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Home My WebLink About2018-01-23 r, CITY OF PALM DESERT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 23, 2018, . I. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 12:30 p.m. II. ROLL CALL Commissioners Current Meeting Year to Date Present Absent Present Absent Chris Van Vliet, Chair X 2 Karel Lambe[[, Vice Chair X 2 Doug Brewer X 2 Allan Levin , X 2 Michael McAuliffe X 2 Jim McIntosh X 2 r John Vuksic X 2 Also Present Ryan Stendell, Director, Community Development Eric Ceja, Principal Planner Kevin Swartz, Associate Planner Nick Melloni, Assistant Planner Ron Moreno, Sr. Engineer/City Surveyor Janine Judy, Recording Secretary Cancelled meeting: III. .ORAL COMMUNICATIONS None IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: December 12, 2017 Action: Commissioner Levin moved to approve the December 12, 2017 meeting minutes with minor changes. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Lambell and carried by a 6-0-1 vote, with Lambe[[, Levin, McAuliffe, McIntosh, Van Vliet, and Vuksic voting YES and Brewer absent. ARCHITECTURAL REVic`W COMMISSION MINUTES January 23, 2018 V. CASES: A. Final Drawings: 1. CASE NO: SARC 18-0001 APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: WILDEST GREENS ORGANIC RESTAURANT, 72990 El Paseo #3, Palm Desert, CA 92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Consideration to approve a color change for six (6) existing awnings, addition.of awning signage and building color change; Wildest Greens Organic Restaurant. LOCATION: 72990 El Paseo #3 ZONE: 'P.C-(3) Mr. Nick Melloni, Assistant Planner, said this request is for a color change for the building fagade and six (6) existing awnings, lighting and signage for Wildest Greens Organic Restaurant that was previously occupied by the Clementine Cafe. The applicant received approval for a tenant improvement in October, 2017 and no structural changes were made. The applicant took the fabric off the existing awnings and changed the color, added new signage on the valance and body of four (4) awnings, and changed the color of the building stucco. As part of the permit, no exterior modifications were approved, however the applicant made changes without approval. Mr. Melloni presented google images of the previous awnings, stucco, and signage and presented photos of the revised changes. He stated that the color is relatively compatible and consistent with the majority of the center. Staff recommends approval of the changes with one minor modification to remove the four (4) lights above the Wildest Greens sign and the stucco refinished to match the existing on the south and east elevation. Commissioner McIntosh questioned the overspray of paint on the metal roof and suggested the applicant modify that. Mr: Melloni,pulled up the photos and stated there are sections where it appears that the previous paint color is coming through and looks patchy. He said the Commission could make a condition to touch up the paint and clean up the roof. Commissioner McIntosh pointed out the area where the old sign was removed and said there is poor execution in the combination of the overspray and not paying attention to the texture and removal of the old sign. Normally you would see a resurfacing of the fagade and making it look good. GAPlanning\Janine JAMRMI Minutes12019V 80123m1n.docz Page 2 of 5 ARCHITECTURAL REvi-W COMMISSION MINUTES January 23, 2018 Commissioner McAuliffe also pointed out the building address that is located directly below the lamps on the south and east facing elevations and said there is plenty of open space for the address to be centered on both sides. Mr. Eric Ceja, Principal Planner, said when it comes to addressing they will have to confirm with the Fire Department on exactly where addresses are located. ACTION: Commissioner Vuksic moved to approve subject to: 1) the four (4) lights above the Wildest Greens wall signs shall be removed and the stucco refinished to match existing; 2) touch-up stucco and paint in the areas where previous wall sign was located; and 3) address the over-spray on the roof so the roof color maintains a consistent look. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Levin and carried by a 6-0-1 vote, with Lambell, Levin, McAuliffe, McIntosh, Vuksic, and Van.Vliet voting YES and Brewer.absent. 1. CASE NO: SARC 18-0002 APPLICANT AND ADDRESS: T-MOBILE, 73495 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA'92260 NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Consideration to approve three (3) wall mounted wall signs; T-Mobile. LOCATION: 73495 Highway 111 ZONE: D.O. Downtown Core Commissioner Vuksic abstained from this project and left the room. Commissioner Brewed arrived at 12:50 p.m. Mr. Nick Melloni, Assistant Planner, presented a request from T-Mobile for three (3) new wall signs to be placed on the north, south, and west elevations. Each of the signs are proposed to be constructed in the same manner but vary in size by five square feet. He presented elevations to show the proposed locations. These signs are through-lit channel letters, with a white acrylic face, white returns and mounted on a 1/8-inch thick aluminum back panel that is painted magenta for T- Mobile's branding with a semi-gloss finish. The size of the sign will be 25.8 square feet, however on two elevations they are being reduced to comply with the sign program; facing Highway 111 and San Pablo at 25.8 square feet. Under the original sign program addendum for the El Paseo Square Center it calls out that all signage have individual, internally illuminated channel letters and mounted flush to the building fascia, however the sign is mounted onto a back panel. The design of the sign merits this exception to the sign program since it's not GAPIanning\JanineJud ARC\iMinutes\2018\180123min.do" Page 3 of 5 ARCHITECTURAL RE1rir-vV COMMISSION MINUTES January 23, 2018 technically called out as a specifically allowed sign. However, staff feels based on the reduced size it falls under the allowed square footage and the execution. The panel is low profile (unlike a raceway which would be prohibited), provides contrast for the signage and incorporates T- Mobile's corporate colors for branding in the signage design. Staff recommends approval as shown on the plans. Commissioner McIntosh said he remembers when this came in last year for approval of signs and the Commission discussed the composition of the signs on the front entry with two tenants sharing the same frontage and how that worked as a single composition. He said with the geometry of the building it is a huge mistake to have a back panel. This building has sloped, tapered and curved walls and is a real busy building and when you put a perfect rectangle on the building it seems out of place and doesn't really address the character of the building. Commissioner Lambell said this Commission has spent a lot of time on the sign program and feels if they start deviating from the sign program then where is the precedent. Commissioner McAuliffe said the opportunity with channel letters is that you can make them plumb even though the cant of the building is pulling away from the letters. Commissioner Levin said they could put the channel letters up and mount them on the building. Mr. Ceja said if they do individual channel letters they meet the sign program. Commissioner McIntosh said this Commission put a lot of thought into the sign program and this is a good example. Commissioner McIntosh moved to deny the applicant's request for a back panel and to follow the sign program. Commissioner Brewer made the second. Chair Van Vliet asked if there were any further comments. MR. ADRIAN CASTANEDA, BK Signs, had a discussion with the Commission regarding the cant of the letters. He explained they never do that and Commissioner McIntosh said this would be an opportunity to do it. MR. CASTANEDA explained that for engineering purposes the sign could still fall off. He asked for clarification on the sign program regarding trademarks. Mr. Ceja said most sign programs have standard language that allows national tenants to use their typical colors and doesn't allow for other exceptions like the backer panel. Commissioner Lambell said this Commission has spent a lot of time on the sign program for the El Paseo Square. She said signage locations for this building have been thought out thoroughly and backer panels are not allowed on this building. G:Tlanning'Janina JudyWRM1 Minuw\201V 80123min.dwx Page 4 of 5 ARCHITECTURAL REviEW COMMISSION MINUTES January 23, 2018 ACTION: Commissioner McIntosh moved to deny Case No. SARC 18-0002. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Brewer and carried by a 6-0-1 vote, with Brewer, Lambell, Levin, McAuliffe, McIntosh and Van Vliet voting YES and Vuksic absent. B. Preliminary Plans: None C. Miscellaneous Items: None VI. COMMENTS Mr. Swartz presented a slideshow regarding the El Paseo Retail Market Study for the Commission review. VII. ADJOURNMENT Commissioner Vuksic moved to adjourn the Architectural Review Commission �meeting at 2:15 p.m. ERIC CEJA PRINCIPAL 14JNNER SECRETARY kl-�W E JUbY R RDING SECRETARY GAPIanningWanineJudyWRC\iMinuwe$\2018\180123min.dmx Page 5 of 5