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MINUTES
ADJOURNED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
November 11 , 1975
7:00 p.m. - City Hall
I. CALL TO ORDER
The adjourned meeting of the Palm Desert Planning Commission was
called to order on November 11 , 1975 at 7:03 p.m. by the Chairman.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
III . ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners GEORGE BERKEY, ED MULLINS, WILLIAM SEIDLER,
MARY K. VAN DE MARK, S. ROY WILSON
Others
Present: Paul A. Williams - Director of Environmental Services
Steve Fleshman - Associate Planner
Sam Freed - Assistant Planner
IV. MINUTES
A. The minutes of the meeting of November 3, 1975 were scheduled
for review at the Planning Commission's November 18, 1975 meeting.
V. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
A. Petition from Ms. Rose Sweet regarding stop signs at Shadow
Mountain Drive and Tumbleweed Lane.
Paul Williams reviewed a petition received from Ms. Rose Sweet and
four other petitions residing at 73-219 Shadow Mountain Drive, which
was addressed to the Planning Commission. Their request for a
modification of the stop sign situation was reviewed by the City's
Traffic Advisory Committee on October 24, 1975; and after careful
consideration, it was the recommendation of the Traffic Committee that
the stop sign situation remain as it present was. However, they did
recommend a followup on line-of-sight adjustments to the landscaping
at the intersection. An inspection by the Planning Division staff
indicated that most of the difficulty existed because of the landscaping
at 73-219 Shadow Mountain Drive, a motel-apartment complex known as the
Twin Palms Lodge. It was staff's recommendation that the Planning
Commission direct staff to begin line-of-sight abatement measures in
cooperation with the property owners at 73-219 Shadow Mountain Drive.
It was also staff's recommendation that this matter be accepted as
information and forwarded to the City Council , since the Council was
the appropriate body to review traffic matters. The Planning Commission
concurred with staff's recommendations.
VI. PUBLIC HEARING - None
VII. OLD BUSINESS - None
VIII . NEW BUSINESS
Before reviewing the first item under New Business, Mr. Williams
recommended that it may be appropriate to hear these matters in
accordance to attendance; and suggested that the Commission begin
VAM• with a review of Item C, case No. 14C. The Commission concurred.
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VIII. NEW BUSINESS (continued)
A. Case No. 14C, VILLAGE BOOTLEGGER: Review of two on-site identification
signs for a liquor store located on the north side of Highway 111 ,
west of San Pablo.
Steve Fleshman presented the staff report. The applicant was requesting
approval of the construction plans for two business identification signs
for the Village Bootlegger Liquor Store. The first sign was illuminated
with an overall size of 26' x 4' to be located on the facia along
Highway 111 . The second sign was illuminated with an overall size of
4' x 5' to be located on the facia facing San Pablo. Both signs were
approved by the Design Review Board on October 21 , 1975, subject to eight
conditions. The applicant was advised at that time by the members of the
DRB that the large sign on Highway 111 , although legal at present,
might become non-conforming in a short while because of the new Sign
Ordinance proposed for the City. The applicant indicated he would be
more than happy to comply to any new standards that might be adopted, but
wished to retain the current design for maximum advertising purposes.
Staff, in Planning Commission Resolution No. 93, recommended that the
project be approved in that the signs did conform to the existing Sign
Ordinance.
The Planning Commission briefly discussed their concerns regarding the
size, color, and the signs' purpose in terms of identification versus
advertising. Chairman Seidler then asked if the applicant wished to
address the Commission.
TOM HINES, 73-460 Highway 111 , applicant for the project, commented on
the previous reviews by the DRB pertaining to the design and location
of his signs. He emphasized the need for a larger sign as he had identi-
fication problems due to the location of his store. It was his feeling
that the sign, as proposed, would attract people traveling both east and
west on Highway 111 . He further stated that he felt he had fully co-
operated with the DRB in an effort to have a sign which would be in good
tast for the City; and had sufficiently met all requirements specified
in the City's present Sign Ordinance in doing so.
Chairman Seidler stated that the Commission appreciated Mr. Hines'
effort in designing the sign.
Chairman Seidler advised that he didn't believe the applicant had had the
opportunity to sit through any prior Commission discussions on signage.
Historically, a very strong consideration of the Planning Commission had
been that a sign should be for identification purposes only. It was
the consensus of the Commission that their concern was not a question
of the makeup of the sign or the colors, but the size of the 26' sign.
Chairman Seidler welcomed any further comments Mr. Hines might have
regarding a reduction in the size of this sign.
Mr. Hines commented that with the location of the store and the identi-
fication problems he had experience, he needed this maximum amount of
signage.
After further discussion, rather than redesign the sign, it was the
consensus of the Commission that there was a problem with the size of
the 26' sign; and the applicant should be allowed additional time to
come up with a solution.
tow Commissioner Berkey moved that the matter be continued to December 2, 1975.
Commissioner Mullins seconded the motion which carried unanimously.
Chairman Seidler noted that the intent of the motion made was to indicate
there was a problem with the size of the sign. He also added that
further DRB approval was not necessary.
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B. Case No. C/Z 1974 - PAUL BOWIE: Review of proposed County change
of zone case to change a 10-acre and an 8-acre site from R-1-1 and
W-1 to W-2, located in the Cahuilla Hills area.
Paul Williams reviewed the staff report. He advised that the property
had been previously reviewed as a part of the Commission's discussions
on the recent General Plan Amendment which resulted in the establishment
of an Equestrian Center in the Cahuilla Hills area on the 10-acre parcel .
Regarding citizen input, the County Planning staff had forwarded a form
letter with signatures of approximately 40 residents of the Cahuilla
Hills area expressing problems which they felt might arise associated
with the boarding of horses. Mr. Williams advised that under the W-2
zone designation, the applicant would be required to obtain a Conditional
Use Permit to use the property as planned, thus providing the County
with greater control over project design and operation, than which existed
with the present zoning. A condition regulating health problems such as
odor and flies would be included as a condition of the CUP.
Commissioner Berkey noted that the Commission was not approving the
project, but was indicating approval of the General Plan Amendment
approving the proposed use for the 10-acre site.
Chairman Seidler asked for comments from the applicant.
PAUL BOWIE, 71-774 Chuckawalla, applicant for the project, addressed the
Commission. The specific reason he had requested a change of zone was
for the purpose of operating equestrian activities. Regarding the
complaints which had been lodged with the County, he stated he had
maintained horses within 330 feet of the proposed site for three years,
during which time he had received no official complaints of any of
the problems referred to in the letters from the Cahuilla Hills residents.
He felt the complaints that had been lodged were really not true in fact
and law. In summary, Mr. Bowie felt the establishment of an equestrian
center in this area would far exceed anything that had been done in the
Valley.
No other persons came forward to give testimony.
Commissioner Mullins moved that staff be directed to forward a letter to
the County Planning Commission indicating City approval of the General
Plan Amendment approving proposed use for the 10-acre site. Commissioner
Van de Mark seconded the motion which carried unanimously.
C. Review of Conformance of Proposed Sewer Line Extension on San
Luis Rey and Shadow Mountain Drive to the Palm Desert General Plan.
It was staff's recommendation that the Planning Commission approve
Resolution No. 93 indicating that the proposed sewer line extension was
in conformance with the Palm Desert General Plan. Commissioner Berkey
moved, Commissioner Mullins seconded the motion which carried unanimously.
D. Case No. Tract 5567-MERCURY ENTERPRISES: Request for a 12-month
time extension of a 326-unit Tentative Map covering 65 acres east
of Highway 74 and south of Homestead Road.
Paul Williams reviewed the Tentative Map approved shortly after incor-
poration by the Planning Commission and the City Council . Under the
provisions of the Map Act, the applicant was reaching a time when this
map would expire. Therefore, the applicant was asking for an extension
NOW of time on the Tentative Map so that he could file for a Final Map which
would allow construction of the total subdivision. After a review of
the Tentative Map, it was staff's recommendation that the Planning
Commission deny this request for extension by Planning Commission
Resolution No. 94. Justification was based upon:
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1 . The project presented several circulation problems that
needed to be more adequately addressed and would require
some modification to the Tentative Map.
2. The overall design including parking did not meet the
requirements of the new Zoning Ordinance; and therefore,
the CUP would become invalid with the adoption of the
new Zoning Ordinance.
Staff found no evidence to indicate an extension of Tentative Tract 5567
should be granted, even though the project was within the scope of the
Palm Desert General Plan, as the adoption of the new Zoning Ordinance
would require significant modifications to this project. Staff felt
that a more appropriate design within the range of 5 dwelling units
per acre and conforming to the new Zoning Ordinance was in order for
this project.
After discussion by the Commission, Chairman Seidler asked for comments
from the applicant.
ED WRIGHT, 71-430 Halgar, Rancho Mirage, represented the applicant.
He indicated that it was his understanding that the initial City approval
of the subject Tentative Map would expire on December 13, 1973; and that
the Conditional Use Permit for this Tract was in effect until July 24, 1977.
Adverse financial and market conditions had caused delays in the commence-
ment of subdivision maps and construction since these approvals were
granted. In light of recent improvements in these areas, Mercury Enter-
prises was now planning to go ahead with this project in the near future.
Mr. Wright then outlined the parking breakdown and indicated he saw no
problem with the parking deficiency based upon the fact that more people
did not utilized their carports. Based upon the design and layout of
the parking provided, he felt there would be no problems with either
parking or circulation. For these reasons, therefore, he recommended
that the Commission not deny this application for an extention of the
Tentative Map at this time.
�... After further discussion, it was the general consensus of the Commission
that based upon the problem areas including deficient parking, circulation,
relationship of parking to units and impact of the development on Highway
74, the Commission had no other alternative but to accept staff' s recom-
mendation to deny the extension.
Commissioner Wilson moved, Commissioner Berkey seconded the motion to
approve Planning Commission Resolution No. 94 denying the extension
of time for Tentative Tract 5567. Motion carried unanimously.
E. Case No. 21C-TONI O'MALLEY: Consideration of a plot plan approval
for a one story office building on the east side of Las Palmas
Avenue and north of Highway 111 .
Steve Fleshman presented the staff report. The proposed office project
represented a continuation of the commercial development of the O'Malley
property located north of Highway 111 , between San Pablo and Las Palmas.
The site was bounded on the north and west by developed multi-family
residential projects and on the south and east by commercial related
uses. Staff regarded the proposed office building use as an appropriate
buffer, separating the residential and commercial areas.
This matter was reviewed by the DRB and approved subject to the 16
conditions of approval attached to Planning Commission Resolution No. 95,
law which staff was recommending for approval by the Planning Commission.
After a review by the Commission of the conditions and plot plan, the
Commission recommended the following changes:
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Condition #5 was revised to read. . .
5. All utility services lines shall be placed underground.
Condition #7 was revised to read. . .
7. Landscaping (with irrigation system) shall be provided as
approved by the Design Review Board for installation prior
to final inspections.
Commissioner Mullins moved, Commissioner Van de Mark seconded the motion
to approve Planning Commission Resolution No. 95, subject to the attached
16 conditions as amended. Motion carried unanimously.
F. Case No. IOC ROY CARVER: Consideration of an appeal of the DRB
rejection of the landscape plan for Phase III of the Palms-to-Pines
Shopping Center.
Steve Fleshman presented the staff report. This was a request that the
Planning Commission assume jurisdiction of the landscape plan for Palms-
to-Pines, Phase III as the Design Review Board had been unable to render
a decision.
The landscape plan to be reviewed by the Commission was the fourth re-
vision which had been reviewed by staff once and the DRB twice. Staff
felt the landscaping proposed was compatible with the existing landscaping
of Phase I and II; and when completed would be an asset to the appearance
of the overall development.
Steve Fleshman proceeded to review the changes that were incorporated
in the fourth revision of the landscape plan.
Staff recommended approval of the landscape plan by Planning Commission
Resolution No. 96 with the justification based upon:
1 . The plan conformed to the requirements of the City of Palm
Desert.
2. The revised plan met the intent and concerns expressed by
the DRB.
Commissioner Berkey asked the applicant to comment on proposed land-
scaping for the north side of the theatre building.
BILL CARVER, 120 W. Las Tunas, San Gabriel , applicant for the project,
described in detail the landscaping proposed for the north side of the
complex; and briefly reviewed the overall landscape theme.
Commissioner Van de Mark moved, Commissioner Mullins seconded the
motion to approve Planning Commission Resolution No. 96. Motion was
carried unanimously.
IX. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS
A. October 7, 1975 Meeting: The Commission expressed its concern with
the fact that no action had taken place at the October 7 or the
October 21 meeting to elect a new Chairman for the DRB.
Mr. Fleshman replied that the new Ordinance No. 81 was not in
effect until this week, which included a change in the DRB
membership. The election of a new Chairman would be scheduled
for the November 25 meeting of the DRB.
B. October 21 , 1975 Meeting: As an editorial note, Chairman Seidler
suggested that the DRB minutes be expanded to give a more thorough
description of the cases being heard in addition to the case number.
Regarding No. VI, Case No. 10C (5), Commissioner Berkey felt that
such concerns should be more specifically expressed.
C. October 28, 1975 Meeting: No minutes were submitted at this time,
as the DRB reviewed the-development standards which were to be
forwarded to the Commission for review prior to the December 2,
meeting.
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X. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Bill Carver, on behalf of himself and tenants of the El Paseo Square,
asked for the Commission's suggestions relative to signs which were
now obscured from view from Highway 111 for various stores as a result
of the location of the Tiebreaker Restaurant and the Kentucky Fried
Chicken building. The tenants of El Paseo Square which were affected,
felt a directory sign might be appropriate since they had a very
definite identification problem. Chairman Seidler commented that if
these tenants had any ideas on how to alleviate this problem, the
Commission would be glad to review their proposal .
XI. COMMENTS
A. City Staff - None
B. City Attorney - None
C. Planning Commission - None
XII . ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Van de Mark moved, Chairman Seidler seconded the motion
to adjourn the meeting at 9:10 p.m. Motion was carried unanimously.
JA L .AWILLIAMS, SECRETARY
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