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SPECIAL MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT
PLANNING COMMISSION
THURSDAY - OCTOBER 4, 1979
7:00 P.M. - GEORGE WASHINGTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
I . CALL TO ORDER
The special meeting of the Planning Commission was called to
order at 7:03 P.M. by Chairman Snyder at the George Washington
Elementary School Auditorium.
vow II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Commissioner Berkey
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Commissioner Berkey
Commissioner Fleshman
Commissioner Kryder
Commissioner Miller
Chairman Snyder
Staff Present: Paul Williams, Director of Environmental Services
Murrel Crump, Principal Planner
Dave Erwin, City Attorney
Linda Russell , Secretary
Sheila Gilligan, City Clerk
Others Present: Tom Mitchell , Barton-Aschman, Special Traffic
Consultant to Redevelopment Agency
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - NONE
V. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - NONE
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VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Case Nos. CZ 08-79, CUP 09-79, DP 12-79, 120 C and related
EIR, ERNEST W. HAHN, INC. , Applicant.
Request for a Change of Zone from PR-6, S.P. (Planned
Residential , maximum of 6 d.u. per gross acres, Scenic
Preservation Overlay) to R-3 (9) (Multifamily Resi-
dential , max one d.u. per 9,000 sq. ft. of land area)
on approximately 16.0 + acres located at the northeast
corner of E1 Paseo extened and Hwy 111.
Request for a Conditional Use Permit to allow commercially
related parking and a City Fire Station in the proposed
R-3 (9) Zone District on approximately 16.0 * acres
located at the northeast corner of E1 Paseo extended to
Hwy 111.
Request for a Development Plan for a regional shopping
center on approximately 62 ± acres in the P.C. (3) , S.P.
and proposed R-3 (9) Zone Districts located generally
at the northwest corner of the intersection of Monterey
Avenue and Hwy 111.
Request for preliminary Design Review approval of the
total complex.
Chairman Snyder announced that the Commission had met prior to
this meeting, in Study Session for the purpose of discussing agenda matters
to obtain idenification of the reports from staff. Chairman Snyder
introduced Mr. Williams at this time.
Mr. Williams began the presentation with a review of the requests
before the Commission. He then asked Mr. Crump to present the staff report
on the E.I.R.
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Mr. Crump presented the EIR, beginning with a brief background
on the process of the environmental evaluation, resulting in a draft EIR.
He stated the draft EIR was distributed for comments to the Public and
Agencies on August 15, 1979.
Mr. Crump, in reviewing the report, pointed out the Commission
and Council 's responsibilities in relation to this case. He also noted
the procedure required by the City Council before they grant approval ; and,
noted that the Planning Commission must examine the effects of the project
*AM noted
recommends to the Council .
He proceeded to review the significant effects the project would
have. Air Quality would appear to have the most significant unmitigated
effect. In the Case of Transportation/Circulation, Mr. Crump pointed out
the estimates of design day shopper traffic represented in this report were
most likely to occur on the 20th to 30th highest traffic days of the year.
Other Significant effects he mentioned were: Surface Water Runoff, Energy
Cunsumption, Economic Loss, Noise, Land Use, Fire Protection, Police, and
Aesthetics.
Mr. Crump then reviewed the comments received on the draft
EIR, from various agencies. Comments had been received from Riverside County
Planning Department, Southern California Association of Governments, the
City of Rancho Mirage, and Palm Desert Property Owners Association.
In conclusion, Mr. Crump read proposed revisions to the EIR Text,
indicating tht the revisions would become an attachment to the draft EIR.
Mr. Williams then completed the presentation of the EIR by stating
that Mr. Tom Mitchell , of Barton-Acchman, was present for response to questions
on traffic. Also, a representative from Ultrasystems was present to respond
to questions regarding the Environmental Document. He then began to describe
the issues that relate to the project and solutions to these issues.
Mr. Williams first pointed out the location of the project, the
size, and the Zoning Districts involved. The request for a proposed Change
of Zone was summarized by Mr. Williams, who indicated approximately 62 acres
would be acquired for the project. He further noted that the total building
complex, except for the Fire Station, is located in the area zoned P.C. (3) ,
S.P. The proposed Change of Zone would be for that portion of the parking
lot now in the PR-6, S.P. to R-3 (9). He then indicated that the development
would have a total square footage of 937,755 for the center. This would
include various department stores, mall shops, cinemas, ice skating rink,
food service, informational center, child care center, the Valley Players
Guild Theater, and a community hall . Mr. Williams stated that the applicant
has provided 3,940 parking spaces on the site, noting that this is deficient
by 38 spaces from the proposed Ordinance. He indicated that the Ordinance
can be met.
He further pointed out the major acesses: Hwy 111, extension of
E1 Paseo, and Monterey Avenue. He felt that in addition to the Change of
Zone, a Development Plan and Conditional Use Permit was also being requested
The CUP consideration was for the parking and the proposed Fire Station,
and would be a part of the Commission's review. He suggested that the
Commission include the recommendation of the Design Review Board, pointing
out that a list of all the concerns of the DRB had been provided in the
recommended conditions of approval .
On the subject of traffic, Mr. Williams stated that a traffic
study had been done by Barton-Aschman Associates, Inc. , on the project,
and it suggests the street improvements. traffic signals, and intersection
modifications that would be necessary. Drainage was another issue discussed
by Mr. Williams who stated that two issues must be resolved. These issues
were related to the Palm Valley Channel and Hwy 74/Monterey Avenue corridor.
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Further, Mr. Williams indicated that because of the size and
potential number of people the project will be serving, fire protection
would have to increase. He suggested a new Fire Station be built on the
proposed project and a site has been provided by the developer. If the
Commission agrees to a new Fire Station, he stressed that the issue then
becomes "how does the facility get built and how does the specialized
equipment be acquired".
Housing was another matter brought up by Mr. Williams who
pointed out that 5% of new employees would be brought into the Valley. He r
stated that because it is not expected that these employees would qualify
for housing, he feels this has a substantial impact.
Mr. Williams emphasized that noise would become a problem on
the east side of Monterey for the existing residential development. This
is a problem that should be considered. In conclusion, he felt that if
the Commission could solve these issues than the adverse impacts would be
narrowed to one--Air Quality. He stated that he did not believe there are
mitigation measures available to reduce the Air Quality impact.
Mr. Williams then presented the staff's recommended resolutions
to the previously described issues, using the illustrations provided,
Mr. Williams pointed out the impacts on Hwy 111. He stated that a solution
to this would be to improve Hwy 111 from Monterey to Parkview Drive. Further
stating that signals should be installed at Hwy 111, at El raseo, 44th
Avenue, and Bob Hope Drive. Four lane streets should be provided at
Monterey, E1 Paseo extension, and 44th Avenue. Also signals should be installed
at El Paseo and Hwy 74, Monterey and 44th Avenue.
The solution to drainage, Mr. Williams felt was some improvement
to the Palm Valley Channel and a need for interseptors from Hwy 74 to
Palm Valley Channel , the Hwy 74 flooding.
Mr. Williams indicated that the question of funding for all these
improvements is the major problem. He presented a lengthy review of the '
potential funding sources. The conclusions reached by the staff were that
neither the applicant nor the City were capable of funding all the necessary
improvements. Therefore, in conjuntion with the County of Riverside an
applicantion for Federal Assistance was being made. The Grant would include
some on-site and off-site improvements. Mr. Williams stated all the
recommendations of Planning Commission to the City Council , including the
improvements that should be made subject to obtaining a Federal Grant. He
recommended that the Planning Commission approve all the requests by Resolu-
tion No. 536 which included several pages of conditions and a unique action
which was to forward the total request package to the Council for final
action. He suggested some revised wording to one of the WHEREAS'S which
require referral back to the Commission any major changes made by the Council .
He concluded by stating that he would answer any questions regarding
the recommended conditions which the staff felt included all the necessary
mitigation measures.
Chairman Snyder stated he believed all the data on this project has
been provided, and at this time, he opened the Public Hearing by first asking
the applicant to make his presentation.
MR. ERNEST HAHN, Applicant, 47-015 E1 Dorado, Indian Wells, began
his presentation with a brief background on the research process. After he
completed the research, Mr. Hahn stated that he entered into option
agreements with Home Savings and Loan, the owners of the property.
He indicated that his philosophy was to put a store with each
type of relative merchandise without increasing the size. Further, taking
a scientific approach, he knew of the traffic problems that exist. He
also indicated that he analyzed all the businesses on E1 Paseo and believed
that the center would not take away business from them because of the
proposed location of the center. He felt that his philosophy would keep this
business district intact.
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Mr. Hahn then showed slides of the proposed project and gave
a short discussion on each slide shown. He introduced Mike Curby at
that time to give a short presentation on the Ice Capades.
Other representatives Mr. Hahn introduces were: Joe Dueno of
Bullocks, Stew Cory and Ed Hamerick of May Co. , Bob Westerfield of Buffums,
and Dick Donavan of Montgomery Ward. Each representative gave a short
introduction of their store. Mr. Hahn concluded by stating that the
company's philosophy was to provide more merchandise to all members of the
"" family and to serve their needs.
At this time, Chairman Snyder asked if any of the Commissioners
had questions. There being none, he opened the Public Hearing, asking if
there was anyone present who wished to speak in FAVOR of this project.
DON MC NEILY, General Manager of Chamber of Commerce, stated that
many people have showed favoritism to this center. Additionally, the
space provided for the Chamber of Commerce in the proposed shopping center,
would be shared with a list of other organizations.
FLORENCE HAFER, expressed that she was very pleased to see that the
Valley Players Guild Theater will have a place in the center.
MICKEY KNIGHT, 72-627 Beavertail , stated that the City needs this
center and also spoke in favor of the Valley Players Guild.
HENRY HOYLE, stated he was in favor of the project but would like
to see the Planning Commission do something for E1 Paseo, in terms of
preventing anymore banks being built on the street.
Chairman Snyder then asked if there was anyone present wishing to
speak in OPPOSITION of the project.
JAMES MC LAUGHLIN, 73-896 El Paseo and Rancho Mirage, asked a
number of questions relating to the traffic survey.
Chairman Snyder indicated to him that this information would be
available and can be obtained through the City.
Mr. McLaughlin further stated that he had reservations about the
center. He does not believe the current population can support the center
and it would take away business of existing stores. He stressed that this
would not be consistent with the life style of this area.
Chairman Sndyer asked for a rebuttal from the applicant.
Mr. Hahn stated that the retail stores do not create people
but rather serve them. The national average of this area has not been
reached for department store space. He further added that the future of
the existing stores lies with bringing more people to this community to
serve those stores.
Chairman Snyder asked if the Commissioners had any questions at
this time.
Commissioner Berkey asked Mr. Hahn to clarify why he chose this
area rather than one of the other 10 sites he examined.
tow Mr. Hahn responded by stating that the area he chose was because
it is protected and not in a wind/blowsand area.
Commissioner Kryder expressed a concern in relation to the. traffic
at the intersection of the extended El Pas�eo. 'and 44th •Avenue.
Mr. Hahn stated that that particular intersection would serve the
center and that if it later required a signal , he would be more than glad
to install it.
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Chairman Snyder added that a complete study had been made on
this project and hoped the people would concur with the Commission's
findings. He then closed the Public Hearing.
Commissioner Kryder questioned the drainage plan.
Mr. Williams explained the proposed improvements to the Palm
Valley Channel and that interseptors would be provided from Hwy 74 to
Palm Valley Channel .
Commissioner Berkey indicated that there was no metion in the
conditions of the future signal on E1 Paseo and 44th Avenue.
Mr. Williams noted that this would be added to the Special
Conditions, Item No. 4, Listed as "e".
Commissioner Fleshman expressed concern for the lack of data regard-
ing the ratio of jobs vs. the available qualified personnel . He requested that
the applicant provide additional data on this matter.
Mr. Hahn indicated that this was an opportunity for high school ,
college, and senior: citizens. Further, that the major portion of employment
would be for part time help.
Chairman Snyder concluded by stating the problems related to
the project have been discussed thoroughly and decisions should be made.
He reviewed the alternatives and asked for a motion.
Mr. Williams, at this time, summarized the revisions to be made
on the Resolution: In the last WHEREAS, the last phrase to be deleted;
in the same paragraph, after "request" add, "and the Planning Commission
decisions and recommendations"; add to the same paragraph, the last
sentence, "However, any major changes made by the City Council shall be
referred back to the Planning Commission for conformation. " And, add to
Special Conditions No. 4, Item e, to read, "44th Avenue and E1 Paseo
when it meets warrants as determined by the City".
Upon motion made by Commissioner Fleshman, seconded by
Commissioner Kryder, Case Nos. CZ 08=79, DP 12-79, CUP 06-79, 120 C, and
certification of related EIR were recommended to City Council approval by
adoption of Resolution No. 536, as amended. Carried unanimously (5-0) .
VII. OLD BUSINESS - NONE
VIII. NEW BUSINESS - NONE
IX. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS - NONE
X. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - NONE
XI. COMMENTS - NONE
XII. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at t_9:57 P.M.
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PAUL A. WILLIAMS, Secretary
ATTEST:
WAL ER SNYDER, Chai,,rgan
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