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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION
September 2 , 1975
City Hall Council Chambers
I . CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting of the Palm Desert Planning Com-
mission was called to order by the Chairman at 7 : 03 p.m. on
September 2 , 1975 in the City Hall Council Chambers .
II . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
III . ROLL CALL
Present : Commissioners GEOR,GE BERKEY, ED MULLINS ,
WILLIAM SEIDLER, MARY VAN DE MARK, and
S . ROY WILSON
Others
Present : Steve Fleshman - Associate Planner
Sam Freed - Assistant Planner
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the meeting of August 18, 1975 will be
reviewed at the Planning Commission meeting of September 15, 1975 .
V. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
Steve Fleshman presented two letters recently received
which were as follows :
A. A letter from Al Cook of Robert H. Ricciardi & Assoc.
requesting that the Planning Commission assume juris-
diction, consider and take action on Case No. 17C,
applicant David Carmel , at the Planning Commission
Meeting of September 2 .
It was staff ' s recommendation that the Planning Commission
assume jurisdiction and consider the project on the basis that
any approval should include all of the conditions set forth in
Planning Commission Resolution No. 42 and Case No . 9C; plus a new
condition that made the approval contingent on a lot consolidation .
Justification was based upon :
1 . The applicant was not present at the Design Review
Board meeting of August 27, 1975.
2. Approval was given to a similar building.
3. The project conformed to all city , county and state
requirements.
Based upon the facts presented, staff recommended that this
item be included on the Agenda. The Commissioners had no objections;
and Chairman Seidler advised that the Commission would consider
this case as Item F under New Business .
B. A letter from Fred G. Rice regarding the "Portola
Del Sol" Development by Luria Development Company ,
requesting that the property on which this project
was to be built , be designated as a Planned Residential
zone with 5. 5 units per gross acre . This would be
consistent with their development plans . It was also
also their desire that the zoning map which would be
passed out during the public hearings would be con-
sistent with their proposed plans .
MINUTES -2- September 2 , 1975
Chairman Seidler directed Staff to write back that no
action would be taken to increase the density in that area.
Staff was to also inform Mr. Rice of the upcoming dates scheduled
for the public hearings on the Zoning Map and Zoning Ordinance.
The first meeting for the public hearing on the Zoning Map is
scheduled for November 3 , 1975.
VI . PUBLIC HEARING
A. Case No. CUP 1357 ENVIRONMENTAL DEVELOPMENT CO. : Request
low for a 12 month extension on the conditional use permit
covering the final 209 units for the Mountainback pro-
ject on the west side of Highway 74 , between Homestead
and Portola (Carriage Trail) .
Steve Fleshman advised that this case was continued from the
August 18, 1975 Planning Commission public hearing and presented the
staff report . Staff recommended that the Planning Commission approve
the 12 month extension by Resolution No. 75, subject to the attached
conditions .
Chairman Seidler asked if there had been any changes to the
conditions since the Commission ' s last review of the project .
Mr. Fleshman replied that the only condition modified since
the Commission ' s previous approval was condition #9. He then re-
ferred to a letter received from the Coachella Valley County Water
District requesting that Condition #9 be changed to require wet
sewers as a result of sewers now being available to the area.
SCOTT BIDDLE, representative of ENVIRONMENTAL DEVELOPMENT
COMPANY, 3848 Campus Drive, Newport Beach, California spoke in
favor of the project . He informed the Commission that he had
reviewed all the conditions and was willing to comply to all of
*MW them including the sewer hookup change to condition #9. He felt
this change would be most beneficial for both the City and the
Environmental Development Company. He then indicated he was
available to answer any questions the Commissioners or staff might
have.
There being no questions, Chairman Seidler closed the
public hearing.
Commissioner Van de Mark moved that Planning Commission
Resolution No. 75 be approved subject to the attached conditions .
Commissioner Mullins seconded the motion which carried unanimously.
VII . OLD BUSINESS - None
VIII . NEW BUSINESS
A. Case No. Tract 4442 ENVIRONMENTAL DEVELOPMENT CO. :
Request for a 12 month extension in which to file a
final map for the final phase of 209 units of the
Mountainback project on the west side of Highway 74 ,
between Homestead and Portola (Carriage Trail) .
Steve Fleshman advised that this case was continued in con-
boom junction with CUP 1357; and that the same background information
as the conditional use permit applied. It was staff ' s recommenda-
tion that the Planning Commission approve this map by Planning
Commission Resolution No. 76, subject to the attached conditions.
The condition of the sewer hookup as specified in the conditional
use permit also applied to the tract map . Other than the sewer
condition, no changes had been made to the original conditions
since the last approval .
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MINUTES -3- September 2 , 1975
Commissioner Mullins moved, Commissioner Berkey seconded
the motion to approve Planning Commission Resolution No. 76 sub-
ject to the attached conditions of approval. Motion carried
unanimously.
B. Request by the Coachella Valley County Water District
for Confirmation of Proposed Public Works for FY
1975-1976.
Steve Fleshman stated that staff recommended that the
tow Planning Commission approve Planning Commission Resolution No. 77
finding that the proposed public works projects within the Palm
Desert Sphere of Influence were in conformance with the Palm
Desert General Plan. The proposed public works projects were
as follows :
1 . They proposed to install 1 , 250 feet of 12 inch pipeline
in Highway 74 Frontage Road between El Paseo and Pitahaya Street .
2 . They propose to install 500 feet of 8 inch pipeline in
California Avenue between Well No. 563 and Virginia Avenue.
3. They propose to install 1 ,400 feet of 8 inch pipeline
in Fairway Drive between Deep Canyon Drive and Coronado Drive.
4. They proposed to install supervisory control equipment
and miscellaneous house laterals , Palm Desert and Rancho Mirage
areas.
Commissioner Berkey moved, Commissioner Mullins seconded
the motion to approve the Water District ' s proposed projects by
Planning Commission Resolution No. 71'. Motion carried unanimously.
C. Case No. 18C CURT DUNHAM: Request for plot plan
yr.s approval of a 14, 271 commercial/professional building
at the northwest corner of E1 Paseo and Sage Lane.
Steve Fleshman introduced the case and advised that staff
recommended that the Planning Commission approve this case by
Planning Commission Resolution No. 78, subject to the attached
conditions. After a review of the background of the case , Mr.
Fleshman reviewed each of the conditions of approval . During
his review of the conditions, changes were recommended for the
following conditions :
1 . Condition #8 was revised to read. . .
Applicant shall submit a drainage plan considering the
building site and adjacent properties to the Director
of Environmental Services for approval .
2 . Condition #12 was revised to read. . .
Roof mounted exhaust or air conditioning equipment
shall be screened from view.
3 . Condition #15 was corrected to read. . . .
.. The last sentence - Any future design shall not
include less than 57 spaces. (instead of 54)
MINUTES -4- September 2 , 1975
With regards to condition #15, staff felt that the
Director of Environmental Services working with the Redevelopment
Agency and other commercial groups could best develop a workable
plan for the precise design for parking on this block. Steve
Fleshman then reviewed the site plan for the project .
CURT DUNHAM, 71888 Vista Del Rio, Rancho Mirage, applicant
for the project commented with regard to the conditions of
approval . Referencing condition #3 , he advised the Commission
that plans had been submitted and approved by the Palm Desert
Property Onwers Association, so this condition had been complied
with. He also advised that condition #12 was being complied
with by the design of the building which was such that the parapets
surrounding the air conditioning units kept them well hidden
from view. He welcomed condition #15 which he felt was required
with foresight as to problems which may occur in the future. He
felt that if something were to be done, now was the time to ensure
parking problems might best be resolved.
Commissioner Van de Mark questioned the applicant as to
what type of development Mr. Dunham had proposed for the adjacent
property he owned, as it related to the 9 parking spaces in con-
junction with this case.
Mr. Dunham answered that at the present time , he had no
plans for the development of the adjacent property. At this
point he could not say that he wouldn ' t be back in a year or so
to request a variance on the parking requirements, but he felt
that the Commission should base their decision on the merits of
the presently proposed project which would greatly enhance the
City of Palm Desert .
After a brief discussion between the Commission and staff
regarding the conditions of approval , Commissioner Wilson moved
�... for approval of Planning Commission Resolution No. 78 with the
attached conditions as revised. Commissioner Berkey seconded the
motion which carried unanimously.
D. Case No. 10C, PALMS TO PINES , PHASE III : Request
for approval of theatre marquee .
Steve Fleshman reviewed the previous actions by the
Design Review Board and the Planning Commission which lead up
to the approval of the marquee signs for the three theatres
at the Palms to Pines , Phase III . He then reviewed the conditions
approved by the Design Review Board at their August 27, 1975
meeting when they reviewed the revised theatre marquee elevation
and site plans. The DRB did not establish the wattage or light
intensity factor for the sign. Mr. Fleshman suggested this may
be a factor for the Planning Commission to consider. He also
advised that the DRB had split their opinion on two suggestions.
These suggestions were :
1. Additional lights to be added around the wood frame
of the marquee sign .
2 . The base around the bottom of the marquee sign to
be in concrete. This suggestion was primarily
%NW for the benefit of maintenance.
Commissioner Van de Mark questioned policy with regards
to the intensity of the light . Steve Fleshman advised that
presently there were no ordinances in effect which determined
acceptable light intensity.
MINUTES -5- September 2 , 1975
BERNIE LEUNG, 73960 E1 Paseo, Palm Desert , project
architect , spoke on behalf of the applicant . He explained the
background as to how the design of the marquee sign was
developed and the materials and colors used. He advised the
Commission that the intensity of the light used in the marquee
sign would be very low and subdued. He added that it was the
developer ' s suggestion that the small lights be added around the
frame of the sign at a very low intensity, but would still add
rr.. emphasis to the sign. The Commissioners discussed the wattage
and height of the sign and then asked Mr. Leung what he thought
of the concrete base. Mr. Leung felt it was an excellent idea.
Chairman Seidler commented that several things were being
discussed that the Commission was not aware of
and they were not fully informed on such matters as
the relationship of the building to the sign , the base in concrete ,
the lights around the frame of the sign , the size of the panels ,
the size of the letters , and the intensity of the light . These
factors he felt should have been presented to the Commission
prior to their meeting so they had all the facts before approval .
He then asked Mr. Leung if a continuance of this sign approval
would have an effect or hold up Mr. Carver ' s project .
Mr. Leung replied that a continuance would be acceptable
as long as the Commission could give him concurrence that the
concept of the sign was designed on the right approach. At
present he said they had at least 26 different plans on the
design of the sign and would like to have concurrence on this
particular design.
After a brief discussion of the Commissioners discussing
their concerns as to the relationship of the sign to the buildings
from the west , and the lighting factor, Chairman Seidler advised
that Mr. Leung had taken the right approach. The Commission
would merely like a chance to review all the factors involved
before approving the sign with a resolution which needed to be
prepared.
Commissioner Mullins moved, Commissioner Van de Mark
seconded the motion to continue this case to Old Business
at the September 15, 1975 Planning Commission P,Ieeting. Motion
carried unanimously.
E . Case No. 14C TONI O'MALLEY: Request for approval
of signs.
Steve Fleshman presented the staff report and advised that
the applicant was requesting approval of the signage for the newly
remodeled Village Square . The signs presented were for the buildings
along San Pablo. This signage plan was reviewed and approved by
the Design Review Board at their meeting of August 27, 1975; subject
to eight conditions of approval .
JIM CONNOR, Mission Sign Company , 83-597 Peach St . , Indio,
representing the applicant , spoke in favor of the project . He
explained plans for proposed tennants , floor space , construction
of the building and the size of the sign proposed.
After some discussion , the Commission expressed their con-
cern with the total sign coverage proposed for the entire building
and for each tennant .
MINUTES -6- September 2, 1975
It was the concensus of the Commissioners that two
additional conditions be added.
9. Limit the number of signs for the buildings along
San Pablo to a maximum of seven (7) signs .
(Seven 10 ' signs per approximately every 20' )
10. The signs ' lettering and cabinets are to be
painted a dark brown color with an ivory background.
( Instead of the black and white as proposed by the
applicant . )
Mr. Connor found no objection to the change in color
of the signs.
By minute motion, Commissioner Wilson moved for approval of
the signs for the Toni O' Malley project as amended with the ten ( 10)
conditions of approval. Commissioner Van de Mark seconded the
motion which carried unanimously .
F. Case No. 17C DAVID CARMEL: Request that the Planning
Commission assume jurisdiction of Case No. 17C and
approve.
Steve Fleshman advised that it was staff ' s recommendation
that the Planning Commission assume jurisdiction and consider
the project ; and any approval should include all of the conditions
set forth in Planning Commission Resolution No. 42 and Case 9C with
the addition of a new condition that would make the approval con-
tingent upon a lot consolidation. These contingencies would be
outlined in Planning Commission Resolution No. 79 to be prepared
by staff.
ROBERT H. RICCIARDI , 73-700 Highway 111 , architect for the
project , reviewed the design concept and proposed landscaping for
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the building to be constructed.
The Commission asked for clarification on the DRB' s con-
tinuance of this case. Mr. Fleshman advised it was merely due to
the fact that the applicant was not present to answer questions
the DRB members had. Therefore , they continued the case until
further information was received. Since that meeting , the applicant
had submitted the additional information requested by the DRB; and
based upon that information , staff was recommending approval .
After a brief discussion , Commissioner Berkey moved that
the Commission approve Planning Commission Resolution No. 79 with
the attached conditions as outlined by Mr. Fleshman. Commissioner
Mullins seconded the motion which carried unanimously.
IX. EXECUTIVE SESSION ON PERSONNEL
This item was deferred to the last item on the Agenda.
X. SELECTION OF PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIRMAN
It was moved by Commissioner Mullins and seconded by
Commissioner Van de Mark that Chairman Seidler retain his
present position as Chairman and Commissioner Wilson retain his
position as Vice Chairman to the Planning Commission for another
Now term. Justification was based upon the outstanding job done
by both incumbents during their term in office. Motion carried
3-0 with Chairman Seidler and Commissioner Wilson abstaining.
XI . DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS
A. The Commissioners reviewed the cases heard by
the Design Review Board at its meeting of
August 27, 1975 during study session . There
were no items requested to be brought up for
discussion at this time .
XII . ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
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XIII . COMMENTS
A. City Staff - None
B. Planning Commissioners - None
IX. EXECUTIVE SESSION ON PERSONNEL
... The Planning Commission retired to Executive Session at
8 : 30 p.m. and concluded their session at 9: 30 p.m.
XIV. ADJOURNMENT
The Planning Commission meeting adjourned at 9 :40 p .m.
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