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PLANNING COT.MMISSION MEETING
August 4 , 1975
City Hall Council Chambers
I . CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting of the Palm Desert Planning Commission
was called to order by the Vice Chairman at 7 : 01 on August 4,
1975 in the City Hall Council Chambers.
II . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
III . ROLL CALL
Present : Commissioners GEORGE BERKEY, ED MULLINS , S . ROY WILSON
Absent : Commissioners WILLIAM SEIDLER, MARY X. VAN DE !.MARK
(Excused Absences)
Others
Present : Paul Williams - Director of Environmental Services
Steve Fleshman - Associate Planner
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Commissioner Berkey moved, Commissioner :Mullins seconded
the motion to approve the minutes of June 30 , 1975 as
submitted. Motion carried unanimously.
B. Corrections to the minutes of July 14 , 1975 were outlined
by Steve Fleshman as follows :
Page 2 - Mrs . Valerie was changed to Mrs . Mallory
Page 3 - After the last sentence of paragraph 7 , the
following sentence was added :
The reason for Commissioner Wilson' s no vote was that he
felt the matter should be continued to allow the staff
to gather additional information and input from property
owners in the El Paseo area.
Page 4 - Paragraph 4 , second sentence was revised to
read as follows :
Motion carried 3-0 with Commissioner Nilson abstaining.
Commissioner Mullins moved, Commissioner Berkey seconded
the motion for approval of the minutes as amended. Motion
carried unanimously.
VI . WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - None
VII . PUBLIC HEARING
A. Case No. CUP-04-75 ELDON PROCK: Request to allow a small
animal veterinary hospital on a 1/4 acre parcel on the
north side of Highway 111 , between Monterey & San Marcos .
(C-P-S)
ern.
Vice Chairman Wilson explained the public hearing procedures
and opened the hearing.
Paul Williams introduced the case to the Commission ; and
Steve Fleshman presented the staff report . After Mr. Flesh-
man reviewed the plot plan , he outlined in detail the con-
ditions of approval. He summarized by advising that staff
recommended approval of this case by Resolution No. 66 subject
to the conditions as outlined.
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There being no questions from the Commissioners, Vice Chair-
man Wilson invited those who wished to speak in favor of the
project to the podium.
DR. ELDON PROCK, 1850 North Main Street , Salinas , California-
applicant , presented a colored rendering of the proposed veteri-
nary hospital . He emphasized that the structure would be built
so that everything would be totally enclosed, avoiding noise
and odor nuisance factors. The only time animals would be out-
side the facility would be when they were being brought to and
from the hospital .
Commissioner Berkey questioned whether there was a condition re-
garding the control of possible nuisance factors such as noise
and odor.
Mr. Williams indicated that a condition regarding noise and odor
nuisance factors was not presently included, but should be added
to the conditions of approval . He suggested that some measurable
level , in terms of the number of complaints received, be established
whereby the Commission would set the matter for hearing to de-
termine if the complaints were valid or invalid, in order to
justify remedial action.
Dr. Prock approved of such a condition. If any nuisances were
to arise, he assured the Commission he would take immediate
action. He added that he objected to conditions #16 & #17 .
At this time complaiance to these conditions would place a
financial burden upon him. Dr. Prock indicated that he would
gladly pay his share of the cost for undergrounding when the
entire area was to be undergrounded in the future. He felt
that paving the alley as stipulated in condition #18 would be
unfeasible. He again advised that he would gladly pay his share
when the entire area was to be blacktopped. Outside of these
two objections , he agreed to the remaining conditions.
%"W Commissioner Berkey commented that Condition #16 was a standard
provision.
Paul Williams added that the City Council had not established a
waiver procedure related to undergrounding at this time. The
matter would have to be appealed to the City Council , whereby
the City Council would give new direction or uphold the policy.
Vice Chairman Wilson then asked for comments against the project .
MR. THOMAS TEAKLER, 44-810 San Antonio Circle, Palm Desert spoke
against the project by relating to the Commission , his previous
experiences with regards to noise and odor violations when he
lived near an animal hospital in Orange County which resulted in
his moving. He was afraid the same situation would result again
and that a hospital of this nature did not belong near a resi-
dential area. He also added that several of his neighbors were
away for the summer, but he was certain they would be concerned
with the location of this veterinary clinic.
Dr. Prock emphasized that the animal hospital in Orange County
was probably built several years ago; and since then several
significant changes had occurred in -the construction of veterinary
hospitals so that nuisance factors would be totally alleviated.
OW He then explained in detail , the safety factors built into the
building to cut noise and alleviate odor.
MR. LLOYD MOUNT, with Walker & Lee in Palm Desert , spoke on be-
half of this project . He emphasized the environmental control
factors which were proposed to be built into the structure as
well as the type of clientelethat would be patronizing the
veterinary hospital.
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Mr. Teakler asked if there would be any recourse if it was determined
there was a sound problem.
Vice-Chairman Wilson advised that a condition would be added as previously
suggested by Mr. Williams that in case there was a violation , there
would be an appeal process.
Mr. Teakler stated he would not make an objection if such a condition
were added.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Berkey indicated that if this case were approved , the most
important condition would be the nuisance condition ; and how the matter
would be handled.
Paul Williams recommended that the Planning Commission consider the
following:
1 . That the DRB be directed to more carefully review plans in
this specific area to make certain that every possible
alternative in development of the construction of the
building is analyzed in an effort to minimize noise and
sound problems.
2 . That a condition be added that states if a complaint is
received, the life of the Conditional Use Permit is
revokable as a part of a Public Hearing, if it is deter-
mined that sufficient cause exists to create a nuisance
for the neighborhood.
Legally , the matter should be continued and the two conditions consider-
ea and written by the City Attorney.
Commissioner Mullins indicated that the Commission should definitely
add those two conditions as recommended by Mr. Williams. He felt it
was a beautiful building and was certain it would be an asset to the
neighborhood, but he was concerned with the nuisance factors.
After further discussion, it was the general consensus of the Com-
missioners that there was a need for additional input with regards to
the environmental concerns of this case. Commissioner Berkey moved
that this matter be continued to the August 28, 1975 Planning Com-
mission meeting, at which time the August 28 , 1975 Planning Commission
meeting, at which time the staff would submit appropriate nuisance con-
ditions to be added to the conditions of approval . Commissioner
Mullins seconded the motion which carried unanimously.
B. Case No. VARIANCE 06-75 DR. MARK WILLIAMSON: Request for a
variance from Section 18 . 12 of the Zoning Ordinance, parking;
for a reduction from 90 to 65 parking spaces for a 20, 000
square foot medical building on El Paseo , between Highway 111
and Portola Avenue. (C-P-S)
Paul Williams introduced the case to the Commission ; and Steve
Fleshman presented the staff report . Mr. Fleshman explained that sub-
sequent to the applicant ' s original request for variance, the struc-
ture was redesigned to 17, 750 square feet with 65 parking spaces . He
the proceeded to outline the background and justification for denial
of the original request and approval of the second request .
Mr. Fleshman cited several studies done on parking requirements for
medical/professional buildings done by The Planning Advisory Services ,
Community Builders Handbook, and the Urban Land Institute. He
indicated it should be noted that the standards as described were
arrived at by studying developments all across the country and the
driving habits were different in each region . Studies indicated that
parking lots conforming to the Urban Land Institute standards , nation-
wide, were full or overflowing less than 1% of the time the businesses
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were in operation . They also reported that parking lots should not
be designed for the maximum amount of cars that could be using the
lot . It was a much better use of land in an urban area to design
for the average usage of that area.
Staff recommended that this application be a guideline for future office
parking in the City. Also, the combination of medical and professional
offices was a good mixture in that both generated different types of
traffic and had very different turnover rates . After considering the
area and surrounding uses; Staff recommended the following revised
parking standards for medical , professional , and general office buildings .
1 . Medical Buildings - 5 parking spaces per 1 ,000 square
feet of gross leasable floor area, allowing the developer
to exclude stairways , elevators , landings , mechanical rooms ,
and a main lobby , with the total of the above not exceeding
15% of the gross floor area.
2. Professional Offices other than Medical : (Architects ,
Engineers, Law Offices, Accountants , etc. ) 3. 5 parking
spaces per 1 , 000 square feet of gross leasable floor
area allowing the developer to exclude stairways , elevators,
landings, mechanical rooms, and a main lobby, with the
total of the above not exceeding 157o of the gross floor
area.
3. General Offices - 4 . 0 parking spaces per 1 , 000 square
feet of gross leasable floor area allowing the developer
to exclude stairways, elevators , landings, mechanical
rooms , and a main lobby, with the total of the above not
exceeding 157o of the gross floor area.
The public hearing was opened.
FRANK GOODMAN, 77-900 Avenue of the States , Palm Desert , felt the
studies done by the Urban Land Institute were very important and
applicable to this case. He expressed an objection to the location
and enclosure of an incombustible trash enclosure, and based upon the
studies done, he felt the applicant met an intelligent criteria for
parking requirements as compared to other areas.
Paul Williams asked if Mr. Goodman found an objection to condition #19
regarding undergrounding. Mr. Goodman replied no.
ROBERT RICCIARDI , 73-700 Highway 111 , Palm Desert commented that this
public hearing was not the time and place to change or allow reduced
parking requirements which were presently in effect under the current
Zoning Ordinance. The parking requirements of this case should be
reviewed in light of the present Ordinance.
He felt the Planning Commission should not deviate from the current
Parking Ordinance until it had been property reviewed at Public Hearings
where the public could give their input after they had been notified.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Mullins advised that the Commission was faced with a
problem of adhereing to the Zoning Ordinance and to not grant a
variance for large amounts of parking. He felt a change was feasible
in the parking ordinance which would provide a better ratio based upon
these uses.
..+ Commissioner Berkey was pursuaded that the standards the staff had
suggested were more reasonable than the present standards. Under
those circumstances, he recommended an amendment to the current
Zoning Ordinance regarding parking requirements as soon as possible .
Vice Chairman Wilson was in agreement with Commissioner Berkey &
Commissioner Mullins. The parking requirements as proposed by staff
were more realistic. He felt this issue needed additional study,
appropriate public hearings and public input . He recommended that
staff take immediate action to study the proposed amendment to the
parking ordinance and to not start implementation until the new
standards of the ordinance had been established.
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Commissioner Berkey moved that the request for variance by Planning
Commission Resolution No. 66 be denied; and that the staff be
instructed to take immediate action to make recommendations for
modification to the present parking requirements in the Zoning
Ordinance so that the Commission could resolve the issue before
approving this variance. Commissioner Mullins seconded the motion
which carried unanimously.
C. Case No. VARIANCE 04-75 TERRY HILL: Request for a variance
from Section 18. 12 of the Zoning Ordinance, parking; for a
reduction from 20 spaces to 10 spaces for a commercial
building located on the south side of Palm Desert Drive ,
between Portola and San Luis Rey. (C-P-S)
Paul Williams introduced the case and advised that this item was
continued from the hearing of June 30, 1975 . Steve Fleshman presented
the staff report . Since the last hearing this request had been reviewed
at study session with the City Council in light of the city ' s recently
adopted Redevelopment Plan and was found to have unique circumstances .
As a result of the meeting, staff recommended approval of this
variance by Planning Commission Resolution No. 67 , subject to the
attached conditions, which he outlined in detail .
Vice Chairman Wilson opened the public hearing.
Mr. Ricciardi indicated he could not say whether or not the applicant
agreed with all the conditions , but he could say the applicant was
very interested in working with the city and hoped for approval of the
project .
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioners Berkey and Mullins agreed with staff ' s recommendations.
Commissioner Mullins moved that Resolution No. 67 with the attached 19
conditions be approved. Commissioner Berkey seconded the motion which
carried unanimously.
D. Amendments to Ordinance No. 72 : Proposal to amend certain
sections of Ordinance No. 72 relating to the procedures ,
jurisdiction and membership of the Design Review Board.
Paul Williams introduced the case and recommended that the Planning
Commission , after review, approve the proposed amendments by Resolution
No. 68 and recommend to the City Council that they amend Ordinance
No. 72 accordingly.
After a review of the proposed changes , Vice Chairman Wilson opened
the public hearing.
Robert Ricciardi thought all the changes as recommended were basically
very good. He felt the DRB should be in an advisory capacity to the
Planning Commission, which was the current role of the Palm Springs
DRB. He advised that an increase in membership to 7 would be very
beneficial , however, he objected to staff members on the DRB becoming
voting members. He felt it would be a conflict of interest .
Discussion then turned to allowing staff to approve single family
residences.
Mr. Lloyd Mount felt that the city was placing a tremendous burden
dw. on the builders due to the long time process involved in hearings
before their cases were approved.
He felt that if single family residence approval was left up to a
staff function to give guidelines , the builders would be much
happier.
The public hearing was then closed.
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A lengthy discussion then ensued regarding major changes to Ordinance
No. 72 and were agreed upon as follows :
1 . Designation of the two staff members as voting members .
2 . Making the Design Review Board completely advisory to
the Planning Commission and City Council .
3 . Allowing the staff to evaluate and approve single family
projects .
These changes would have the following ramifications :
1. Single family projects would be processed in less than
a week.
2. The DRB would be able to spend more time on larger, more
complex projects .
3. The increase in voting members would make it easier to
obtain a quorum.
4. By making the DRB advisory, the Planning Commission would
see multi-family projects and provide one more check point .
It also added six days to the application process , increased
staff load and would lengthen the Planning Commission
meetings.
Vice Chairman Wilson clarified that these items were not in force , but
were merely being recommended to the City Council for their consider-
ation.
Commissioner Berkey moved that Resolution No. 68 be approved recom-
mending the adoption of Ordinance No. 81 as revised to the City Council .
Commissioner Mullins seconded the motion which carried unanimously .
The Planning Commission meeting adjourned for a 10 minute break and
reconvened at 9 : 00 p.m.
VII . OLD BUSINESS - None
VIII . NEW BUSINESS
A. Tentative Parcel Map 6912 , ELDON PROCK: Request for
approval of a tentative parcel map and request for waiver
of final map.
Steve Fleshman recommended that the Commission confer with the appli-
cant at this time to determine whether he would like the parcel map
continued and if he does he must agree on the 15 day waiver of action.
Vice Chairman questioned if the applicant wanted to move ahead and
consider this request or continue the matter until the same meeting
as the Conditional Use Permit . The applicant wished to move head.
Mr. Lloyd Mount , representing the applicant , explained that the
applicant , in this case, was an estate. The reason the applicant
was applying for the parcel split was to take an existing subdivi-
sion and make a larger lot out of a smaller lot . Since the land
was vacant , they felt that the condition of undergrounding utilities
should be made a condition of the CUP for the 90' lot . Since the
lots were vacant , the city would have control over the development of
the westerly lot through obtaining a building permit . Therefore,
Mr. Mount requested a waiver of the undergrounding of utilities
required for the parcel map.
Steve Fleshman explained some of the parcel map requirements
which had been recently changed under the State Subdivision Map Act .
JACK GHORMLEY, 82-640 Highway 111 , Indio , engineer for the project ,
commented that he was familiar with the recent changes in the Map
Act that gave cities the authority to impose the same types of require-
ments on parcel maps. The Map Act did not state it was mandatory for
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the city to impose those requirements. The Map Act was modified to
give the city the right of authority to consider these conditions.
Steve Fleshman commented that the City Council had adopted Ordinance
No. 38 specifically stating that all new construction had to have its
utility lines undergrounded.
Jack Ghormley advised that the Planning Commission was dealing with a
parcel map that was unique in that the applicant was not requesting
additional parcels They were requesting the city to approve the
emergence of 2 parcels . He added that the existing parcel map require-
ments might not be appropriate when considering this application.
To the best of his knowledge the city had no definitive plans for
... undergrounding in that area. Economics would prove undergrounding to
be not feasible . He did not know exactly how the city intended to
underground this area. It would seem to be appropriate for the City
to impose upon Doctor Prock, the alternative of requiring his being
responsible for that part of the undergrounding which had to be done
in the future undergrounding program, but no more. He hoped that the
City Attorney, at the same time, would work up a condition for an
agreement to be entered into that would preclude Dr. Prock from posting
a bond and indicated that the doctor would agree to participate in
his share of the undergrounding.
After further discussion , Commissioner Mullins suggested that this
matter be continued until August 18.
Commissioner Berkey was sympathetic with the situation and felt that
the required improvements at this time were a little unreasonable.
As far as the undergrounding, he felt this was a pretty standard
condition. The estate would be required to post a bond on half of it .
Service lines would not be installed until there was development .
Discussion then ensued with regards to the undergrounding requirements
as specified in Ordinance No. 38. Vice Chairman Wilson was not sure
that the intent of the Ordinance was to include parcel maps.
Commissioner Berkey suggested that both the Conditional Use Permit and
the parcel map be considered at the same time. He felt the city was
perhaps too stringent on requirements of making lots larger.
Commissioner Mullins moved that the Commission continue this matter
until the meeting of August 18 , 1975 and that staff be directed to
work with the City Attorney to come up with the appropriate way of
handling this matter of undergrounding utilities in a land agreement .
Commissioner Berkey seconded the motion which carried unanimously.
B. Case No. 16C LASZLO SANDOR: Request for approval of a
11 , 900 square foot commercial/professional building at
the southeast corner of Sage Lane and Palm Desert Drive.
Steve Fleshman presented the staff report and outlined in detail the
conditions of approval , recommending that condition #13 be modified
to read that instead of a bond, all utility lines be undergrounded.
LASZLO SANDOR, 1500 S. Palm Canyon, Palm Springs, applicant , stated
he agreed with the conditions of approval with the exception of #13 .
Mr. Sandor state he would like to post a bond rather than having
undergrounding being required as a part of construction.
After a brief discussion, Commissioner Mullins moved that Planning
Commission Resolution No. 69 be approved, subject to the attached
13 conditions with condition #13 as originally worded. Commissioner
Berkey seconded the motion which carried unanimously.
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C. Request by Coachella Valley County Water Department to find
that a proposed water main extension on Fairway Drive is
in conformance with the Palm Desert General Plan.
Steve Fleshman recommended that the Planning Commission adopt
Resolution No. 70 finding that the proposed construction was in con-
formance with the General Plan and that the City Staff should be
directed to coordinate proposed road improvement on Fairway Drive with
the Coachella Valley County Water District .
Commissioner Mullins moved for approval of Resolution No 70. Commis-
sioner Berkey seconded the motion which was carried unanimously.
IX. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS
Steve Fleshman advised that Paul Williams had been elected the interim
Chairman and Frank Urrutia the Vice Chairman of the Design Review
Board; and that the changes as proposed in Ordinance No . 81 were dis-
cussed in detail at their last meeting.
X. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
XI . COMMENTS
A. Planning Commissioners - None
B. City Staff - None
XI . ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 10 : 24 p.m.
PAUL A. WILLIAMS, SECRETARY
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