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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - JULY 3, 1979
7 : 00 P.M. - CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
I. , CALL TO ORDER
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Palm Desert Planning
Commission was called to order at 7 : 00 P.M. by Chairman Snyder,
in the City Hall Council Chambers.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Commissioner Berkey
III. ROLL CALL
Members Commissioner Berkey
Present: Commissioner Fleshman
Commissioner Kryder
Commissioner Miller
Chairman Snyder
Others Paul A. Williams - Director of Environmental Services
Present: Murrel Crump - Principal Planner
Stan Sawa - Associate Planner
Patricia Smaldino - Planning Secretary
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Minutes of regular meeting of June 20 , 1979 .
taw Mr. Williams noted the following correction:
Page 2 , change the position of the words compatible and
consistent.
On a motion by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner Kryder,
the minutes of June 20 , 1979 were approved as amended.
V. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - None
VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Case No. PM 14768 - LEWIS HOMES OF CALIFORNIA, Applicant
Request for approval of a Tentative Parcel Map to divide
78 . 975 acres into four parcels, located on the east side
of San Pablo Ave. , north of 44th Ave.
Mr. Williams presented the staff report and indicated
that this parcel map was being requested to allow for
the creation of two of the four lots which would be
transferred to the City, one as a park dedication and
the other to be acquired by the City for Civic Center
purposes. He completed the staff presentation by re-
commending approval of the parcel map by Resolution,
subject to conditions.
In response to questions from the Commission regarding
previous actions by the Commission on said property,
Mr. Williams pointed out that all previous requirements
by the Commission would be complied with by the appli-
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July 3 , 1979 Page Two
A. (cont. )
cant. Chairman Snyder stated that he simply wanted to
point out that all previous conditions should be met by
the applicant.
There being no further questions, Chairman Snyder declared
the Public Hearing open and asked if the Applicant wished
*WV to make a presentation.
STAN MORRIS - LEWIS HOMES OF CALIFORNIA, 45-445 Portola,
Suite 1A, Palm Desert, Ca.
Mr. Morris appeared representing the Applicant and indi-
cated complete acceptance of the recommended conditions.
There being no other questions from the Commission,
Chairman Snyder asked if there was anyone who wished to
speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION of the request. There being
none, Chairman Snyder closed the Public Hearing.
On a motion by Commissioner Fleshman, seconded by Commissioner Miller,
Case No. PM 14768 was approved by Planning Commission Resolution
No. 501, carried unanimously (5-0) .
B. Case No. TT 14032 - MC LAIN DEVELOPMENT CO. , Applicant
Request for approval of a Tentative Tract Map to allow
256 dwelling units and park site; and, Amendment of an
approved Development Plan relative to common open space
to be provided on approximately 80 acres within the PR-4
low (Planned Residential , max. 4 du/ac) and O.S. (Open Space)
zones located at the southeast corner of Portola Ave.
extended, and Country Club Drive.
Mr. Williams presented the Staff Report. He first dis-
cussed the matter of the amendment which was to reduce
the amount of required open space. He noted that it was
found that as a result of plotting the lots around the
proposed units that the amount of open space was not in
compliance with the common space requirement of 50% .
Mr. Williams stated that there are two relevant issues
here; one is the development plan amendment. There is
not 50% of open space in the common area. The applicant
has noted in writing that the property includes a dedi-
cation of a park of 7 . 9 acres which could be used by the
property owners which would make this projects common
space 47 . 6% .
The second matter presented by Mr. Williams was the
Tentative Tract. He discussed phasing of the street
improvements and pointed out that suggested Special Con-
ditions #4C and D deal with Hovely Lane as to when and
at what level should the improvements be made. He pointed
tow out Special Condition #6 which talks about improvements
being completed as a part of the phasing except giving
the City the right to consider some revision of timing
as to when Hovely Lane would be built. He indicated
this recommendation was made on the basis that Hovely
should not be built until a connection existed to the
east.
Commissioner Berkey inquired as to the merits of extending
Portola from Country Club south until a connection existed
to the south and/or development existed on the west to
reduce the maintenance. Mr. Williams agreed that Portola
should not be built until there was a connection to the
south.
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Palm Desert Planning Commission
July 3 , 1979 Page Three
Chairman Snyder declared the Public Hearing open and asked if
the applicant were present.
BOB MC LAIN, MC LAIN DEVELOPMENT, 1470 Jamboree, Newport
Beach, Ca. 92660 , stated that he agreed with the staff
recommendations as presented by Mr. Williams. He also
stated that he would be willing to provide a bond
guaranteeing the full installation of Portola Ave. at
the appropriate time. Also the full frontage of Country
Club Drive shall be improved as a part of the first phase
of the development.
Chairman Snyder asked if there was anyone present who wished
to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to this proposal. There being
none, he closed the Public Hearing and asked for the pleasure
of the Commission.
Commissioner Fleshman questioned the open space conflict
and asked if we could change the Ordinance words, "owned
in common" , to "maintain in common" .
Chairman Snyder suggested that we approve this with a
written agreement or bonding criteria to cover the com-
pletion of Portola and Country Club agreeable to City
Attorney. When it is improved to Hovely Lane, Mr. Mc Lain
would then go the rest of the way.
On a motion by Commissioner Fleshman, seconded by Commissioner Kryder,
Case No.DP06-79 (Amended) , was approved by Planning Commission Res-
olution No. 502 as presented; carried unanimously (5-0) .
After lengthy discussion on the matter of the Tentative
Tract, at the request of the Commission, Mr. Williams
stated that Condition #6 needed additional comment
starting with the word "City" . "However, Portola Ave. ,
shall be built at the time that a link exists between
Hovely Lane and the Whitewater. As a part of the first
phase, the applicant shall provide a bond guaranteeing
the full installation of Portola Ave. at the appropriate
time. Further, the full frontage of Country Club Drive
shall be improved as a part of the first phase of deve-
lopment" . The Commission agreed with this addition.
On a motion by Commissioner Fleshman, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder, Case No. 14032 (Amended) , was approved by Planning Com-
mission Resolution No. 503 with an amended Special Condition #6;
carried unanimously (5-0) .
C. Case No. VAR 04-79 - HEATH AND CO. , and R.B. FURNITURE,
Applicant.
Request for approval of an exception to the Sign Ordin-
ance to allow two wall mounted signs oriented to the
street frontage and rear parking area for a building
generally located on the west side of Hwy. 111, at the
tow common City Limit boundary between Palm Desert and
Rancho Mirage.
Mr. Crump presented the Staff Report which included a
recommendation for denial of VAR 04-79 . The request
by the applicant was to have more than one sign on the
front of the building and a larger sign on the back of
the building.
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City of Palm Desert
July 3 , 1979 Page Four
C. (cont. )
As a part of a lenghty discussion among the Commissioners ,
Commissioner Kryder stated that he was in favor of ap-
proving the Variance due to the size of the building
and the architectural compatibility of the new signs to
the buildings present design.
Chairman Snyder stated his disapproval of granting the
Variance because it would set a precidence that all large
buildings should be allowed additional signs.
Chairman Snyder declared the Public Hearing open and asked if
the applicant wished to make a presentation.
RON MC KENZIE, HEATH & CO. , Sign Contractor, 3225 Lacy St. ,
Los Angeles, Ca. 90031, felt that the signs confirmed
to the architectural design of the building. He showed
drawings which emphasized the improvement of the exter-
ior of the building with the signs added.
Mr. Mc Kenzie also read two sections of the Sign Ordinance,
Sec.25.68.720 and Sec. 25. 68 . 730 which he believed to
be in favor of his request. He also felt that the signs
would not be detrimental to the neighboring buildings.
He also pointed out that the signs now being requested
are well under the possible allowed signs should the
parking lot become a commercial lot for a future shopping
center development.
Mr. Mc Kenzie then asked if the Commissioners had any
questions.
Chairman Snyder asked if the sign was already made.
Mr. Mc Kenzie said no, signs were not made until the
Permit was issued.
Being no further discussion, Chairman Snyder asked if anyone
present wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to this pro-
posal. Being none, he declared the Public Hearing closed and
asked for the pleasure of the Commission.
The Commission discussed the two signs being requested. Mr.
Williams pointed out the Section of the Sign Ordinance which
specifically prohibits a wall sign when a ground sign was
proposed.
On a motion by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner Fleshman,
Resolution No. 504 was approved denying VAR 04-79; carried 3-2
(AYES : Berkey, Snyder, Fleshman; NOES : Miller and Kryder) .
At this point Mr. Mc Kenzie inquired about the appeal
procedures and they were explained to him by Mr. Williams .
COMMISSIONER FLESHMAN EXCUSED HIMSELF FROM THE MEETING AT 8 : 15 P.M.
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D. Case No. CUP 04-79 - ELYNOR FALK, C/O BALLEW/MC FARLAND,
Applicants.
Request for approval of a Conditional Use Permit (upon
annexation) to allow for development of a 176 space
Mobile Home Park and Mobile Home Subdivision Residential
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City of Palm Desert
July 3, 1979 Page Five
D. (cont. )
Dist. , upon annexation) zone located north of Merle Drive
and east of Rebecca Rd.
Mr. Crump presented the Staff Report noting that the language
in the application was Mobile Home Park but it was found to
be a Mobile Home Subdivision. However, both are allowed in
the RM zone.
The two items brought up by Mr. Crump were; Item #1, the design
of the project is not very immaginable and is very static and
lacks proper ammenities. Item #2 is that the parking facil-
ities are not adequate and needed revision.
Mr. Crump recommended that the Planning Commission review the
request in light of the concerns stated in the Staff Report and
if the Commission found the design acceptable, the Staff has
prepared a draft Resolution for the Commission' s consider-
ation.
Chairman Snyder asked if there are any questions by the
Commissioners.
Commissioner Kryder asked about it being a Subdivision rather
than a Mobile Home Park. Would this mean that the maintenance
of the clubhouse and pools and landscaping be the responsibility
of the lot owners. This concerned him as the mobile homes
are moveable.
Mr. Williams indicated that this was similar to a typical
condominium project and that it was not likely to be a problem.
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Chairman Snyder declared the Public Hearing open, asking if
the applicant wished to make a presentation.
ART MC KAY, 81290 , Sirocco, Indio;
Was requested to appear for applicant stating he had
limited knowledge of the project.
Chairman Snyder discussed all the problems that the Commission
was concerned about.
Mr. McKay noted that he knew that the lots would have
two-car garages. He also stated that he felt that a lot
of work would be put into the project so that it would
not be poorly done.
The good points noted by Chairman Snyder were that the lots
would be 20 feet wider than normal and they would have 65 ft.
frontage.
Commissioner Berkey noted that the streets are only 28 feet
wide and that guest parking was inadequate.
Chairman Snyder asked if anyone present wished to speak in
FAVOR or OPPOSITION to this proposal.
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JIM MC KEE, 7306 Joshua Tree, Palm Desert, wished to
state his agreement as to the poor design concept of the
project and the fact that the maneurvability of the pro-
ject is poor.
Chairman Snyder declared the Public Hearing closed and asked
for comments from the Commission.
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City of Palm Desert
July 3, 1979 Page Six
D. (cont. )
A lengthy discussion followed regarding the lack of guest
parking in the southern portion of the project.
Chairman Snyder reopened the Public Hearing.
A motion was made by Commissioner Kryder that this request be
continued to the meeting of July 18th which is a day meeting at
1: 00 P.M. , seconded by Commissioner Berkey and carried unanimously;
(5-0) .
Chairman Snyder suggested in the interium, that the Staff will
attempt to discuss with the applicant a better design effort
relative to parking, streets, and design.
E. Case No. DP 08-79 and 178 MF - TRANSCOPIC DEVELOPMENT CORP. ,
Applicant.
Request for approval of a Planned Residential (Apartment)
Development and preliminary Design Review case to allow
sixty (60 duplix apartments , tennis court and swimming
pool on approximately 10 . 87 acres within the PR-5 (Planned
Residential, max. 5 du/ac) zone located on the east side
of Portola Ave. , south of the Whitewater Storm Channel.
Mr. Crump presented the Staff Report. He indicated the issue
in this matter to be lack of common open space. He noted that
the proposal contains an encroachment of what could be common
open space into what was presented as private yard area. Also
mentioned was the fact that the common open space provision
excludes parking lots. Mr. Crump also felt the need to provide
'A` additional amenities. The Staff recommends approval of DP-
08-79 and 178 MF by adopting Planning Commission Resolution
No. 505 .
Chairman Snyder declared the Public Hearing open, asking if
the Applicant was present and wished to make a presentation.
FRED PACK,Engineer, 4676 Admiralty Way, Marina del Rey,
Ca. , stated that Mr. Lo could comply with the recommended
conditions of approval.
Chairman Snyder asked if anyone present wished to speak in
FAVOR or OPPOSITION of this proposal. There being none,
Chairman Snyder declared the Public Hearing closed.
Chairman Snyder asked if there were any questions or comments
by the Commissioners at this time.
Commissioner Berkey asked if this would be all one full pro-
ject and no phasing. Mr. Crump indicated that it was one
project.
Chairman Snyder questioned Mr. Williams about the minimum
size of the units and asked if there would be the possibility
of them being converted to condominiums. Chairman Snyder
felt that because they were individual duplexes that they
would lend themselves to the conversion and be sold.
Chairman Snyder also noted that they had done a tremendous
job of designing the wedge which had been difficult to dev-
elop for some time.
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City of Palm Desert
July 3 , 1979 Page Seven
E. (cont. )
On a motion by Commissioner Kryder, and seconded by Commissioner
Miller, Case No. DP 08-79 and related Design Review Board Case
No. 178 MF were approved as submitted with the conditions set
forth; by Planning Commission Resolution No. 505; carried unan-
imously (4-0) .
At this point, Engineer Pack asked the Commission if
Mr. Lo would have to come back should he decide to in-
crease the minimum size to 1000 sq. ft.
Chairman Snyder said affirmatively.
F. Case No. DP 09-79 T&D INVESTMENTS/PRO-CON DEVELOPMENT,
Applicants.
Request for approval of a Planned Residential Development
to provide 20 single family attached units, recreational
amenities and common open space on approximately 4 . 9 gross
acres within the PR-5 zone.
Mr. Williams reviewed the report for the Commission noting
that due to an excellent design, the Fire Department feels
that with the center cul de sac treatment, a very good fire
access has been created. The Staff recommends approval of
the design in that it is consistent with standards of the
Ordinance, but with some revisions.
Mr. Williams discussed Condition #8 to reduce the back out
distance of one area.
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Commissioner Miller asked if the water would be draining off
to the South.
Mr. Williams stated yes and mentioned the Tentative Master
Drainage Plan.
There being no applicant present, Chairman Snyder declared
the Public Hearing open, asking if anyone present wished to
speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to this proposal. There being
none, Chairman Snyder declared the Public Hearing closed and
asked for the pleasure of the Commission.
On a motion by Commissioner Kryder, seconded by Commissioner Berkey,
Case No. DP 09-79 was approved by Planning Commission Resolution
No. 506 as presented; carried unanimously (4-0) .
G. Case No. DP 01-79 (Amendment) - DAME '_DOTY DEVELOPMENT CO. ,
Applicant.
Request for approval to operate a clubhouse, restaurant
lounge, and snackbar on an open to the public basis within
the PR-5 (Planned Residential, max. 5 du/ac) zone located
within an approved golf course/condominium development on
%UW the West Side of Portola Avenue and northerly of the White-
water Storm Channel.
Mr. Crump reviewed the Staff Report and recommended approval
of this proposal subject to two conditions. He related to the
consistancy of the approved Development Plan. He also stated
that since this amendment deals with the exception to a strict
application of parking standards for free standing type rest-
aurant, the schedule we have in our parking requirements pro-
vides for a check to see that the clubhouse parking is working
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July 3, 1979 Page Eight
G. (cont. )
prior to the finalizing of the development. The Staff
recommends approval subject to amended conditions.
Chairman Snyder declared the Public Hearing open and asked
if the applicant wished to make a presentation.
RICHARD DOTY, DAME'DOTY DEVELOPMENT CO. , P.O. Box 100
San Ramon, California. 94583.
Mr. Doty stated that he was happy with the upgrading of
the Marco Polo project across the street but was a little
concerned with the Mobile Home Park landscaping and
hopes it can be improved.
Mr. Doty stated his approval of the Resolution as amended,
except for Paragraph 2 , "may upon requiring a Public
Hearing revoke this amendment for approval" . Mr. Doty
would like the words, "revoke this amendment for approval"
be stricken.
Mr. Doty also showed a plan adding 10 additional parking
spaces and stated that they have upgraded the entire in-
terior of the Clubhouse and Restaurant. He also stated
that he could consider changing 20 parking spaces to com-
pact car parking which would give an additional 20 spaces
if needed.
Chairman Snyder asked if they were intending to sell liquor on
the premises. Mr. Doty said yes. There was a brief discussion
on the cost of a liquor license.
tow Chairman Snyder asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR
or OPPOSITION of this proposal. There being none, Chairman
Snyder declared the Public Hearing closed.
The Commission briefly discussed Condition #2 regarding
revocation.
The Commission qu erried Mr. Williams regarding the Staff ' s
approach to enforcement of parking in country clubs. Mr.
Williams pointed out the fact that the proposed design of
this project provides for substantial parking potential on
the entrance street and Staff would not be concerned relative
to parking for the restaurant unless guests were forced to
park all the way out on Portola. The Commission agreed that
substantial on-street parking existed in the project and they
would not be concerned unless guests to the restaurant were
forced to park on public streets.
Mr. Williams indicated his concurrence with Mr. Doty' s
suggested deletion.
On a motion by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner Kryder,
Case NO. DP 01-79 (Amended) was approved by Planning Commission
Resolution No. 507 with Condition #2 amended; carried unanimously;
(4-0) .
VII . OLD BUSINESS - None
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City of Palm Desert
July 3 , 1979 Page Nine
VIII . NEW BUSINESS
A. Coachella Valley County Water District Projects in the
City of Palm Desert.
Commissioner Miller mentioned the problem of street repair
and suggested that a nice letter be sent to the Water Dist.
On a motion by Commissioner Miller, seconded by Commissioner Berkey,
Planning Commission Resolution No. 508 was adopted; carried unan-
imously (4-0) .
IX. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS
A. Case No. 179 MF
Mr. Sawa presented the one item that was considered by
the Design Review Board which was two duplexes on the
corner of San Rafael and Cataline Way. He pointed out
that the applicant was proposing to split the lot to
provide the duplexes.
Commissioner Snyder questioned the merits of considering this
request prior to the filing of a Parcel Map.
Mr. Williams pointed out that the zoning would apply for the
4 units and the Commission as a part of the Parcel Map process
would consider the merits of the lot design at a later date.
tow On a motion by Commissioner Miller, seconded by Commissioner Berkey,
the Design Review Board items were approved by Planning Commission
Resolution No. 509; carried unanimously.
B. At the request of the applicant' s continuing Case No. 116C
was continued to the Planning Commission meeting of July
18 , 1979 by a Minute Motion which was made by Commissioner
Berkey, seconded by Commissioner Snyder and unanimously
carried.
X. DISCUSSION ITEMS
Associate Planner Sawa noted that the Commission should take
particular note of a change in one of the Design Review Board
meetings in August to review Hahn project. He stated this
meeting had been re-scheduled due to a conflict.
Commissioner Berkey asked if an EIR had been prepared for
the Hahn project. Mr. Williams stated that this project
was still in the assesment process but it was likely that
an EIR would be forthcoming on the project and that it was
expected that this document would be filed next month.
tow With the change noted by Associate Planner Sawa, the Commission
accepted the Planning Schedule.
XI . ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
XII. COMMENTS
A. City Staff - None
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City of Palm Desert
July 3 , 1979 Page Ten
B. City Attorney - Not Present
C. Planning Commissioner
Commissioner Berkey asked if the Council had taken any
action on the billboards on Bob Hope Drive.
Mr. Willisms explained that the Council at their last
meeting had agreed to send a letter to the property
owners protesting the billboards and had agreed to
join the City of Indian Wells in taking legal action
if necessary to prevent the installation of the bill-
boards.
The Commission seemed to be in agreement with taking
appropriate action to prevent the installation of bill-
boards along Bob Hope Drive.
XIII . ADJOURNMENT
On a motion by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner
Miller, the meeting was adjourned at 9 : 32 P.M.
PAUL A. WILLIAMS, Secretary
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