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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - OCTOBER 30, 1979
7:00 P.M. - CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
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I. CALL TO ORDER
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Palm Desert Planning
Commission was called to order at 7:oo P.M. by Chairman Snyder
in the City Hall Council Chambers.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Commissioner Berkey
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Commissioner Berkey
Commissioner Fleshman
Commissioner Miller
Chairman Snyder
Staff Present: Paul Williams, Director of Environmental Services
Murrel Crump, Principal Planner
Stan Sawa, Associate Planner
John Dos Santos, Assistant Planner
Linda Russell , Secretary
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Minutes of a special Meeting of October 4, 1979
Mr. Williams noted the following corrections:
On page 4, second to last paragraph should read: "Commissioner
Kryder expressed a concern in relation to the traffic at the intersection
of the extended E1 Paseo and 44th Avenue. "
INV On page 5, paragraph 6 should read: Commissioner Fleshman expressed
concern for the lack of data regarding the ratio of jobs vs. the available
qualified personnel . He requested that the applicant provide additional data
on this matter. "
B. Minutes of regular meeting of October 17, 1979
Upon motion made by Commissioner Fleshman, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder, the minutes of October 4, 1979, were approved as amended; the
minutes of October 17, 1979, were approved as written. Carried unanimously (5-0) .
V. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
Mr. Williams noted that the written communications received were
those related to cases in the Public Hearing.
VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case No. CUP 08-79 - PALM DESERT COMMUNITY SERVICES
DISTRICT, Applicant
Request for approval of a Conditional Use Permit for Public
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to allow continued use of a facility containing an existing
maintenance building, water well building, and living
quarters (with proposed remodeling) on approximately .22
acres within the R-1, S.P. (Single Family Residential ,
Scenic Preservation Overlay) zone located at 44-491 Portola
Avenue.
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VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS (continued)
Mr. Williams stated that the applicant requested a continuance
to the November 14, 1979 meeting.
Upon motion made by Commissioner Kryder, seconded by Commissioner
Fleshman, this case was continued to November 14, 1979. Carried unanimously
(5-0).
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B. Continued Case No. TT 14805 - KAUL CONSTRUCTION, Applicant
Request for approval of a 37 lot residential subdivision
on 7.2 acres within the PR-5 (Planned Residential , 5 d.u./ac. )
zone located on the southside of Country Club Drive, between
Monterey Avenue and Portola Avenue.
Mr. Williams stated that the applicant requested a continuance
to the November 14, 1979 meeting.
Upon motion made by Commissioner Kryder, seconded by Commissioner
Fleshman, this case was continued to November 14, 1979. Carried unanimously
(5-0) .
C. Case No. VAR 07-79 - ERNEST W. HAHN, Applicant
Request for approval of a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance
to increase the height of parking lot light standards from
ten (10) feet to twenty-five (25) feet within the PC-3,
S.P. (Planned Commercial , Regional Center, Scenic Preservation
Overlay) and PR-6, S.P. , rezoned to R-3 (9) , (Multi-Family
Residential , max. 1 d.u./9000 sq. ft. ) zones, generally
located at the northwest corner of Highway 111 and Monterey
Avenue.
Mr. Williams informed the Commission that staff needed technical
expertise to evaluate the request and to give specific information, therefore,
requested a continuance to the meeting of December 4, 1979.
Chairman Snyder asked if the applicant had been notified of this
and does he concur?
Mr. Williams stated that he had received a report but has not
heard from him.
Upon motion made by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder, this case was continued to December 4, 1979. Carried unanimously
(5-0) .
D. Case No. CUP 09-78 Amendment - HUGHES INVESTMENTS, Applicant
Request for approval of an amendment to a Conditional Use
Permit to permit an additional two restaurants making
a total of four, allowed on approximately 5.4 acres located
easterly of Highway 74, between Highway 111 and E1 Paseo.
This case was continued to a later time of the meeting to allow
the applicant to be present.
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E. Continued Case No. CUP 09-78 Amendment - BANK OF INDIO,
Applicant
Request for approval of an amendment of an approved
Conditional Use Permit to allow an additional 20 ft.
wide entrance only driveway on El Paseo to facilitate
access to a bank building on approximately 5.4 acres
total Hughes Investment site) , within the C-1, S.P.
General Commercial District, Scenic Preservation Overlay)
zone generally located at the northeast corner of State
Highway 74 and El Paseo.
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VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS (continued)
Mr. Crump presented this case stating that at the previous Planning
Commission meeting the potential problems of this request were discussed.
A revised illustration was shown with 3 parking spaces eliminated. Mr.
Crump further stated that the same conditions still existed, therefore,
recommended denial .
A short discussion proceeded regarding the entrance driveway off
E1 Paseo.
Chairman Snyder then asked if the applicant cared to make a
statement.
CARL COX, 73-127 Shadow Mountain Drive, requested to move this case
to the last item of the Public Hearings in order to introduce a traffic
engineer, who was not present at this time.
Chairman Snyder concurred to move this case to a later time of
the meeting.
F. Case No. CUP 16-78 Amendment - DON DRYSDALE, Applicant
Request for approval of a Second Modification to a previously
approved Conditional Use Permit to operate a restaurant in
the El Paseo Village project, and a related parking Variance
to reduce the number of parking spaces from 55 spaces required
by the Municipal Code to 26 spaces on property located on the
south side of E1 Paseo between Sun Lodge Lane and Lupine Lane,
within the C-1, S.P. zone.
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Mr. Crump reviewed the staff report and Conditions of Approval . He
pointed out the main issue regarding this request, which was a lack of
parking spaces. He also noted a number of letters had been received in
favor of this request.
There being no questions from the Commission at this time, Chairman
Snyder asked the applicant to make a presentation.
MR. CURT DUNHAM, 45-120 San Pablo, stated that he did not think
condition No. 6 was necessary (which states prior to issuing an Occupancy
Permit, a covenant approved by the City Attorney shall be recorded to
provide for the joint use of parking) . He stated that it was not going
to hurt the E1 Paseo Village. He felt that the City of Palm Desert needed
people like Mr. Drysdale to operate a first class restaurant.
Chairman Snyder opened the Public Hearing asking if anyone present wished
to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to this case.
ROBERT OWENS, 73-125 Shadow Mountain Drive, expressed concern for
the overflow parking that would occur in the residential areas.
Chairman Snyder asked if anyone else had any questions.
Commissioner Miller inquired about the number of seating there would
be in the restaurant. wr
Mr. Crump responded that a floor plan had not been submitted yet. The
only controlling factor was the Fire Code.
Commissioner Fleshman asked if some of the retail shops would have to
be closed when the restaurant was open.
Mr. Williams stated that when the restaurant was opened in total , some
retail shops would have to close, under the joint use concept.
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VI . PUBLIC HEARINGS (continued)
Commissioner Kryder commented that in order to get into
the joint use parking agreement, part of the restaurant would have to
be closed for lunch.
A discussion proceeded regarding the parking deficiency and
restaurant use. Commissioner Fleshman suggested that a section of the
restaurant be used as an office in order to reduce the parking spaces
required. Chairman Snyder concluded the discussion stating that there
should be a solution to this problem and asked if the applicant could
look into other areas for parking.
After consideration of the Planning Commission decision the
Chairman suggested a continuance to allow the applicant to pursue other
alternatives and the applicant was in agreement.
Upon motion made by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder, this case was continued to November 14, 1979. Carried unanimously
(5-0) .
Mr. Williams stated that all the applicants for CUP 09-78, had
arrived. This case was continued.
Mr. Crump presented this case pointing out that this request was
for Building No. 2. He indicated that the Commission had been provided
with a revised sheet for the proposed building No. 6 showing a gain of
21 parking spaces. He also noted that the Commission received a revised
tally of the parking spaces.
There was a short discussion regarding the parking space require-
ments.
Chairman Snyder asked if the applicant cared to make a presentation.
RON ROBERTS, 440 Upas, San Diego, gave a lengthy explanation of
solutions to the parking space problem. He stated that a Variance rather
than a Joint Use procedure would be the solution. He further stated that
if this request was looked at as a center, there would be adequate parking.
Chairman Snyder opened the Public Hearing asking if anyone present
wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to this case.
MR. JAMES CHOW, Architect for Straw Hat Pizza, spoke in favor of
this request pointing out that people who go shopping usually stop to eat
in the same shopping center (vice-versa) , therefore, parking would be used
for the two, requiring less parking spaces.
Chairman Snyder closed the Public Hearing.
The Commission felt the parking space difficiency was not clear.
They felt that perhaps to continue this request would be in order, to give
the applicant a chance to give a clearer plan in relation to the parking.
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Mr. Roberts stated that he could give the Commission all the
information needed at this time, and that a continuance was not necessary.
Commissioner Fleshman pointed out that this request does function
as a center, but was not in proper zoning.
The Commission agreed to give the applicant time to present to
them alternatives for the parking space problem, the Chairman reopened
the hearing and moved this case to a later time of the meeting.
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VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS (continued)
G. Case No. PM 15550 - JAKE EBERLE, Applicant
Request for approval of a Parcel Map to consolidate
two (2) lots into one parcel on approximately .52
acres within the R-2, S.P. (Single Family Residential
Scenic Preservation Overlay) zone generally located
at the Northwest corner of San Gorgonio and San Pablo
Avenues.
Mr. Crump presented this case explaining why it would be necessary
to dedicate and improve the right-of-way on San Pablo. If this was
satisfied the request would be acceptable. He then reviewed the conditions.
Chairman Snyder opened the Public Hearing asking if anyone present
wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to this case. There being none,
the Public Hearing was closed.
Upon motion made by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder, case No. PM 15550 was approved by adoption of Planning Commission
Resolution No. 542. Carried unanimously (5-0) .
H. Case No. TT 15366 - SILVER SPUR ASSOCIATES, Applicant
Request for approval of a Tentative Tract Map to subdivide
an administrative and models complex within Ironwood
Country Club located at the southeast corner of Irontree
Drive and Mariposa Drive.
Mr. Crump described the purpose of the map, which was to define
lots for existing models, proposed models, and future models and also for
the administration sales complex. He pointed out on the map the access v,r,
to the proposed models through the administration building.
Commissioner Fleshman left the room at this time because of a
conflict of interest.
Chairman Sndyer asked if the applicant cared to make a presentation.
LARRY SPICER, 49-200 Mariposa Drive, gave a short presentation for
this request.
Chairman Snyder declared the Public Hearing open asking if anyone
present wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to this case. There being
none, he declared the Public Hearing closed.
On a motion made by Commissioner Miller, seconded by Commissioner
Berkey, case No. TT 15366 was approved by Planning Commission Resolution
No. 543, subject to conditions. Carried 4-0 (Commissioner Fleshman
Abstained)
Commissioner Fleshman returned to the Council Chambers at this time.
THERE WAS A 10 MINUTE RECESS AT 8:20 P.M. . . . .THE MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:30 P.M.
I. Case No. DP 13-79 - SAN CLEMENTE GROUP DEVELOPMENT CORP. ,
Applicant
Request for approval of a Development Plan to allow
construction of 51 condominium units on approximately
ten (10) acres within the PR-7 (Planned Residential ,
Maximum 7 d.u./ac. , Scenic Preservation Overlay) zone
located west of Fairhaven Drive and south of Parkview
Drive.
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VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS (continued)
Mr. Crump presented this case noting that this request has received
a Negative Declaration. He then used the illustrations in describing
r,.. the areas to the north, south, east and west of the project. He reviewed
the staff report describing what would be involved in the development of
this project. He stated that the Design Review Board reviewed these
drawings and noted that they preferred to see the water element reduced.
He concluded by reviewing the alternatives of the proposed Fairhaven Street.
Chairman Snyder asked if the applicant cared to make a presentation.
MR. BOB CRAUSE, San Juan Capistrano, Developer, stated that the
Engineer for the project was present for any questions.
Chairman Snyder declared the Public Hearing open asking if anyone
present wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to this case. There being
none, the Public Hearing was closed.
A short discussion proceeded on what might be developed on the
west side of the project.
Commissioner Fleshman asked Mr. Crause if he understood the
Design Review Board's condition regarding the reduction of the lake.
Mr. Crause replied stating that there would be no problem in
reducing the size of the lake.
%NW Upon motion made by Commissioner Fleshman, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder, this case was approved by adopting Planning Commission Resolution
No. 544, with Special Condition Nos. 2 and 3 deleted. Carried unanimously
(5-0).
VII. OLD BUSINESS - NONE
VIII. NEW BUSINESS - NONE
IX. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS
A. Consideration of cases action on by the Design Review
Board at their meeting of October 23, 1979.
Mr. Sawa presented this case stating the Design Review Board
approved a guard house located at the westerly end of Portola Avenue
just west of Mesa View Drive, and this guard house is similar to the one
at the entrance of Mariposa Drive. He concluded by recommending approval .
Upon motion made by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder, this case was approved by Planning Commission Resolution No. 545.
Carried (4-0) , Commissioner Fleshman abstained.
%NW B. Security Pacific Site
Mr. Sawa presented this case noting that this was only a discussion
item. He stated that this site was reviewed and approved by the ORB and
subsequently denied by the Planning Commission and City Council . The applicant
has now submitted a revised plan that will provide a retail building and bank
with a drive-thru with egress to Portola Avenue. He stated there would also
be a driveway on Larrea and Prickly Pear Lane. He then asked for input from
the Commission.
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IX. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS (continued)
Commissioner Fleshman was concerned for the driveway on Larrea being
too close to the intersection. He asked if it could be moved over.
RON ROBERTS responded to the question stating that it would
not be a problem moving it over. He added that any additional problems
in the future would be resolved.
AT THIS TIME TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE CONTINUED. . . .
D. Case No. CUP 09-78 Amendement HUGHES INVESTMENTS, Applicant
Mr. Williams stated that Staff and the applicant were in agreement
as to the space difficiency and there were 5 options to take. He then
reviewed the options, one being that if the request was determined as a part
of a shopping center it would have a surplus of 40 spaces.
Commissioner Fleshman asked if the 21 spaces on the Frontage Road
would be included, if this were approved.
Mr. Roberts illustrated on the map how this would be done.
Commissioner Fleshman pointed out that the restaurants would be
competing against each other and because they are not long sit-down type
restaurants they would have a great turnover, therefore, requiring less
parking.
Commissioner Kryder asked if the Staff felt the parking was
adequate.
Mr. Williams felt there would be no problem in the evenings and
and if this request was used as a shopping center there would be adequate
parking during the day also.
Commissioner Berkey stated that the Resolution should include
a statement saying that the Commission has acknowledged this as a center
and should be treated as a center.
Commissioner Miller disagreed on this stating that this request
originally was not for a shopping center and should not be changed.
After a long discussion on this matter Chairman Snyder asked
staff if the property is evaluated as a commercial center.
Mr. Williams responded stating that this request was comparable
to the Smith's Food King situation and it was as close as you can get to
being a shopping center.
Chairman Snyder asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to this case. There being none, the Public Hearing was closed.
Upon motion made by Commissioner Fleshman, seconded by Commissioner
Berkey, this case was approved by adopting Planning Commission Resolution
No. 546, as amended. Carried 4-1, Commissioner Miller voted No.
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E. Case No. CUP 09-78 Amendment - BANK OF INDIO, Applicant
At this time, the applicant, Mr. Carl Cox, stated that a plot
plan was sent to Cal Trans, who stated there would be no problem with this
driveway. He also contacted an engineer, who was present.
Chairman Snyder opened the Public Hearing.
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E. Continued Case No. CUP 09-78 Amendment - BANK OF INDIO (con't)
MR. HARRY KRUEPER, Consulting Traffic Engineer, 568 No. Mountain
View Ave. , San Bernardino, presented a report to the Commission, which
explained why the access on E1 Paseo would not create a traffic problem.
Chairman Snyder closed the Public Hearing. He stated that he
was not in favor of this and still believed, after evaluating the intersection,
that it would be a dangerous situation.
Mr. Beebe explained that even with signals at the intersection
there would still be a problem of traffic backing up. He stressed that
he was not in favor of the proposed access.
Commissioner Kryder indicated that he believed it would not be
a dangerous situation and pointed out that Cal Trans officials and a qualified
traffic consultant, who had reviewed the plans, seemed to agree on this
point.
Chairman Snyder pointed out that simple alternatives were given
to the applicant, but were refused. Mr. Williams also pointed out that
this area was pedestrian oriented.
Commissioner Kryder again expressed his views in this matter
and made a motion to approve this case. The motion was dropped due to
lack of a second.
Motion was made by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner
Fleshman, to deny this case by adopting Planning Commissioner Resolution No.
547, as written. Carried 4-1, Commissioner Kryder voted No.
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X. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - NONE
XI. COMMENTS
Commissioner Miller expressed his views on certain cases that
were presented during the meeting.
Commissioner Berkey asked to be updated on the Frontage Road
situation.
Mr. Beebe stated there would be minor changes but these changes
would not be made until they let the Frontage Road function for a while.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
Upon Motion made by Commissioner Kryder, Seconded by Commissioner
Berkey, the meeting was adjourned at 10:28 P.M.
PAUL A. WI LIAMS, Secretary
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W LTER SNYDER, Chair n
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