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ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION
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May 12, 2015
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Chris Van Vliet, Chair X 8
Karel Lambell, Vice Chair X 8
Paul Clark X 8
Gene Colombini X 8
Allan Levin X 8
Michael McAuliffe X 8
Jim Mclntosh X 8
„� John Vuksic X 7 1
Also Present
Lauri Aylaian, Director, Community Development
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Eric Ceja, Associate Planner
Pedro Rodriguez, Code Compliance Supervisor
Janine Judy, Recording Secretary
Cancelled meeting:03/10/15;
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: April 28, 2015
Action:
Commission Levin moved to approve the April 28, 2015 meeting minutes.
Motion was seconded by Chair Van Vliet and carried by an 8-0 vote, with
Clark, Colombini, Lambell, Levin, McAuliffe, Mclntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic
voting YES.
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V. CASES:
A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO: PP 14-288
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: ABSOLUTE PARTNERS ONE LLC,
Attn: Robert Johnson, 45800 Mohawk Circle, Indian Welis, CA 92210
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Consideration to
approve a new four-unit condominium project; Shadow Mountain 4.
LOCATION: 73-793 Shadow Mountain Dr
ZONE: R-3
Mr. Eric Ceja, Associate Planner, said this mid-century four-plex
condominium project on Shadow Mountain Drive was approved as
submitted November 2014. Today the final drawings were presented
for the Commission's review. The applicant has already submitted to
the Building department who will issue a permit pending final approval
today.
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The Commission reviewed the plans and discussed the ventilation of
the fireplaces on the two end units. Commissioner Vuksic stated that
the fireplace design works with the architecture.
ACTION:
Commissioner Colombini moved to approve Motion seconded by
Commissioner Vuksic and carried 8-0 with Clark, Colombini, Lambell, Levin,
McAuliffe, Mclntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic voting YES.
2. CASE NO: M ISC 15-133
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: WILMER CABEZAS, 73-400 Royal
Palm Drive, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Consideration to
approve a house color change.
LOCATION: 73-400 Royal Palm Drive
ZONE: R-2(5)
Mr. Eric Ceja, Associate Planner, presented a request for a house
color change. The homeowner recently painted his house and made �`
some landscape improvements and a neighbor came in to inquire
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about the color. He presented photos of the house and said it was
originally an off-color green but is now yellow with brown trim. Mr. Ceja
said he inspected the house and drove around the neighborhood
where he located a few other houses in different shades of yellow.
Staff is recommending approval.
Chair Van Vliet asked the applicant if he painted the house or did a
contractor do the work. MR. WILMER CABEZAS, homeowner, said he
hired a contractor. Commissioner Lambell asked if the contractor
mentioned getting approval from the City to paint the house yellow.
MR. CABEZAS said the contractor did not get approval. MR.
CABEZAS said his motivation was to improve the condition of his
house and the neighborhood.
Chair Van Vliet said he drove by the house and stated that it is a little
further back from the street and is lowered. He felt it wasn't "so in your
face" as he thought it might be. Commissioner Clark reminded the
Commission of a similar paint color on another house that was
appealed to the City Council where it was approved. Mr. Ceja said that
is why staff is recommending approval of this color. He pointed out
that the neighborhood itself is a bit more eclectic in terms of the colors
and architectural styles of the homes. So in keeping with the
r neighborhood he felt the color was okay.
Commissioner Lambell discussed the landscape changes. MR.
CABEZAS said he also planted flower beds and cypresses.
Commissioner Lambell commended the applicant for improving his
house.
Commissioner Vuksic asked to see a Google street view of the
neighborhood. Mr. Ceja was able to pull up four to five houses all in
different shades of yellow. Commissioner Vuksic felt the applicant's
photograph looked nice with the desert landscaping and gold and pink
DG and stated the house makes a little bit of an artistic statement with
those additions. Commissioner Mclntosh pointed out that with any new
installation of new paint and new landscape, everything always looks a
little too clean and stark. He thinks within a year the landscape will
mature and the yellow pigment will fade and all will be okay.
Commissioner Vuksic said it is a strong color but the fact that it's a
gold color makes it okay. If it was a strong blue, it might be a little
harder to approve.
Commissioner McAuliffe said in this case the desert landscaping helps
because the green of the grass would make the yellow appear to be
too intense. Commissioner Vuksic said staff is right by pointing out the
+�`` context of the house and what's around it seems to work. He believes
that the house they denied last year was not in keeping with the
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context unlike this one. Commissioner Mclntosh said the other house
was a missed opportunity. It had so much geometry and stucco it
could have been done right but it was just a big paint bomb.
ACTION:
Commissioner Mclntosh moved to approve. Motion seconded by
Commissioner Lambell and carried 8-0 with Clark, Colombini, Lambell, Levin,
McAuliffe, Mclntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic voting YES.
B. Preliminary Plans:
1. CASE NO: MISC 15-19
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: WESTliving, LLC, Attn: Alyce Conti,
5796 Armada Drive, Suite 300, Carlsbad, CA 92008
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Consideration to
preliminarily approve the architectural and landscape design for a two-
story, 150-unit assisted living facility with a memory care component
on Lot 4 within Villa Portofino; WESTliving.
LOCATION: 40-235 Portola Avenue
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ZONE: P.R.-5
Mr. Tony Bagato, Principal Planner, said this project has returned for
the fourth time and stated that the applicant has made changes as
recommended by the Commission at the last meeting.
Commissioner Clark asked if the workshop was held and Mr. Bagato
said the meeting took place a couple of weeks ago. MR. GARTH
BRANDOW, architect, said the workshop was very effective and
beneficial. They were able to get into the design elements in detail
more so than they could have in a formal setting. The group was able
to specifically review some of the Tuscan quality, rhythm, character
and detailing. He then presented the revised plans and described the
changes made since the last meeting.
Commissioner Vuksic commended the applicant on all the work they
have done to get this project up to standard and the massing changes
they have made have helped a lot. He and the applicant discussed the
recess on the windows where the decorative railing was placed.
Commissioner Vuksic said as far as creating depth on key elements
he knows they have been resisting that and understands there is a
cost, but feels like they are at the minimum on the corner towers. He
and the architect discussed the thickness of the walls where the other �'
gable elements were located.
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Commissioner McAuliffe agreed with those comments and said even
though the details seem subtle they have a significant impact on the
overall quality and perception of the architecture. He discussed the
suggestions made at the workshop meeting and how the architect
made them work.
Commissioner Mclntosh said he is pleased with the way it looks now
and also agreed that the thickness is critical. He and the architect
discussed the thickness of the walls. Commissioner Mclntosh said
overall there is some good relief, shade and shadow, contrast and
significance to the corner elements and rooflines. He also discussed
wall sconces on the building that may also be another element. He
asked if they would be including that in the final drawings. MR.
BRANDOW said they will have parking lot lighting and at the entry
elements of the building. Commissioner Mclntosh said this will be
another level of detail that will help in making this a more authentic
building which represents the style.
Commissioner Vuksic said the applicant has done an amazing job of
listening to the Commissioner's comments and making improvements
with each meeting.
�'' ACTION:
Commissioner Clark moved to approve subject to the carport design returning
to ARC for preliminary approval. Motion was seconded by Commissioner
Lambell and carried by an 8-0 vote with Clark, Colombini, Lambell, Levin,
McAuliffe, Mclntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic voting YES.
2. CASE NO: DAIPP/CUP 15-87 -Amendment to DA/PP/CUP 07-11
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: EL PASEO HOTEL, LLC, Attn: Robert
Leach, 3941 Park Drive, Suite 20-308, EI Dorado Hills, CA 95762
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Consideration to
preliminarily approve a new design for a previously approved hotel; EI
Paseo Hotel
LOCATION: 45-400 Larkspur Lane
ZONE: C-1 8� R-3
Commissioner McAuliffe abstained from this project and left the conference room.
Mr. Eric Ceja, Associate Planner, said this project was before the
Commission on April 14, 2015 and the applicant has returned with
�"'' changes. The applicant has reduced the overall massing and the
number of stories from four to three and still within the overall
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approved maximum height limit of 37'. He presented an elevation plan
and conceptual drawings and pointed out the changes made that were
recommended by the Commission. He said staff is recommending
approval and would like to recommend that the final wall design along
the perimeter come back for review and approval. He was unsure of
the finish and height of this wall and would like to see more interaction
like a street scene.
Commissioner Clark asked if this would be going to the Planning
Commission and the City Council (Council.) Mr. Ceja said since the
applicant dropped the building to 37' in height and maintaining what
was originally approved in 2007, this does not have to go back for
public hearings. Staff does anticipate that the Council will review the
plans but are not sure if they will call it up for a public hearing.
MR. ROBERT LEACH, Project Manager, said one of the issues at the
last meeting was the HVAC chiller system. He pointed out that this
system is too big to be placed on a three story building and said it will
be on the ground on the north side where the dumpsters will be
located.
MR. LOUIE DeCARLO, Project Designer, provided a color and
materials board along with stone and stucco colors for the �
Commission's review. He pointed out where the materials and colors
would be located. He also pointed out that they have adjusted all the
architecture and provided a lot of relief.
Commissioner Mclntosh wondered why they flattened the roof in the
main entry since it added some interesting and dynamic appeal
running parallel with the porte-cochere. Now when comparing the old
to the new iYs not as appealing. He and MR. DeCARLO discussed this
architectural projection and the height of the building. Commissioner
Mclntosh asked if there could be an exception for a little bit of an
encroachment into that height limit since it is a significant architectural
piece. Mr. Bagato said the specific approval states no more than 42'
and to change that would require it going back to the Planning
Commission. The Commission reviewed the before and after photo of
this element and Chair Van Vliet agreed that it does take away from
the overall building when it is flattened. Commissioner Mclntosh said
that was the one thing that grabbed him about this building and he
doesn't see why this couldn't translate from a four story building to a
three story building. He said he would really hate to compromise a
good piece of architecture. The Commission and the applicants
discussed this projection in detail. Commissioner Vuksic said they
could detail the right side the way they did originally where it doesn't
encroach on the mass to the right but dies into the pillar element. He �
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said to leave the left side where it is and just drop the right side to stay
within the height limit. MR. DeCARLO agreed.
Commissioner Vuksic and MR. DeCARLO discussed in detail the
north and south elevations. Commissioner Vuksic recommended
additional massing on those two elevations. MR. DeCARLO said that
is something they will take a look at.
The Commission and the applicants discussed the roof plan and
parapet heights, elevators, stairs and the safety rails on the roof.
MS. ALEX JOSEPH, asked about the southeast stairwell and MR.
DeCARLO said that was moved towards the center of the building. He
explained that a blank wall will now be on the southeast side 10' from
the back of her property line with an 8' high wall.
MS. BARBARA SATTLEY, said this looks so much better; it's long,
sleek and modern. She wondered what type of landscape would be in
the area near her home. (Several people were talking at the same time
and the recording secretary was unable to hear their comments.) MR.
GREGORY, RGA Landscape Architects, said they are open for
suggestions in that area.
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MS. SYLVIA ELLMORE, said she likes what they have done by
lowering the building. She referred to the slope of a couple of the walls
and said from an aesthetic point of view if they were to slope the side
facing her property it would tie everything together. MR. DeCARLO
said he would review that.
MR. JOHN JENNINGS, said with the current changes, his condo will
now look directly out onto a large massive wall and asked what design
elements will be on that wall. MR. DeCARLO said there will be ledges
on that wall which are triangular in profile, creating a kind of mid-
modern motif. These ledges will be plaster with different colors.
MR. LEACH and the Commission discussed proceeding with the
structural drawings for the current footprint. The Commission said this
footprint is a vast improvement from the previous submittal.
ACTION:
Commissioner Lambell moved to continue Case No. DA/PP/CUP 15-87 -
Amendment to DA/PP/CUP 07-11 to allow further design study of the main
entry design element and the north and south elevations for more massing.
Motion seconded by Commissioner Levin and carried 7-0-1 with Clark,
Colombini, Lambell, Levin, Mclntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic voting YES and
�' McAuliffe absent.
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C. Miscellaneous Items:
None
VI. COMMENTS
Deborah Schwartz Glickman, Art in Public Places, said when big projects
come to this Commission, such as the EI Paseo Hotel, she wants to make
sure that the Public Art has a presence. She would like this Commission to
remind the developers to talk to the Public Art Department as early in the
process as possible.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
Upon a motion by Commissioner Lambell, second by Commissioner Levin, and an 8-
0 vote, with Clark, Colombini, Lambell, Levin, McAuliffe, Mclntosh, Van Vliet and
Vuksic voting YES, the Architectural Review Commission meeting was adjourned at
2:26 p.m.
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TONY BA ATO, P INCIPAL PLANNER
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