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ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION
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January 26, 2016
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date
Present Absent Present Absent
Chris Van Vliet, Chair X 2
Karel Lambell, Vice Chair X 2
Paul Clark X 2
Gene Colombini X 1 1
Allan Levin X 2
Michael McAuliffe X 2
Jim Mclntosh X 2
John Vuksic X 2
Also Present
Ryan Stendell, Director of Community Development
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Kevin Swartz, Associate Planner
Eric Ceja, Associate Planner
Pedro Rodriguez, Code Compliance Supervisor
Janine Judy, Recording Secretary
Cancelled meeting:
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: January 12, 2016
Action:
Chair Van Vliet moved to approve the January 12, 2016 meeting minutes.
Motion was seconded by Commissioner Levin and carried by a 7-0-1 vote,
with Clark, Lambell, Levin, McAuliffe, Mclntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic
voting YES and Colombini abstaining.
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V. CASES:
A. Final Drawings:
1. CASE NO: MISC 15-378
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: LOUAY NAOUFAL, 77-005 New
York Avenue, Palm Desert, CA 92260
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Consideration to
approve a new front entry carport 20' from the curb and a new roof
height at 16'-3".
LOCATION: 77-005 New York Avenue
ZONE: R-1
Mr. Tony Bagato, Principal Planner, said this proposal for a new
front entry carport 20' from the curb and a new roof height at 16'-3"
has returned to the Commission with changes that were
recommended at the last meeting.
MR. CARLOS SANCHEZ, designer, discussed the changes to the
carport and roof as recommended at the last meeting. The
Commission and MR. SANCHEZ discussed the width of the
driveway, roof tile, stucco, and the material at the base of the
columns.
Commissioner Mclntosh said this is an improvement over what was
presented at the previous meeting. The roof forms represent more
of the overall design of the house on all four sides versus the
previous plan. The scale is more appropriate along with a new roof
form that actually identifies the entry instead of it being just a big
carport on the front of the house.
The Commission and MR. SANCHEZ discussed the flashing
conditions where the crown work tucks under the eaves and the
little roof over the front entry that sits on top of the carport roofing.
They suggested reducing the width of the carport a little so that the
entry structure can be its own element and possibly getting it up a
little higher so they wouldn't have that odd condition.
Commissioner Vuksic referred to the floor plan and said it appears
that the house is suffering and looks like it's crowding the entrance
to the house. He said there is 22' between the columns and asked
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if they needed that 22' feet clear. MR. NOUAY NAOUFAL,
applicant, said yes because this will be for handicap-accessible
parking for a van plus another vehicle. Commissioner Vuksic
discussed the front door and the little gabled roof and said things
don't always have to line up but if they don't, it needs to look
intentional and this doesn't look intentional. He said the issue is
with the detail where the roofs come together because that will look
odd if it's not detailed well. The mass and forms are fine and said
he would vote to approve it and said this Commission will take a
look at that detail when it comes back in working drawings.
ACTION:
Commissioner Vuksic moved to approve subject to Commission
comments and submitting construction drawings and entry roof details for
their review. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Levin and carried by
a 7-0-1 vote, with Clark, Lambell, Levin, McAuliffe, Mclntosh, Van Vliet
and Vuksic voting YES and Colombini abstaining.
B. Preliminary Plans:
1. CASE NO: MISC 15-207
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: ROTHBART DEVELOPMENT,
Attn: Stanley Rothbart, 10990 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1000, Los
Angeles, CA 90024
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Consideration to
preliminarily approve a new 6,700 square foot building on the last
remaining building pad (22) within the Desert Gateway Shopping
Center, and a landscaping plan surrounding the building and at the
southeast corner of Dinah Shore Drive and Monterey Avenue.
LOCATION: 34-100 Monterey Avenue
ZONE: P.C.-(3)
Mr. Kevin Swartz, Associate Planner, said this item was continued
from the October 28, 2015 meeting for the last pad at the Desert
Gateway Shopping Center. He presented photos of the pad from
Monterey Avenue and Dinah Shore Avenue and described the
changes that the applicant has submitted and passed around a
materials board for the Commission's review. He explained that the
building's orientation on the east elevation is within the parking lot
and pointed out that the applicant added awning details on the
north and west elevation so it wouldn't look like back of building. He
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informed the Commission that signage was not a part of this
submittal but each tenant would be allowed one sign per frontage.
He pointed out potential locations for the signs.
MR. BRIAN POLIQUIN, architect, said they added two four-sided
pitched roofs on each side of the buildings, mostly oriented towards
the road at the corner, they fully cut the mansards into the
buildings, they softened the colors, all the major architectural
elements protrude 3' from the building, and they kept most of the
cloth awnings along with steel awnings on the buildings. He
discussed the color changes on the building and said there is a lot
of detail on this building in a very small area and believes this is
what this Commission is expecting on the corner. They also added
green screens on the ends because their client doesn't want
windows on the back side of the building.
The Commission and MR. POLIQUIN discussed the green screens,
metal trellises, the landscape plan, and the depth of the columns on
the west elevation, and awnings. They also reviewed and
discussed the recesses on the major elements. Commissioner
Vuksic was still concerned that some of the elements were still
shallow. The Commission and MR. POLIQUIN continued to discuss
the amount of recesses on the building. MR. POLIQUIN said his
client doesn't want to double up the walls to get the thickness. He
restated they have increased all the major elements on the building;
they have added pitched roofs, and a mansard that cuts into the
building based on this Commission's comments at the last meeting.
Other buildings on the site have windows that are 4" in and are not
overly recessed. He suggested they back-set the mullions as far as
they can and use 6" studs on it with an additional inch for stucco.
They are also building out the bottom bases and can push the glass
as far back into that recess as possible. He understands that this is
an important location and that is why they added a lot more detail
on the building.
Commissioner Vuksic referred to the north end of the west
elevation and the south end of the west elevation where the green
screens are located and said this needs more depth than what is
shown on the floor plan. On the north end, it is showing 4" and on
the south end it shows 3". MR. POLIQUIN said he thinks he can
push this out fairly easily and thicken that opening to get some
depth there. Commissioner Vuksic suggested at least a foot. On the
south elevation, the wall that faces Panera, he said that has to be
more than 4" for that whole wall because it is so big and suggested
a 12" recess there. Commissioner McAuliffe suggested thickening
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the columns to the inside of the building to possibly achieve that
thickness but that footprint may have to occur as a pilaster on the
inside of the building leaving the glass line where it is.
Commissioner Vuksic referred to the three-sided taller parapet
elements on the roof plan and recommended they be four-sided.
MR. POLIQUIN said he could wrap the ends around the corner so
the detail looks finished and taking it four or five feet down so it
looks like a mass where it just stops. Commissioner Vuksic said
that would be okay if they submit a line-of-sight to prove to this
Commission that you would not see it.
ACTION:
Commissioner Vuksic moved to preliminarily approve subject to: granted
preliminary approval subject to: 1) the south elevation windows must be
recessed to a minimum of 12" from all columns; 2) the applicant will
remove all green decorative walls; 3) on the west elevation, remove the
green walls adding stucco, paint and awnings; 4) on the rear entrance,
add an awning to the right side of the former green wall for balance; 5) on
the south elevation, awnings must be added over the green color paint
where the dark brown color is located; and 6) the buildings two larger
parapet elements must return. Motion was seconded by Commissioner
Clark and carried by an 8-0 vote, with Clark, Colombini, Lambell, Levin,
McAuliffe, Mclntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic voting YES.
2. CASE NO: MISC 15-384
APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: D.R. HORTON, 2280 Wardlow
Circle #100, Corona, CA 92880
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Consideration to
preliminarily approve 54 units; Sonrisa at Spanish Walk.
LOCATION: 341 Paseo Gusto
ZONE: P.R. 19
Mr. Kevin Swartz, Associate Planner, presented 54 units for
Sonrisa at Spanish Walk. The Sonrisa property was approved for
147 units of single-family homes and the remaining 54 lots that will
change from detached single-family homes to attached single
family homes. He described the styles of the homes and said this is
here for the new architectural elevations for the attached product.
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MR. DAN BOYD, D.R. Horton, said the reason they are proposing
this modification is because their buying market has basically
demanded a different product. Consumers are asking for larger
square footage, larger bedroom count and bedrooms downstairs.
They are taking the balance of the project and adding square
footage, adding a bedroom downstairs, increasing some other
livable square footage, and increasing the private open space. He
also described the details regarding massing and roof heights.
The Commission and MR. GARY CUNNINGHAM, architect,
discussed the setbacks on the sides and the rear. Chair Van Vliet
was concerned that the rear yards looked shallow. MR.
CUNNINGHAM stated there will be 11.7' on the interior lots and the
perimeters will be an average of 15.4'. He stated there will also be
a little private courtyard that will pull into the back yard. He said the
goal was to increase the livable square footage, bedroom count,
and at the same time achieve larger private open space.
The Commission and the architect discussed the breakup in the
roof plane, recess on the garage doors, the horizontal mullions, the
cornice detail, the slope rake detail on Plan 1 Building 100, privacy
issues in the back yards, and window patterns. The Commission
recommended that that garage doors be recessed to match the
existing product, to re-study the slope rake detail and window
patterns. They also had a discussion regarding on-site guest
parking which was previously approved. Commissioner McAuliffe
discussed the angled wall and eave detail and suggested reviewing
how the eave line works.
ACTION:
Commissioner McAuliffe moved to preliminarily approve subject to: 1)
garage doors must be recessed to match the existing product; 2) study the
sloped rake detail on Plan 1 Building 100; and, 3) re-study the window
patterns with a bar across the middle. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner Lambell and carried by an 8-0 vote, with Clark, Colombini,
Lambell, Levin, McAuliffe, Mclntosh, Van Vliet and Vuksic voting YES.
C. Miscellaneous Items:
None
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VI. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES UPDATE — Commissioner Vuksic — 1/13/16
The AIPP selected two artists to paint the traffic boxes at the intersection of
Portola Avenue and Fred Waring Drive; the Palm Desert Community Gallery
exhibit, Mandalas and Fragments, is now on display through April 8, 2016; Swing
`N Hops event on EI Paseo takes place on Saturday, February 6; the
Documentary Film Series is now underway through April 21 at the UCR Campus;
another All Valley Public Art meeting will be hosted by the City of Cathedral City;
an art show called "Open Book II" is on now display at College of the Desert.
VII. COMMENTS
None
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Clark moved to adjourn the Architectural Review Commission
meeti ng at 2:45 p.m.
TONY BAGA
PRINCIPAL PLANNER
SECRETARY
E JUD
C RDING SECRETARY
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