HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-16 Draft Minutes /"���� MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION
'�- , .
TUESDAY — JUNE 16, 2009
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * � * * * * * * * * *
1. CALL TO ORDER
Vice Chairperson Limont called the m ti to or 6:00 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Connor Li Vice
Sonia Camp r ' at 6:03)
N cy DeLuna
midt
Members Absent: Va nn ,
Staff Pre ` Lauri irec ommunity Development
�"'^ ave E , City Attorney
ony Ba , Principal Planner
evin Swa Assistant Planner
dr� z, Senior Code Officer
� Ton�� e, Administrative Secretary
III. �,� PLE F � GIANCE
.�
Commissi Sch led in the pledge of allegiance.
�
IV. �� MMARY�� COUNCIL ACTION
�
Ms. summarized pertinent May 21 and June 11, 2009 City Council
actiori
(Commissioner Campbell arrived).
V. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Request for consideration of the May 19, 2009 meeting minutes.
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 1642009
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Schmidt, approving the May 19, 2009 meeting minutes. Motion carried 4-0
(Chairperson Tanner was absent).
VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case Nos. PP/CUP 06-03 and TPM — GERALD FORD
BUSINESS PARK, LLC, Applicant
Request for approval of a first o ar ti xtension for a
precise plan / conditional us mit to con a 100,500
square foot business par a tentative p map to
subdivide a 6.1-acre si 13 parcels at 75- erald
Ford Drive.
B. Case No. PP 07-14— WILL NG, Applicant
Request for a a first, ear time extension for
the Jensen's S pi ter re I which included a
precise plan am ent exte remodel, and a
mi � ion to a i ' , uare foot retail center
. site d by Hig ay 111, Larkspur Lane
EI Pa . The odel includes three architectural
��_- lements 4 et in hei Project location: 73-547 - 73-613
way�� ��y � 1 La ur Lane, and 73-540 - 73-580 EI
n:
� It was d mmissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
\ Schmidt,� ovin - Consent Calendar by minute motion.
ommissio DeLuna asked for and received confirmation that Consent
` ndar B was the Jensen's Center asking for a one-year
c She asked if any thought had been given to phasing. For
insta � e parking lot is in deplorable condition. She asked if there was
a pos ility that they would phase that. Ms. Aylaian said yes. The
developer spoke to her and indicated that he would like a one-year
extension and has plans to come in and talk to staff about phasing, in
particular because he believed the parking lot needed to be addressed
sooner rather than later, whereas there isn't a high demand right now for
the gross leasable area. So he was looking at different ways he might
want to phase the project. Staff would similarly encourage him to finish the
2
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16� 2009
parking lot improvements. Commissioner DeLuna asked if that needed to
be stated in some way. Ms. Aylaian said no.
Vice Chair Limont noted that there was a motion and a second and called
for the vote. Motion carried 4-0 (Chairperson Tanner was absent).
VIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Anyone who challenges any hearing matt court may be limited to
raising only those issues he, she or so e raised at the public
hearing described herein, or in written resp` ;, ce delivered to the
Planning Commission at, or prior to, ublic hear .
A. Case No. CUP 05-02 — , , F PALM DESER , licant
ti�..
Request for revocation o � exis ' onditional use�ermit
which allowed a massage t tablishment in a 2,000
square foot of;' ite locate -875 Washington Street,
Suite E. Busin : Mei Ju ng.
Mr. Tony Bagato expl d th wa uesting that the
Planning ' sion re e , P (Conditional Use
Permit) ssage �� ` ishmen t 43-875 Washington
Stre ite E. e wer `-e,, o citations issued in May and the
bu is no I er in o' tion. Staff requested that it be
revok he fi revo � , the CUP were in the resolution
ith the �� �� o, no one would be able to apply
ass stablishmen re at this location for one year. He
� ask any tions.
/
��� There we���% o q ' ns. Vice Chair Limont o�ened the public
���� hearing a aske for any testimony in FAVOR of or in
PPOSITIO o the proposed revocation. There was no one and
public aring was closed. Vice Chair Limont asked for
C is omments.
�
Commi sioner Schmidt asked for and received confirmation on the
location of the use. There were no other questions or comments
and Vice Chair Limont asked for a motion.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner DeLuna, seconded by Commissioner
Schmidt, to accept the staff report and revoke CUP 05-02. Motion carried
4-0 (Chairperson Tanner was absent).
3
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16, 2009
It was moved by Commissioner DeLuna, seconded by Commissioner
Schmidt, adopting the findings and Planning Commission Resolution No.
2504, revoking Case No. CUP 05-02. Motion carried 4-0 (Chairperson
Tanner was absent).
B. Case No. CUP 07-02 — CITY OF PALM RT, Applicant
Request for revocation of an exis ' ` ' ional use permit
which allowed a massage thera stab ent in a 685
square foot office suite locat 74-350 A ndro Drive,
Suite B-4. Business Owner• e g Li. � y
�.
Mr. Kevin Swartz stated that� pril 16, , Tranquili " sage was
sold to Xiang Li by Jing Tao, pr owner who `` as granted
Conditional Use Permit 07-02 bac . uary 6, 2007. Mr. Li, the new
owner, submitted an, � ation for a it back in July of 2008 and had
his mother, Ms. Qia . as an e ee. During the background
process in July done h Depa t, Ms. Qiao was found to
have a conviction for d� alifyi�" uct."y e Ms. Qiao was a large
part of th ' ss, the li recommended denial. The
applica ' 'ed an � i remov his mother, Ms. Qiao, added
Ms. ca Dun , and bmitted the application. Throughout the
ap on perio s. Qiao` tinued to communicate with City staff
regar the a "i��� indic . that she was still a large part of the
�
usines ' , the City conducted an inspection and
taff nt and con ng business without an approved license.
Mr. Sw tate findings for revocation of CUP 07-02 could be made
`�� since the� ner not complied with Palm Desert Municipal Code
�\ Sections 5: 160 D, 5.90.010, and 5.87.030, which were all attached to
\� e staff rep He explained that if the revocation was approved, no new
ication Id be filed for a period of one year for the same use. Staff
re that the Planning Commission revoke CUP 07-02.
��
Commi sioner Campbell asked if Ms. Qiao was terminated or if she was
still in the facility. Mr. Swartz said they were no longer in the facility.
Commissioner Campbell asked who was operating it. Mr. Swartz said no
one at this time. Commissioner Campbell noted that they had a letter from
Dr. Shah saying that someone else is in the facility right now, a new tenant
with a business license. Ms. Aylaian stated that to her knowledge, they did
not have a business license for this address. She believed they were
licensed as a business at another location. They were not currently open
4
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16� 2009
for business at this location. Commissioner Campbell clarified they were
talking about Alessandro Drive. Ms. Aylaian said yes.
Referring to the letter from the Shah Family Trust, Commissioner
Campbell indicated that it said that the previous owner was terminated
from the lease and he has a new owner that has signed a lease for one
year and the new tenant has a business license ' alm Desert. She is in
the Palms to Pines mall, she's been there for years, and hasn't had
any problem with her Health massage ce ommissioner Campbell
asked if everyone had a copy of the le Commission answered
affirmatively.
Ms. Aylaian explained that when age establish are opened in
the city of Palm Desert, thr gs are required. need to be
licensed for land use (the c nal use mit), but th o need a
business license. That busines se � ifferent type o application,
different review process, with diffe ia required, so what they were
looking at was the I se elemen the conditional use permit. She
believed that the peo roposed ove into this location do have
a business license in th r� 'on wh hey do have a conditional
use permit; however, loca o h a stand-alone massage
establish ditiona e i . were closed and the City
moved ir con use pe it based upon certain criteria
and N ," n violati that wartz pointed out in his report. Because
this W e involves:' tand-alo assage establishment that the Planning
Com�' � n ex " � ncer bout recently, and because later on the
enda �� ' a moratorium on stand-alone massage
��, ; �.;.
, ' hm so that staf further analyze the impact that they have
on a forcement in the community, and so they can further
, analyze t t lance of business types and diversity of business
� types are e ci :� far as revenue streams. Staff thought it would be
�`�� inappropria� recommend keeping this stand alone CUP open and that
� was bette � use this opportunity to revoke the CUP and in the future if
morat is passed and the analysis is done on what is the
a r' umber and type of massage establishments to have in the
city, ey begin reviewing and issuing CUPs for them again, this issue
could addressed with other CUPs that might apply. So this really had
nothing to do with the business that is proposing to move in, the
revocation was based upon the violations that were against the business,
Tranquility Massage, which was operating in the premises in violation of
certain criteria spelled out in the Municipal Code for massage
establishments.
5
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16� 2009
Commissioner Campbeil asked when the business was closed. Ms.
Aylaian deferred the question to Code Officer Pedro Rodriguez. She
thought it was earlier this year.
Mr. Pedro Rodriguez, Senior Code Officer, said he had a list of
inspections they did at Tranquility Massage. He received information that
they were not supposed to be operating someti ; between January and
the middle of February. He did an inspection,�; e facility on March 11
and he found no one there. It was 6:30 p. one of the tenants next
door stated that they had just left for the bviously they were still
operating. He did another inspection `" ly t fter and did find a
Jessica Duncan working at the faci ' he was i a citation for not
having a valid therapy license. A � o weeks ago were supposed
to also be closed and he notic door was open an`� ; roached the
people that were there. Dr. Sf�' he new o. r, had hire� ntractor to
do a tenant improvement and n" . 'Idin � its were on fil for that, so
he shut the job down and issued ` k notice and that was the last
that they had contac them there: -. t was about three weeks ago.
Vice Chair Limont asK fo ' ' ation � the citation and that they
were definitely in violati f Pa rt c' Mr. Pedro said that was
correct. E rapist ul ' therapist license and this
particul id no therapi on two or three different
occa ' that we icense he first time was just a warning; the other
two'� were cit and afte��, is last citation that was issued, about a
mont o m they"" Id not obtain a license through the City,
o they d shut down and at that point they had
��be d that their e lishment was being revoked.
��
Commi er bell asked if Jessica Duncan had a license in another
location, eed have a license for this Alessandro location as well.
���� Mr. Rodrig explamed that Jessica Duncan was not connected to the
�� her locati hat was trying to move into this place; she was connected
to Tr ility Massage. The person trying to move in now has a
lic other location that is not transferable; they had to get a
sep ense for that location. It was another business.
Mr. Bagato clarified that Mr. Shah bought the property about a month ago.
They were in the process of revoking it, and there was an owner of
another location here in the city that was going to want to speak, they
bought the business rights, although the business wasn't operating. That's
why there was a little bit of confusion. They were trying to go into this
location, but the revocation was already in the process when they applied
for the business license. They were told that they weren't going to approve
6
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16�2009
the business license, they were actually trying to revoke the CUP because
of the problems they had with the previous business and getting them
licensed. They were supposed to be closed for a couple of months
because they were unlicensed and they were operating illegally. So that
was probably some of the confusion.
Vice Chair Limont asked for confirmation that ; . Bagato made them
aware of that at the time of application. Mr. B said that was correct,
and Dr. Shah and his attorney were here a Id want to speak. It was
kind of a separate thing, but they were t ' ve here because of the
existing CUP, although staff told the e trying to revoke it.
Commissioner DeLuna noted that ffect, the ere two separate
issues. Ms. Aylaian clarified that., was only one ; re the Planning
Commission, and that was wh or not the CUP sho`"' revoked for
Tranquility Massage based o , r repeate, �olations.
Vice Chair Limont opened the pub g and asked if anyone wished
to speak in FAVOR ' OPPOSI to the proposed revocation.
MR. TONY M. 3 rea n Road, #213 in Diamond
Bar, CA, 91765,� ted t epre s Ms. Deng, who is the
ne r who e this business for about
. re sh throug e transaction, she checked
the Ci o see � ,; ere would be any permitting issues. She
'��= as advise - y Claudr he City, that everything should be okay
�"� n th d a s , rent store called Health Systems on
,,�,
\�,� � �� `" en in operation since 2007. She was
info that it shou e pretty swift, pretty easy. Later on when
�� tri he couldn't renew the CUP. She ran into problems
� th ere have been several citations in the past, but this
°�� ha ead � n after she had already spent $14,000 into this
� busi , and he has spent about $4,000 in tenant improvements.
�� He � she is licensed to do massage therapy. Given that she has
�, s; ` a year lease with Dr. Shah, she is on the hook. On the one
� , it is $20,000, that's what she spent, and on the other hand,
ere is another year left on the lease. She has never operated a
business within this location; therefore, she would respectfully
request that no further CUP be denied with respect to this location
such that she could go in and conduct the business. And her
position is important, like Dr. Shah. It was Mr. Lu's understanding
that the center is presently only 50% occupied and he thought,
although he wasn't speaking on Dr. Shah's behalf, that it would be
in the landlord's interest to have a business establishment that is
7
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16. 2009
going to bring business. The business that she has, called Health
Systems, has been around for two years and never had any
problems whatsoever with the City.
Commissioner DeLuna pointed out that Mr. Lu talked about $4,000 that
Ms. Deng spent in tenant improvements. She asked if that was done with
the proper permits.
Mr. Lu said it wasn't really a T.I. Hi erstanding was that she
had to tear down certain items to ed, so she didn't really
construct T.I. per se. She had t e o the debris, existing
walls and things that were g repaire at was what the
$4,000 was for. Given tha � ran into the o e, she stopped
doing any further work.
Commissioner DeLuna asked if� � me '�'��I'�I er application or a license
to run a business from that locatio .
Mr. Lu answer e prese e.
Commissioner DeLuna d if onn ve been licensed at that
location.
�: " . Lu sta that has never operated a business in that
;,�:, cation.
��� ��;�,
5
�, �
-�:���, ��a �
ommis 'u� � .
�:;
: �..
Co 'one .,; hmidt asked for clarification that she is operating a
� busines sen , the Palms to Pines shopping center.
� �
� Mr. L idn't�know the name of the shopping center, but it's located
� at 72.' 5 Highway 111, Suite B-7; that's a different location and
, has operating since 2007.
�
Com � ner Schmidt asked if she wished to move from that location to
the ne ocation.
Mr. Lu said no, it would be a second location.
Commissioner Schmidt thanked him.
Commissioner Campbell clarified that she did sign a lease and purchased
the business.
8
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16� 2009
Mr. Lu said that was correct; $14,000 for the business and $4,000
for miscellaneous repairs, a security deposit of $1,500 and her
monthly rent he believed was $1,200. And she is current, despite
the fact that she is not running the business, she is still paying rent
because she didn't want to get into any contractual disputes.
Commissioner Campbell asked for confirmatio Ms. Deng didn't know
anything about the CUP until she came to t , "'"�
Mr. Lu said her understanding °" that' was going to go in
there to either renew it or ap ; r one un r name. She was
informed by the City that z; her track re� at the different
location, it would have b ery easy. At this tim :. had no idea
as to what may have"' e wrong - k then whe �y previous
owner was operating the �nes she had know , she would
not have entered into this a .
MR. GREG �� 74-090` aseo, stated that he is an
attorney repres� g , h Fa � rust, the owner of the real
properiy. He sai <.: t in ` s eLuna mentioned, there
are ues goi n.,: . Is and the new buyers have
' n wh er, inc ing the personnel as he
erstoo with tf� , arties that received the letter in April of
008, whic as 14 rrr " s ago, or the various actions taken by
,:�;,,,
D�"
e En in or� to protect and promote the city of Palm
� ���
at t ave is a new owner of the property as of about May 5,
� • th h Family Trust purchased the property from Jorge
��'���� an , na � uez, so they were no longer the owners of the
prop . And then they have a lease that was entered into as
°����� discu d by Ms. Deng, who has been operating, he believed from
���� the ' mation he received today that it is located next to the Von's
�� a ms to Pines, apparently without any issues whatsoever,
�� ing for a second location. This is not a new CUP. It was his
,
derstanding, and Counsel for the Dengs could correct him if he
was incorrect because he didn't represent them, but they also
purchased the name Tranquility, so the old entity or old owners are
gone, the name would remain, and that's where the CUP is located.
So they didn't have offending owners, employees, independent
contractors; he didn't know the previous folk, neither did the
Commission.
9
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16� 2009
They were looking to continue to have the business here in Paim
Desert and he thought one of the important issues, as he looked at
the agenda and what was discussed, and he thought there was a
slight perhaps play on words. One of the things they heard a few
minutes ago was something about a stand-alone entity such as this
massage parlor. But if they look at what is coming up, it is calling
for a one-year moratorium on the issu, e of conditional use
permits for independent massage e ments. That wasn't
necessarily stand-alone and he � ht that was a slight
misstatement that he thought was,' Obviously they have a
history, and a history here in Pal"� � ese ,:;,, 'ch he was sure was
important for them all.
Secondly, if they take t. `��n dependent, and if t re looking to
make a second entity, . are now, �ng from an` endent to
much more of a use th'� .; ain an independen . They now
have two entities owned me folks, so they would be
monitored at cations an in, there is some sort of history
as counsel ha d to the e thought that was important
for allowing the U tinue he thought it was not in
support and not c ary a t re ing the next agenda item
reg e one-
� "' ��.
Rath ��'���� n goin� to the xt agenda item, Vice Chair Limont asked
Mr. 'ian to ad s this ite nd summarize his comments.
;�.
�.� ,�4 � ,
�"�l a new owner as of May. He apologized
�:
to �i� rwin for mis ° Iling his last name. Secondly, they have a
te and a tenant that has a history with the City of Palm
were just wishing to continue the CUP with
� Tra ility.���:� bought the name, and he thought it was pretty
�� clea _ every ody they heard, including Code Enforcement, that
�� there no connection with the old entity that was cited and
� con '� d to be in violation through the early part of 2009. They
��� w ere to clean it up. Dr. Shah owns a number of properties, as
� ommissioners were well aware, on Fred Waring and Highway
1 here in Palm Desert. He has helped the real estate commercial
business down here, perhaps more than any other person in Palm
Desert. Dr. Shah believes in this area, continues to invest his work,
his construction, including his architect Narendra Patel, who does
top notch work. So there is not a chance that someone of this kind
of high end developer that we have here in the desert is going to do
anything contrary in the best interest of his building for property
values, which also assists his neighbors.
10
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16� 2009
Vice Chair Limont thanked him and asked if he had anything further that
would help with the decision making.
Mr. Swajian said as counsel he would be happy to answer any
questions regarding the property. He had the lease and the
document on the transfer of the property, verything was backed
up from the documentation he had her h was consistent with
Suresh Shah's communication to the e last day or so.
Commissioner DeLuna asked for cl tion t Mr. Swajian only
represented Mr. Shah and not Tra 'ty. He sp lot of time telling
them about Tranquility, but they actually not his t. She asked if
that was correct. ; '
Mr. Swajian said that was lut rect.
Commissioner DeLu nked him.
Mr. Swajian as , i were ther questions. There no
further questions. Swa ke Commission.
Vice C�. sked was an ne else wishing to speak in
:y9.:
FAV or in O ,; SITIO the proposed revocation.
�q.
�..
A�h
Befor � sing g q ' hean Mr. Erwin asked Mr. Rodriguez about
n reco ng the current applicant for this location.
' sue y . been broug p and he thought the Commission should
hea th bout it. Ms. Aylaian repeated the question for Mr.
� Rodrig aski r any history on the applicant for this location, on
�� Health S s, `�" - epresented they have a clean record here in the
�
city. `
� Pedro riguez, Senior Code Compliance Officer, stated that as of
la er when they started doing their monthly massage therapy
insp , they hadn't had any violations at the Health Systems over at
72-65 � -7. Every time they have been there, the facility has been clean,
sanitation has been adequate, licensed therapists, and they haven't had
any violations there at all. Everything was in complete compliance and
they do have records of their inspections there and there haven't been any
violations.
Vice Chair Limont said it was her understanding that at the time that the
applicant came in to apply for a CUP, that they were told we were in the
11
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16� 2009
process to revoke it. She asked if that was correct. Mr. Bagato's
understanding was they went to the Finance Department and spoke to
Claudia about a month ago and said that there is an existing conditional
use permit and they would like to come in and take over the business. At
the time, Claudia had not been part of the discussion staff had been
having with the City Attorney about revoking a couple of locations. He
thought from their discussion with the Financ, epartment that they
believed they could move forward and basica d of take over the old
business and operate it as a second locatio out two weeks later, they
came to speak to Planning about appr business license and
that's when Planning staff informed the at th . . ere in the process of
revoking it because of the issues wi e former b ss owner. And so
initially they talked to one depa and thought e hing was okay.
They were in discussion with ia's boss; however; dia was the
technician in Finance that wa' ware th, lanning was ry ; e process
of revoking the permit. So that' : re h ught some of f5 e confusion
came in. But when they came to P ey had already purchased the
business and were .. to actuall cess the tenant improvements,
when he denied the e tenan ovements (T.I.) because they
were revoking the CU t
Vice Chai t asked� r �`� �' °� that occurred. Mr. Bagato
said it hree go whe ey came and spoke to him
abou .I., bu y said�,;; y had met with Claudia about two weeks
pri speaking im. Vic `�°� air Limont noted that the letter said the
buildi s p Ma` , 2009. Mr. Bagato confirmed that Dr.
hah bo � � renovations, like repainting it, back in
� ut t siness owne o signed the lease with Shah was about
� four � a fore they came to Planning.
�
�!���� So at thi� , fo � specific business, Vice Chair Limont said they did
�%��not have a P in lace for this specific business. Mr. Bagato clarified
�at there i CUP, that's what they were asking to revoke, but as he
d bef conditional use permits run with the land and so they
w e in and basically take over and apply for a new business
licen work under the existing conditional use permit and work with
the exi ing conditions, the hours and limitations. So when they met with
Claudia, they thought they could just do that. So they weren't asking for a
new CUP, they were asking that we not revoke it so they can start a new
business under the existing one.
When she mentioned earlier that they might be dealing with two separate
issues, Commissioner DeLuna clarified that the only thing they were really
dealing with tonight was whether or not to revoke the existing CUP. Any
12
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16� 2009
other issue would have to come in separately. She asked if that was
correct. Mr. Bagato said technically no, because they were asking for
them not to revoke it because of their business application that they are
trying to process. So it is still one issue. They have an existing CUP that
staff is recommending be revoked and they are asking that it not to be
revoked so they can operate a business there as a new business owner.
Commissioner Schmidt asked for the date of plication for business
license on the new location. Mr. Bagato di ave that paper work. Mr.
Erwin interjected that they were using 'fferent terms here and
thought clarification would be helpful. ;:. nditi use permit is a land
use permit that runs with the land t's what hah is concerned
about. The operation of a mass usiness requir ree things: the
conditional use permit for the on, a massage est'�' ment permit,
which is run through the ess Lice Departme�" ' is not a
particular business license, it is ssa ablishment per it; and then
the massage therapist must also h dual permit. So they were kind
of mixing the condit' use permi massage establishment permit
and talking like it's a license. ot. It's another one that has
much more detail to it r busi license would. But there is
also a business license i ditio
Vice Ct�, �s�'` iterate ey wer� � st talking about the CUP that
goes '` the lan hich e s now and they were being requested to
rev ". =t this even` . Mr. E oncurred.
,��y j�
�, �,�� � ;
o clarif .�; ;°- out by Dr. Shah's attorney, Ms. Aylaian
' ed � ey do use t erm both independent and stand-alone. At
a st el t terms are used interchangeably. They were not referring
to the o shi whether or not an establishment is one of a chain, a
�: franchise; as�o : locations. They were referring to the fact, whether
� they called` tand lone or independent, that it only provides massage
�.� rvices. It ` ot part of a hotel and there are no other uses associated
� it. So apologized for any confusion that may have caused, both
o� and later when they talked about the moratorium. The
term , either stand alone or independent, just referred to the fact
that th e are no other secondary uses associated with that location.
Commissioner Schmidt asked if there was a secondary use on that
property. Ms. Aylaian said no. Commissioner Schmidt indicated this was
either a stand-alone and/or independent massage. Ms. Aylaian said yes.
If revoked, Vice Chair Limont asked if the new applicant would have to
come before Planning Commission. Ms. Aylaian explained that if the CUP
13
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16. 2009
was revoked, there could not be another application for a CUP for
massage at this location for one year. Any recourse that the other
business has would be a private issue between themselves and the
landlord or themselves and the people they bought the business from.
In response to Commissioner Schmidt's earlier question, Mr. Lu
stated that his client went to speak to Cla ' on Monday, May 12,
whereupon she got the okay that it s e okay. On May 13,
which was a Tuesday, she signe ease. And on May 14,
Wednesday, that's when she wen d tendered two checks
to the City; one in the amount of' an other in the amount
of $60. So it was Monday, T ay, Wedn from the 12t" to
the 14tn
Commissioner Schmidt aske t the che to the City or.
Mr. Lu said it was his und that it was for the business
license.
Commissioner Schmi sk � was e massage establishment
permit.
e wa ar. He 't think his client was really
r as to ; at she� paying for. She was asked to make out
� ��, o checks.:�� � she di ��. on May 14.
�
r. Ba re was for the massage establishment
tion��, se as the Ci = ttorney pointed out, and the other one was
for ine' ' ense. Commissioner Schmidt asked if she is a licensed
� massa rap
��
� Mr. L aid th t was correct.
\� missi DeLuna asked for clarification. The second time Mr. Lu got
u , e said that City employee Claudia said it was okay. The first
time� oke he just said there was just an indication that there was no
reason ot to proceed. That was a different perception and she wanted to
be clear that no one in the Finance Department said it was okay.
Based on his notes and his understanding, Claudia said it should
not be a problem. In fact, that his client was going to get this permit
pretty fast, pretty soon given her history. He believed those were
her words.
14
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16�2009
Commissioner DeLuna thanked him.
Commissioner Campbell asked if he had any idea when Dr. Shah
purchased the property.
Mr. Lu said that part he did not know.
Mr. Bagato said May 15, 2009.
Vice Chair Limont noted that the applic, for and gave the City
checks for a business license and a ma ` e p ;s while we were in the
process of possibly revoking the „ y . She as if there was just
miscommunication there or if i,"� s just becau ' was different
departments. Ms. Aylaian susp r that was the issue.- , departments
are in separate buildings a `�` : ey try t mmunicate� "� , but that
doesn't always happen, or inst eou ice Chair Limo t reiterated
that the applicant just went to th e Department and made out
checks. Ms. Aylaian at was he erstanding.
:;:�
Based on the issue of tw s, Co" �sioner DeLuna asked if the
conditional use permit wD" enie" . ke ;�. s. Deng had recourse to
try to rece' und on . m spent for a license or permit.
Mr. Ba Claudi � Iready i"' ed the refund; staff told them
to ref becau f this. missioner DeLuna asked for confirmation
tha were no t any m"'�, at this point. Mr. Bagato said not from
the Ci ide.
�:
/ hair nt closed th ublic hearing and asked if there were any
� furt ��m rom Commissioners.
'%�,� Commiss�� r De � understood that there was a bit of a complication,
������ but they we till trymg to deal with staff's request to revoke the CUP of a
rmer busi because of violations. She asked if that was correct. Ms.
ian sa� s.
��
In r that, Commissioner Schmidt said they totally got rid of any
opport ity for the new licensed massage therapist to operate under that
CUP. Ms. Aylaian said they preclude the opportunity for any businesses
to operate as a massage establishment at that location for one year. Any
subsequent massage use there would have to go through the public
hearing process again after a year.
Commissioner Campbell didn't think the new owner that signed the lease
with Dr. Shah, and it seemed to be all in that period of time from May 12,
15
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16. 2009
May 13, May 14 and May 15, that she should be penalized because of
what happened in that same location and she didn't think the CUP should
be revoked at this time. She didn't know and Dr. Shah didn't know
anything about the history of what was going on. They heard also that the
new tenant didn't have any problems whatsoever there in her present
location to go ahead and move into a new location. She seemed to go
ahead and was doing therapy and not just mass per se, but she is out
of the money. She didn't know anything about story of the location of
what was going on. Everybody was out a e was coming in with a
clean slate and the way business is no want to go ahead and
have everything leased as much as po e. lice would be in the
facility like they do right now, proba onthly, an ere was anything
that they find that's wrong, they ways revoke icense and the
CUP. But she thought at this ti hould not be revoke
Commissioner DeLuna said the s on they were c nsidering a
moratorium, and unfortunately, re some things that have
complicated this fro ' g a clear sue. Nonetheless, she thought
the issue before the not onl this issue, but subsequently,
was establishing a mo _ ri uch st lone or independent uses.
Unfortunately, even tho she a ith Commissioner Campbell
had said, ' 't think h ose for the revocation of the
CUP. ;
Co `. sioner Sc � dt asked� r. Erwin had some counsel for them. Mr.
Erwm�'�s; ' th� � efore em the staff report and the factual
ircums s left to the four of them.
��,:: �F
Vice 'r Li t y agreed with her fellow Commissioners. She thought it
was ho un ate for the massage therapist; however, according to
\� counsel, t UP ` with the land and she thought that was the issue
` ,\ before the missi n this evening. This was not clear cut, it wasn't easy,
`� d it wasn' t "we don't like stand alone massage parlors". That wasn't
`� directi ey were trying to take here. But it was a serious situation,
e this issue, so as much as she would like to say they could
be s ed out, she agreed with revoking the CUP. She asked if there
was a� otion.
Action:
Commissioner DeLuna moved that they support staff and revoke the CUP.
Commissioner Schmidt seconded the motion. Motion carried 3-1
(Commissioner Campbell voted no, Chairperson Tanner absent).
16
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16. 2009
It was moved by Commissioner DeLuna, seconded by Commissioner
Schmidt, adopting the findings and Planning Commission Resolution No.
2505, revoking Case No. CUP 07-02. Motion carried 3-1 (Commissioner
Campbell voted no, Chairperson Tanner absent).
It was noted that the Planning Commission was the final action on a
conditional use permit, but the decision was pealable to the City
Council, and the applicant may appeal.
C. Case No. ZOA 09-253— CITY O LM RT, Applicant
Request for a recomme n to the Cit uncil to
approve a clarification alm Desert Muni Code
Chapter 25.112, Exc ns Bas on Uncons ' nal
Takings.
Ms. Lauri Aylaian ex d that the i efore the Planning Commission
was a clarification o languag the Zoning Ordinance. This
language dealt with ci s � in whi applicant with a piece of
property they would like eve ' ves a strict application of the
Zoning O woul s nstitutional taking of their
propert ords, t . ieve tha ey would lose all economic
valu conomi nefit of property if the Zoning Ordinance is strictly
. ap , In instan like tha ey could apply for an exception to the
Zonin inan- 3 ar quired to put forth a certain amount of
' format te why they believe that an exception
to b nted in orde '�` them to be able to retain some beneficial
use cori use of their property.
�� She furtfi plai " at this was passed in 2005, and had not yet been
applied. St as going through a case now where they actually received
applicati for an exception, and as they were working on the case,
were ing with legal counsel, and the attorneys recommended
th i dification be made to clarify explicitly that the Planning
Com n has the ability to condition any exceptions that they approve.
Throug out the Zoning Ordinance, it is implicit that any request brought
before the Planning Commission does offer them the opportunity to place
conditions upon it. It is not administerial approval, it is discretionary. Our
attorneys recommended that we in this case say it explicitly in 25.112
which deals with the exceptions based upon unconstitutional takings.
Staff's recommendation was that language be inserted which clarifies that
the Planning Commission, upon granting an exception pursuant to this
17
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16� 2009
section, may limit the scope of the exception or impose conditions to
achieve to the extent reasonably feasible the objectives of the standard or
standards to which an exception is being granted, but without constituting
a taking of the property without just compensation.
Ms. Aylaian said that if they wanted an example, one of the ones they
would most likely see was an exception that act has been requested,
and that would be an exception to a prohibitio uilding on a ridge on
the hillside. If they could imagine, the hill '' s topographically varied.
Each parcel is different. It's difficult to m alizations because the
topography is so different from one p ` o a r, but if an applicant
wanted to build on their hillside par nd they fo that all the places
they thought were buildable wer . ally ridges ide by the Hillside
Ordinance, they could propos - an exception be gr so that they
could build on that ridge bec `` " if they c : n't, they wo'.., ot be able
to develop their property. If that� e be e Planning C� mission, it
was staff's belief that the Planning � sion already had the ability to,
and should be able ndition an tion so that, for instance, they
could say they coul : this po f the ridge, but not another.
They could tailor it to b y e hat pr , which staff believed was
the intention of the e `Y 'ng ' rdi e and was appropriate
discretion 'sion m g `'� 'ng Commission in order to
make a hat co to the in t of the standards for hillside
deve nt. Sh ked fo :: questions. She noted that there were a
co � f interest arties in T�, audience.
. ; I �`�,.
s. Ayl the Planning Commission received a
om eoni, O'Laug & Hechtman, attorneys representing the
app for ase she mentioned wherein this is the first application
they re d fo exception to the Hillside Ordinance. That letter was
d� distribute the � ission and if they had not had an opportunity to
���d�� read it, she omm� nded taking a minute to read through it to see their
����mments. mmission did so.)
�
Vi h ont oqened the public hearing, and referring to the Request
to cards, invited Mr. David Nelson to address the Planning
Commi sion.
MR. DAVID NELSON, 72-595 Beavertail Street in Palm Desert,
explained that he is the owner of a five-acre parcel on Upper Way
West, which as they knew, he has been trying to obtain approvals
on from the City to build a single-family home on the parcel for
about six and a half years now. He was at the meeting to oppose
the City's proposed amendment to Chapter 25.112. This chapter
18
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16. 2009
now allows property owners to apply for an exception application to
the zoning standards which, if applied to their property, would
create a taking of private property, which is prohibited by Federal
and State constitution. He understood that they received a copy of
his attorney's letter opposing this amendment. They found out only
on Friday that the City was considering this amendment.
On March 13, 2009, he applied for th ption application. His
application seeks exception to the g standards prohibiting
development on ridgelines and res d and building size. He
submitted the application, I e ' ed appraisal and
engineering analyses, which wed that se standards are
applied to his property, it sult in an unco tional taking of
his property. He would e able to develop operty to an
economically viable us
Under the existing Chapter e Planning Commission was
required to de ' e, based o evidence received, whether the
application of t " g stan to his properry would result in
an unconstituti f so, City could either buy his
property or exe his en these standards. The
pro 'th this p ent is that if the Planning
inds th oning s dards, if applied, would result
e takin , privat perty, it could impose new standards and
_. onditions "N the pro y. That made no sense to him. His
ptio `%�' ' n on ked whether the zoning standards that
h , ' ion of the development on the ridge and
the��� iction of the ilding pad result, if applied against his
��� e r a taking of the property. That is the only determination
ue. Planning Commission should not be allowed to
� im� ne � ��s� dards which are not existing zoning standards and
� have t bee� subject to any sort of public review and comment
� and e them on his property. That is impermissible spot zoning
�� and; s unfair and discriminatory against his property.
\�� elson's first request was for the Planning Commission to not
\ commend adoption of this proposed amendment, but if they do
choose to recommend this proposed amendment, he would then
request that it not be retroactively applied to his pending
application. His attorney's letter addressed why this amendment
should not apply retroactively to his property; and from his
perspective, it was simply unfair and unreasonable to continue to
change rules and regulations governing the application procedure
while people are in the midst of the application procedure and have
19
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16� 2009
in good faith relied on those procedures in pursuing the
development of their property. He asked that they please carefully
consider his request and thanked them for their time.
MR. BRUCE KUYKENDALL, 49-081 Sundrop Court in Palm
Desert, stated that he was present to represent himself, Dave
Baron, and their Barracuda LLC. They al wn a five-acre parcel
adjacent to Mr. Nelson's. They were represented by Mr.
Matteoni and they would be shortly fi ' eir exception as well. He
strongly felt that this was a co, of the taking of their
property that is unlawful. They ' d to n record with every
word that Mr. Nelson said to plied to th
There was no one else wishi speak. Vice Chair t closed the
public hearing and asked for ission c ents.
Commissioner DeLuna said she h stion to ask of one or both of
them. Was it their i to build on idgeline or was it their intent to
build somewhere on ?
With all due resp Mr. all he started back in 2002
wit cess. u us options. Their parcel was
'n the ` d there s roughly a 180-foot piece of
ridge t was le d off back in the 1960's right at the end of
� - e homest�'; ing of t properties. They've tried a pad there,
've ied. did receive Planning Commission
a p '�� V mmediately the City Council jumped on
� ���'���hat���'��. , ad three di��'"�ent City Council members tell him that he
Id uild on that property on their watch. At that point, Jean
� on s ey need to buy these gentlemen out if that was their
������i� they appr isals on t e property rlTheOy didt hat T ey put�up a
������ Tollin greement while the Hillside Ordinance was passed. After it
����� was sed, they received their Tolling Agreement unsigned and a
� rom the City that they were no longer interested in
�� asing their property.
They have jumped through hoops, they are filing their exception,
and they are paying for reports from appraisers and engineers.
They've tried every little piece on there to try to make it. He's a
grading contractor and has specialized in Palm Desert and hillside
development and helped the Planning Commission set a lot of the
standards that Bighorn had to adhere to. But then they went awry
and now they are paying the price for the Hagadone property and
20
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16. 2009
that project. The ridgeline that was drawn by the Planning
Department pretty much encompassed all of the buildable sites on
their property. It wasn't feasible to try to spend $250,000 to build a
10,000 square foot pad and they need a garage and a turnaround;
it was not feasible. They are turning in reports to show that and this
new amendment was just another continuation of the taking of their
property, just handcuffing them.
Commissioner DeLuna asked for clarific `"V hat the answer to her
question was that they are only interest ing on the ridgeline of
those lots.
y
Mr. Kuykendall said he wo ild any where ' feasible, it just
happened to be when ity Planning Depa t made their
ridgeline map, which � , blown topography what they
supplied them. They too a ' rker and prett much said
well, they can't go there, �" an't go over here, and so in
reference to ' cel, it mea couldn't even access it. So he
has a $2 mi , of pr that has no feasible use
whatsoever. Th�' ly e cou : was walk on it. Next door,
�::,
while all this was. ing o Ea ame in and demolished
60 d didn' : v ominent points or ridges that
t pose : ve. He s getting a little sidetracked,
right a s that inary property line and 30 feet from the
;x�,
ales office d he w�r"� oking at their maintenance facility, their
,;;�,
�,� hous � ��� �,a rs p � d, and right across that imaginary
p t anything.
���
Co 'one una said she could tell he was frustrated.
���
% Mr.- ��ken� aid very much so.
�� �
,���mmissio eLuna thanked him for his comments.
�
C is r Schmidt said that this is a recommendation to the City
Cou change the wording. That is their main goal this evening. She
moved at they do just that, recommend this change. She thought the
change clarified the existing ordinance and the intent of what is already
there and should be done. It was unfortunate, and she knew what they
were saying because she had heard it before a number of times, but their
assignment this evening was to recommend to Council a clarification of
somewhat vague language in the ordinance. She moved that they do that,
just the way it is written.
21
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16� 2009
Commissioner Campbell thought they could go ahead and propose to
Council to go ahead and change that amendment, but she thought these
two people should be exempt from this amendment.
Vice Chair Limont seconded Commissioner Schmidt's motion.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Schmidt, sec by Vice Chair Limont,
approving the findings as presented b ff. Motion carried 3-1
(Commissioner Campbell voted no.)
Ms. Aylaian noted that it sounded I' at motion, ond and approval
was for staff's recommendatio . Erwin concu Commissioner
Schmidt clarified that it her understandin at in the
recommendation, there was eference the Nelson uykendall
properties. Mr. Erwin said that corr ommissioner chmidt said
that was her intent. She wasn't c had the authority to exempt
anyone. That was h reason; s 'dn't think they had the authority
to exempt anyone oint. Chair Limont agreed with
Commissioner Schmi h oping helped to clarify, because
she knew this had bee diffi tio them, the City and the
Planning ' ion. Sh a s use for her at least, it helped
to say t " inal int cause th idgelines vary so greatly.
h�:
Co "` sioner C,; bell as the City Attorney if he wrote the
amen t. nsw yes. Commissioner Campbell stated
at she` �
.;
It w ve ommissioner Schmidt, seconded by Vice Chair Limont,
� adoptin nn�i ommission Resolution No. 2506, recommending to
� City Coun prov f Case No. ZOA 09-253. Motion carried 4-0.
\
IX. �� CELL US
�
A. �, uest for a recommendation to the City Council to adopt a
e-year moratorium on the issuance of conditional use
permits for independent massage establishments while long-
term regulatory strategies are studied.
Mr. Kevin Swartz stated that on May 19, 2009, the Planning Commission
requested that staff prepare a report and recommendation to the City
Council for a moratorium to be placed on conditional use permits for all
independent massage establishments for a period of one year while the
22
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16� 2009
City studies massage establishments. The Commissioners requested the
moratorium, and in light of the Police Department activity at massage
establishments because of illegal conduct and operating without an
approved license. In the report, staff outlined the reasons for the
moratorium and staff recommended that the Planning Commission
recommend to the City Council a moratorium be placed for one year while
staff studies the issue. He asked for any question
Commissioner Schmidt noted that it seeme e might be several CUPs
that were dormant and businesses that longer operating. She
asked if that was correct. Mr. Swartz st that ' cluded a chart in the
report; there were 19 approved CU nd those all active. Two of
them were in front of the Comm' today. If they 't get appealed
within 15 days, that number w rop down to 17. Ou e 19, 10 are
independent massage estab ents, 9 secondary massage
establishments. He confirmed are ` operation. C mmissioner
Schmidt reiterated that any CUP t een running with the land that
would house an � endent m e establishment was either
operational or non-ex re were UPs just sitting out there that
were issued to massa s ents t ere no longer in business.
Mr. Swartz concurred.
Commi na tho was wo noting that there if there are
19, 9; ich we ither in spas or hotef establishments, that putting
a orium on stand independent massage establishments
while stud , no who legitimately wanted a massage
ould b � able massage therapist.
��� � ;��.
Co 'one mpbell asked if any applicants currently in the
applica � roc would be exempt from this moratorium. Mr. Swartz
���� said that , cor � Mr. Bagato indicated that staff currently had no
����,��application ��
� �
missi DeLuna asked what the process was to move this on to the
C and if it was approval of the resolution. Mr. Erwin confirmed
that ng Commission's approval of the resolution would move it to
the Cit Council. It would be on a Council agenda. The way a moratorium
works, the Council could initiate it immediately. The immediate enactment
of it is good for 45 days. The Council, after a public hearing prior to the
end of the 45 days, could extend it for 10 and one half months. That's how
they got one year. Commissioner DeLuna stated that she would move to
approve the resolution moving it to the City Council.
23
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16. 2009
Vice Chair Limont asked if they needed a public hearing on this matter.
Mr. Erwin replied no. (Note: there was no one in the audience.)
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner DeLuna, seconded by Commissioner
Schmidt, recommending approval of a one-year moratorium. Vice Chair
Limont asked for discussion.
Commissioner Schmidt noted that ther s discussion regarding
independent versus stand alone and ask anguage was sufficient
to cover them all. Mr. Erwin said yes. miss Schmidt stated that
her second would stand. Vice Ch ' ' ont calle the vote. Motion
carried 4-0 (Chairperson Tanner sent).
_��
,.
It was moved by Commissi DeLuna �= conded byv`' ; missioner
Schmidt, adopting the findings a lan ommission R olution No.
2507, recommending to City Cou ion of a one-year moratorium
on issuance of c ' ' nal use its for independent massage
establishments while , regulat .: trategies are studied. Motion
carried 4-0 (Chairpers ,, an abse"
;�
�� .
�� �, ,
X. COMMI ING U� � S ��
.��
yy�.
A. RT IN PU C PLAC
� �;
'"' w� �m
ported that the next meeting would be
���//�i��,,,,����un
�
B. S COMMITTEE
���� �
������ Vice ir Limont summarized their discussion items.
'�� PA & RECREATION
���
��,, e.
D. PROJECT AREA 4 COMMITTEE
Commissioner Schmidt provided an update on their last meeting.
24
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 16, 2009
XI. COMMENTS
Staff and the Planning Commission discussed the July and August
meeting schedule. The Planning Commission canceled the July 7 and
August 18, 2009 meetings.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Commissioner DeLu ded by Commissioner
Schmidt, adjourning the meeting by m m Motion carried 4-0.
The meeting was adjourned at 7:22
.,�
�.
����qk
kt.
L ��PI!+� YLAIAN, Secr ary
,.� � �.,�i
„i�,
ATTEST:
M. CONNOR LIMONT, ' air
Palm Desert Plannin
�'
/tm :; ',�
,;,E
��� ��.��
�°�� ��a��e .
_�
�� ��
� � �:v
\
� ��\
\ \
25