HomeMy WebLinkAbout0903 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
September 3, 1974
MIDDLE SCHOOL - 7: 00 P.M.
I . CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting of the Palm Desert Planning Commission
was called to order by the Chairman at 7 : 05 P.M. on Septem-
ber 3, 1974, at the Palm Desert Middle School.
.. II . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
III . ROLL CALL
Present : Commissioners : CHUCK ASTON, JEAN BENSON, NOEL
BRUSH, JIM McPHERSON, HENRY CLARK
Absent : Commissioners : NONE
Others Present :
City Manager - Harvey L. Hurlburt
Director of Environmental Services - Paul A. Williams
City Attorney - Dave Erwin
Planning Assistant - Samuel G. Freed
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. The minutes of the Planning Commission meeting of August
12, 1974, were approved as submitted.
V. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - None
VI . The newly appointed Planning Commissioners were sworn into
office by City Manager , Harvey L. Hurlburt . The first Plan-
ning Commission of the City of Palm Desert consists of Com-
missioners C. Robert Hubbard, Ed Mullins, William R. Seidler,
Mary K. Van de Mark, S. Roy Wilson.
The new commissioners took their posts and the meeting was
turned over to them by the acting planning commission. Mr.
Hubbard was elected Chairman of this body. In his opening
speech he praised the Council for their hard work in the past
ten months and he hoped the new Planning Commission will do
as well. He stated the new Planning Commission has a hard
act to follow but with the excellent professional staff at
hand that will make their job a little easier. He also re-
lated to the public present that the new commissioners have
attended studies for the last three weeks. The new commis-
sioners will listen to all opponents and proponents and will
do their best to make sound opinions .
Commissioner Hubbard then asked for nominations for a Vice-
Chairman. Commissioner Mullins nominated William Seidler,
this was seconded by Commissioner Van de Mark. Commissioner
Wilson asked that nominations be closed. Vote was called
for
AYES : MULLIN, VAN DE MARK, WILSON, HUBBARD
ABSTAIN: SEIDLER
ROLL CALL
All new commissioners were present : Robert Hubbard, Ed
Mullins, William Seidler, Mary K. Van de Mark, Roy Wilson.
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VII . CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF PLANNING COMMISSION BY-LAWS
Adoption of Planning Commission Resolution No. 1.
Commissioner Seidler moved to approve and adopt the By-
Laws Resolution No. 1 , Commissioner Wilson seconded the
motion. The motion carried unanimously .
VIII . PUBLIC HEARING
A. Continued Case No. CUP-12-74-PD - SUMMERFIELD DEVELOP-
MENT CORP. - Request for conditional use permit for
142-unit condominium development to be located on approxi-
mately 20. 6 acres south of State Highway 111 , east of
Driftwood, north of Candlewood, and west of the City of
Indian Wells. (Continued from meeting of July 29, 1974. )
- R-l+ and R-3+. Applicant requests continuance to Plan-
ning Commission meeting of September 30, 1974.
Commissioner Van de Mark moved and Commissioner Wilson
seconded the motion to continue this hearing at the
Planning Commission meeting of September 30, 1974. The
motion was unanimously carried.
B. Case No. Change of Zone - 01-74-PD - H. F. AHMANSON &
COMPANY - Request for an amendment of the Palm Desert
Zoning Ordinance from Zone R-2-7000 (Multiple Family
Dwelling) to Zone C-P-S (Scenic Highway Commercial) on
approximately 12. 5 acres located at the northwest corner
of the intersection of State Highway 111 and Monterey
Avenue - R-2-7000.
Chairman Hubbard opened the public hearing and Mr. Williams
gave the Staff Report which included a recommendation for
tow approval.
Chairman Hubbard asked if there were any opponents to this
zone change.
Mr. Robert Ricciardi, 73-700 Highway 111, Palm Desert , spoke
against this zone change. He stated that he represented the
Citizens Advisory Committee, who are concerned with the prob-
lems of commercial rezoning. He stated that the Citizens
Advisory Committee felt no commercial rezoning should take
place until Palm Desert adopts a General Plan. As yet , he
stated, we do not have an adopted General Plan. He also
stated that everyone will try to get rezoning for their own
gains. The Citizens Advisory Committee voted unanimously
that there should be no rezoning until the overall commercial
area is studied. He asked for tabling of all commercial re-
zoning until a general plan is adopted. Mr. Ricciardi also
commented that the Citizens Advisory Committee is a hard work-
ing group and should be listened to. Mr . Ricciardi stated
that developers would all try to get rezoning if this were
passed.
Chairman Hubbard stated this rezoning is not an approval for
any development. It is being changed to conform to the Cove
Communities General Plan. If any developers want to build,
they would have to apply to the Planning Commission.
Mr. Ricciardi then stated again that the Planning Commission
should not go through with this until the general overall
plan was approved by the citizens of Palm Desert . This is
just a piece-meal type of development .
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Commissioner Seidler related that the change made to the Cove
Communities General Plan August 12, makes it necessary to
change the zoning.
Chairman Hubbard responded that the Planning Commission meet-
ing of Aug. 12, the Planning Commission approved an amendment
to the Cove Communities General Plan. In addition, the In-
terim Core Plan of Palm Desert was adopted by the last Plan-
ning Commission. Both show the property as being appropriate
wow for shopping center commercial development .
Chairman Hubbard asked if there were any other opponents,
there being none, he closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Mullins stated that the Citizens Advisory Com-
mittee did go on record to hold off on this, but he also
said it was the logical step to go forward as planned. He
stated this has been on the agenda for the General Plan re-
vision and there has been no one against it , it would be
advisable to go forward to change the zoning.
Commissioner Seidler stated that action taken to change the
Cove Communities General Plan made it necessary to review
the zone plan. This conforms to the General Plan, there
were no comments or opposition to this area as commercial.
Commissioner Van de Mark expressed concern about this prop-
erty cutting into adjacent R-1 property.
Mr. Williams explained that this was consistent with the
zoning along the property to the south and to the east .
Commissioner Seidler moved and Commissioner Wilson seconded
the motion to approve the rezoning by Resolution No. 2.
Resolution was read by Mr. Williams. The vote was as fol-
lows :
AYES: HUBBARD, MULLINS , SEIDLER, VAN DE MARK, WILSON
NOES: None
ABSENT : None
ABSTAIN: None
IX. OLD BUSINESS
A. Continued Case No. P.P. 1C - R. RICCIARDI , for MARKET
BASKET, INC. - Request for Plot Plan Approval for Mar-
ket Basket expansion - C-P-S. (Continued from July
29) 1974. )
Mr. Williams reported to the Commission on a meeting with
Market Basket representatives and with the master lease holder.
Staff recommended approval of the expansion subject to eleven
conditions. Mr. Williams then read the conditions. Condi-
tions 3 and 8 were not acceptable to Market Basket .
Chairman Hubbard asked for proponents for Market Basket .
Mr. Thomas A. Killeen, 407 Hillcrest Avenue , Placentia, real
estate management representing the applicant , spoke. He
stated he asked for a copy of Ordinance No. 38 which he
received and read. This ordinance covers underground util-
ities. He felt that they do not fall into this category as
they are not adding any buildings but just utilizing an ex-
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isting building. He also submitted new rendering of an
elevation plan for the front of Market Basket which was
not the same as previously presented. He also said the
front of Super X Drug store was not going to be remodeled,
just the front of the Market Basket . There would be no
change of existing lines or posts. He again mentioned
that he does not see where they come under the Ordinance
of relocating existing utility lines.
Commissioner Wilson suggested that the new plans and eleva-
tion go back to Staff for approval and recommendation.
City Attorney Dave Erwin stated that according to Ordinance
No. 38, they are not required to put the lines underground
as they do not fall in this category. If they did fall
under Ordinance No. 38, there would be no question whether
the undergrounding would have to occur.
Commissioner Van de Mark requested to know what would be in
the front of the Super X Drug store area.
Mr. Killeen replied that at this time they did not know, but
the back would be partitioned for storage and the front
would be established as retail business to blend in with the
center.
Mr. Williams suggested that they submit revised plans with
more detail with the front area as to the retail stores.
The Staff will re-evaluate the new plans and make their rec-
ommendations.
Commissioner Wilson moved and Commissioner Seidler seconded
that the applicant be asked to submit revised plans by Sep-
tember 16 at the Planning Commission meeting. The motion
was unanimously carried.
Mr. Bob Cragg, representing the master lessor of the Market
Basket area, stated they are trying to get the center to
look nicer but they have no funds allocated for sidewalks.
He asked the City to help with sidewalks as they have to put
in landscaping. They would like to put shops in the rear,
but Market Basket does not want the shops as it would hurt
the parking situation.
Chairman Hubbard inquired of Mr. Cragg as to a specific
lease regarding improvements , but Mr. Cragg replied they do
not have this type of lease with their tenants.
B. Case No. P.P. 1OMF - HAL CHAPLIN - Request for Plot Plan
approval to construct a duplex on the south side of Ave-
nue 44, just east of Monterey - R-2. (Continued from
August 12, 1974. )
Mr. Williams called for rendering to be displayed. Mr.
Williams pointed out the parking areas, and stated this con-
forms with zoning of R-2. Water and sewer were available
in the roadway.
Mr. Williams then read seven conditions this plan is subject
to, and added an eighth condition regarding trash cans be re-
located from present location on plan to at least 30 feet
from driveway entrance on Avenue 44.
Mr. Williams stated that this has no significant effect on
environmental pattern.
Commissioner Van de Mark suggested that the builder relocate
the dishwasher and add a pantry in the wasted space in the
kitchen. The builder agreed.
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Commissioner Wilson stated he was not in favor of this
type of building. He stated in his opinion this is not
compatible with the college buildings in the area, and
said that the cultural center is slated for that area.
He said the surroundings should be upgraded.
Commissioner Seidler agreed to some extent, but also
felt an obligation to the people who want to develop the
area and are conforming to the ordinances and are also
in conformity with the zoning regulations. He stated
this duplex will probably upgrade the area considerably
taw and we should evaluate this at this time and anything
that upgrades an area should be looked upon favorably.
Chairman Hubbard stated he is in favor of it and con-
siders it an upgrading for the college. He stated we
cannot hold people back until certain things go ahead.
He felt this certainly upgrades the area and is in
favor of it.
Commissioner Mullins moved and Commissioner Van de Mark
seconded the motion to approve Resolution No. 3 subject
to Staff' s previous seven conditions and also the new
condition number eight.
Vote was called for:
AYES: HUBBARD, MULLINS, SEIDLER, VAN DE MARK
NOES : WILSON
The motion was carried.
Chairman Hubbard with the concurrance of the Commission
continued the discussion of the Industrial Service Zone
UAW to the end of the meeting.
X. NEW BUSINESS
A. Case No. P.P. 30SF - CAROLE BROWNLEE - Request for
Plot Plan approval to permit construction of a
second single-family residence on a lot on the north
side of Alessandro, west of San Pasqual, R-2 .
This was recommended for approval by Staff, subject to
conditions.
Mr. Williams read the conditions.
Commissioner Seidler asked Mr. Williams if applicant had
agreed to the conditions. Staff did not hear from the
applicant and was not certain if applicant received a
copy of the conditions as they were mailed on Thursday
and did not know if they were received.
In view of the fact that the Commissioners were not sure
if the applicant knows and agrees to the conditions,
Commissioner Seidler moved and Commissioner Mullins
seconded that Case No. P.P. 30SF Carole Brownlee be con-
tinued to the next Planning Commission meeting. Motion
... unanimously carried.
IX. OLD BUSINESS (continued)
Chairman Hubbard returned to Old Business and continued
discussion of Proposed I-S (Industrial Service) Zone.
Mr. Williams stated this is in rough draft form. The
purpose of the Cove Communities General Plan is for an
area of service commercial. Staff wanted to know if
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they were going in the right direction. This has been
discussed with a number of people and there will probably
be a public hearing sometime in October. There will be
study sessions and further research on other similar
zones. It will be studied to see if anything has been
overlooked. Staff would prefer not to go through with it
and then find it not to be adequate.
Chairman Hubbard responded that he is well aware of the
need for commercial related type buildings for a City the
size of Palm Desert, but he did not think we need M-I
type of thing. He did not believe there was enough
demand for M-I
Many things should not be in this type of zoning and he
thought the buildings should all be attractive. No park-
ing in front - no loading docks. Parking should be in
the rear. He mentioned several types of businesses
that would not be compatible with this area, such as fruit
and vegetable packing firms, tanning firms, canneries,
etc. Chairman Hubbard said this should be studied
extensively in study sessions.
Chairman Hubbard asked for any speakers on this zone.
Mr. George Ritter, 73-899 Highway 111, spoke saying he
represented Frank Keenan, Sam Russell, Bob Green and
Cliff Swanson as principals in a 29 acre tract on Cook
Street which is supposed to be annexed to the City. He
stated that Palm Desert has more restrictions than the
County and he is in agreement that the County did not
adequately serve this community. He stated this is the
only area for the type of uses mentioned and it is needed
so that our people do not have to drive 10 to 15 miles
to get services that should be provided for in this
community. They must be put in our community. He stated
*AW that most contractors have no place to park their trucks
and so they park them in front of their homes. This area
needs many different types of services. He felt that the
landscape setup in the zone is not the only way to land-
scape. It should be scattered plantings instead of land-
scaping along property lines on 10 ft. strips. The plan
needs much study. Parking requirements are excessive
in the Ordinance, a 20o wasteful land usage. Parking
discussion is a must in the study sessions. In his
opinion, the Ordinance covers many things correctly.
Chairman Hubbard stated that the variance or conditional
use permit may be appropriate for a number of the uses
outlined in the draft report. He went on to indicate a
number of uses stated in the draft zone that he con-
sidered to be inappropriate. He indicated the purpose
of this statement was to give Staff some preliminary
direction and was of the opinion that this matter should
be discussed at a number of study sessions before any
hearing should be held on the matter. With concurrence
of the Commission, the matter was referred back to Staff.
XI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
XII. COMMENTS
Now
A. City Staff - None
B. City Attorney - None
C. Planning Commission - Commissioner Seidler said he
hoped people would bring proposals in to the
Commissioners in plenty of time as it is hard to
assess them at the last minute. The Planning
Commission, as well as the Staff, needs time in
evaluating the proposals. He also thanked the
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Council for staying and lending their physical
support.
Mayor Clark told the Commission they did a fine job. City
Attorney stated he is available to help the Planning
Commission at all times.
XIII. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Seidler moved and Commissioner Van de Mark
seconded the meeting be adjourned. The motion was unani-
mously carried. The meeting was adjourned at 8 : 57 P.M.
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PAUL A. WILLIAMS, Secretary
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ATTEST:
C. ROBERT HUBBARD, Chairman
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