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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - DECEMBER 5, 1978
7 : 00 PM - CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
I . CALL TO ORDER
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Palm Desert Planning
Commission was called to order by Chairman Kelly at 7 : 00 p.m. in the
City Hall Council Chambers.
II . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Commissioner Kryder
III . ROLL CALL
Present : Commissioner Berkey
Commissioner Fleshman
Commissioner Kryder
Commissioner Snyder
Chairman Berkey
Others
Present : Paul Williams - Director of Envinmental Services
Murrel Crump - Principal Planner
Ralph Cipriani- Associate Planner
Kathy Shorey - Planning Secretary
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Minutes of regular meeting of October 31 , 1978 .
On a motion by Commissioner Fleshman, seconded by Commissioner
Berkey, the minutes of the October 31 , 1978 , meeting were approved as
written; carried unanimously (5-0) .
B. Minutes of regular meeting of November 15, 1978 .
Mr. Williams noted the following corrections to the minutes:
Page Five, 6th paragraph from the top, change the first
sentence to read : Commissioner Kelly asked a question
with regard to the timing of the implementation of this
proposal .
Page Five, 2nd paragraph from the bottom, change the
second sentence read : Chairman Kelly summarized the
Commissions concerns with the architectural design of
the project and said, etc .
On a motion by Commissioner Fleshman, seconded by Commissioner
Snyder , the minutes of the November 15, 1978, meeting were approved as
corrected; carried unanimously (5-0) .
V. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - None
VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairman Kelly announced that prior to this meeting, the Com-
mission had met in a Study Session for the prupose of clarifying the
staff recommendations. No decisions were reached. Chairman Kelly
then explained the Public Hearing procedures to those present .
Commissioner Berkey excused himself from the first case due to
a conflict of interest , and left the room.
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
December 5, 1978 Page Two
VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS (Cont . )
A. Continued Case No. PM 13653 - CHARLES GIBBS, Applicant
Mr . Williams noted a request from the applicant to continue
the case to December 20, 1978.
On a motion by Commissioner Fleshman, seconded by Commissioner
Snyder, the Commission continued the case to December 20, 1978 ;
carried (4-0-1) AYES : Fleshman, Kelly, Kryder , Snyder; ABSTAIN:
Berkey
B. Case No. CUP 14-78 - FRANK C. & H. FRANK OLIVER, Applicants
Request for approval of a Conditional Use Permit to allow
a Pre-School facility on approximately one-half acre within
the R-3(4) (Multi-family residential , minimum 4 , 000 sq.
ft . lot area/du) zone at the northwest corner of Ales-
sandro Drive and Cabrillo Avenue. N1JNUT AMFn;.; y
Mr. Crump reviewed the case and noted a problem with the
ing design. He referred to the Staff Recommendation to continue the
case until a final version of the building design is reviewed and
reported on by the Design Review Board.
Chairman Kelly noted that this is a much needed project in the
City. She also noted her concern with the two-story element .
Commissioner Fleshman noted that the zoning is okay for the
use and it is to be in a good location.
Commissioner Kryder asked if the area residents had been
notified of the Public Hearing. Mr . Williams confirmed that they
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MRS. GRETSCH, 44-881 Cabrillo Avenue, noted that her
property is adjacent to the proposed project and that
she has no objection to the project .
Mr . Williams stated that the two-story element is the problem.
It can not be used with subteen children.
Commissioner Fleshman asked that the staff check into the
traffic situation and give the Commission some idea as to whether
this proposal would create any problems.
On a motion by Commissioner Fleshman, seconded by Commissioner
Berkey, the case was continued to December 20, 1978 ; carried unanimously
(5-0) .
C. Case No. PM 13323 and VAR 06-78 - CHARLES D . & LORETTA
I . RILEY, Applicants
Request for approval of a Tentative Parcel Map to
create a 15, 170 sq. ft . parcel and a 12, 634 sq. ft .
parcel from an existing 27, 804 sq. ft . subdivided
lot ; and, a Variance from the minimum lot width
standards of the R-1 zone, for property generally
located at the northeast corner of El Cortez Way
and Santa Ynez Avenue.
Mr . Crump reviewed the staff report and noted the revisions,
as suggested by the staff , to the lot line. He then reviewed the
conditions for the Parcel Map.
Commissioner Fleshman asked about the positioning of buildings
on the two lots and why the need to move the lot line. Mr . Crump
stated that 2, 000 sq. ft. buildings would then be available. Commissioner
Fleshman asked how the front and side yards are figured with this
shape of parcel .
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
December 5, 1978 Page Three
VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS (Cont . )
C. Case No. PM 13323 and VAR 06-78 (Cont . )
Mr . Williams stated that a tangent of 10 feet denotes the start
of the front yard, side and rear .
Chairman Kelly declared the Public Hearing open and asked if the
applicant wished to speak at this time.
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CHARLES RILEY, applicant , noted that he believed
the reason for the large lots was originally to
have enough room to keep horses. He noted that
he had no objection to the Conditions of Approval
or to the lot line being moved, if the staff feels
this is better.
Chairman Kelly asked if there was anyone wishing to speak in
FAVOR or in OPPOSITION to the proposed project .
HENRY MCCANN, 44-558 Santa Ynez, noted his objection
to the proposed lot split as it is not consistent
with the lots in the area. They are all large and
he feels they should remain that way.
Chairman Kelly declared the Public Hearing closed and asked for
the pleasure of the Commission.
Mr . Williams referred to the Assessor ' s Parcel Map for this area
and noted the size of the lots. Commissioner Fleshman noted that the
lot split would still keep the lots within conformance to the other
lots in the area.
Chairman Kelly noted her agreement with Mr . McCann that the
large lots are an asset , but she did not feel that the split would
create a problem.
On a motion by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder , the Commission approved the cases by Planning Commission Resol-
ution No. 428 , subject to conditions; carried unanimously (5-0) .
D. Case No. CUP 13-78 - FLYING J OIL, Applicant
Request for approval of a Conditional Use Permit to
allow the sale of packaged beer in conjunction with
an existing automobile service station within the
PC(4) , S.P. (Planned Commercial-Resort Center , Scenic
Preservation Overlay) zone at the southeast corner of
Highway 111 and 44th Avenue.
Mr . Williams reviewed the staff report and noted the staffs recom-
mendation that the Commission determine if the requested use is appro-
priate in conjunction with an automobile service station or inappropriate,
or direct the applicant to prepare detailed plans and continue the matter
until January 2 , 1979, to allow plans to be submitted and reviewed by
Staff and the Design Review Board.
%NW Commissioner Berkey asked if there were any other service stations
in the area that sell beer. Mr . Williams stated that as far as he knew
the closest one was in Banning.
Chairman Kelly declared the Public Hearing open and asked if the
applicant wished to speak at this time.
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
December 5, 1978 Page Four
VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS (Cont . )
D. Case No. CUP 13-78 (Cont . )
TED BOCKNER, 73-170 Tumbleweed, applicant , stated
that the station was only a pumping station not
really a service station and that he is already
selling soft drinks and candy and there would not
be any additional traffic. He also stated that
he believes that selling beer is in conformance
with the zoning. He presented a list of rules the
station will follow (Exhibit A) . He also noted
that since he bought the service station a few
months ago he has gotten rid of the used car lot
connected with it ; put in a trash enclosure; put
the sign in compliance with City codes; and in
general cleaned the place up with landscaping.
Chairman Kelly asked if there was anyone wishing to speak in
FAVOR or in OPPOSITION to the proposed project . Being none, she
declared the Public Hearing closed and asked for the pleasure of the
Commission.
Commissioner Kryder noted his objection to selling beer in
conjunction with a service station. It is inappropriate for the
zoning in this area.
Commissioner Berkey noted his concern with setting a precedent ,
it might create a Circle K type atmosphere. The property should be
designed to handle this type of proposal and it is not .
Commissioner Fleshman noted his agreement with some of the
applicant ' s comments but also felt it might set a precedent .
Commissioner Snyder stated that a service station should not
be in the beer business and he also does not want to start a precedent .
Chairman Kelly agreed with the other Commissioners and noted
that the City has worked hard to set high standards and this would
not meet those standards.
Mr . Bockner stated that he knew the legal aspects
of drinking and driving and noted that most people
drive to get beer and if they are going to drink
it , it won' t matter where they bought it from. He
also stated that he felt this proposal would not
be damaging to the City.
Commissioner Snyder noted that this would give him an unfair
advantage over the grocery stores that have to comply with parking
requirements, building size, etc .
Commissioner Kryder stated that people will gather and this
would lead to the temptation to drink at the station as well as
drive and drink.
Mr. Bockner again stated that he felt there would
be no problem.
Chairman Kelly noted that it is not compatible with the area
or the zoning in the area.
On a motion by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner
Fleshman, the Commission found the requested use inappropriate by
Planning Commission Resolution No. 429; carried unanimously (5-0) .
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
December 5, 1978 Page Five
VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS (Cont . )
E. Case No. TT 13586 - PALM DESERT 210 LTD. , Applicant
Request for approval of a Tentative Tract Map to
create eleven (11) mobile home lots from approxi-
mately 1 . 49 acres within the R-M (Mobile Home Sub-
division Residential ) zone contained within the
Portola Country Club development , located on the
east side of Portola Avenue, north of the storm
channel .
Mr . Williams reviewed the staff report and the conditions of
approval .
Chairman Kelly asked if the applicant wished to speak. The ap-
plicant noted his agreement with the Conditions of Approval but had
no comment at this time. Chairman Kelly declared the Public Hearing
open and asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or in OPPOSITION
to the case. Being none, she declared the Public Hearing closed and
asked for the pleasure of the Commission .
On a motion by Commissioner Snyder , seconded by Commissioner
Berkey, the Commission, by Planning Commission Resolution No . 430,
recommended approval of the Tentative Tract to the City Council ;
carried (4-1) AYES: Berkey, Kelly, Kryder, Snyder ; NOES : Fleshman
(Reason being, he voted no on the CUP) .
Chairman Kelly excused herself from the next two cases due to
a conflict of interest .
F. Case No. TT 13407 D. K. KAVANAUGH ENTERPRISES/COVINGTON
BROS. , INC. , Applicant
Request for approval of a Tentative Tract Map to create
a 384 lot condominium subdivision to allow 380 residential
units and common open space on approximately 80 gross
acres within the PR-5(U.A. ) zone east of Cook Street and
north of Hovely Lane (extended) .
Mr. Crump reviewed the staff report and noted that the applicant
would be required to improve the streets involved in each phase as each
phase is done. He then reviewed the remaining Conditions of Approval .
Commissioner Berkey asked if Street A. should be a 4 lane street
as it is the main entrance. Mr . Williams noted that this had been ap-
proved already as is.
Vice-Chairman Snyder declared the Public Hearing open and asekd
if the applicant wished to speak at this time.
D. K. KAVANAUGH, applicant , noted his agreement with
the Conditions of Approval.
Vice-Chairman Snyder asked if there was anyone wishing to speak
in FAVOR or in OPPOSITION to the case. Being none, he declared the
Public Hearing closed and asked for the pleasure of the Commission .
On a motion by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder, the Commission, by Planning Commission Resolution No . 431 ,
recommended approval of the Tentative Tract to the City Council ;
carried (4-0-1 ) AYES: Berkey, Fleshman, Kryder , Snyder; ABSTAIN:
Kelly.
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
December 5, 1978 Page Six
VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS (Cont . )
G. Case Nos. TT 13915 and CUP 15-78 - GEORGETOWN PARK, LTD. /
E. GEORGE MARZICOLA, Applicant
Request for approval of a Tentative Tract Map and
Conditional Use Permit to create a 40 lot Industrial
Planned Unit Development on approximately 34 . 7 gross
acres within the S. I . , S.P. (U .A. ) zone at the south-
east corner of Cook Street and Hovely Lane extended.
Mr. Crump reviewed the staff report and the conditions of
approval .
Vice-Chairman Snyder declared the Public Hearing open and
asked if the applicant wished to speak at this time.
KEN KING, Civil Engineer, representing the applicant ,
noted his agreement with the conditions of approval .
Vice-Chairman Snyder asked if there was anyone wishing to
speak in FAVOR or in OPPOSITION to the cases. Being none, he de-
clared the Public Hearing closed and asked for the pleasure of the
Commission.
On a motion by Commissioner Kryder , seconded by Commissioner
Berkey, the Commission approve the Conditional Use Permit by Plan-
ning Commission Resolution No. 432 and by Planning Commission Re-
solution No. 433 , recommended approval of the Tentative Tract to the
City Council ; carried (4-0-1) AYES : Berkey, Fleshman, Kryder ,
Snyder ; ABSTAIN: Kelly.
Commissioner Fleshman excused himself from the following
three cases, due to a conflict of interest .
H. Case No. DP 17-78 - T&D INVESTMENTS/PRO-CON DEVELOPMENT,
Applicant
Request for approval of a Development Plan to allow
50 residential condominium units on approximately
10 gross acres within the PR-5 (U.A. ) zone on the north
side of Hovely Lane, east of Monterey Avenue.
Mr . Williams reviewed the staff report and noted the concerns
of the Design Review Board. He noted that the DRB wants the shaded
parking as proposed as well as apron parking. Mr. Williams noted
that both the DRB and the Planning Commission will be reviewing the
case again.
Commissioner Berkey suggested that in Special Condition No.
2, the word "achieve" be changed to "consider" .
Chairman Kelly declared the Public Hearing open and asked if
the applicant wished to speak at this time.
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DAVID MOSS, representative of T&D Investments,
addressed the Commission and asked that they
consider the parking as proposed and not require
the additional apron parking on the project .
Chairman Kelly asked if there was anyone wishing to speak in
FAVOR or in OPPOSITION to the proposed project . Being none, she de-
clared the Public Hearing closed and asked for the pleasure of the
Commission.
On a motion by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder, the Commission approved the Development Plan with the noted
change to Special Condition No. 2 by Planning Commission Resolution
No. 434 ; carried (4-0-1) AYES: Berkey, Kelly, Kryder, Snyder;
ABSTAIN: Fleshman
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
December 5, 1978 Page Seven
VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS (Cont . )
I . Case No. DP 18-78 - T&D INVESTMENTS/PRO-CON DEVELOPMENT,
Applicant
Request for approval of a Development Plan to allow
24 residential condominium units on approximately
5 gross acres within the PR-5 zone on the south side
of Hovely Lane, west of Portola Avenue.
.. Mr . Crump reviewed the staff report and in response to a question
by Commissioner Berkey about sidewalks noted that the City will create
a street scene criteria for the area.
Chairman Kelly declared the Public Hearing open and asked if the
applicant wished to speak at this time.
Mr . Moss noted his agreement with the staff report
and the Conditions of Approval .
Chairman Kelly asked if there was anyone wishing to speak in
FAVOR or in OPPOSITION to the proposal . Being none, she declared the
Public Hearing closed and asked for the pleasure of the Commission.
Commissioner Kryder asked what the width of the entry between
the quest parking area would be. Mr . Crump stated 30 ft . which is
sufficient .
On a motion by Commissioner Snyder , seconded by Commissioner
Berkey, the Commission approved the Development Plan by Planning Commis-
sion Resolution No. 435; carried (4-0-1 ) AYES : Berkey, Kelly, Kryder,
Snyder; ABSTAIN: Fleshman
r J. Case No. DP 19-78 LOS COCINEROS, LTD. /E. GEORGE MA,RZICOLA,
Applicant
Request for approval of a Residential Development Plan
to allow 160 condominium units, recreational amenities
and open space on approximately 35. 2 gross acres within
the PR-5, S.P. (U.A. ) zone at the northeast corner of
Hovely Lane (extended) and Cook Street .
Chairman Kelly and Commissioner Fleshman both excused themselves
from this case due to a conflict of interest .
Mr. Williams reviewed the staff report and the conditions of
approval and noted that the project was oriented away from Cook Street .
He then noted the concerns of the Design Review Board.
Commissioner Kryder noted that more trees were needed in the
parking area for a better sight .
Mr . Williams noted that the planters would be 9 'x20 ` in the parking
area.
Vice-Chairman Snyder declared the Public Hearing open and asked
if the applicant wished to speak at this time.
%Ww BRONSON HOWELL, representative of Los Cocineros &
E. George Marzicola, noted his agreement with the
staff ' s recommendation and the Conditions of Approval .
Vice--Chairman Snyder asked if there was anyone wishing to speak
in FAVOR or in OPPOSITION to the proposed project . Being none, he
declared the Public Hearing closed and asked for the pleasure of the
Commission.
On a motion by Commissioner Kryder , seconded by Commissioner Berkey,
the Commission approved the Development Plan by Planning Commission Re-
solution No. 436; carried (3-0-2) AYES : Berkey, Kryder, Snyder ;
ABSTAIN: Fleshman, Kelly.
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
December 5, 1978 Page Eight
VII . OLD BUSINESS
Mr . Williams noted that there will be a joint meeting with the
Planning Commissions from Indian Wells and Rancho Mirage on December
12 , 1978 .
VIII . NEW BUSINESS - None
IX. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS - None
X. DISCUSSION ITEMS - None
XI . ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
XII . COMMENTS
A. City Staff - Mr . Williams reviewed the Resolution that
the Commission had requested regarding
their concerns with growth north of the
Whitewater Channel and the need for a
fire station in that area at the proposed
are of Country Club and Cook street .
Commissioner Berkey asked about the status
of the proposed station on the south side.
Mr. Williams stated that the Planning Com-
mission will review the plans at their
meeting of January 2 , 1979.
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Commissioner Berkey asked if there would
be a need for another station on the south
side. Mr. Williams stated that the fire
people had stated there is not need for
another station on the south side.
Commissioner Fleshman noted that funds
generated on the north side through the
Excise Tax should be used on that side.
The Planning Commission noted there agreement with the
suggested Resolution and on a motion by Commissioner Snyder
seconded by Commissioner Kryder , they approved Planning Com-
mission Resolution No. 437; carried unanimously (5-0) .
B. City Attorney - None
C. Planning Commissioners
Chairman Kelly asked that one site plan for the area on
the north side showing proposed projects and the growth of
that area be available to the Commission.
Commissioner Snyder asked when the study of the north
sphere area would be prepared . Mr. Williams noted it would
be started after the Palm Valley Stormwater Channel Area Specific
Plan is completed.
There was some discussion about the role the County will
play in this area.
XIII . ADJOURNMENT
On a motion by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner
Snyder, the meeting was adjourned at 9: 07 p.m. ; carried unanimously
(5-0) .
ATTEST.': ' PAUL
Secretary
Minutes
Palm Desert Planning Commission
December 5, 1978 Exhibit A
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1. No signs or placards advertising the sale of beer will be posted
in the windows or about the property.
2. The beer will not be "put on sale" or "discounted" to attract
customers.
3. Locked storage is already provided.
4. Customer parking is already prohibited.
5. There will be no alterations or modifications to the store or
property in establishing the sale of beer.
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