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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
WEDNESDAY - DECEMBER 14 , 1977
7 : 00 PM - CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
I . CALL TO ORDER
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Palm Desert Planning
Commission was called to order by Chairman Berkey at 7 : 00 p .m. in the
Council Chambers in the Palm Desert City Hall.
II . PLEDGE - Commissioner Kelly
III . ROLL CALL
Present : Commissioner KELLY
Commissioner KRYDER
Commissioner READING
Commissioner SNYDER
Chairman BERKEY
Others
Present : Paul A. Williams - Director of Environmental Services
Ralph Cipriani - Associate Planner
Clyde Beebe - Acting City Engineer
Kathy Shorey - Planning Secretary
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. MINUTES of the regular meeting of the Planning Commission
of November 29, 1977.
Mr . Williams asked that the following corrections be made :
Page 1 , last paragraph, add "procedures" after Public
Hearing.
Page 3, 3rd paragraph from top , after JACK CONLON, add
"President of Sunrise Corp . "
B. MINUTES of the special meeting of the Planning Commission
of December 6, 1977.
Mr . Williams asked that the following correction be made :
Page 4, last paragraph of the Public Hearing section ,
delete "closed" and add "continued to December 14, 1977
at 7 : 00 p.m. "
On a motion by Commissioner Reading, seconded by Commissioner
Kelly, the minutes of the November 29, 1977 and December 6 , 1977,
were approved as amended by a unanimous vote (5-0) .
V. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
Mr. Williams noted that all written communications received
would be covered under the public hearings.
VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairman Berkey announced that prior to this meeting, the Com-
mission had met in a Study Session for the purpose of clarifying the
staff recommendations. No decisions were reached. Chairman Berkey
then explained the Public Hearing procedures to those present .
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
December 14, 1977 Page Two
VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS (Cont . )
A. Continued Case No. GPA 02-77 (EIR) - The City of Palm
Desert , Applicant .
Consideration of the Final Environmental Impact Report
for the College of the Desert Area Specific Plan .
Mr. Williams reviewed the case and noted late correspondence1
received from Mainiero, Smith and Assoc . representing the Palm De-
sert Community Services District (Exhibit A) and a letter from the
Palm Desert Property Owners Association (Exhibit B) . He then noted
that all the information received from outside sources , the draft , &
input received at this Public Hearing and the previous one would be
forwarded with the Commissions recommendations to the City Council
for their approval .
Chairman Berkey asked Mr. Williams to review the changes
that have been recommended by the Staff and Commission so that the
people are aware of the changes .
Mr. Williams noted that the main issue is the water problem
on the north side that Mr . Robert Mainiero is present to speak to
the Commission regarding this issue .
Chairman Berkey declared the Public Hearing open and asked
Mr. Mainiero to speak to the Commission .
ROBERT MAINIERO, representing Mainiero, Smith and Assoc.
Civil & Environmental Engineering firm, spoke represent-
ing the Palm Desert Community Services District .
Commissioner Kryder asked for some comment on the water pres-
sure problem on the north side which was the main issue brought out
at the December 6th meeting.
Mr . Mainiero stated that the District is installing a
pump control on San Pablo and improving the pumps on
Portola. Also a new pump station will be installed
near San Pablo and Alessandro. He indicated that these
improvements would improve the existing water pressure
problem.
Commissioner Snyder asked if the Water District had a plan
for completion of these proposed projects to give the people some
kind of assurance that they would be done.
Mr. Mainiero stated that some of the projects have al-
ready been completed and that the problem has been ex-
aggerated. He mentioned some commercial developments
that have had a problem but that the problems were
solved after consulting the Water District .
Chairman Berkey noted that a plan or forecast would be help-
ful to the Commission and that they would appreciate receiving such
a plan from the Water District . The Commission thanked Mr. Mainiero
for his time .
CHARLES TRITT asked if there were any immediate plans
for drainage in the area.
Chairman Berkey noted that was a budgetary issue and that
the City Council would be considering this in the spring of 1978 and
that it was at the top of the list of financial matters.
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
December 14, 1977 Page Three
VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS (Cont . )
A. Case No . GPA 02-77 (EIR) (Cont . )
KIGER BARTON, 44519 San Anselmo, stated that some
landscaping is needed around the water tank at
San Pablo.
Chairman Berkey asked if there were any questions by the
Commissioners. Being none, he declared the, Public Hearing closed.
Commissioner Kelly stated in reference to the supplemental
report of the December 6th meeting regarding the date groves. She
suggested that they be extended from 40 acres to 72 acres as a pre-
serve as suggested by the naturalist from the Riverside County Parks
Dept
// ?g Williams indicated that this would be added to the Miti-
/ atin"ff section on Open Space, page VII-V-1 .
On a motion by Commissioner Snyder, seconded by Commissioner
Kelly, the Commission adopted Planning Commission Resolution No . 314
certifying the final EIR as complete with the addition as stated;
carried unanimously (5-0) .
B. Continued Case No. GPA 02-77 - The City of Palm Desert ,
Applicant .
Consideration of an amendment to the Palm Desert General
Plan to include the provisions of the College of the
Desert Area Specific Plan .
tow Mr . Williams reviewed the staff report and covered the various
changes recommended by staff as a result of the Neighborhood meetings
and the Public Hearing of December 6 , 1977. Main points were : Neigh-
borhood #1 - medium density instead of high density; Neighborhood #2 -
proposed site for a civic center and park; Neighborhood #4 - keep med-
ium density and delete the tot lot ; Neighborhood #5 - remain the same ;
and Neighborhood #3 - delete the tot lot and the two parks , right-of-
way lowered to 126 ft . from 144 on Monterey & bicycle path deleted along
Whitewater. In addition the Whitewater Storm Channel could be used as
an equestrian trail site unless it would be used for private use; the
City would provide $3 million of the $7. 5 million needed for the plan ,-
new developments would pay for 50 to 60% of the improvements needed;
drainage improvements are a number 1 item and the City has already
applied for grants; and, the possibility of El Paseo extended to Fair-
haven to be 66 ft . wide not 100 ft . wide.
Chairman Berkey asked if the Commissioners had any questions
for Mr. Williams. Commissioner Kelly asked for the reasoning behind
the deletion of the bike path. Mr. Williams stated that it is a dup-
lication of the path planned for Magnesia Falls and that the wash is
closed into Rancho Mirage .
Chairman Berkey declared the Public Hearing open and asked if
anyone wished to speak on the General Plan Amendment at this time .
JOYCE MCALLISTER, 44-544 Monterey, presented a
summary of further objections to the proposed
10 acre park (Exhibit C) .
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
December 14, 1977 Page Four
VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS (Cont . )
B. Case No. GPA 02-77 (Cont . )
ROSE HELBING, 73-430 Royal Palm Dr. , addressed the
Commission and told of her concern for the need for
��T ,%idewalks . Her reasoning being that they help child-
sol'� ' L5e+n develop more fully, both brainwise and physically.
j ? KIGER BARTON, 44519 San Anselmo, commended the Plan-
ning Commission and the Planning Department for there
good job and courteous service . He asked whether the
City Council could still act on the park, and if the
citizens should still worry about its implementation .
Commissioner Snyder stated that the Planning Commission makes
a recommendation and then the City Council acts on it .
THOMAS POWERS, 44670 San Antonio Circle, thanked the
Commission and Mr . Williams for thinking of the people .
ROBIN BARRET, 44393 Lingo Lane , stated that "constant
vigil will take care of all the ramifications, hang in
tight kids and we ' ll all go together . "
Chairman Berkey declared the Public Hearing closed and asked
for the pleasure of the Commission . On a motion by Commissioner
Reading, seconded by Commissioner Kryder, it was moved to approve the
Case No. GPA 02-77 with the noted additions and corrections . Commis-
sioner Kelly asked that it be noted that she accepted all the reasons
for the deletion of the park but that she felt one of the main reasons
people move to the area is because of the open space and we all should
keep in mind that land should be preserved for open space in the +err
future . The motion was carried unanimously (5-0) .
THERE WAS A BRIEF RECESS AT 8:10 P.M. THE MEETING WAS REODNVENED AT 8:20 P.M.
VII . OLD BUSINESS - None
VIII . NEW BUSINESS - None
IX. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS
A. Review of Cases acted on by the Design Review Board at
their meeting of December 6 , 1977.
Mr. Cipriani reviewed Case No . 63C and noted that the DRB' s
main concerns were stated in Special Conditions No. 6 through 10.
He then noted the revised plans and noted the changes that had been
made.
Commissioner Kryder asked the builder how the water problem
issue was being handled.
TED SESKEY, builder, noted that a ground material
pAIDEVand a sealant would be used to prevent the water
w l �rom seaping.
78 ommission noted there approval of the revised plans and Mr.
Cipriani noted that the revised plans would also show handicapped
parking spaces.
On a motion by Commissioner Kelly, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder, it was moved that the actions of the DRB on December 6, 1977
be approved by Planning Commission Resolution No. 316 ; carried unani-
mously (5-0) .
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
December 14, 1977 Page Five
X. DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mr . Williams noted that a list of proposed zone changes would
be presented at the Study Session in January.
XI . ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
XII . COMMENTS
A. City Staff - None
B. City Attorney - Not present
C. Planning Commissioners
Commissioner Snyder complimented the Staff on the extra effort
made to complete the COD Area Specific Plan report that made it so
acceptable .
Chairman Berkey referred to the December 6th meeting and the
remarks regarding outlying park sites . He noted that there is 300
acres of land by the dike held by the Bureau of Land Management and
possibly it could be considered for a park and open space. He also
asked that the future of Highwaylll be discussed at a future Study
Session and that the Commission give serious consideration to the
traffic on Highway 111 as is Indian Wells. He then suggested that
the Commission have a representative from the State Highway Department
talk at a Study Session and invite Gary Weidle of CVAG and Commissioners
from adjoining cities to ;.attend.
XIII . ADJOURNMENT
On a motion by Commissioner Reading, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder the meeting was adjourned at 8 : 30 p .m. ; carried unanimously
(5-0) .
PAUL A. WILLIAMS , Secretary
ATTEST:
GEORGE ERKEY, Chairm n
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EXHIBIT A
Mainiero, _Smith and Associates, Inc.
Civil d Environmental Engineering
Professional Plaza•Suite 3
2225 East Tahquitz-McCallum Way,Palm Springs,California 92262
Telephone (714) 327-8544
December 13 , 1977
i
Mr. Paul Williams , Director
Department of Environmental Services
City of Palm Desert
45-275 Prickly Pear Lane -
Palm Desert , California 9226+0-
Re: Request for Comments
College of the Desert Area Specific Plan
Dear Mr. Williams : _
This letter is in response to your request for
comments on the College of the Desert Specific Plan
and related Environmental Impact Report . We have
reviewed the documents as they relate to the Palm
Desert Community Services District . Please note
the following :
1. In the area within the limits of the Palm
Desert Community Services District we see
no adverse impact different from that which
would result from development in accordance
with the existing zoning. If anything there
appears to be a decrease in overall density.
2 . The District is currently making improvements
to the water supply and distribution system
to meet the current requirements of the subject
area as well as the rest of the District.
3 . Future requirements will be met concurrently
with new development lrrimarily at the expense
of the new development.
4. The District is currently updating its master
plan for water supply and distribution and
will take into account the changes proposed by
the Specific Plan should the plan be approved.
Mr. Paul Williams , Director
December 13 , 1977
Page Two
5 . We acknowledge that large quantities of water
-. will be required for a golf course or for green-
belt areas , which might be available from the
Coachella Valley County Water District Cook
Street Water Reclamation Plant .
6 . In the Draft Environmental Impact Report under
Part III , Number 11, Utility Impacts , the gene—
ration factor for water is low at 275 gallons
per day per dwelling unit . A figure of 600
gallons per day per dwelling until is recommended
(225 gal/cap/day x 2 . 68 cap/dwelling unit) . If
this figure is used for water the resulting
sewage would be ap-7roximately 300 gallons per day
per dwelling unit as stated.
If you have any questions regarding the above please
feel free to contact us . We will be available at the
Public Hearing on December 14, 1977 to answer any questions
which may arise relative to the Palm Desert Community Services-
District Water System. _
Very truly yours ,
MAINIERO, SMITH AND ASSOCIATES , INC-.
RM/is
cc: Stanley Sayles , President
Palm Desert Community Services District
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Mainiero, Smith and Associates,Inc.
sional Plaza• Suite 3• 2r225 East Tahquitz-McCallum Way• Palm Springs,California 92262• Telephone (714) 327-8544
EXHIBIT B
PALM DESERT PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION
PALM DESERT PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION
73-833 EL PASEO PALM DESERT,CALIFORNIA 92260
+�r..► TELEPHONE 346-2804
A Non-Profit Corporation
9 December 1977
Marty Bouman
City I-Tanager
City of Palm Desert
45--275 Pricklev pear
Palm Desert , Ca. 92260
Dear Marty :
We annreciate the opportunity to review the COD Snecific plan
and Environmental Impact Renort .
Our Growth Manaement Committee spent considerable time studying
the elan and after review by the Palm Desert Property Owners
Association Board of Directors we wish to submit our comments as
outlined in the attachment .
The Board was una-miously concerned with the cost and time frame
concernin7- the execution of this plan.
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We will follow the develonment of the plan with interest and
would annreciate being kert informed of its incremental nrogress .
Sincerely ,
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(7"eor7 greet
GS -ks Presi ent
EVALUATION Or THE PAL71 DESERT COLLEGE OF THE DESERT
SPECI^IC PLAN AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT
The Palm Desert Property Owners Association has liven careful
study and consideration to the subject plan and makes the follow-
inq comments :
1. Support the plan subject to relatively minor
modifications .
2 . We conp:ratulate the Palm Desert Department of
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Environmental Services on the thoroughness and
careful nrenaration of the PlAn and its Impact
Report .
3. That we urge the City Council continue to make
the details broadly available to the public and
publicize hearings on the sub -ect to nermit
citizen imnut .
In sunportin7 the general direction of the Plan the PDPOA reserves
the right to—question certain provisions , ask for more information
and make alternative sug7,estions .
We believe the no action be taken to implement the Plan until :
1. The flood problem has been resolved.
2 . The final drainage plan has been adopted.
3. A specific time-table of steps to be taken shall
be nrepared with cost projection for each step
and a forecast of where the funds shall come from.
At the Citv' s request the I?DPOA will be happy to discuss , in detail ,
certain questions and reservations we hold.
Again, let the committee emphasize that we believe the r_lan to be in
the right direction and that step by step implementation over an
extended neriod would be highly desirable .
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EXHIBIT C
SU iv412CY Or eUrtinan :;ec. 14, 157.
I think ,:e can su-,laarize the entire discussion of the proposed 10 acre
Park in a few either-or sentences:
I. Either the existing facilities are sufficient or they are not.
II. If they are not, then either the proposed site is a wise choice
or it is not.
III. In eith,-r case, either the residents for who-a the p�k is >>ntended
and by whom the burden of purchase en6 maintenance will be born, will
decide... or they will not. _
I. Now, concerning the first anoint, I mentioned at last week's _neetirir`
that I felt that an additional 10 acre neighborhood park in the proposed
area would be superflous, and I stated my reasons for my opposition to
it. (Exhibit B in the urinates.) The existing recreational facilities
Co not have maximum use even at tho present time. A3:parently there are
= more lost beer cans to be found there than lost baseballs. And let me
underline the fact that the bulk of the land and population of Palm
Desert is on the southside of Iiij hway 111; is in much greater need of
a park; and I believe that the city already o..ns approximately 29 acres
that would awake an excellent location for a park# i.;: the people so
desired.
II. Now, for the sake of argu..ient, let us assume that I am varong,
and that the existing facilities are not sufficient, neither on the
northside:or on the southside. Is the proposed site a wise c:oiee?
I say no, and for the following reasons:, first of all, because of the
traffic problem. In the COD Specific i•lan Report, Section IV - 5,
it was recom:aended that a neighborhood park in the Palm Dell-palm Vista
Flock should be given a lo.v priority because of access proble::le cue to
he_;vy traffic problems on :ilonterey Ave, and 44th. Now, what about
access problems at the proposed 10 acre site, with only 300 feet of
front "ge on yZQnterey? Consider also the fd6t that ,;rnterey is to be
extended to Interstate 10, thus makinf; it a ve4z :major thorour;nfcre,
Connecting 10 to-iighviay 74 a^ well, thus turning, a neiirhborhood park
with a f�:.mily atmosphere into a city park used m inly for non-residents.
If this were not discouraging enough, add the fact thc;t the pro,aerty
across from the ;:ronosed site, west of :,onterey, is zoned co.miercinl...
The effects of furtler develoT)mont there on the proposed -p:sk ought
to be obvious enough. Add to this the feet that there is no buffer
none between the existing residences and. the proposec perk; the 24 hour
proble,l of vandU--. i= and other cruses in an area l:.rgely unsupervisable -
in the COD Sp. flan Report it was also stated that v;nd)lism has been
"an especially troublesome problem at the P.-1A. Te.ert C'omnunity Park
ail► '��i :and it is reasonable to expect that the difficulties will be compounded
S -by ,n increase in recreation facilities". If the people do want another
park, let the planning com"ission at least find a -site that would not
be a catalyst to crime. Per.iaps-adja:ieent to the new City .tall......
That location, for one, at least i,as none of the aforementi�ed defects.
4o�isNgoingc?'iiedeccis t11)s insu ' i q-in, nyt ieek °antP,epOor�;�nttis
stated that standards for park facilities "should reflect economic
costs and nei Y.orhood preferences and should be considered as flexible
in their application". Now, what is the people's preference? The
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