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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
WEDNESDAY - MAY 17, 1978
1 : 00 P.M. - CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
I . CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting of the Palm Desert Planning Commission
was called to order by Chairman Berkey at 1 : 00 p .m. in the Council
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Chambers of the Palm Desert City Hall .
II . PLEDGE - Commissioner Kelly
III . ROLL CALL
Present : Commissioner KELLY
Commissioner KRYDER
Commissioner SNYDER
Chairman BERKEY
Others
Present : Paul A. Williams - Director of Environmental Services
Ralph Cipriani - Associate Planner
Clyde Beebe - Director of Public Works
Kathy Shorey - Planning Secretary
IV . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. MINUTES of the regular meeting of 11�ay 2 , 1978 of the
Planning Commission .
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On a motion by Commissioner Kelly, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder, the minutes were approved as written; carried unanimously (4-0) .
V. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - None
VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairman Berkey explained the Public Hearing procedures to those
present .
A. Case No. C/Z O1-78 - INITIATED BY PALM DESERT PLANNING
COMMISSION
Request for approval of a Planning Commission initiated
Change of Zone for pre-zoning approximately 1 , 047 acres
from ' S ' Study to P.C. (2) (U.A. ) , R-2 8 , 000(8) (U.A . ) ,
R-1 12 , 000 (U.A . ) , PR-5 (U.A. ) , PR-4 (U.A. ) , O.S . (U.A. ) ,
PR-3 (U.A . ) , PR-10 U.A . ) or any other zone deemed appro-
priate on property generally located between Country
Club Drive and the Whitewater Storm Channel and between
Monterey Avenue and Cook Street .
�,, Mr. Williams reviewed the Staff Report and noted a map showing
the proposed zoning and circulation pattern . He also referred to a
letter received from Mr. Hirsch and his request for an average of
R-1-7, 500 sq. ft . as a zoning designation .
Chairman Berkey asked what the time restraints were on this mat-
ter. Mr. Williams noted that the Commission could deliberate indefi-
nently. Chairman Berkey asked for further reasoning with regard to
the R-2-8, 000 zone designation . Mr. Williams noted that it is adja-
cent to commercial and it is better to develop the commercial and re-
sidential together to help form a buffer for the rest of the develop-
ment .
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
May 17 , 1978 Page Two
Commissioner Kelly asked how accurate the summary of proposed
students in the area was. Mr. Williams noted that 70% of the amount
would probably be more accurate.
Commissioner Kryder noted that Mr . Hirsch' s reasons for an
average zoning of R-1-7500 sq. ft . are valid reasons and should be �'
considered. �,
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Chairman Berkey declared the Public Hearing and asked ifr���(� � �
there was anyone wishing to speak on the matter . ,���'` 6.� J'� �ri
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'� ` F. X. MCDONALD, Long Beach, owner of 40 acres on � � `
the southwest , southwest corner of Section 9, told
�/�(��- '�he Commission of his conversation with the various
�'1.�- `� neighbors in the area of his sand dunes and how
�� they and he were in favor of the Open Space desig-
' nation being change�. He also noted that the sand-
dunes are being destroyed by 4 things : the sage
brush, dune buggies , adjacent developments , and
the City protecting them. Mr. McDonald stated that
the whole area should be reserved as a sand dune
preserve or none of it .
114R. RAFF, owner of 3. 95 acres, a homestead parcel
located on Monterey and Hovely Lane , asked to have
it clarified how the proposed zoning would affect
the small land owner such as himself . Mr. Williams
stated that as the pre-zoning was being done as a
single project, individual property owners would be
exempt from the minimum site area required to obtain
a Change of Zone to the P-R zone . As a result , in-
dividual property owners would be able to develop
under the PR zone no matter what acreage they owned
once the pre-zoning is approved for the entire area. �
He further stated that this zoning designation would
limit the area to condos and residential homes . Chair-
man Berkey noted that the staff would then be the co-
ordinator for all the property in the area. Mr. Raff
stated that he must dedicate land for road use . Mr.
Williams noted that since Hovely Lane already exists
that there should be no problem.
RICHARD ARNOLD, 73-722 Santa Rosa, an adjacent developer
told of his experiences in other areas with sand dunes,
and he noted that adjacent development would stop the
sand dunes from being sand dunes as it takes sand to
make sand dunes.
EUNICE PIERSON, representing Mr. Hirsch, noted that
Mr. Hirsch would appreciate further consideration of
his request for 8,000 sq. ft . average per lot .
SID HANDY, Aster Drive, 18 year resident , spoke in op-
position to a open space in the middle of the City.
MRS . JOHN QUINN, stated she had a petition with 56-58
signatures against the open space zoning, noting that =
it is a poor concept . �
DENNIS HEALY, Attorney for Mr . McDonald, spoke in op-
position to the open space zoning and presented pictures
of the sand dunes in the area.
JIM MCKEE , 73-506 Joshua Tree , owner at Portola Country
Club, stated his opposition to the open space zoning.
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
May 17, 1978 Page Three
VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS (Cont . )
A. Case No . C/Z 01-78 (Cont . )
GEORGE MARZICOLA, Fresident of Country Club Property
Owners Association , noted he is generally in agreement
with the proposed zoning and annexation. He stated
that the extension of streets and the improvements
of others should be taken into consideration with a
� bridge considered on Cook Street . Further he noted
that the Association is opposed to annexations because
of the Excise Tax involved.
RICHARD GUELICH, Santa Cruz, noted the extensive work
that the Staff had put into the report on the pre-
zoning and he noted his concern for the ability of the
City to maintain the open space .
Chairman Berkey stated that he felt the case should be continued
for further review. Commissioner Kelly stated that more input is needed
on the utilities in the area and the maintenance of the sand dunes .
Commissioner Kryder indicated more information was needed on the traffic
situation. Commissioner Snyder asked that Staff be able to answer the
questions regarding maintenance of the open space and alternatives to
an open space zoning designation . /
On a motion by Commissioner Kryder, seconded by Commissioner
Kelly, the Commission continued Case C/Z 01-78 to June 14, 1978 for
further review and study; carried unanimously (4-0) .
B. Case Nos . DP 03-78 and 80C - MCBAIL COMPANY, Applicant
� Mr . Williams noted that these cases and Case No . TT 11791
should be continued to June 14, 1978 also due to the action of the
Commission on the pre-zoning.
MIKE GALLAGHER, representing the applicant, noted
his agreement with the continuance.
C. Case No. TT 11791 , continued as noted above .
D. Case No. CUP 07-76 - HENRY TAGLE , Applicant
Request for approval of an extension of time for an
approved Conditional Use Permit to allow the construc-
tion of a restaurant with Variances from parking re-
quirements and setback requirements on property located
at the northwest corner of Palm Desert Drive and San
Carlos Avenue.
Mr. Williams reviewed the case and noted that the Commission
had approved a previous extension of one year.
Chairman Berkey declared the Public Hearing open and asked the
applicant if he wished to speak at this time.
RICHARD HOLDEN, representing the applicant , stated
`�"" he was available to answer any questions . Commis-
sioner Snyder asked why the delay. Mr. Holden stated
that there was a problem with funding due to the size
of the interior of the restauant . Further, the only
problem that now exists is the line-of-site problem
but that should be resolved with the Redevelopment
plans for that area of the City.
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
May 17, 1978 Page Four
VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS (Cont . )
C. Case No. CUP 07-76 (Cont . )
Chairman Berkey asked if there was anyone wishing to speak
in FAVOR or in OPPOSITION to the case. Being none, he declared the
Public Hearing closed. �
Commissioner Kryder asked if Condition No. 11 regarding the
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existing billboard would be taken care of soon . Mr . Williams stated
that be�fore the applicant could start building it would have to be
taken down and also it was under the Sign Amortization ruling and
would have to be removed soon one way or another .
On a motion by Commissioner Snyder , seconded by Commissioner
Kryder, the Commission approved the extension of Case No . CUP 07-76
by Planning Commission Resolution No . 356 ; carried unanimously (4-0) .
VII . JOINT HEARING WITH PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
A. Case No . GPA 02-78, City of Palm Desert , Applicant
Consideration of a proposed General Plan Amendment
which would incorporate the proposed Parks and Re-
creation Element into the adopted Palm Desert
General Plan .
Mr. Williams reviewed the report and noted that the intent of
the report is to propose land for a land bank for future use as parks
or ope:n space. '
�; ` �'-�/��_,,,, Commissioner Kelly asked about land to be used for a motor-
�� ��s . Mr. Williams stated that the Park and Recreation Commission
, ,,�`" has asked that the City contact the County about land for this purpose .
Commissioner Snyder referred to the Sand Dune Preserve and
the opposition that was apparent during the previous public hearing.
He stated that the Commission needed to make a comment on this .
Commissioner Bjerke noted that at their next meeting the
Commission would have comments to be presented regarding this issue.
There was some discussion regarding public notice of the
next Planning Commission meeting and a series of press releases to
let the people know what the City is planning in the way of park and
recreation for the area. A map of the proposals being made by the
City would also be help�ul .
Commissioner Bjerke noted the Christina Sinatra information
that the Commissioners were in receipt of and he hoped that the Com-
mission would have some comment to make .
Commissioner Driskel stated that the Park and Recreation Com-
mission is appealing for something to be done now for these kids . �
She then introduced two middle-school students who wished to speak
in behalf of the youth of the City.
��, � �'::�AUL DOWD, 74777 Yucca Tree Dr . , addressed the
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r � Commission noting the need for something for
f �����;.�he youth today after school and weekends .
� A bowling alley or something to do to keep the
� the youth busy.
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
May 17, 1978 Page Five
VII . JOINT H��RING WITH PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION (Cont . )
A. Case No . GPA 02-78 (Cont . )
SIDNEY JOHNSON, 72-667 Yucca Tree Dr . , addressed
the Commission and stated that the Teen Center
needs to be enlarged as it only really serves the
youth that are in its immediate area. She also
stated that a small park for Frisbie throwing,
`�'"' an area for skateboarding or a motorcycle park.
and in general a place where the youth can get
together is what the youth want .
There was some discussion between the girls and the Commissioners
regarding the activities that are available to youth in the area and
what the girls feel is n�eded in the way of activities . It was concluded
that there is a need for numerous activities to keep the youth busy,
whether it is constructive or recreational .
Commissioner Kelly stated the the Commissioners should take
the document regarding the Christina Sinatra Youth Center home and
review it prior to the meeting of May 30, and that input be relayed
to the City Council .
Mr. Williams noted that Olsen park is being reworked and that
the Palm Desert Community Center is getting air conditioning and this
will allow the Center to have daytime activities during the summer .
It was agreed by both Commissions that the subject would be
discussed further at the next meeting which would be May 30, this would
allow both Commissions time to review and study the issue.
� On a motion by Commissioner Kelly, seconded by Commissioner
Snyder , the Commission continued the Public Hearing to the meeting of
May 30, 1978; carried unanimously (4-0) .
VIII . OLD BUSINESS - None
IX. NEW BUSINESS
A. 1 . Consideration of 197�-79 Capital Improvements
proposed by the City of Palm Desert . (Joint
session with Parks and Recreation Commission. )
Mr. Williams reviewed the first nine proposals and indicated
to the Commissioners that the City Council needs input on these items .
Mr. Beebe reviewed �tem 10 and noted the streets proposed for
resurfacing.
A. 2 . Review of proposed landscaping �or the Palm Desert
Community Park Extension .
Mr. Williams noted that the proposed expansion to the Community
,�„ Park may not be done in this fiscal year , but should occur by next fall ,
due to budgetary problems. :
Commissioner Driskel asked whose decision it was that the area
for the proposed expansion of the park was not a suitable site'`�'Q�.the ��p�"
Teen Center. Mr . Williams noted that it was a decision reached prior td /T�-
the creation of the Parks and Recreation Commission .
On a motion by Commissioner Kelly, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder the Commission approved the proposed projects finding that they
are in conformance with the adopted Palm Desert General Plan , by Planning
Commission Resolution No . 357; carried unanimously (4-0) .
Minutes
: Palm Desert Planning Commission
May 17, 1978 Page Six
IX. OLD BUSINESS (Cont . )
B. Consideratio� of several proposed projects to be
undertaken by C.V.C .W.D.
Mr. Williams reviewed the proposals by the Coachella Valley
County Water District and noted that Staff recommends approval as
they are in conformance with the adopted Palm Desert General Plan .
On a motion by Commissioner Snyder , seconded by Commissioner
Kelly, the Commission found that the proposed projects are in confor-
mance with the adopted Palm Desert General Plan by Planning Commission
Resolution No. 358; carried unanimously (4-0) .
X. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS
A. Review of Cases acted on by the Design Review Board
at their meeting of May 16, 1978.
Mr. Cipriani reviewed the cases noting that with re�ard to
Case No. 28C that the street will be realigned per the Redevelopment
Plan for the City which will change the line of site problemo The
Design Review Board was concerned the the landscaping; Case No .
127MF - Design Review Board concerns were with landscaping; Case No.
80C - the applicant was asked to rework the shop locations and traffic
pattern, also there is a need for more parking (�ir. Williams noted that
this case should be continued and deleted from the Resolution as the
related cases had been continued) ; and, Case No. 81C - the applicant
presented a model of the proposed structure and noted that it will
blend with the building that was previously approved. A discussion =�
followed regarding the exterior design , height and back wall effect
of the proposal . It was noted that the applicant will have to get
a Variance for the back area involving the 10 ft . of landscaping needed.
Case No. 71C - a new design concept was presented for the RB Furniture
Store proposed on Highway 111 , which is much more in line with the
concerns noted by the Design Review Board and the Planning Commission
than the previously presented concept .
On a motion by Commissioner Kelly, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder , the actions of the Design Review Board with the deletion of
Case No. 80C were approved by Planning Commission Resolution No. 359 ;
carried unanimously (4-0) .
XI . DISCUSSION ITEMS - None
XII . ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
XIII . COMMENTS
A. City Staff - Mr. Williams noted that the bus tour of
the City had been changed to June 16 , 1978. .�
B. City Attorney - Not present
C. Planning Commissioners - Commissioner Kelly asked if
the Commissions Study Session
meeting could be held at night .
It was decided that the Commission
would discuss this after a new
Commissioner was appointed.
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
May 17, 1978 Page Seven
XIX. ADJOURNMENT
On a motion by Commission Kryder , seconded by Commissioner
Kelly, the meeting was adjourned at 4 : 13 p .m. ; carried unanimously (4-0) .
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PAUL A. WILLIAMS , Secretary
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GEORGE BERKEY, Chairman
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