making them taut. Commissioner Vuksic said he liked
how it looked without the apron. MR. SAM SPINELLO, property
owner, said the ownership would like to keep the apron because all
the other awnings on property had aprons. Ownership is looking to
maintain consistency in structure, style, and color. The Commission
and MR. SPINELLO discussed the framework for the awnings.
Commissioner Vuksic referred to the proposal by Mr. Spinello to
change the sign program so that all the awnings in the center will
match the lettering colors on the sign and felt this was not a good
idea. MR. SPINELLO explained that they inherited this sign
program from the previous owner and they have continued with it.
He explained that the primary color of the sign would become the
color of the awning. Commissioner Vuksic stated this works for
Kaiser Grille but didn't think it would for the remaining stores where
it could be orange, green, or red. He didn't think this would be a
good strategy. MR. SPINELLO stated they are worried that they will
end up with too many colors if they allowed the signs not to match
the awnings. The Commission and MR. SPINELLO discussed the
sign program. Commissioner Vuksic suggested that the property
owner discuss this further with staff.
Commissioner McAuliffe discussed the concept of going to a
silver/gray color on two of the orange awnings. He still feels that the
amount of orange is overpowering the signage. MR. SPINELLO
talked about the issues of colors on the other stores and said if he
allows the awning to go silver/gray, he loses a legal or political
argument of not maintaining consistency from a landlord
standpoint. If he allows MR. MORCUS to alternate his awnings
from orange to silver/gray then he will have other tenants
questioning why they can't have two different colors. Commissioner
Levin said that request would come back to this Commission for
review. MR. SPINELLO and the Commission continued to discuss
the apron and framework.
ACTION:
Commissioner Levin moved to approve the color subject to the apron
being pulled taut. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Vuksic and
carried by a 7-1-0 vote, with Clark, Colombini, Lambell, Levin, McIntosh,
Van Vliet and Vuksic voting YES and Commissioner McAuliffe voting NO.
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Commissioner Vuksic abstained from this project and left the conference room.
2. CASE NO: SA 14-298
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: BEST SIGNS, INC. 1550 S. Gene
Autry Trail, Palm Springs, CA 92264
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Final approval of
a comprehensive sign program: 11" Bank.
LOCATION: 73-000 Highway 111
ZONE: C.1, S.P.
Mr. Eric Ceja, Associate Planner, said the applicant is requesting
approval of a comprehensive sign program for the 1st Bank; a two-
story office building. The building has primarily operated with a
single tenant; however lease space is available for other
perspective tenants. The sign program is intended to address sign
needs for future tenants by providing two new sign locations for
new building-mounted signs. For uniformity the sign program
proposes sign size and illumination standards for all existing and
proposed building signs. In addition, the sign program provides
standards for non-illuminated directional signs and the existing
monument sign. Review of a sign program is necessary as there
are four existing channel letter signs for 1'c Bank and two new
channel letter signs being proposed on the second story of the
building. All signs are within the allowed maximum sign area and
illumination standards set in the City's sign ordinance. The
proposed sign for the new tenant, Lee & Associates, is in scale and
works at this location on the building. They are proposing two signs;
one on the north and one on the east side of the building. The sign
program not only provides flexibility for specific criteria for Lee &
Associates, but also for another tenant if Lee & Associates moves
out. Mr. Ceja indicated that the Commission is considering the
entirety of the sign program since they are setting up the standard
for all signage on the building and providing the specifications for
the Lee & Associates sign. Staff is recommending approval.
The Commission and staff discussed the number of signs allowed
on this building. Mr. Ceja said the four existing signs shown in the
exhibit for 1st Bank will remain as well as the two new building signs
for Lee & Associates. If they wanted a third sign that wasn't
addressed here, they would have to amend the sign program.
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ACTION:
Commissioner Lambell moved to approve. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner McIntosh and carried by a 7-0-1 vote, with Clark,
Colombini, Lambell, Levin, McAuliffe, McIntosh, and Van Vliet voting YES
and Commissioner Vuksic absent.
B. Preliminary Plans:
1. CASE NO: CUP 13-179
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: AT&T MOBILITY, Attn: Mitchell
Bryant, 16150 Scientific, Irvine, CA 92618
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Preliminary
discussion to approve proposed location of a mono-palm located at
the Heather James Fine Art gallery.
LOCATION: 45-188 Portola Avenue
ZONE: C.1, S.P.
Mr. Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner, said this is for a new 55' tall
monopalm located on the Heather James Fine Art property on
Portola Avenue (Portola) and Highway 111. He presented a
PowerPoint exhibit showing the proposed location on the Portola
side. He stated this has been a long process working with AT&T.
The initial proposal was for a 71' tall monopalm in the parking lot in
the rear of the building, but staff had concerns that there wasn't
enough screening in that area. Then they proposed a tower
element on the building for a 55' tall stealth monopalm. Staff had
concerns with that design because the City does not have any two-
story buildings in that area and this was out of character and
proportion to the building. Staff preferred the area on the Highway
111 side because of the tree cluster in that area, but in researching
the area staff realized that would not be a viable location because
of the bus shelter and several easements in that location. They are
now proposing a location in front of the building on the Portola side.
He pointed out the location and said staff was concerned because
the applicant doesn't know at this time how many palm trees would
have to be removed to get the monopalm in that area. He said the
equipment shelter, designed to look like the building, will be located
on the north side of the building and would take up some of the
parking stalls. He pointed out the City's property line and said that
the monopalm has to be about 5' away from the building.
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MS. TERRY GRISENTI, Coastal Business Group, said the edge of
the footing needs to be at least 5' away and it is 5' across. From the
property line to the building, there is only about 11' so it wouldn't be
efficient. Part of the foundation will be on the city right-of-way and
the fronds and antennae will definitely be over the city sidewalk.
Some of the landscape area is also city property.
The Commission and staff discussed the property line and
easement situation on Portola. Mr. Swartz stated in order to get the
monopalm in that area a sculpture will have to be relocated and
some of the trees will have to be removed. Chair Van Vliet asked if
they can determine what trees will be removed and what trees will
remain before they start trenching. MS. GRISENTI pointed out the
fire infrastructure and irrigation in this area. She said the applicant
has surveyed this area and nothing has shown up on public record
and they won't know what is underneath until Dig-Alert marks the
utilities. Based on what they do know so far the sculpture will need
to move to the edge of the patio and the tree that AT&T is
proposing will go between the fire hydrant and the building. It will be
AT&T's goal to not permanently remove any trees.
Chair Van Vliet stated that locating the monopalm in this area
doesn't make any sense because it is a beautiful and prominent
building on Highway 111 and Portola. He asked the applicant if they
have reviewed other sites that aren't quite so visible. MS.
GRISENTI said they have been up and down the street and this
was their fifth property owner they have talked to.
Commissioner Clark pointed out the large parking lot behind the
building further to the east which also serves US Bank and asked if
anything would work in that area. He also asked if the monopalm
could be better disguised. MS. GRISENTI said they have gone
through several iterations on the monopalm itself and have looked
at putting antennas inside the coconut, the date palm bulb on the
bottom. Based on the type of palm trees in the area and the
proximity of people on this property it just wasn't adequate as far as
screening.
Commissioner Levin asked staff if they can require them to replant
the same number of trees when they are done. Mr. Swartz said the
Commission can condition it that way. MS. GRISENTI said she
would have a problem with accepting a condition like that. After
reviewing the site for fire infrastructure, they may not be able to
relocate or add more trees.
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The Commission discussed the height of the monopalm, the tower,
hiding the antennas, and the area in the back corner of the
property. Mr. Swartz pointed out that the height of the existing trees
on Portola is about 40' to the top. They will need additional live
palms to start at 45' to help stagger and screen the antennas. MS.
GRISENTI said the trees that are planted around it would need to
be planted underneath the height of the antennas so it would have
to stop at 40' to keep from blocking the signal.
The Commission and the applicant reviewed and discussed the
rear parking lot. MS. GRISENTI was concerned with getting
approval to cross the easement and removal of non palm trees in
that area. Commissioner McIntosh said the whole concern is that it
is so much on Portola and if it's back 100' that would make a huge
difference. Commissioner Vuksic said they would then have a layer
of things before you see it; landscape, parking lot trees, palm trees
on Portola, and the buildings. The Commission reviewed previous
plans for this location and suggested that the monopalm and the
equipment shelter be placed in this same area. Mr. Swartz stated
the applicant would have to talk with the gallery in reference to
losing about four parking stalls for the monopalm, one or two live
palms, and the equipment shelter. MS. GRISENTI said she will
check out the easement in that area.
Commissioner Clark said the applicant needs to look at it again and
make sure that this is really the property where they want to locate
the monopalm. MS. GRISENTI asked the Commission if moving it
to the southeast corner would be better. Commissioner Clark said
they have made several suggestions and they need to evaluate
each suggestion.
ACTION:
Commissioner Clark moved to continue Case No. CUP 13-179 subject to
exploring different locations either on this site or adjoining properties.
Motion was seconded by Commissioner Levin and carried by an 8-0 vote,
with Clark, Colombini, Lambell, Levin, McAuliffe, McIntosh, Van Vliet and
Vuksic voting YES.
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C. Miscellaneous Items:
None
VI. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES UPDATE (AIPP) — Commissioner John Vuksic
Commissioner Vuksic reported the following at the October 8, 2014 AIPP
meeting. City Council approved two sculptures from the El Paseo Exhibition that
will be placed along Desert Willow Drive; the theme, "Palm Desert Through My
Eyes", was chosen for the 2015 Student Art and Essay Contest; the sculptures
from the current El Paseo Exhibition will be de-installed early October and the
new sculptures will be installed early November; the three finalists (artists) were
placed in order of preference to create a mural for the Carlos Ortega Villas
project; and the Palm Springs Art Museum in Palm Desert will be offering free
admission for the next two years.
VI'I. COMMENTS
The Commission and staff discussed the Walls and Fences committee meeting,
and the awning at Beaux de Arts restaurant.
VINI. ADJOURNMENT
Upon a motion by Commissioner Lambell, second by Commissioner McAuliffe,
and an 8-0 vote, with Clark, Colombini, Lambell, Levin, McAuliffe, McIntosh, Van
Vliet and Vuksic voting YES, the Architectural Review Commission meeting was
adjourned at 1:50 p.m.
T :)NY BAGATO, PRINCIPAL PLANNER
SECRETARY
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