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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
NOVEMBER 30, 1976
7 PM - CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
I. CALL TO ORDER
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Palm Desert Planning Commission
was called to order by Chairman Wilson at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Cham-
bers of the Palm Desert City Hall .
II. PLEDGE - Commissioner BERKEY
III. ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioner BERKEY
Commissioner KELLY
Commissioner MILLS
Chairman WILSON
Also
Present: Paul A. Williams - Director of Environmental Services
Jeff Patterson - Deputy City Attorney
Steve Fleshman - Associate Planner
Sam Freed - Assistant Planner
As required by Article 20 of the California Constitution, Deputy City
Attorney Patterson performed the swearing in ceremonies for Mr. F. CHARLES
READING, for the position of Planning Commissioner.
Chairman Wilson congratulated and welcomed Commissioner Reading.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. MINUTES of the meeting of November 16, 1976.
Mr. Williams suggested the following corrections to the above listed
minutes:
Page 2, 9th paragraph, 4th line, change the word "if" to "of".
Page 2, 9th paragraph, 6th line, change the word "this" to "that".
Page 2, llth paragraph, 2nd line, change the word "this" to "that".
Page 3, 8th paragraph, 1st line, change the word "it" to "if".
Page 3, 13th paragraph, 2nd line, change the word "possible" to
"possibly".
Page 4, 5th paragraph, 1st line, change the phrase "stated that
we had not had" to read "inquired if we had had".
Page 4, 10th paragraph, 3rd line, change "quidelines" to "guide-
lines".
Page 6, 1st paragraph, 3rd line from the bottom, change "ths"
to "the".
A motion of Commissioner Mills, seconded by Commissioner Berkey, to ap-
prove the minutes of November 16, 1976, as corrected, was unanimously
carried.
V. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
Mr. Williams stated that the only written communications were those
dealing with the cases before the Commission tonight.
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VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairman Wilson stated that prior to tonight's meeting, the Commission
had met in a Study Session for the purpose of asking questions regarding
the staff reports for clarification purposes and that no decisions were
made at the Study Session.
Chairman Wilson then explained the Public Hearing procedures to those
present.
A. CASE NO. C/Z 07-76, CITY OF PALM DESERT, APPLICANT
Planning Commission initiated Change of Zone on approximately 38
acres, located northerly of and adjacent to 44th Avenue, between
the Palm Valley Channel and Fairhaven Drive, from 'S' (Study) to
R-1-10,000 (Single Family Residential , 10,000 Square Foot Lots) ,
or other appropriate zones.
Mr. Williams presented the staff report to the Commission. Said
report included the location, size, previous zoning, etc. Mr.
Williams further explained that the 38 acres is under 10 separate
ownerships and that the parcels vary in size from as small as one
acre to as large as 15.94 acres. He then stated that staff was
recommending that the Commission forward a recommendation for ap-
proval of the Change of Zone to the City Council by Planning Com-
mission Resolution No. 195.
Mr. Williams then mentioned the two letters which had been presented
to the Commission at their Study Session. The first letter was from
the President and Chairman of the Board of the Palm Springs Medical
Clinic. Said letter was requesting that all land presently zoned
'S' be continued in that status for one more year. The second let-
ter was from Mr. Carl Meisterlin, General Manager of RMW of the
Desert. Mr. Meisterlin's letter strongly protested the Change of
Zone to P.-1-10,000.
' Mr. Williams then stated that in summary, staff was recommending the
Change of Zone to an R-1-10,000 designation.
Chairman Wilson asked if there were any questions of staff at this time.
Being none, Chairman Wilson opened the Public Hearing on Case No. C/Z
07-76 and asked for testimony in FAVOR of the proposed Change of Zone.
Being none, Chairman Wilson then asked for testimony in OPPOSITION to
the proposed Change of Zone.
RICHARD ARNOLD, 45-325 Panorama, spoke to the Commission as a property
owner of a 22 acre plot of land located north of the church and west
of Fairhaven Drive. Mr. Arnold stated that he was quite concerned a-
bout the situation. He had taken a canvas of the neighborhood adja-
cent to the parcel in order to get the people's opinion. He then
presented the results of that canvas to the Commission. He further
stated that he had talked to Dr. Stout at the College of the Desert
and that Dr. Stout said he would be happy to see some good clean apart-
ment units that were well-landscaped in the area. Mr. Arnold then
stated he would like to see the parcel zoned for good units with good
landscaping that would enhance the area.
HELEN BREEDING, 38-305 Chuperosa Lane, Cathedral City, spoke to the
Commission as the owner of three lots located at 44th Avenue and Fair-
haven Drive. Ms. Breeding stated that last February the zoning was
changed without her knowledge. She further stated that she would be
in favor of apartment unit zoning in the area and therefore, she was
very much opposed to the Change of Zone to R-1-10,000.
Chairman Wilson asked if anyone else was present who wished to speak against
the proposed Change of Zone.
DR. NORMAN HABER, 1045 S. Calle Marcus, Palm Springs, spoke to the
Commission as a representative of the Palm Springs Medical Clinic.
He stated that they had originally planned to build a medical build-
ing on the property they owned near 44th Avenue and Parkview Drive;
but that it was not feasible for them to expand their operations at
this time. He stated that they had put out a large amount of money
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and they were not in a position to take a financial loss. He
then stated that his organization was in favor of the parcel
remaining in the 'S' zone.
Chairman Wilson then closed the Public Hearing as there was no additional
testimony either in favor of or opposed to the proposed Change of Zone.
Chairman Wilson then stated that the Commission had before them an
"old question"; one that they had wrestled with earlier prior to the
parcel being zoned 'S' . He then stated that the Commission had just
heard testimony from two members of the audience requesting a multi-
family zoning for the parcel and one member requesting that the parcel
remain in the 'S' zone. He then asked the Commission what their feelings
were.
Commissioner Berkey stated that he was not ready to buy the idea that
this entire area should be put into a R-1-10,000 designation. He
stated that due to the studies that were going on, which might indicate
a need for some rental units in the area, he was prepared to vote for a
continuance of the 'S' zone.
Commissioner Kelly stated that she agreed with Commissioner Berkey.
She stated that we have a need for R-1 and R-3 zones; but due to the
fact that the C.O.D. Specific Plan was not complete, she felt that the
parcel should remain in the 'S' zone.
Commissioner Reading stated that being the newest member of the Com-
mission , he would have to agree with Commissioner Berkey's feelings.
Commissioner Mills also agreed with Commissioner Berkey. Commissioner
Mills then asked the Deputy City Attorney what the deadline was as per-
tains to the 'S' zone.
Deputy City Attorney Patterson answered that legally there was a
one year deadline. He further clarified this by stating that if
the Commission failed to take any action on the re-zoning the 'S'
parcels within that one year period, the parcel would automatically
revert to its previous County designation.
At this time, Chairman Wilson commented that the Commission had wrestled
with this situation at length; but until the Commission saw the results
of the C.O.D. Specific Plan, they would not really know the needs of
the area. He stated that he felt that if the Commission again decided
to place this parcel in the 'S' zone, they would run the chance of not
meeting the one year deadline before the C.O.D. Specific Plan was com-
pleted. He then stated that he was sympathetic to the feelings of the
other Commissioners; but he felt that R-1 was the safest way to go.
Finally, he asked the Commission if they wanted to put themselves into
another time frame and have to make a decision before the C.O.D. Study
was complete; or did they want to zone the parcel R-1.
Commissioner Berkey moved that by Planning Commission Resolution No. 195,
the Commission should recommend to the City Council that the 'S' (Study)
Zone be continued for one (1) year (Case No. C/Z 07-76). Commissioner
Mills seconded the motion.
Mr. Williams suggested that the following be added to Resolution
No. 195: " to allow for the completion of the C.O.D. Specific
Plan and to fully determine the needs of the area and to allow
additional time to prepare adequate study time for the area".
% W Chairman Wilson commented that if the Commission knew when the C.O.D.
Study would be complete, they would have a better idea on how to vote.
Commissioner Kelly asked if there was a deadline for the Study.
Mr. Williams answered that the Study would be complete by July
of 1977.
Planning Commission Resolution No. 195, was approved with a 4-1 vote.
Chairman Wilson voted no.
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B. CASE NO. C/Z 04-76, CITY OF PALM DESERT, APPLICANT
Planning Commission initiated Change of Zone on approximately
225 acres, located generally northerly of and adjacent to
44th Avenue, between Monterey Avenue and Portola Avenue, from
'S' (Study) to PR-1, S.P. (Planned Residential , One Unit Per
Acre, Scenic Preservation Overlay) , or other appropriate zones.
(Continued from November 4, 1976. )
Mr. Williams presented the staff report. His report included
the description, location, size, previous zoning, etc. Mr.
Williams explained that this was an 'S' zoned parcel consisting
of 225 acres of land surrounding the College of the Desert to
the east and the north. He further explained that there were
three separate ownerships involved. He also explained that this
was one of the most important parcels in the community. Further,
Mr. Williams explained that re-zoning of this parcel to a PR-1,
S.P. designation would be in conformance with the Palm Desert
General Plan and the Palm Desert Zoning Ordinance; and for those
reasons, the staff was recommending approval of Planning Commis-
sion Resolution No. 196, forwarding the consideration of the PR-1,
S.P. zone district to the City Council.
Mr. Williams then referred to the correspondence which had been
forwarded to the Commission from Mr. Jack N. Schappell , (repre-
senting the Regents of the University of California). The Regents
own 68 acres within said parcel and Mr. Williams pointed out this
acreage on the map to the Commission. Mr. Williams explained that
Mr. Schappell felt that a PR-1 designation would not be conducive
to the highest and best use of the property. Mr. Williams then
reiterated that this was a most important parcel for the following
reasons:
1. It is adjacent to 2 major north/south arterials.
2. It is adjacent to a major east/west arterial .
Mr. Williams stated that for these reasons, staff felt that this
was indeed a very important piece of property and one of the reasons
that the City had initiated the C.O.D. Specific Plan Study.
Chairman Wilson asked if there were any questions of staff at this time.
Being none, he then opened the Public Hearing on C/Z 04-76 and asked if
there was anyone wishing to give testimony in FAVOR of the re-zoning
to a PR-1 designation. Being none, Chairman Wilson then asked if there
was anyone present who wished to give testimony in OPPOSITION to the
proposed re-zoning.
FRANK GOODMAN, 73-655 Shadow Mountain Drive, spoke to the Commission
and stated that he had come to the meeting tonight to speak on a
different subject; but that after reading the agenda, he decided to
speak regarding C/Z 04-76. Mr. Goodman explained that he held no
financial interest in any property contained in said parcel . He
stated that he felt that the interim zoning proposed by staff would
put said property into a situation where there must be a subsequent
zoning change prior to any development. He then stated that, as
a developer, he would prefer that if the Commission could not make a
meaningful decision, they should leave the parcel in the 'S' zone.
ALAN SCHULEMAN, 9601 Wilshire Boulevard, Beverly Hills, spoke to
the Commission and stated he was an attorney representing a Mr.
Morris who was the owner of approximately 140 acres contained with-
in the parcel . Mr. Schuleman stated that the owner was most anxious
to see some development on his property and that he would like it
zoned for the highest and best use that would be compatible with the
City of Palm Desert. He then stated that he felt the R-1 zone was
the least compatible. Further, his client would be delighted to
participate with the City or anyone else in completing an engineering
study of the area. Finally, Mr. Schuleman stated that he strongly
urged the Commission to consider extending the 'S' zone for another
year.
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Chairman Wilson asked if there was anyone else who wished to give
testimony in OPPOSITION to the proposed re-zoning or if there was
anyone who had any remarks or questions. Being none, Chairman Wil-
son closed the Public Hearing on C/Z 04-76 and asked the Commission
to take the matter under consideration.
Commissioner Kelly stated that the Commission had received some very
interesting comments. Further, she stated that she did not have any
comments at this time but would like to ask staff what type of uses
could go in under a PR-1 designation.
Mr. Williams explained that the PR-1 designation meant Planned
Residential , 1 unit per gross acre. Further, the PR-1 designa-
tion would also allow public and community facilities, public/
to" private recreational uses, and other related uses. Mr. Williams
then stated that staff felt that while the question of the density
would come up tonight, he was surprised that the people objected
to the PR-1 designation. Mr. Williams also stated that some of
Mr. Morris' property was located in the "wash" area.
Chairman Wilson then re-opened the Public Hearing and asked Mr. Schuleman
how much of Mr. Morris' property was in the "wash" .
Mr. Schuleman answered that approximately 22 acres was located
in the "wash" and that approximately 120 acres of the land was
.developable.
Chairman Wilson then closed the Public Hearing and asked the Commission
if they had any additional comments to make.
Commissioner Mills asked Deputy City Attorney Patterson if the same
'S' deadline applied to this parcel .
Mr. Patterson answered yes.
Commissioner Reading stated that he wished to abstain from the discussion
due to the fact this was a continued Public Hearing and he had not been
present as a member of the Commission during the first Public Hearing.
Commissioner Berkey stated that he felt this parcel was similar to the
previous parcel in that more study was needed and that the 'S' zone would
be equally adequate as a "holding zone".
Commissioner Mills agreed with Commissioner Berkey.
Chairman Wilson stated that the question was whether or not the Commission
would receive the completed C.O.D. Study on time or possibly they should
place the parcel in the next closest zone, which would be PR-1, until
the Commission had a better understanding of the needs of the area. He
then asked Mr. Williams if the July target date for the completion of
the Study was a realistic date.
Mr. Williams answered that staff was committed to the July date
and that they would do everything possible to meet the deadline.
Chairman Wilson stated that timing was a factor to be considered and he
doubted that the Study would be completed according to the timetable
provided by staff.
Mr. Williams then stated that it should be pointed out that this
parcel was unique due to the following reasons and therefore staff
would recommend the parcel be placed in an 'S' zone:
1. The size and shape of the parcel .
2. The parcel 's historic value.
3. The parcel 's proximity to the "wash".
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Commissioner Mills moved that the parcel (C/Z 04-76) be continued
in an 'S' zone and that the Planning Commission approve Resolution
No. 196, recommending approval to the City Council . Commissioner
Kelly seconded the motion. The motion carried 3-1 with the fol-
lowing vote:
Ayes: Berkey, Kelly, Mills
Noes: Wilson
Abstain: Reading
Chairman Wilson asked that it be noted for the record that testimony
was taken pertaining to C/Z 04-76 on both November 4, 1976 and on
November 30, 1976.
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Mr. Williams stated that the Resolution would be worded cor-
rectly and that it would be returned to the Commission for
their review at their next meeting.
C. CASE NO. C/Z 05-76, CITY OF PALM DESERT, APPLICANT
Planning Commission initiated Change of Zone on approximately
10 acres, located at the northeast corner of Deep Canyon Road
and Highway 111, from 'S' (Study) to C-1, S.P. (General Com-
mercial , Scenic Preservation Overlay) , or other appropriate
zones; and on approximately 5 acres at the northwest corner
of the Indian Wells City Limit Line and Highway 111, from 'S'
(Study) to PC(4) (Planned Commercial-Resort) , or other appro-
priate zones. (Continued from November 4, 1976. )
o Mr. Williams presented the staff report to the Commission and
o explained that this case had been continued from the November
4, 1976 Planning Commission meeting in order to allow additional
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14Cexisting residential lots that front on Alessandro. Mr. Williams
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Mr. Williams then explained that the staff recommended zoning
designations provided for the best development potential of the
property under consideration. Further, all the alternatives had
shortcomings or problems equal to or greater than the recommenda-
tion. Therefore, staff was recommending approval of Planning Com-
mission Resolution No. 197, containing either staff's original re-
commendation or one of the alternatives.
Chairman Wilson asked if there were any questions of staff at this time.
Commissioner Berkey stated that if the Commission knew what was going to
happen to the Frontage Road and to Alessandro, it would be helpful and
he would like to see staff do a little more work on that aspect to give
the Commission some insight for a final decision.
Chairman Wilson asked staff for a little more in-depth report on the
situation.
Mr. Williams then went to the map and explained the different alter-
natives pertaining to the Frontage Road and Alessandro. He explained
that the Frontage Road could be left as it was or that it could be
o eliminated and that access could be limited to Alessandro. Further,
Mr. Williams explained that the City of Indian Wells favored the ex-
tension of the Frontage Road system and its connection with Alessandro.
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resolve this matter rather than placing the parcels back in the 'S' zone.
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time. Being none, he then opened the Public Hearing on Case No. C/Z 05-
76 and asked if there was anyone present wishing to give testimony in
favor of the proposed changes in zoning. Being no one, he then asked
if there was anyone present wishing to give testimony in OPPOSITION to
the proposed changes in zoning. Being no one, Chairman Wilson closed
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the Public Hearing on C/Z 05-76 and asked the Commission to take the
matter under consideration.
Chairman Wilson stated that the Commission had received testimony at
the Public Hearing on November 4, 1976, from several property owners
in the area who were concerned about commercial development adjacent
to residential development. He then stated that the Commission had
staff's proposal which conformed to the General Plan and also several
alternatives to said proposal . He then stated that it might be possible
to take the C-1, S.P. zoning designation and seeing it changed to a
PC(1) Specialty Development designation which would give the Commission
quite a bit more control over development on that site. He stated that
this would also allow the Commission to see some workable road solutions.
Commissioner Reading asked to abstain from the discussion on this case
due to the fact that it was a continued item and he had not been a mem-
ber of the Commission during the first discussion.
Commissioner Kelly stated that she was strongly opposed to commercial
development adjacent to residential development and stated that she had
made this opposition known at the last Hearing on this case. She then
stated that she would like a little more input regarding what type of
controls were available under the PC(1) designation.
Chairman Wilson asked Mr. Williams to explain what types of controls
would be applicable under both the C-1 and PC(1) designations.
Mr. Williams explained both designations to the Commission.
Chairman Wilson then stated that the consensus of the Commission
seemed to be that no one was happy with the C-1, S.P. zoning desig-
nation.
Mr. Williams reminded the Commission that this was a continued
matter and that if the Commission did not make a decision, the
parcel would revert back to the original County zoning.
Commissioner Kelly then stated that she would like to see some dis-
cussion on the PR zone and she thought this would be a more feasible
zone for this parcel .
Mr. Williams stated that a PR-5 designation would be feasible
for the northerly portion of the parcel .
Commissioner Berkey stated that a PC(4) designation would be in con-
formance with the General Plan.
Commissioner Mills stated that he agreed with Commissioner Kelly.
Chairman Wilson 'stated that the Commission could also place the par-
cel back into a 'S' zone for another year and that actually the Com-
mission had three options:
1. Re-zone the parcel 'S' to allow more time for study.
2. Apply a PR-5 zoning designation to the northerly half and
a PC(4) designation to the southerly half of the parcel .
3. Recognize that commercial development would be appropriate
as long as it was planned so that it would not affect the
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Commissioner Kelly moved that Planning Commission Resolution No. 197
be approved for a Change of Zone from 'S' to PR-4 on the first portion
of the parcel and from 'S' to PC(4) for the westerly 9 acres of the
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parcel . Commissioner Mills seconded the motion.
Chairman Wilson asked if there was any further discussion.
Commissioner Berkey stated that he agreed with the PC(4) designation
but questioned the PR-4 effect on resort hotel development.
Mr. Williams stated that a "4" designation was not a factor in
hotel development.
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Chairman Wilson stated that he was concerned when he looked at the
overall Zoning Map and saw a lot of PC(4) and R-3 zoning and he
was afraid we were getting too much hotel development within the
City. He stated that his main reservation pertaining to Commissioner
Kelly's motion was that it was too restrictive.
Commissioner's Kelly motion carried 3-1, with the following vote:
Ayes: Berkey, Kelly, Mills
Noes: Wi,l son
Abstain: Reading
D. CASE NO. C/Z 08-76, CITY OF PALM DESERT, APPLICANT
Planning Commission initiated Change of Zone on approximately
8.5 acres, generally located at the northeast corner of Mag-
nesia Falls Drive and Portola Avenue, from 'S' (Study) to
R-E, 40,000 (Residential Estate, 40,000 Square Foot Lots) , or
other appropriate zones.
Mr. Williams presented the staff report to the Commission and
explained that this parcel was considered during the General
Plan Hearing and also the Zoning Map Hearing. During these
hearings, many zones were considered ranging from Commercial
to Multi-Family with a decision finally being made to place
the parcel in an 'S' zone. Mr. Williams asked the Commission
to consider the numerous impacts on the parcel ; such as : its
proximity to the "wash" , to Portola Avenue (which is a major
arterial ) , and to the school and recreational facilities. Due
to these impacts, staff felt that a PR-3 designation would be
appropriate; therefore, the staff was recommending approval of
Planning Commission Resolution No. 198 and forwarding the recom-
mendation of PR-3 to the City Council .
Commissioner Berkey asked staff how they had come up with the PR-3
designation and that he was questioning the density.
Mr. Williams stated that staff was looking at the usable portion
of the property after you subtracted the streets, "wash" , etc.
Further, he stated that staff felt that the majority of the
development would have to occur close to Portola Avenue.
Commissioner Berkey stated that he wanted a greater density, perhaps
4or5.
Chairman Wilson opened the Public Hearing at this time on C/Z 08-76
and asked if there was anyone present who wished to speak to the Com-
mission in FAVOR of staff's recommendation for a Change of Zone to
PR-3. Being no one, he then asked if there was anyone present who
wished to speak in OPPOSITION to the proposed Change of Zone.
LU FRANK GOODMAN, 73-655 Shadow Mountain Drive, spoke to the Com-
Z mission and stated that he had no financial interests in the
property. He did state, however, that he felt the Commission
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should leave this property in an S zone until a developer
comes in. He then stated that Dr. Rigby, who is the owner of
the property, did not get a notice of the Public Hearing.
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Further, he stated that he did not see how the Commission could
make a decision without the property owner being present.
2' Chairman Wilson stated that he sympathized with Mr. Goodman's feelings;
however, the Change of Zone was given the proper public notification
and the property owners were sent notifications of the Public Hearing.
Chairman Wilson asked if there was anyone else who wished to give
testimony regarding this particular Change of Zone. Being no one,
he closed the Public Hearing on C/Z 08-76 and asked the Commission
to take the matter under consideration.
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Commissioner Kelly stated that she was in favor of either the R-E,
40,000 designation or a PR-1 designation due to the fact that she
was against a higher density because of the problems in the area;
such as : drainage, schools, recreation facilities, etc.
Commissioner Mills stated he had no comments to make.
Commissioner Reading asked staff if there were any alternatives for
this odd-shaped piece of property.
Mr. Williams stated that this parcel had been wrestled with
many times and that staff felt a PR designation was the best
way to go in order to mitigate the problems and concerns of
the Commission.
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Commissioner Berkey stated that he was inclined to vote for a contin-
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Chairman Wilson stated that perhaps the R-E, 40,000 designation was
< too limiting and that maybe a PR-2 designation might be a good com-
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out of the 'S' zone and putting it into a lower density zone.
Commissioner Kelly moved that the Planning Commission approve Resolu-
tion No. 198, recommending to the City Council that the property (Case
No. C/Z 08-76) be re-zoned as PR-1. Commissioner Reading seconded the
motion.
Chairman Wilson asked if there was any further discussion.
Mr. Williams asked if this Change of Zone would be for the
same reasons as pointed out in the original resolution.
Commissioner Kelly answered yes.
The motion was carried 4-1, with the following vote:
' Ayes: Kelly, Mills, Reading, Wilson
Noes: Berkey
E. CASE NO. C/Z 09-76, CITY OF PALM DESERT, APPLICANT
Planning Commission initiated Change of Zone on approximately
18 acres, located at the northwest corner of 44th Avenue and
Cook Street, from 'S' (Study) to PR-6, S.P. (Planned Residen-
tial , Six Units Per Acre, Scenic Preservation Overlay) , or
other appropriate zones.
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Mr. Williams presented the staff report and explained that
his property was now vacant. He also explained that this
particular piece of property was important due to its close
proximity to two major arterials; namely, the 110 foot 44th
Avenue and the 88 foot Cook Street. Further, he explained
that even with the potential of a high school on the 40-acre
site to the north, the subject property was located in an
area that has been predominantly zoned residential . Finally,
he stated that staff was recommending approval of Planning
Commission Resolution No. 199 for a Change of Zone to PR-6,
S.P. and forwarding of same to the City Council for approval .
woo Chairman Wilson opened the Public Hearing on the above case and asked
if there was anyone present who wished to speak in FAVOR of the pro-
posed Change of Zone. Being no one, he then asked if there was anyone
present who wished to speak in OPPOSITION to the proposed Change of
Zone. Being no one, he then closed the Public Hearing on C/Z 09-76
and asked the Commission to take the matter under consideration.
Commissioner Berkey moved to adopt Planning Commission Resolution No.
199, with staff's recommendation of a PR-6, S.P. zone designation.
Commissioner Kelly seconded the motion; motion unanimously carried.
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Chairman Wilson called a brief recess at 8:47 p.m. The meeting was
reconvened at 9:00 p.m.
F. CASE NO. PM 8810, JO CRAIL McCART, APPLICANT
Consideration of a Parcel Map to divide an 81,000 square foot
parcel into two (2) parcels of 10,000 square feet and 71,000
square feet respectively, on property located at the northwest
corner of Larrea Street and Prickly Pear Lane.
Mr. Fleshman presented the staff report and explained that
the Commission had reviewed the working drawings for the
new building to be located on this parcel at their last
meeting and had approved same. Further, he explained that
the purpose of the Parcel Map was for financing purposes
only; that the ownership would remain in one entity with
separate financing to be provided.
Chairman Wilson asked if there were any questions of staff at this time.
Being none, he then opened the Public Hearing and asked if the applicant
was present.
JO CRAIL McCART, 73-860 Larrea Street, spoke to the Commission
and stated she was the owner of the property under considera-
tion. Further, she stated that she was making this application
for loan purposes only.
Chairman Wilson asked Ms. McCart if she was in full agreement with
the staff report and staff's recommended conditions of approval .
Ms. McCart answered yes.
Chairman Wilson asked if there was anyone present wishing to give
testimony either in FAVOR of or OPPOSED to this Parcel Map. Being
no one, he then closed the Public Hearing on Case No. PM 8810.
Chairman Wilson asked that the resolution be corrected to include a
""' phrase regarding the fact that a duly noticed Public Hearing was held.
Being no questions, comments, or objections, Chairman Wilson stated
that a motion would be in order.
Commissioner Reading moved to approve Planning Commission Resolution
No. 200, as corrected, approving PM 8810. Commissioner Mills seconded
the motion; motion unanimously carried.
G. CASE NO. PM 8740, SUN LODGE LTD, PARTNERSHIP, APPLICANT
Consideration of a Parcel Map to divide a 4.53 acre parcel into
two (2) parcels of 4.25 acres and 10,000 square feet respectively,
on property located at the northwest corner of Sun Lodge Lane and
E1 Paseo.
Mr. Fleshman presented the staff report on this case and
explained that it was reviewed by both staff and the City
Engineer and that the Parcel Map met all the requirements
of the Municipal Code and the State Subdivision Map Act, as
amended. Further, the City Engineer had agreed with staff's
recommended conditions of approval . Therefore, staff was
recommending approval of Planning Commission Resolution Num-
ber 201.
Chairman Wilson asked if there were any questions of staff at this time.
Being none, he then opened the Public Hearing on Case No. PM 8740 and
asked if the applicant was present.
BERNARD LEUNG, 73-960 E1 Paseo, stated he was the architect
for the project but that it was not necessary for him to
speak.
November 30, 1976 Page Ten
Chairman Wilson asked if there was anyone present wishing to speak
either in FAVOR of or OPPOSED to this Parcel Map. Being no one,
he then closed the Public Hearing and asked the Commission for their
feelings.
Commissioner Berkey moved to adopt Planning Commission Resolution No.
201, approving the Parcel Map, and as corrected to include a phrase
regarding the duly noticed Public Hearing. Commissioner Reading seconded
the motion; motion unanimously carried.
VII. OLD BUSINESS
None
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VIII. NEW BUSINESS
A. REQUEST FOR COMMENTS FOR RIVERSIDE COUNTY P.D. ON TT 8672
Mr. Williams explained that the City had received a request
for comments on a 30-acre, 130-lot subdivision to be located
on Warner Trail , adjacent to the Palm Desert Country Club.
Further, he stated that the Commission was to review this
tract as if it were located within the Palm Desert City Limits
and that staff was recommending the forwarding of seven com-
ments to the County pertaining to said tract.
Commissioner Mills asked if this was a normal procedure.
Mr. Williams answered that yes, this was the normal procedure
according to the Joint Planning Agreement between the County
and the City of Palm Desert.
Commissioner Mills moved that the Secretary be authorized to forward
staff' s comments with regards to TT 8672 to the Riverside County Plan-
ning Commission. Commissioner Kelly seconded the motion; motion unani-
mously carried.
IX. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS
A. REVIEW OF THE NOVEMBER 23, 1976 DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING.
Mr. Williams asked that the Commission make a note that a
correction would be needed in the Resolution, changing
the first case's applicant to read CHRIS HAENEL as opposed
to JO CRAIL McCART.
Mr. Williams then explained that the Design Review Board had
met on November 23, 1976 and at that time had considered
four separate cases which were embodied in the above mentioned
resolution, with their attached conditions of approval . Mr.
Williams then recommended that Case No. 40C be deleted from
the resolution and discussed separately in order to speed
up the main discussion.
Mr. Fleshman then presented the three remaining cases from
the Design Review Board meeting.
The first case to be presented was CASE NO. 42C, preliminary
drawings for a new commercial building for ROGER MEYER. Mr.
..► Fleshman explained that the Design Review Board had approved
these preliminary drawings, subject to 15 conditions of appro-
val . Mr. Fleshman also presneted copies of the above mentioned
drawings to the Commission and explained them in detail .
The Commission seemed to be concerned about the condition of approval
requiring sidewalks. Commissioner Berkey stated that it should go on
record that the policy of the Commission was to require the installation
of sidewalks.
There was a short discussion regarding the sidewalk issue.
November 30. 1976 Page Eleven
The next case presented by Mr. Fleshman was CASE NO. 48MF,
five model homes for the PARKVIEW SUBDIVISION for FRANK
GOODMAN. Mr. Fleshman presented the preliminary drawings
and materials for this project to the Commission and stated
that the Design Review Board had approved the project, sub-
ject to some 15 conditions of approval. Mr. Fleshman also
a reminded the Commission that they had reviewed the Tract Map
o for this subdivision approximately a month ago and had approved
U-1 t.
Mr. Fleshman further explained that the five units would be
1n located at Rutledge Way and Portola Avenue and that no two
> > , units were alike. Further, the units varied distinctly in
Z fIx appearance and ranged in size from 12,050 square feet to
16,000 square feet.
Both Chairman Wilson and Commissioner Kelly asked for clarification or
rewording of Conditions No. 13 and No. 14.
Staff agreed, and Mr. Williams gave the following rewording:
13. All drawings shall be corrected to conform to the
approved plans.
14. The roof treatment on Plan 402 shall be restudied and
resubmitted for approval .
The final case to be presented by Mr. Fleshman was CASE NO.
18SA, the sign program for PLAZA TAXCO by CURT DUNHAM. Mr.
Fleshman presented the proposed sign program to the Commis-
sion and stated that the Design Review Board had approved
said program subject to 5 conditions of approval .
Mr. Fleshman then asked the Commission to approve Planning
Commission Resolution No. 202, approving the Design Review
Board actions, to include their action on Case No. 42C, 48MF,
and 18SA, and the revisions to the conditions of approval for
Case No. 48MF.
Commissioner Mills moved to adopt Planning Commission Resolution No. 202.
Commissioner Reading seconded the motion. The motion carried 4-1, with
the following vote:
a i Ayes: Berkey, Kelly, Mills, Reading
ace, Noes: Wilson
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Chairman Wilson stated that the reason he had voted no was because he
was in favor of having sidewalks installed throughout the commercial
U area and that he hoped his vote would not reflect on the project.
Mr. Fleshman then stated that the next case to be discussed
would be CASE NO. 40C, working drawings for a new commercial
building for CHRIS HAENEL.
Commissioner Kelly asked to be excused from the discussion due to a
possible conflict of interest. She then left the Council Chambers.
Mr. Fleshman presented the working drawings to the Commission
and stated that the Design Review Board had approved these
drawings at their November 23rd meeting. Therefore, staff
was recommending approval of Resolution No. 203, approving
the Design Review Board action.
Commissioner Reading moved that the Planning Commission approve Resolu-
tion No. 203. Commissioner Berkey seconded the motion; motion carried
4-0, with Commissioner Kelly abstaining.
X. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
November 30, 1976 Page Twelve
XI. COMMENTS
A. City Staff
Mr. Williams informed the Commission that another meeting of
the Redevelopment Study would be held on Wednesday, December
8, 1976, at 7:00 p.m. He invited the Commissioners to attend
the meeting.
Mr. Williams then reminded the Commission that the Sign Ordinance
Hearing was scheduled for the next Planning Commission meeting to
be held on December 14, 1976.
B. City Attorney
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None
C. Planning Commissioners
Commissioner Kelly stated that she felt it was extremely important
for the Commission to receive the Design Review Board minutes in
order to obtain what input was received on the projects.
There was a short discussion regarding the Zoning Ordinance and
the section pertaining to Conditional Uses under the R-E zone
as applied to horses.
Chairman Wilson stated that he hoped staff would make an effort
to get the C.O.D. Specific Plan completed on time.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Mills moved to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner Berkey
seconded the motion and the meeting was adjourned at 9:54 p.m.
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Mr. Paul A. Williams, Secretary
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Post Office Box 1648
Palm Desert, California 92260
RE: Your Memo dated November 17 , 1976
Dear Paul:
I checked with the County Planning Commission to
see if they had an ordinance covering the question posed
in your memo of November 17th regarding written authoriza-
tion to speak. They do not have an ordinance covering
this matter, but it is departmental policy to require such
written authorization from a party who does not own the
property he represents .
If such a problem presents itself at a meeting,
the party should be informed that he must have a written
authorization from the owner of the property stating that
he is the owner of a designated parcel and that Blank is
designated as his agent to speak for and on behalf of the
owner before all boards , commissions and councils of the
city of Palm Desert.
Should you have any further questions , please con-
tact me.
Yours very truly,
DAVID J. ERWIN
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CITY OF PALM DESERT
2254 Montrose Lane 73-710 El Paseo
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ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES
December 14, 1976
CUy Of, PAW DESERT.
Planning Commission
Palm Desert, Ca.
Gentlemen:
There are two things that could be accomplished that
would benefit our city.
tow Enact some type of planning or rules that would leave
the vacant balance of El Paseo to retail businesses or
at least 75% of the remaining property.
The major fear this area should have is the competition
of a new shopping center perhaps just slightly beyond our
city limits. This day can be forestalled by leaving room
for additional merchants to come to Palm Desert. If there
is no room, they will go elsewhere.
In our industry, retail women's apparel, Palm Desert is
capable of twice the present volume, the town has doubled
it's apparel business in the last three years.
Also I hope the sign ordinance is such that it precludes
signs on windows, except for perhaps the smallest most
necessary ones, perhaps 2% of the total window area?
When we first came to PDJ one of the most negative thoughts
we had was the raunchy signs stuck in store windows unlike
any, other prestigeous shopping area we had visited.
Tou must protect merchants from themselves, one sees a
bad sign in his neighbor's window so he feels he must have
one in equal bad taste and perhaps twice as big,
If I can be of any benefit, I wouldbe hap-)y to si A.
Henry F. Hoyle
P.S
Banks and Savings and Loans are detriment to a
shopping area...you do not find banks occupying
major space in conventional shopping centers.. . .
they also should not occupy major space in this
unconventional center.
F1 Paseo can use all the help it can get, it might
be successful now but it is a dinosaur as shopping
areas go as most of the "strip" shopping streets
r.r have disappeared from the American scene and this
one could easily become a street of empty stores
when an air conditioned mall became competition.
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To: Planning Commission
From: Retail Merchants Division, Palm Desert Chamber of Commerce
(1)
By; George D. Kryder
Nester Noe
We have the following comments to make, based on the revisions suggested
by the City Staff, and on further reading of the ordinance in total.
Vehicle Identification Signs
In our original comment, several reasons were given to support the
contention that there should be no regulation of vehicle signs.
The proposed revisions still are not specific in this regard.
The intent of the section relating to this, as outlined in a City Staff
report dated July 14th, reads as follows:
The intent of the section is to prevent business operators from putting
signs on vehicles and parking vehicles in front of their business to
obtain additional sign area."
This intent should be so stated by the ordinance, both in the Vehicle
Identification section, and in the section relating to signs on public
property or right of way.
Our primary concern is that there be no regulation of size, color, or
type of sign on vehicles as normally used in the course of everyday
business. This should apply whether the vehicle be based within, or
outside of the City.
The ordinance, as written, does not give this protection. In this in-
stance, and in others as well, it would seem simpler to designate what
is not to be regulated than to attempt to cover all possible contin-
gencies on the other side.
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(2)
Temporary Signs
Under the revisions proposed, and allowance is made ior the use cL
temporary signs. We approve of this addition, but havf fo11:
comments:
The section does not define what is a temporary sign, nor is this
described in any other part of the ordinance. We suggest that it be
defined, or, if this is not practicable, a qualifying phrase such as
that used with the section on "Sale" signs be added. i.e."when such
signs are improperly used, they constitute a public nuisance, and, as
such, may be abated" This is to prevent abuses which we foresee if the
section stands as written.
Open-Closed signs
It is noted that there is no mention of the commonly used "open-closed"
" signs found in the windows of most businesses. We think that these
signs should be covered in the new ordinance, with the following
qualifications:
(1) Allowable size to be compatable with the double-faced "open-closed"
signs most commonly used, arl available commercially.
(2) Area of such signs is not to be deducted from the allowable area
of other permitted signs covered by the ordinance.
General
In our meeting with the City Staff, we have brought up two points during
our discussions which have not found their way into the revisions sub-
sequently proposed by the Staff.
These relate to the number of colors allowed on signs, and to the
too composition of the Ad Hoc sign Committee.
(3)
tow We are still on the opinion that the restriction of signs to four
colors is unwarranted and arbitrary, especially when both black and
white are be be considered as colors for purposes of the ordinance„
We make the presumption that it is not impossible to create a sign
with more than four colors, and still have compatibility with the aims
of the ordinance. We maintain that a sign owner should be permitted
to present any sign for approval if he feels that the colors in the
sign work to his advantage.
We would further point out that the Design Review Board has the
capability of making color changes under at least two sub-sections
of the ordinance, and that with this authority, there should be no
need to put specific restrictions upon something as indefinable as
color compatibility.
As to the Ad Hoc Amortization Committee, it is felt that the member-
ship, as now proposed, will not properly represent the retail businesses
of the City. And incidentally, it is precisely these people who will
be most affected by the new ordinance.
As the proposal now stands, it is entirely possible that no representa-
tive from retail business would be serving on the Committee.
Therefore, we suggest that under item (b) one of the "fields of
endeavor" be changed to "Retail Business"
We have farther comment on sub-paragraph 2 of this same section which
also relates to selection of members of the Ad Hoc Committee from
membership of the Chamber of Commerce and the Board of Realtors.
It is provided that both of these organizations submit three names
(4)
so that the City Council may then select one from each for the
Committee.
It is our feeling that both the Chamber and the Board of Realtors
are entirely capable of choosing the person whom they feel can best
represent their interests on the Committee. We see no valid reason
for the City Council to be in a position to over-rule the primary
choice of either the Chamber or the Board of Realtors
(5)
I will close by making the following personal observation, and will
again refer to the City Staff report of Aug. 14th. On Page 1 of this
report, there is the following statement. "The intent of the Ordinance
has always been directed toward providing the Maximum amount of super-
vision and control by the City. (underlining added)
How discomforting it is to read that our City employees desire this
type of power.
How nice it would have been to read that the intent of the Staff was to
provide the control and guidance necessary to serve the purposes and
intent of the Ordinance, or some such positive statement of policy.
Nevertheless, the Chamber, the Planning Coamni.ssion, the City Council
and Staff have written what I consider a well rounded and enforcable
ordinance that should serve the City well.