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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
SEPTEMBER 14, 1976
7 PM - CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
I. CALL TO ORDER
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Palm Desert Planning Commission was
called to order by Chairman Wilson at 7:02 pm in the Council Chambers of
the Palm Desert City Hall .
II . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Commissioner Berkey
III. ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioner GEORGE BERKEY
Commissioner GLORIA KELLY
Commissioner NELSON MILLS
Commissioner MARY K. VAN DE MARK
Chairman S. ROY WILSON
Others
Present: Paul A. Williams - Director of Environmental Services
Hunter Cook - City Engineer
Steve Fleshman - Associate Planner
Sam Freed - Assistant Planner
IV. APPOINTMENTS:
A. Appointment of Chairman
Commissioner Van de Mark nominated S. Roy Wilson for re-appointment
as Chairman in view of the excellent job he has done. Commissioner
Mills seconded the nomination. No further nominations were proposed.
The following vote was cast:
AYES: Berkey, Kelly, Mills, Van de Mark
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Wilson
B. Appointment of Vice-Chairman
Commissioner Van de Mark nominated George Berkey for re-appointment
as Vice-Chairman. Commissioner Kelly seconded the nomination. No
further nominations were proposed. The following vote was cast:
AYES: Kelly, Mills, Van de Mark, Wilson
NOES: None
ABSTAIN : Berkey
Chairman Wilson thanked the members of the Commission for their vote of
confidence.
V. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. MINUTES of the meeting of August 31, 1976.
The following corrections were made to the above-listed minutes:
1. Page 2, paragraph 9, insert the following reason for Chairman
Wilson 's agreement with Commissioner Van de Mark with regards
to not approving Variance 03-76: Chairman Wilson felt that
if the Variance was granted, this action would set a precedent
which could apply to all Scenic Preservation Zones.
2. Page 5, last paragraph, 3rd line, add the word "had" after
the word "he" and before the word "not".
3. Typographical error, page 6, last paragraph, change the word
"is" to read "in".
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4. Page 8, paragraph 4, omit the last sentence, "Motion unanimously
carried. " and insert the following: The motion carried with the
following vote:
AYES: Berkey, Kelly, Mills, Van de Mark
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Wilson
5. Page 9, insert the following sentence after the 5th paragraph:
"Chairman Wilson advised Ms. Huntington that there would only
be one-story buildings around the perimeter of the location. "
6. Page 10, Chairman Wilson requested that the second and third
paragraphs be transposed.
7. Page 10, paragraph 6, omit the last sentence, "motion unanimously
carried. " and insert the following: "The motion carried with the
following vote:
AYES: Berkey, Kelly, Mills, Van de Mark
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Wilson
A motion of Commissioner Kelly, seconded by Commissioner Berkey, to ap-
prove the minutes, as corrected, of the August 31, 1976 meeting was
unanimously carried.
VI. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
A. Letter from Mrs. Fred Lande requesting for a determination of whether
a Foster Home for 3 to 4 children would be allowed in the R-1 Zone
District.
Mr. Williams reviewed the above letter with the Commission. His report to
the Commission also included a draft -letter to be sent to Mrs. Lande advising
her of the Commission's findings.
A short discussion ensued between the Commission and staff, which included
' a clarification of the definition of a "family" according to the Zoning Ordi-
nance. The general consensus of the Commission seemed to be that a limit of
3 children would be allowable.
A minute motion by Commissioner Mills, seconded by Commissioner Van de Mark,
to instruct Mr. Williams to send a revised letter to Mrs. Lande indicating
the Commissioner's decision regarding the limitation of 3 children, was
unanimously carried.
VII . PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairman Wilson explained the Public Hearing procedures to the members of
the audience.
A. CONTINUED CASE NO. TRACT 8237 - U. S. LIFE SAVINGS AND LOAN ASSOCIATION
Consideration of a Tentative Map for a single-family residential subdivi-
sion on 54.5 acres of land located east of Portola Avenue, south of the
Whitewater River Storm Channel , and west of Deep Canyon Road.
Mr. Williams began his presentation by stating that this case had been con-
tinued from the August 31, 1976 Planning Commission meeting. Mr. Williams
presented a letter to the Commission from the Desert Sands Unified School
District. Said letter contained the following requests regarding the new
subdivision.
"1. Request additional street or Pedestrian walkway be required.
Pedestrian access between the two schools and many of the proposed
residences , especially in the southeast portion of the tract, will
be difficult and must be by excessively long and circuitous routes
unless a street or pedestrian walkway is provided connecting Rutledge
Avenue and Desert Star Blvd. at a location such as through Lots 17
and 34 or adjoining lots to the east. Our experience has been that
children will seek "short cuts" in the absence of streets or walkways
in such circumstances which could cause trouble for property owners
along both Desert Star and Rutledge."
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"2. Request that view obscuring wall be provided.
It is requested that the developer provide a view obscuring wall on
the west property line between the proposed tract and the school dis-
trict property adjoining (west side of Lots 177 to 185) for the pur-
pose of restricting access to and from the school property through
private residential properties. The added benefit of increased privacy
to home owners is significant. If a block wall cannot be provided, a
chain link fence with decorative landscape screening is recommended as
a minimum acceptable substitute."
Mr. Williams stated that staff believed the School District's concerns had
been adequately addressed with the revision of the tract map. Mr. Williams
further explained that since the last Commission meeting of August 31st, the
„ staff had met on several occasions with the applicant and his engineer. There
were also meetings with the staff and the residents of the area. The result
of those meetings is a revised Tentative Tract Map which resolves many of the
concerns that the City Engineer, the Planning staff, and the citizens had with
the subdivision.
A lengthy discussion ensued covering the following issues:
A list of items that have been resolved.
Proposed community facilities dedication
Improvement of Rutledge Way and Magnesia Falls Drive adjacent to the
proposed Park site.
Drainage
Sidewalks
Desert Star Boulevard Extension
The benefits of the proposed subdivision were also discussed. They are as
follows:
„, Completion of circulation system in the area
Provides the potential for reasonable priced housing
Resolves an existing drainage problem
Provides alternatives for safe and direct access to the Middle School
and Community Park complex
Increases an existing Park area
Mr. Williams further explained that the Conditions of Approval were self-
explanatory and conformed to the existing revised map. He stated that staff
LL' recommended Planning Commission adoption of Resolution No. 178, forwarding
wthe Tentative Tract Map to the City Council for consideration.
Commissioner Kelly questioned the wording on Condition of Approval No. 6.
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z ` Hunter Cook explained that the second sentence of Condition No. 6, which reads
as follows, should be omitted due to the fact that it was a part of the original
conditions:
0 6. Developer shall provide 5' wide P.C.C. sidewalks on both sides of
w all interior streets, as required by the City Engineer. Sidewalk
z may be omitted on Primrose Lane between Erin Street and the cul-de-
UJ sacs.
w There was a lengthy discussion concerning the access problems on Deep Canyon
Road. Commissioner Berkey was extremely concerned about this situation.
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"IE Hunter Cook explained the right-of-way concept with reference to Deep Canyon
Road.
Commissioner Kelly wanted to know why a condition for street lights within
the subdivision had been eliminated.
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Mr. Williams explained that the City Council has not established a policy
for street lights as yet.
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Mr. Cook felt that a definite policy for street lights should be established.
He stated that if a street light policy was established, there were two major
cn intersections within the subdivision that should have signals. These inter-
] sections are Deep Canyon Road and Magnesia Falls Drive and "F" Street and
Rutledge Way.
Commissioner Van de Mark felt that a street light should be installed at the
intersection of Rutledge Way and Portola Avenue.
Mr. Cook agreed that that intersection should have a street light but it was
not as much a part of the subdivision.
Mr. Williams stated that the real issue with regards to street lights was
not who was going to install them but rather the on-going costs of street
lights and a determination of the level of street lights.
Chairman Wilson asked if the applicant was present.
FRANK GOODMAN, 73-655 Shadow Mountain Drive, spoke to the Commission regarding
the subdivision. Mr. Goodman stressed the fact that there had been a good
number of hours spent in working with staff on the revision of the Tentative
Tract Map. He stated that the layout of the streets had been completed to
the satisfaction of the City Engineer. He further stated that cooperation was
excellent from all staff members that were involved. He also stated that he
had generally agreed with all the requests of the staff; but that there were
one or two matters of principal that he would like to discuss.
The first major problem was the problem of dedication of property for the
Community Park. The second major problem was the requirement for the instal-
lation of sidewalks. Mr. Goodman requested that the subdivider only be re-
quired to install sidewalks on "F" and "A" Streets and Rutledge Way rather
than the entire subdivision. Mr. Goodman again stated that he would accept
all of the terms and conditions other than the park dedication condition and
the sidewalk condition.
DON SHAYLER, 73-893 Highway 111 (Engineer for the project) spoke to the Com-
mission on the more technical aspects of the project. Mr. Shayler requested
a re-write of Condition No. 12, which reads as follows:
12. The section of Desert Star Boulevard between the existing improve-
ments and "F" Street shall be constructed as a pedestrian and bicycle
way. The existing improvement shall be curbed as necessary to exclude
through traffic at this time. The unimproved portion of the right-of-
way shall be landscaped to the satisfaction of the City Engineer.
Hunter Cook felt that the condition as written was adequate and did not present
any problems.
Chairman Wilson stated at this time the Commission would take any input in
favor of the proposed subdivision.
DALE MEAD, 74-161 Desert Star Boulevard, spoke to the Commission with reference
to the traffic problems on Desert Star Boulevard. He had no opposition to the
subdivision, his only concern was that Desert Star Boulevard should not go
through.
ART BENDER, 74-020 Desert Star Boulevard, stated he was in favor of the
revised map as presented and that it had been a pleasure working with the
staff.
VICTOR CLARK, 74-280 Erin Street, stated he was basically in favor of the
revised map. Mr. Clark further stated he supported staff's condition re-
garding dedication. He also stated that Deep Canyon Road should be considered
as a prime entrance and exit route for the development.
DIANE MEAD, 74-161 Desert Star Boulevard, spoke to the Commission with regards
to the access problem on Desert Star Boulevard.
Chairman Wilson explained to Mrs. Mead that the intent was to block off Desert
Star at this time but keep the option open for future years.
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RONDI SALTER, 74-010 Desert Star Boulevard spoke to the Commission in favor
of the project.
KENNETH ARNOLD, 74-360 Erin Street, spoke to the Commission in favor of the
project. He also requested that the developer consider the drainage problem
at the end of Florine Street.
Being no further comments either in favor of or opposed to the project,
Chairman Wilson closed the Public Hearing.
Chairman Wilson stated he was pleased with the amount of work that had been
done with reference to the map revision and he was also pleased with the
spirit of cooperation between the staff, the developer, and the citizens.
Chairman Wilson then stated that there seemed to be two major issues for
discussion at this time. The first issue dealing with the dedication of the
lots west of Rutledge Way and the second issue dealing with sidewalks through-
out the subdivision.
Commissioner Berkey felt that the developer should dedicate the area west of
Ruteldge Way for an extension of the existing park facilities and also that
the developer should only be responsible for development of the east half of
the street. On the sidewalk issue, Commissioner Berkey felt that even though
there wasn't a firm policy relating to sidewalks, sidewalks should be installed
throughout the subdivision.
Commissioner Van de Mark agreed with Commissioner Berkey.
Commissioner Kelly was in favor of sidewalks throughout the development. She
also supported Commissioner Berkey's feeling that the developer should dedicate
the area west of Rutledge Way for an extension of the existing park facilities
and the concept of not requiring the developer to improve the west half of
Rutledge Way adjacent to the park.
At this point, Mr. Williams explained in detail the fact that the matter of
the park dedication and whether Rutledge Way were to be improved full width
were two separate issues. He indicated strongly that Rutledge Way full im-
provement was essential for good circulation in the subdivision.
Commissioner Berkey agreed that these were separate issues and it was the con-
sensus of the Commission that the developer should fully improve Rutledge Way
adjacent to the Park, except for sidewalks on the west side.
Chairman Wilson stated that the Commission seemed to be in agreement on both
issues, unless the City Council overrides the Commission. Chairman Wilson
also stated that he was also in favor of the developer dedicating the area
west of Rutledge Way and having a requirement for the installation of side-
walks throughout the subdivision.
There was a short discussion regarding the issue of widening Deep Canyon
Road. All the Commissioners agreed that Deep Canyon Road was going to be
a very important access point.
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zChairman Wilson then asked for a consensus of opinion regarding the park
u, dedication.
w , Commissioner Kelly asked if there was any of getting the full 2.7 acres.
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Mr. Williams pointed out the alternatives on the map.
.� Commissioner Berkey requested additional input from the developer.
Chairman Wilson reopened the Public Hearing.
Frank Goodman spoke to the Commission regarding the hardship that would be
caused on the developer if the entire 2.7 acres were dedicated. The dedi-
cation of the full 2.7 acres would require the replacement of an entire water
main and laterals which he had participated in its construction on the premise
that Rutledge Way would not be moved.
Chairman Wilson closed the Public Hearing.
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Commissioner Van de Mark moved that the Planning Commission adopt Resolution
No. 178, with the property west of Rutledge Way being dedicated to the park
and the remaining be accepted as lieu monies; the deletion of the second
sentence under Condition No. 6, and the correction to Condition No. 13; also
the wording changes recommended by staff regarding the second page of the
resolution (changing Lots 177-185 to read: the area west of Rutledge Way
(Avenue)). Commissioner Berkey seconded the motion. Chairman Wilson asked
if there was any further discussion on the matter.
Commissioner Kelly stated that she was not satisfied with the park dedication
arrangement, in terms of not getting the full 2.7 acres and also the width
of Deep Canyon Road, south of the subdivision.
Chairman Wilson explained that Condition No. 4 spelled out the 20' access on
Deep Canyon, south of the subdivision.
Commissioner Kelly stated that she wanted the park to be the full 2.7 acres
and she also wanted Deep Canyon Road to be developed to a full width of 32' ,
south of the subdivision.
The motion was carried with the following vote:
AYES: Berkey, Mills, Van de Mark, Wilson
NOES: Kelly
Chairman Wilson called a brief recess at 8:38 pm. The meeting was reconvened
at 8:50 pm.
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
A. DISCUSSION OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN FOR THE COLLEGE OF THE DESERT AREA
1. Preliminary Circulation Plan for Various Blocks.
Mr. Williams explained that this item was under the Old Business
section of the agenda due to the fact that the history of the C.O.D.
area had already been presented to the Commission. Further, at the
next study session meeting, the Commission would receive a report
from the staff containing comments from other agencies pertaining
to the C.O.D. Specific Plan.
Mr. Williams then discussed the General Project Area Concerns with
the Commission.
A Sub-Area Analysis was discussed which included 5 sub-areas as
follows:
The Palm Del Block (north of 44th, from Highway 111 to Monterey)
The C.O.D. Block (north of 44th, from Monterey to Portola)
The Deep Canyon Block (north of 44th, from Portola to Cook)
The Palma Village #12 Block (south of 44th, from Monterey to
San Pablo)
The Palm Vista Block (south of 44th, from Monterey to Fairhaven)
Slides of the major streets in the above areas were shown to the Com-
mission.
Mr. Williams stated that the most important predominant feature of
the area would be the area of 44th Avenue and Monterey Avenue.
Sam Freed explained that all the figures used pertaining to the average
daily traffic volume were taken from 1973 Riverside County Traffic Rec-
ords.
Chairman Wilson was concerned with the gigantic area that was involved
and the amount of time it would take to discuss this.
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Mr. Williams stated that staff would present a report to the
Commission at their meeting of October 5, 1976. Said report
would include study zones, limitations, alternatives to the
study area, etc.
Chairman Wilson asked that the report be coordinated with the
City Engineer.
2. Review of Demographic Data.
Sam Freed explained to the Commission that staff felt that the
Commission could use the above data as an informational tool to
get a feeling for the type of people that live in the area. Even-
tually, the information contained in the above report would be
quite useful in the areas of housing, or parks, recreation, circu-
lation and ultimately establishing priorities for public improve-
ments. The report contained an area-by-area breakdown showing
the number of people, number and types of housing units , number of
vacant or seasonal units, the median age, average income, average
housing value, average rent, percentage unemployed, percentage re-
tired and the percentage of those individuals who are students ( 18
years of age or over) .
IX. NEW BUSINESS
A. REQUEST FROM THE CVCWD THAT THE CITY OF PALM DESERT FIND THAT VARIOUS
PROJECTS CONFORM TO THE PALM DESERT GENERAL PLAN.
Mr. Williams explained to the Commission that the CVCWD proposed the
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o Install 1,400 feet 12 inch pipeline in Desert Lily Drive between
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Install 400 feet 8 inch pipeline in Ironwood between Shadow Mountain
U' Drive and Verba Santa Drive.
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Z Install 500 feet 8 inch pipeline between Ocotillo Drive and Verba
Santa Drive.
Install 900 feet 12 inch pipeline in E1 Paseo and Highway 111 to
Panorama Drive and 350 feet 8 inch pipeline in Panorama Drive.
Install 700 feet 12 inch pipeline in Deep Canyon from Abronia Trail
to Highway 111 and in Highway 111 to Shadow Hills Road and 300 feet
8 inch pipeline in Shadow Hills Road south from Highway 111.
Install 1,000 feet 6 inch pipeline in Parosella Street between Abronia
Trail and Panorama Drive.
Mr. Williams stated that staff recommended that the Planning Commission
adopt Resolution No. 179, finding that the above proposed projects are
in compliance with the adopted Palm Desert General Plan.
Commissioner Berkey moved that the Planning Commission adopt Resolution
No. 179. Commissioner Mills seconded the motion ; motion unanimously
carried.
B. DISCUSSION OF ARTICLE FROM THE STATE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND RESEARCH
Mr. Williams stated that the above article had been presented to the
Commission for informational purposes only.
C. DISCUSSION OF ARTICLE FROM PRACTICAL PLANNING, "CHILDREN DESIGN THEIR
NEIGHBORHOOD PLAYGROUND".
The Commission was asked to review this article for informational pur-
poses only.
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D. DISCUSSION OF REPORT ON VANDALISM
Chairman Wilson requested that this discussion be continued to the
next scheduled study session in order for the Commissioners to spend
more time on the discussion.
X. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS
A. Review of cases heard by the Design Review Board at their meeting of
September 7, 1976.
Mr. Fleshman presented the Design Review Board cases to the Commission.
These cases included one case that had been held over from the last
Commission meeting per the Commission's request - Case No. 41MF - Deep
Canyon Tennis Club.
The following cases were also discussed:
37C - Roy Carver
35C - Harold McCormick
26C - Sandy Sierra Nevada, Inc.
38C - Sandy Sierra Nevada, Inc.
47MF - Silver Spur Associates
Mr. Fleshman stated that the Design Review Board had denied one case -
Case No. 5C for the Tie Breaker Restaurant.
The Commission discussed in detail Case No. 37C and several concerns
were expressed. However, the Commission decided that no additional
changes were necessary.
Commissioner Mills moved that the Planning Commission adopt Resolution
No. 180, approving the Design Review Board actions of September 7, 1976.
Commissioner Berkey seconded the motion. Commissioner Kelly asked that
the record show that she was opposed to the Design Review Board's action
pertaining to Case No. 37C. The motion carried with the following vote:
AYES: Berkey, Mills, Van de Mark, Wilson
NOES: Kelly
Commissioner Kelly asked that the reason for her NO vote be listed for
the record. She stated that she did not feel that the building was com-
patible to the design of the area and that it would be more compatible in
a location such as the Palms-to-Pines Center.
XI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
XII. COMMENTS
A. City Staff
Mr. Williams presented an article from the American Society of Planning
Officials regarding their Code of Ethics.
Mr. Williams also presented the revised Planning Commission Resolution
No. 170, pertaining to F. S. & L. Industries. Said resolution was revised
to indicate the Commission's denial on Case No. Variance 03-76. Mr. Williams
*NOW also stated that Mr. Kuri (President of F. S. & L. Industries) had appealed
the Commission's decision and that the City Council would review the matter
at their meeting of October 14, 1976.
Mr. Williams further stated that the City Council had requested a review
of Case No. CUP 08-76 (KMIR-TV) and that the hearing would be held at a
special adjourned City Council meeting to be held on September 29, 1976.
Mr. Williams also informed the Commission that there had been no decision
as to a date for a joint City Council/Planning Commission study session.
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B. City Attorney
Not present
C. Planning Commissioners
Commissioner Kelly requested that staff take a look at the Zoning Ordi-
nance in the section pertaining to the definition of a "family" and come
back to the Planning Commission with a possible re-wording of the defini-
tion to allow a greater number of foster children within one residence.
Commissioner Berkey requested a report from staff at the next Planning
Commission meeting pertaining to the new building at the corner of E1
Paseo and Sage Lane.
Commissioner Kelly asked that the City Council be made aware of the
Commission's feelings pertaining to street lights within the new subdivi-
sion (Case No. Tract 8237).
XIII. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Van de Mark moved to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner Mills
seconded the motion and the meeting was adjourned at 10:51 pm.
PAUL A. WILLIAMS, SECRETARY
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