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MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OCTOBER 19, 1976
7 PM - CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
I. CALL TO ORDER
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Palm Desert Planning Commission
was called to order by Chairman Wilson at 7:00 pm in the Council Cham-
Now bers of the Palm Desert City Hall .
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Commissioner Berkey
III. ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioner BERKEY
Commissioner KELLY
Commissioner MILLS
Commissioner VAN DE MARK
Chairman WILSON
Also
Present: Paul A. Williams - Director of Environmental Services
Steve Fleshman - Associate Planner
Sam Freed - Assistant Planner
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. MINUTES of the meeting of October 5, 1976
%Nor The minutes to the above meeting were amended as follows:
Page 3, llth paragraph, to be reworded as follows:
Request for a Conditional Use Permit to allow for the
expansion of an additional 320 square feet to an existing
pre-school , situated in the R-1 Zone District on the east
side of San Luis Rey, 300 feet north of Alessandro.
Page 3, 13th paragraph, add the following sentence:
Mr. Fleshman's report also indicated that this would not
be an increase in the number of children attending the
pre-school ; it would just be an addition to the facilities
for an expansion of 320 square feet.
Page 4, 4th paragraph, typographical error, last line, change
the word "come" to read "some".
Page 4, 4th paragraph, add the word "not" after the word
"would" in the second line.
Page 5, insert a new paragraph as follows, between the 6th and
7th paragraphs from the bottom:
tow There was a ten minute break to allow the staff time to
study the matter and prepare a recommendation.
A motion of Commissioner Kelly, seconded by Commissioner Berkey, to
approve the minutes, as corrected, of the October 5, 1976 meeting,
was unanimously carried.
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V. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
A. Notice of Reception from the Manufactured Housing Institute.
Mr. Williams reviewed the above notice of reception with the
Commission. The reception is for Public Officials to attend
the 24th Annual Manufactured Housing and RV Show in Los Angeles
on November 5, 1976.
B. Letter from Francisco J. Urrutia, regarding the height and number
of stories allowed in the PC(4) Zone District.
Mr. Williams reviewed the above letter from Mr. Urrutia. Said
letter was requesting some indication from the Commission as to
their feelings regarding a proposed project at the corner of
Now Highway 111 and 44th Avenue. Mr. Williams also explained that
Mr. Urrutia was present if the Commission would like to discuss
the matter with him.
FRANK URRUTIA, A.I.A. , 73-350 El Paseo, spoke to the Commission
and explained that the intent of his letter as it was addressed
to the Commission was to really find out the Commission's feel-
ings regarding three-story structures in the PC(4) Zone District.
He explained that what he and his client had in mind was a three-
story structure that would remain within the thirty foot limita-
tion of the PC(4) Zone District.
There was an informal discussion among the members of the Commission
which included the feelings of the Commissioners as follows:
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Commissioner Van de Mark felt that as long as the proposed struc-
ture was within the thirty foot limitation it would be acceptable.
Commissioner Mills asked if it would be appropriate to discuss
'? this matter with the Design Review Board.
Chairman Wilson stated that it would not be appropriate to discuss
the matter with the Design Review Board because Mr. Urrutia had
asked specifically for the Commission's feelings; and that the
NOW Commission should give Mr. Urrutia some indication of how they
felt.
Chairman Wilson explained his feelings on the matter stating that
he would object to a three story structure, unless it was quite
pleasing and unobtrusive. His feelings were based on the feelings
of the community from when they went through the preparation of the
new Zoning Ordinance and spent considerable time on their decision
regarding two story structures and the thirty foot limitation.
Commissioner Berkey stated that he would not be opposed as long
as the structure was attractive.
Commissioner Kelly agreed with each of her fellow commissioners.
She stated that she did not want to see any straight three story
structures, but she felt that Mr. Urrutia had a unique building
in mind.
There was a short discussion among Mr. Urrutia and the Commissioners.
Chairman Wilson then informed Mr. Urrutia that he should proceed with
his plans with some caution and that the matter would be open to re-
view by the Commission. He further stated that he hoped Mr. Urrutia 's
plans would not include a "typical three story box" type structure.
Commissioner Berkey asked Mr. Urrutia to make sure the proposed struc-
ture would not interfere with any views.
VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS
None
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VII. OLD BUSINESS
A. Consideration of the setting of a Public Hearing for the rezoning
of all areas in the City that are now zoned 'S' (Study) , to R-E
or other more appropriate zones.
Mr. Williams reviewed the Study Zones with the Commission and
stated that they had reviewed Parcels A through E at their
last meeting and at that meeting they had elected to schedule
Parcels B and E for Public Hearing on November 4, 1976 and that
now the discussion should be centered around Parcels A, C, and
D. He further stated that staff recommended setting the above
listed parcels for Public Hearing on November 30, 1976. Mr.
Williams also explained that a minute motion would be needed for
too each individual parcel .
There was a short discussion with reference to Parcel A; which is a
36.46 acre parcel located south of Parkview Drive, north of 44th
Avenue, east of the Palm Valley Storm Channel , and west of Fairhaven
Drive. The previous zoning on this parcel was R-3-7,000 and the staff
proposed zoning of R-1-10,000, S.P. During the discussion, it was de-
cided that the proposed zoning should be changed to R-1-10,000.
Commissioner Van de Mark moved that the Commission set November 30,
1976, as a Public Hearing date for Parcel A. Commissioner Kelly
seconded the motion; motion unanimously carried.
Parcel C was the next parcel that was discussed. Mr. Williams
gave the location as south of the Whitewater Storm Channel and
east of Portola Avenue. He explained that the previous zoning,
under the County, was W-2 (Controlled Development). He stated
that staff was recommending a zoning designation of PR-6, S.P. ,
which is a medium density residential designation.
There was a discussion during which the Commission decided that a zoning
designation with a lesser density should be proposed due to the fact that
this particular area needed more study.
moo Chairman Wilson moved that the Commission set Parcel C for Public Hearing
on November 30, 1976, with a proposed zoning designation of R-E-40,000.
Commissioner Van de Mark seconded the motion; motion unanimously carried.
Parcel D was then reviewed by Mr. Williams. The location of this
parcel is north of 44th Avenue, west of Cook Street. The parcel
consists of 3 lots with a total area of 17.93 acres. Mr. Williams
stated that staff's recommendation would be a PR-6, S.P. zoning
designation.
After a short discussion, Commissioner Berkey moved that Parcel D be
set for Public Hearing on November 30, 1976, with a zoning designa-
tion of PR-6, S.P. , as recommended by staff. Commissioner Kelly
seconded the motion; motion unanimously carried.
B. CASE NO. 15SA, TIE-BREAKER RESTAURANT, APPLICANT
Appeal of a Design Review Board denial of a request to modify the
sign program for the Tie-Breaker Restaurant. (Continued from the
October 5, 1976 meeting. )
Steve Fleshman presented the staff report which included the re-
quest from the applicant for the relocation of one sign and the
installation of a new sign.
%O" Chairman Wilson asked if the applicant was present.
DOUGLAS H. POWELSON, 725 East 1600 North, Orem, Utah, spoke to
the Commission with reference to his appeal of the Design Review
Board decision.
During the discussion of this matter by the Commission, it was decided
that the new sign which Mr. Powelson was proposing would be non-conforming
to the proposed Sign Ordinance, due to the fact that it would be facing
another business.
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Chairman Wilson then stated that the consensus of the Commission seemed
to be that the Design Review Board was correct in their denial .
Commissioner Van de Mark moved to adopt Planning Commission Resolution
No. 186, which denied Mr. Powelson's appeal of the Design Review Board
denial . Commissioner Berkey seconded the motion; motion unanimously
carried.
C. CASE NO. 30C, GEORGE RITTER, A.I.A. , APPLICANT
Review of a new commercial building on Highway 111. (Continued
from the October 5, 1976 meeting. )
Mr. Williams presented the staff report to the Commission. His
report included a discussion of the applicant's objections to
three of the standard conditions of approval and a staff recom-
mendation that the Planning Commission approve the project, with
the same conditions as recommended by the Design Review Board,
with the modification of Condition No. 5 to allow for the posting
of a cash deposit for the pro-rata share of the undergrounding
of the total block.
GEORGE RITTER, 73-899 Highway 111, Architect for the project and
representative of the applicant - Mr. Ritter spoke to the Commis-
sion and asked that they specifically direct their attention to
Condition No. 14 (the condition requiring the applicant to join
any assessment district formed, etc. ). Mr. Ritter asked that it
go on the record that even though the applicant was agreeing to
Condition No. 14 now; he was doing it only in order to receive
a building permit.
Mr. Ritter also discussed Condition No. 15 with the Commission.
This condition requires the applicant to grant an easement of
the City over the parking lot area. Mr. Ritter stated that he
felt they were revoking their right over the property forever.
Mr. Ritter then stated that the applicant was in agreement with
low Condition No. 5, as modified to allow for the posting of the cash
deposit for the undergrounding.
There was a lengthy discussion among the members of the Commission
with reference to the two conditions with which the applicant had
A some objections. The consensus of the Commission with reference to
I Condition No. 14 seemed to be that it should be used as a standard
condition until it is challenged in the courts. The Commission also
< discussed at great length the rear storage area of the project.
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Mr. Ritter then asked for a continuance to re-design the rear
z portion of the project, to mitigate some of the Commission 's
objections. Mr. Ritter stated that he would like to make some
changes in the design and return the project to the Design
Review Board.
Mr. Williams explained that, according to the Zoning Ordinance,
a continuance could not be allowed since this was already a con-
tinued item.
Chairman Wilson asked what the proper procedure would be.
Mr. Williams explained that a minute motion would be needed.
Commissioner Berkey moved that the matter be referred back to the
Design Review Board for futher study and additional input from the
applicant. Commissioner Kelly seconded the motion; motion unani-
mously carried.
Chairman Wilson called a brief recess at 8:59 pm. The meeting was
reconvened at 9: 13 pm.
Mr. Williams handed out the new reduced copies of the Zoning Map to
the Commissioners.
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D. Consideration of the Circulation Element for the C.O.D. Specific
Plan.
Mr. Williams stressed the fact that these reports should only
be considered as working documents that staff had prepared for
discussion. He explained that the material contained in the
documents must still go through several stages of refinement
with other City agencies before it will be ready as a prelimi-
nary Specific Plan element. Mr. Williams also explained that
additional comments were needed from the City Engineer.
One of the elements that the Commissioners agreed with as being
very important was the Bikeway System. The importance of 44th
Avenue as a major through route was also discussed.
Commissioner Van de Mark made a motion to return the Circulation Ele-
ment to the City Engineer for additional input. Commissioner Berkey
seconded the motion; motion unanimously carried.
E. Discussion of the "Report on Vandalism".
All the Commissioners agreed that the report was very in-depth.
There was some discussion regarding the vandalism at the Com-
munity Park and the Commission decided that they should discuss
this matter with the Council at the Joint Meeting.
F. Discussion on the Definition of "Family".
Mr. Fleshman explained that the the Planning Commission meeting
of October 5, 1976, the Commission had questioned the definition
of "family" as it related to foster children or a foster home
for children. Mr. Fleshman then read the Palm Desert Zoning Or-
`finance definition of "family". Further, Mr. Fleshman stated
hat at this time, staff did not see a need to change the defini-
�'° tion of "family".
Mr. Williams stated that staff would prepare another report for
^; the Commission on a way to limit the "family-type" home to six
children.
G. Discussion of the Agenda for the Upcoming Joint Meeting between
the City Council and the Planning Commission.
Mr. Williams reviewed the proposed agenda for the upcoming meeting
and suggested that the meeting be held in the Conference Room in-
stead of the Council Chambers.
The Commissioners agreed to add three additional items to the
agenda. These items are as follows:
Discussion on Vandalism;
Discussion of a uniform policy relative to Variance usage.
Discussion of possible quarterly joint meetings.
Mr. Williams then reviewed the City Council decision pertaining to
Frank Goodman's Tract (Tract 8237).
VIII. NEW BUSINESS
vow A. Reconsideration of the Sign Ordinance for the City of Palm Desert.
Mr. Williams stated that staff's recommendation would be to set
the Sign Ordinance for Public Hearing for November 16, 1976.
Chairman Wilson asked staff to provide a brief summary of the history
of the Sign Ordinance for the Commissioners and to present it to them
at their next meeting.
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Commissioner Berkey moved and Commissioner Kelly seconded to set the
Sign Ordinance for Public Hearing on November 16, 1976. The motion
unanimously carried.
B. Discussion of the Annual Report to the "Council on Inter-Government
Relations" on Planning Activities.
There was a short discussion pertaining to the above report.
Commissioner Mills moved to adopt Planning Commission Resolution No. 187,
as corrected, (change in Resolution Number and change in dates of Planning
Commission meeting). Commissioner Van de Mark seconded the motion; motion
unanimously carried.
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IX. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS
None
X. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
XI. COMMENTS
A. City Staff
Mr. Williams gave a report on the last City Council meeting. His
report included the Council 's decision on the Frank Goodman Tract
(Tract 8237) , which passed with a 3-2 vote in favor of the Tract.
Mr. Williams also informed the Commission that the City Council
had approved Variance 03-76 (Al Kuri ) on a 4-1 vote. He explained
that the Council felt unique circumstances were involved and there-
fore approved the Variance.
B. City Attorney
None
C. Planning Commissioners
Chairman Wilson commented that he thought the annual city-wide
-' bus trip was very beneficial in that it gave the people involved
a chance to share their thoughts.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Van de Mark moved to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner
Mills seconded the motion and the meeting was adjourned at 10:55 pm.
PAUL A. WILLIAMS, SECRETARY
ATTEST:
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S. ILSO CHAIRMAN
DESERT LANNING COMMI SION
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