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Home My WebLink About0316 MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSTON MEETING MARCH 16, 1976 7 p.m. - CTTY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS I. CALL TO ORDER The regular meeting of the Palm Desert Planning Commission was called to order by Vice Chairman Wilson at 7:04 p.m. , March 16, 1976, in the City Hall Council Chambers II . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ■.�. III . ROLL CALL Present: Commissioners GEORGE BERKEY, MARY K. VAN DE P�ARK, and S. ROY WILSON Others Present: Paul A. Williams - Director of Environmental Services Steve Fleshman - Associate Planner Sam Freed - Assistant Planner IV. SELECTION OF NEW OFFICERS Paul Williams suggested that Vice Chairman Wilson continue as acting Chairman until the City Council appoints the two new commissioners. Commissioner Berkey nominated S. Roy Wilson for Chairman but stated he would defer his nomination until the new commissioners were appointed. Commissioner Van de Mark felt that Commissioner Berkey should make his nomination at this time, leaving the Vice-Chairman position open. Vice Chairman LJilson thought it would be more � appropriate to wait for the appointment of the new commissioners. Commissioner Berkey agreed with Commissioner Van de Mark and again made a motion to appoint S. Roy Wilsom as Chairman of the Palm Desert Planning Commission. Commissioner Van de Mark seconded the motion. Motion carried with Commissioner Berkey' s and Commissioner Van de Mark's vote. Vice Chairman Wilson abstained. Paul Williams stated Chairman Wilson' s term would expire on September 14, 1976, at which time new officers would be selected. V. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A. Corrections were made to the minutes of the March 3, 1976, meeting as follows: Under Continued Case No. CUP 01-76, Chairman Wilson asked that the word not be deleted from the last line of Paragraph #4 on Page #3. Chairman Wilson asked that the last sentence of Paragraph #6 on Page #4, under Case No. CUP 03-76, be rewritten as the way it was worded could be misleading. The rewording should be as follows: He also stressed his concern over the problem � of traffic congestion on Portola Avenue. Further, he agreed wi th f�lr. Post that i f Shadow P�1ountai n Dri ve was used for an entrance and an exit, that rezoning could possible be considered as another action at another time. Commissioner Berkey asked for clarification of the last three paragraphs on Page #4, under Case No. CUP 03-76. These para- graphs shall be revised to read as follows: "Chairman Seidler asked the commissioners their feelings reference the above project. They all favored leaving an entrance and an exit on Shadow Mountain Drive, and an entrance only on Portola Avenue." MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 16, 1976 APPROVAL OF MINUTES, Continued '"t�r. Williams explained that an entrance only on the Portola Avenue side of the project could require a different design for the parking lot." "Commissioner Berkey made a motion to approve Planning �"" Commission Resolution No. 124, subject to the ten (10) Conditions of Approval , which were amended to provide for an entrance only on Portola Avenue, and an entrance and an exit on Shadow Mountain Drive. Commissioner Mullins seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously. " Reference Page #5, Paragraph #2 (Continued Case No. Subdi- vision Ordinance) , Chairman Wilson asked that the last word on the second line be changed to read one as opposed to �wo. At the end of Page #7, after S. Roy Wilson, Vice Chairman should be changed to read Chairman. Commissioner Berkey made a motion to approve the minutes of the March 3, 1976, meeting as amended. Chairman Wilson seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously. VI. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - None VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS - None VIII. OLD BUSINESS '� A. Joint Study Session between the Planning Commission and the Chamber of Commerce Sign Committee to disucss signage philosophy. Chairman Wilson welcomed Elmer Huling and Herb Powers, two members of the Chamber of Commerce Sign Committee. Chairman Wilson further commented that the Planning Commission was impressed and pleased with the quality of work and the amount of time the Sign Committee spent on the ideas for the Sign Ordinance. Paul Williams stated that the other members of the Committee were not present due to illness and/or being out of town; but that he had spoken with several of them and they were in agreement with the proposed changes, additions, and deletions. Mr. Williams also stated that rather than attempting to describe the document, since everyone was familiar with it, the Commission should begin their discussion. Mr. Williams pointed out that two of the major items to be discussed should be Section 25.38- 15.08 (Sale Sign) and Section 25.38-18.05 (Removal & Amortization Period). Chairman Wilson asked for comments and/or objections to the changes as provided on the list submitted to the Commission by Mr. Williams. � There was a lengthy discussion reference the above with the changes being as follows: -2- MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MARCH 16, 1976 VIII . OLD BUSINESS, continued Section 25.38-1 Intent and Purpose Second sentence should be reworded as follows: "This article is also intended to provide for a more orderly presentation of advertising displays. . . � Section 25.38-2.01 Sign Change the word advertising on the third line to read identification. Section 25.38-2.04 Area of Sign Add - Area of Sign shall be at beginning Add a period after is placed. Delete - provided that Section 25.38-2.20 Wall Sign Replace not exceeding above the roof line with not extending above the eaveline. Section 25.38-5 Abatement of Illegal Sign Everyone agreed that even though this section was redundant, it should be left in the Sign Ordinance for clarification purposes. Section 25.38-13.01 Realty Signs �.. After a lengthy discussion, it was decided to leave this section as it was originally written. Mr. Powers felt that if the Board of Realtors was aware of this section of the ordinance, they would more than likely act as a self- enforcing unit. Section 25.38-13.03 O�en House Sign Delete not to exceed three (3) days during any seven day period and. Section 25.38-13.04 Signs for Sp,ecial Events Delete for a maximum of two (2) calendar days er week with not more than 1 time er ca endar year. Sections 25.38-14.01 (Si n Area-Hotels & A artments) and 25.38-14.07 Sale and Rental Signs These sections were discussed and it was a general agreement to leave these sections in the draft ordinance as written. Section 25.38-15.08 Sale Si�ns � This section was rewritten as follows: . . .a sale sign shall be allowed as long as it is not attached to the window. Section 25.38-15.11 Gasoline Servic� Stations Revise Subsection (1) to One double-faced free standin monument si n not to exceed twent -four 4 s uare feet in area of ei ht �8 feet in height and advertisin� only the name of the company. -3- MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MARCH 16, 1976 VTII . OLD BUSTNESS, continued Section 25.38-16.02 Sign Review Criteria Replace be submit to with to utilize. : Section 25.38-16.06 Color of Signs �... Change the title to read: Number of Colors Allowed Add complimentary after the word four (4) in the first sentence. Section 25.38-16.11 Maximum Sign Area Limitation Replace allowed to advertise the use being made to needed to identify the use. Section 25.38-17.03 Land Subdivision Signs Commissioner Berkey feels this section should be restricted to one off-site sign only. Chairman l�lilson asked for a rewrite of this section to be submitted again for approval . Section 25.38-18.03 Interference with Enforcement This entire section to be deleted as it is specified elsewhere in other ordinances. � Section 25.38-18.05 Removal & Amortization Period This section was revised as follows: Add in the first paragraph after the word herein the following: Existing legal signs which do not conform to one of the requirements of Sections 25.38-16.03-Signs Facing Private Property Prohibited(as long as the property is underdeveloped) and Section 25.38-16.06-Color of Signs shall not be required to comply with this section for the life of the sign as long as the requirements of Section 25.38-21 are met and no other sections are violated. Section 25.38-18.06 Schedule I Herb Powers also recommended a second schedule for sign removal pertaining to the changing of the word "motel " to "hotel ". After some discussion, a period of three years was generally agreed upon. Section 25.38-18.07 Ad Hoc Si�n Amortization Committee Item B under Membership was recommended to be changed to "two" from any of the following fields of endeavor, but limited to one person per field. � Item #6 - Reword the last sentence to read: However, no extended amortization period shall exceed for more than one year or double the original allotted time, whichever is greater. Item #7 - Change fifteen (15) days to thirt (30) days. Section 25.38-22 Separability This entire section to be deleted as it is covered elsewhere in the Zoning Ordinance. -4- MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNTNG COMMxSSION MARCH 16, 1976 VIII. OLD BUSINESS, continued Chairman Wilson asked for one final study session on the Sign Ordinance before it goes to Public Hearing. : B. Continued Discussion on Hillside Development Guidelines, ;,�,,,, to establish development of standar�s to hillside devel opment in the City of Palm Desert. Paul Williams explained that at the last Study Session, the Commission recommended several changes in the draft resolution. This document is the product of that discussion. The Commission discussed changes under Density Policies relating to the calculation of developable area and they were unable to decide the exact intent of the wording "should be excluded" versus "shall be excluded". Mr. Williams explained the purpose for this wording and how it would aid in the implementation of the standards and the Commission agreed to leave the document as written. There being no further comments, Commissioner Van de Mark moved to adopt Planning Commission Resolution No. 128 as prepared. Commissioner Berkey seconded the motion. Motion unanimously carried. There was a brief recess at 9:20 p.m. The meeting resumed at 9:30 p.m. IX. NEW BUSINESS - None � X. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS A. Review of recommendations of the Design Review Board meeting of March 9, 1976. Case No. 27C-Moller's Garden Center was reviewed by staff with the commission and approved. Case No. lOC-Bernie Leung for Roy Carver was reviewed by staff with the commission. The commission decided to call this item up for the next �lanning Commission meeting of March 30, 1976, due to the vast disagreement on this case reference the number of colors used on the sign for the Desert Indian Shop. Case No. 11C-Affiliated Construction was reviewed with the Commission and approved. Case No. 2MF-Affiliated Construction was also reviewed with the Commission and approved. Commissioner Van de Mark moved that Planning Commission Resolution No. 129, approving of the Design Review Board Action of March 9, 1976, be approved, with the exception of the above case(#lOC) which was ' called up before the Commission. Commissioner Berkey seconded the � motion. Motion carried unanimously< XI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None XII. COMMENTS - None -5- . MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETZNG MARCH 16, 1976 XIII. ADJOURNMENT Commissioner Van de Mark moved to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner Berkey seconded the motion. Motion unanimously carried and the meeting was adjourned at 9:50 p.m. i�rw � \ �.�-�.��,�, ` �w.1 PAUL . WILLIAMS, Secretary ATTEST: ��-- � / -� � ROY LS , Chair � �r..r -6-