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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
WEDNESDAY - FEBRUARY 14, 1979
1 : 00 P.M. - CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
I . CALL TO ORDER
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Palm Desert Planning
Commission was called to order by Chairman Kelly at 1 : 00 p.m. in the
City Hall Council Chambers.
�rr II . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIENCE - Commissioner Fleshman
III . ROLL CALL
Present : Commissioner Berkey
Commissioner Fleshman
Commissioner Kryder
Commissioner Snyder
Chairman Kelly
Others Paul A. Williams - Director of Environmental Services
Present : Murrel Crump - Principal Planner
Ron Knippel - Assistant Planner
Clyde Beebe - Director of Public Works
Susan Schramke - Planning Secretary
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Minutes of regular meeting of January 17, 1979
Mr. Williams noted the following correction :
� Page 2 , last sentence, add the word "recreational"
between the words "water" and "element" .
On a motion by Commissioner Snyder , seconded by Commissioner
Berkey, the minutes of January 17 , 1979, were approved as amended.
B. P�4inutes of regular meeting of January 30, 1979
lt4r . Williams noted the following corrections :
Page 2 , 4th paragraph, and where applicable, change
spelling of "Engle" to "Angle" .
Page 5, statement that "Commissioner Fleshman was excused
from the meeting at this time" should be moved to after
the last paragraph on Page 6.
Page 7 , 2nd paragraph, the word "off" should be changed
to "adjoining" .
Page 7, 6th paragraph, and where applicable, change
spelling of "Radimaker" to "Radmaker" .
Page 8 , lst paragraph, change the first sentence to read:
"Commissioner Berkey felt that the Tamaxisk trees should
� not be preserved; and that the units should be removed
along the entry road. "
On a motion by Commission Snyder , seconded by Commissioner
Berkey, the minutes of January 30, 1979, were approved as amended .
V. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
A. Written response to local resident .
No action was taken by the Commission; this was simply
an informational item.
Minutes Page Two
Palm Desert Planning Commission
February 14 , 1979
VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairman Kelly announced that the Planning Commission did
meet in a Study Session prior to this meeting for the purpose of
information only.
A. Continued Case No. PM 14163 - HAROLD HOUSLEY, Applicant
Request for approval of a Tentative Parcel Map to divide
� one parcel into three parcels, located at the southwest
corner of San Jose and Catalina Way.
Mr. Williams indicated that this case was continued from the
last Planning Commission meeting in order to allow an analysis to be
done in regards to existing lots in the area, and also to allow for
the appearance of the applicant .
Mr. Williams then reviewed the proposal , using illustrations
of lot sizes in the area, noting that the majority are in the range
or less than what is being proposed by the applicant . The applicant
submittal does conform to Ordinance.
There were no questions or comments from the Commissioners at
this time; Chairman Kelly then asked the applicant to make a presentation.
HAROLD HOUSLEY, 73893 Highway 111 . Mr. Housley feels the
proposal is consistent with what is occurring in the
neighborhood. He stated that a house could be built on the
lot by removing only two trees; and feels the tenure of
the neighborhood will be basically the same. He also mentioned
that it has been expensive to maintain the open space. It has
been worthwhile; however, the new irrigation system he will be
required to install would be too costly. He then stated that
�.r► he woul� like to see the parcel map approved; feels it is a
reasonable request.
Chairman Kelly opened the Public Hearing, asking if anyone
present Wished to speak in rAVO� or OPPOSITION of this proposal .
TOM ANGLE, 44454 San Jose. Pdr . Angle is in opposition to
the proposed lot split , for various reasons. He stated that
the trees that would be removed are over 50 years old; that
the irrigation system Mr. Housley has to put in is not that
costly; that any house built on the lot would affect his
privacy. He then suggested Mr. Housley cut parcel split into
two lots instead of three, to be consistent with the neighborhood.
Pd�S. CLAYBORN, 44491 San Jose. Mrs. Clayborn is also in
opposition; she would like to see the proposal changed to two
lots instead of three. She stated that she felt the area
would be too congested.
The following persons spoke in FAVOR of the proposal as presented:
JOSEPHINE VICARI , 44384 Lingo Lane.
THERESA BOSLEY, 44595 San Jose.
YVONNE SWEDINA, 73915 Catalina.
�' Mr . Housley reiterated Mrs. Vicari' s statement about diseased
trees. He also noted that all the houses in the area are
almost totally enclosed by trees, and does not see the view
or possible lack of privacy as a p�oblem.
Chairman Kelly declared the Public Hearing closed.
Mr. Williams mentioned at this time that all property owners
within 300' of the property in question were notified of the Public
Hearing.
Minutes Page Three
Palm Desert Planning Commission
February 14 , 1979
VI . A. (cont . )
Commissioner Berkey commented that Mr . Housley is within his
rights to split his property into three parcels, as it is within the
present zoning law. In fact , this split is less than what is required.
He also stated that he was not convinced by arguments against the
proposal that it would be detrimental to nearby property owners.
On a motion by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner
� Kryder, the Tentative Parcel Map No. 14163 was approved by Planning
Commission Resolution No. 457 ; carried unanimously (5-0) .
B. Continued Case No. DP O1-79 - DAME' -DOTY DEVELOPMENT CO. ,
Applicant
Request for approval of a Residential Development Plan
to allow 683 attached single-family multi-family units
and golf course on approximately 210 acres located west
of Portola, northerly of the Whitewater Storm Channel .
Chairman Kelly indicated that she did go out to the project
site to review the area in question, at the reques� of the applicant .
She also noted that although Commissioner Fleshman did have
to leave after most of the presentation had been made at the last
meeting, he did listen to the tapes prior �o this meeting. .
Mr. Williams stated that this case was continued to allow the
applicant to prepare revised plans, addressing those concerns expressed
by the Commission at the last meeting. He noted that the revised site
plan was received from the applicant after the Staff Report had been
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�„r Mr. Williams then reviewed the Staff Report , enumerating the
concerns of the Commission and the manner in which they were addressed
by the applicant . Those concerns included: number of units per
building; relocation of swimming pools; attempt to jog streets to
eliminate row effect ; and relocation of maintenance facility and recrea-
tional vehicle storage area.
He then stated that , although the revised site plan does meet
all requirements, the applicant has not addressed the overall design
concern as to being innovative and compatible to the PR zone as it
was intended. Therefore, Staff recommends denial of this development
plan.
There were no questions or comments from the Commissioners at
this point ; Chairman Kelly asked for the applicant ' s presentation.
RICHARD DOTY, 43 Barcelona, Rancho Mirage. Mr . Doty reiterated
the concerns of the Commission and how they had been addressed
in the revised- site plan.
He noted that the revised plan has reduced the number of units
by 16; they have attempted to bring the pools into the clusters
of units for more convenience; have shifted street to eliminate
row effect ; maintenance facility and recreational vehicle storage
area have been relocated to increase shielding.
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He also pointed out that , contrary to Staff Report , the proposed
golf course design was not arbitrary at all . They have
purposely created this; it was one of their original design
constraints. He also mentioned that the golf course has
been widened.
Mr. Doty then asked Mr. Ted Robinson to testify as to the
technical capability of revised plan. Mr. Robinson simply
reiterated Mr. Doty' s previous statements.
Commissioner Berkey posed the question of guest parking.
Minutes Page Four
Palm Desert Planning Commission
February 14 , 1979
VI . B. (cont . )
Mr. Robinson answered that he felt that could be easily solved;
if there is a concern for additional bay parking, it can be
provided without any difficulty.
Mr . Doty mentioned that the clubhouse parking is up to 102
spaces; they have also provided parking for the driving range.
�, Chairman Kelly asked if there were any questions. There being
none, she declared the Public Hearing open, asking if anyone present
wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION af this proposal .
The following persons spoke in FAVOR of proposal :
HARVEY DOYTCH, 73141 44th Avenue.
CHARLES E. HOLEMAN, 73500 Encelia
JIM SHARPE, 74725 Joanie Drive.
MARGE NIESTRUM, 46265 Burroweed Lane.
JACK DULSTRUM, Sunrise Company. Voiced his concern over raising
of houses 4 ' , stating he felt there would be some very serious
concerns about other units being built at a different level .
Mr . Robinson assured him that pads adjacent to Monterey Country
Club will not be raised 4 ' . Raised elevation will only occur
in the center of the project , not the perimeter . This gives
much more protection when units are looking down on golf
course. It will be done in a compatible way with the
other units.
Chairman Kelly declared the Public Hearing closed.
�„ MR. DAME' , �ith regard to the concern over raising of
houses, stated that they do not necessarily have to do
this, but would prefer to.
Chairman Kelly then asked if the Commission had any questions
or comments.
Commissioner Fleshman expressed his concern over the adaptation
of the prcject with the in�e�t and purpose of the PR zone, and stated he
would feel more comfortable supporting the project if Staff felt that
the developer was in conformance with zone as intended.
Commissioner Snyder noted that it is apparent there is a
difference of opinion between Staff and developer ; but it would seem
there is still room for them to achieve agreement .
Commissioner Berkey indicated that he was satisfied with the
plan, accepting it as strictly schematic, but that it also needs to
have a great deal of attention at the Design Review process. He
would expect the developer to work closely with Staff and the Design
Review Board. Objectionable features of the plan can be mitigated at
that point , including guest parking, landscaping plan, elimination of
row effect , and pad elevation.
Commissioner Kryder agreed with Commissioner Berkey' s state-
� ments, stating that while there are still certain objectionable issues
of the plan, they are not sufficiently damaging to require the denial
of the project at this time. Design Review Board activity can handle
it , with Staff and developer working together.
Chairman Kelly commended applicant for changes made to this
point , and feels the problems can be worked out at the Design Review
Board level .
Mr . Williams suggested that , if the development plan is approved,
a 10-minute recess should be called to allow the developer to review
the conditions of approval . He stated tYiat they do embody a procedure
that would allow the Planning Commission to have answers to concerns
such as setbacks, etc .
Minutes Page Five
Palm Desert Planning Commission
February 14, 1979
VI . B. (cont . )
Recess was called at 2 : 05 p.m. for 10 minutes to allow appli-
cant to review conditions.
Meeting was reconvened at 2 : 15, at which time Mr . Williams
stated that the applicant has seen the draft of conditions of approval .
Mr . Doty then reviewed each condition with the Commission and
Staff , enumerating those he felt needed clarification or deletion.
'�■' The conditions were amended, with all in agreement .
There was then some discussion as to whether to continue this
case or to approve the development plan at this time, with amended
conditions.
Commissioner Snyder suggested approval of this case to the
Tentative Tract stage, ��herein any further problems could be addressed.
On a motion by Commissioner Kryder, seconded by Commissioner
Berkey, Development Plan O1-79 was approved by Planning Commission
Resolution No. 458 , subject to conditions; carried 4-1 (AYES : Berkey,
Kryder, Snyder , Kelly; NOES : Fleshman) .
C. Continued Public Hearing -- Palm Valley Stormwater Channel
Area Specific Plan
Mr . Williams presented for discussion and review 12 issues
which summarize the comments from property owners, interested citizens
and other agencies received through conferences, correspondence or the
January 17 , 1979 Public Hearing on the subject . He also presented the
recommended action to resolve each issue.
Following the presentation of the 12 issues, Mr . Williams
�' commented on additional correspondence received. He indicated that
copies of this correspondence, as well as all correspondence received,
would appear in the Appendix of the subject study.
He then stated that Staff hoped to obtain sufficient direction
at this meeting to provide a recommendation to the City Council for
adoption of the plan.
Chairman Kelly then opened the Public Hearing to take testimony
in FAVOR or OPPOSITION of the plan.
G. GEORGE FOX, Fox Farms, 1512 Jarvis, Chicago Illinois.
Mr. Fox ' s comments were related primarily to the development
of the property he owns in the study area. He indicated that
the physical development of the land is as important as the
structure. He indicated further that improvements such as
roads are the responsibility of the individual landowner .
Fox said he was interested in quality development , and has
hired the firm of Perkins and Will to do a financial feasi-
bility study for development of his property. To clarify
his position and intent in this matter, he prepared for
presentation to the Planning Commission a letter , which he
read for the record. A copy of the letter appears in the
Appendix of the subject study.
� O. R. HOMME, 261 Cordoba Way. Mr . Homme wished to reiterate
his concerns for the subject study and his property. He
indicated that he was in no hurry to develop his property,
and there were certain physical barriers which would preclude
such development .
He recommended that a crossing be provided to the study area
via Thrush Road. He also suggested that the Planning Commission
consider increasing the density on the flatter portions of the
project area from 2 to 3 to 5 dwelling units per acre. This
recommendation was based on the McKueon project on the east
side of the Palm Valley Stormwater Channel and the cost in-
volved with providing the bridg�, �fx��;s����:�f the Channel .
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Minutes Page Six
Palm Desert Planning Commission
February 14 , 1979
VI . C. (cont . )
CHARLES MARTIN, 73744 Highway 111 . Mr . Martin suggested
that up to 3 dwelling units per acre in the 5-acre parcel
portion of the study area be considered. He also re-
commended that the matter of sewage disposal be left to
the Riverside County Department of Health.
He suggested the continued use of at grade crossings rather
� than bridge crossings; he does not want to see the small
landowner financially tied by the improvements proposed.
Mr. Martin also stated his position on structure design and
the need for structures to be compatible with land forms,
particularly in this unique area.
DICK WILLBERG, Perkins and Will , Chicago, Illinois.
Mr. Willbert indicated that he had been employed by G. George
Fox to prepare a financial feasibility analysis for the Fox
property and to prepare alternative conceptual development
plans. He reiterated the concerns of his client and his
firm` s in the preparation of the conceptual plans.
The Public Hearing was then closed. The Commissioners
recapitulated the concerns raised and made the following recommendations:
l . Use a less definitive delineation of zoning lines on the
proposed zoning map and pay closer attention to the
existing property lines.
2 . Increase the density in the flatter portions of the study
area to PR-3 .
�, 3 . Eliminate all but one bridge crossing and continue
maintenance of at grade crossings and other access points.
The Commission then suggested, and the Staff concurred, that
a draft resolution addressing possible changes to the Palm Valley
Stormwater Channel Area Specific Plan be prepared for consideration
on February 27 , 1979.
On a motion by Commissioner Snyder, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder , the matter was continued to February 27 , 1979; carried
unanimously (5-0) .
VII . OLD BUSINESS - None
VIII . NEW BUSINESS
A. On a motion by Commissioner Snyder, seconded by Commissioner
Fleshman, Planning Commission Resolution No. 459 was adopted as
presented, announcing its appreciation to Ralph J. Cipriani.
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IX. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS
A. Consideration of cases acted on by the Design Review Board
at their meeting of February 6, 1979.
Commissioner Fleshman had a conflict of interest with regard
to Case No. 164 MF, and left the room while it was being discussed.
Mr . Crump presented the cases (164 MF; 107 C; and 42 C) to the
Commission.
Minutes Page Seven
Palm Desert Planning Commission
February 14, 1979
IX. (cont . )
On a motion by Commissioner Kryder , seconded by Commissioner
Berkey, Planning Commission Resolution No. 460 was adopted, approving
the Design Review Board actions of February 6, 1979, with the
following modifications:
f: Case 107 C - Add additional requirements as follows:
�+ 4. Opening be provided in the landscape planter
along west property line to permit connection
to existing driveway.
5. Access easement be granted to the City over
the parking areas.
carried 4-0-1 (AYES : Berkey, Kelly, Kryder, Snyder; ABSTAIN: Fleshman) .
X. DISCUSSION ITEMS - None
XI . ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
XII . COMMENTS
A. City Staff - None
B. City Attorney - Not present
C. Planning Commissioners - None
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XIII . ADJOURNMENT
On a motion by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder , the meeting was adjourned at 3 :45 p.m.
PAUL A. WILLIAMS, Secretary
ATTEST :
GLORIA KELLY, Chairman
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