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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
WEDNESDAY - FEBRUARY 20, 1980
1:00 P.M. - CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
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I. CALL TO ORDER
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Palm Desert Planning
Commission was called to order at 1:00 P.M. by Chairman Snyder .
in the City Hall Council Chambers.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Commissioner Berkey
�► III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Commissioner Berkey
Commissioner Kryder
Commissioner Miller
Chairman Snyder
Staff Presdent: Paul Williams, Director of Environmental Services
Murrel Crump, Principal Planner
Stan Sawa, Associate Planner
John Dos Santos, Assistant Planer
Linda Russell , Secretary
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Minutes of regular meeting of February 20, 1980.
Upon motion made by Commissioner Berkey, seconded by Commissioner
Kryder, the Minutes of February 20, 1980, were approved as written.
Carried unanimously (4-0) .
V. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - NONE
VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS - NONE
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VII. OLD BUSINESS - NONE
VIII . NEW BUSINESS
A. Approved Case No. DP O1-78, PDR ASSOCIATES, Applicant,
(Represented by: Ballew-McFarland)
Determination of permitted uses, and interpretation of
a condition.
Mr. Crump presented this item, indicating that there were two subjects
that Commissian needed to consider related to this approved development plan:
A) acceptable �ses for the PC (4) zone; and, B) determination of the applica-
tion of a condition of approval . Mr. Crump stated that the applicant submitted
a list of potential tenants, which were categorized in the staff report under
the three permitted uses for the PC zone, and "other uses". He then explained
that a letter was received by the applicant's representative stating that two
potential restaurant pads may not be under construction before the balance of
the site is completed. Mr. Crump further stated that because of a condition
of the deve1opment plan approva1 , the Commission would need to determine if
the project can be done in phases, or if the intent of the condition was to
require the project to be completed in its entirety before occupancy is granted.
He recommended that the Commission make these determinations by Minute
Motion.
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Commissioner Kryder and Commissioner Berkey stated that the ordinance
needed a more precise interpretation as to what uses would be acceptable for
this zone.
Mr. Williams explained that the uses are determined in the PC zone
by the Commission's decision as to what they feel would be acceptable for
that particular development.
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VIII. NEW BUSINESS (continued)
Commissioner Berkey also stated that the ancillary uses was not
specific in the ordinance. He pointed out that it was not clear as to
whether ancillary uses were categorized together with hotels and should
be related together or not. Mr. Williams explained that the Commission _
can make a determination by using the concept of "resort" and what would
be supportive of a hotel . �
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Chairman Snyder stated that this was a difficult decision to make �
because the zoning ordinance was too liberal and the Commission would +�
have to be careful in making the decision as to what is permitted and
what is not.
Commissioner Berkey and Commissioner Kryder felt it would be
impossible to make a decision and suggested that the ordinance be re-
written to specify what is acceptable.
Chairman Snyder asked if the representatives of the applicant were
present to comment on this project.
MR. BOB GILROY, Partner for PDR Associates, stated that they were
obligated to present a list of potential tenants to the Commission. He
explained how he came up with this list and did feel all of these potential
tenants are acceptable.
Chairman Snyder asked Mr. Gilroy what he thought the hours would
be for the businesses. Mr. Gilroy replied that most would have the same
hours as the restaurants.
; Commissioner Miller asked how many shops would be there. Mr. Gilroy
replied that his guess would be 10 to 20.
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Commissioner Kryder asked st�ff what would happen if one of the �
permitted tenants sold out and another different type of nonpermitted �
business attempted to come in. Mr. Williams stated that the business
license would not be approved. Commissioner Kryder then pointed out that
maybe it would be better to approve the businesses individually.
Commissioner Berkey disagreed with this idea and felt that the
only other way to do this is to make a list for the ordinance for the
PC zone, specifying what is acceptable.
Chairman Snyder suggested a zone change. Mr. Williams explained
the purpose of the Planned Commercial zone and why that particular area
is zoned Planned Commercial , Resort Center.
Commissioner Berkey then suggested that they pick out from the
list of potential tenants the ones that are acceptable.
Commissioner Kryder asked Mr. Gilroy if the offices would be
located on the second floor. Mr. Gilroy replied that they would.
Commissioner Kryder asked Mr. Gilroy what was meant by the
term "potential " restaurants. He wanted a clarification as to whether
there would be restaurants or not. Mr. Gilroy explained that one
restaurant is currently in plan check but plans for the other have not '�
been submitted. He did add that the intent is to have all five restaurants �
there. ��
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After some discussion continued on this matter Commissioner Berkey
suggested that they vote on each individual item.
Commissioner Kryder stated that he needed some basis on how to ,
judge each item. Commissioner Berkey explained what he felt should be
classified in a General Commercial zone (for residen�s) vs. Planned
Commercial Resort Center zone (for visitors) .
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VIII . NEW BUSINESS (continued)
Mr. Williams also clarified this by referring to the Redevelopment
Plan, which identified the uses in the PC(4) zone as: hotels, moteis, rest-
aurants, theaters, entertainment facilities and related uses.
The Commission agreed to vote on each item and concurred with staff' s
permitted uses list with the exception of auto rentals. -
Commissioner Berkey made a minute motion to approve the staff's list
as written under: Notels and related ancillary commercial uses, with the
� item "auto rental" deleted, and the word store to be changed to shop; Rest-
aurants (and similar uses) ; and listed under Other Uses , to include "Antiques"
as a permitted ancillary commercial use.
Commissioner Kryder seconded the motion with the additional items of
"optometrist" and "Bath Tile and Interior Decor" , under Other Uses, to be
added.
Chairman Snyder asked if Mr. Gilroy cared to comment. Mr. Gilroy
stated that he originally had this approved with the offices included. He
explained how he had provided for the offices on the second floor, and now it
has put him in a bind if they don't include these.
Commissioner Berkey indicated he did not recall "offices" ever being
brought up when it was approved.
Chairman Snyder called for a 10 minute recess to give staff and applicant
time to confirm this matter.
COMMISSION RECESSED FOR 10 MINUTES AT 2:35 P.M. -- MEETING RECONUENED AT 2:45 P.M.
At this time, Chairman Snyder recessed this motion to a later time of
the meeting and continued to the Discussion Items.
� X. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Article on Public Hearings
Mr. Williams stated that he received this article on public hearings and
thought that there were good points worth sharing with the Commission. It was
included in the agenda for discussion and to allow the Commission to gain
another point of view.
B. Continued Discussion: General Plan Update
A memo was distributed to the Commission relative to citizen input in
General Plan 1Jpdate.
Mr. Williams reviewed the memo stating that the purpose of the report
� was to describe various ways to obtaining citizen input. He then described
the techniques in which to involve residents: 1) Public Hearings; 2) Study
Sessions; 3) Press Releases; 4) Public Forums. Mr. Williams recommended that
they use Public Forums, and a�so for the Commission to adopt the method to
disseminate a summary of the General Plan.
Chairman Snyder asked about the size of the summary to be sent out to
the public. Mr. Williams replied that it uaould be about five pages long.
Chairman Snyder was in favor of that size.
�""` Commissioner Berkey questioned on the matter of setting up the proce-
dure of giving further in-depth material to the public. He felt it was not
necessary. He suggested that the summary mail out should also include a
schedule of Public Hearing dates and a comment card.
Staff explained that there were still a few elements of the General
Plan Update to be discussed in future meetings. The Commission directed staff
to hold back on the public dates schedule until discussion on the General Plan
Update is completed.
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VIII . NEW BUSINESS (continued)
Mr. Crump had reviewed all the prior material and found there was
no mention of general/professional business offices.
Mr. Gilroy noted that 4800 sq. ft. of professional office space
was stated in his presentation material .
Mr. Williams explained that a matter of defining professional offices
for that area was probably needed.
Commissioner Berkey suggested that they act on the motion made and
then resolve the rest of the matter at a later time.
Mr. Crump pointed out that it might further clarify the definition of
offices if general offices and professional offices could be separated by
the applicant. and a specific listing of office uses submitted for Commission
review. Commission concurred.
Chairman Snyder reviewed the motion made, with the addition of:
"The category of General and Professional Offices will be further defined
and submitted for approval ".
The motion was unanimous.
On the item for determination of the application of a condition of
approval , the Commission felt that their only concern was for the construc-
tion of one remaining pad. Commissioner Kryder made a minute motion to
allow the project to proceed in a normal and business like manner until
completion, it was seconded by Commissioner Miller. Carried unanimously (4-0).
IX. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS
Consideration of cases acted on by the Design Review Board at their
meeting of February 12, 1980.
Case No. 104 MF - Mr. Sawa presented this case stating that this
was a 12-unit condominium project, which is now under construction. The
Design Review Board approved the preliminary plans to add a recreation
building and cabana with several modification. He reviewed the modi-
fications.
Case No. 102 C - Mr. Sawa presented this case stating that this
originally was reviewed by the Planning Commission as a conceptual plan.
The Design Review Board approved the preliminary plans for the addition
to the bank site with several revisions. He reviewed the revisions.
Case No.200 MF - Mr. Sawa presented this case stating that this
was also approved by the Design Review Board with some revisions.
He reviewed these revisions and recommended approval for the three items.
Commissioner Kryder asked if wind/blowsand protection along the
north and west side of the project wasn't necessary. It was discussed and
agreed to add the requirement of: Wind/blowsand protection shall be added
along the north and west side.
Upon motion made by Commissioner Kryder, seconded by Commissioner
Berkey, the Design Review Board actions were approved by adoption of �
Planning Commission Resolution No. 573, as amended. Carried unanimously
(4-0) .
X. DISCUSSION ITEMS (continued)
B. General Plan Update
The Commission agreed to discuss this matter at the first meeting •
in March.
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XI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - NONE
XII. COMMENTS
Commissioner Berkey requested some material from staff: 1)
Complete set of up-to-date zoning maps; 2) Revisions for new permitted
uses in the SI zone, and any other revisions made to the zoning ordinance;
� 3) A copy of the north side drainage plan and ordinance.
XIII. ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion made by Commissioner Kryder, seconded by Commissioner
Miller, the meeting was adjourned at 4:00 P.M. Carried unanimously (4-0).
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PAUL A. WILLIAMS, Secretary
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WALTER SNYDER, Chairm
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DETERMINATION OF ACCEPTABLE USES
FOR PDR ASSOCIATES
BY PLANNING COMMISSION BY MINUTE MOTION
FEBRUARY 20, 1980
Hotels and Related ancillary commercial uses
• Clothing and Apparel Shops
• Luggage and Leather
• Jewelry
• Silver/Gold Craftsman Gallery
• Book Shop
� Cards and Gifts
• Art Gallery
• Boutique
• Golf and Sporting Goods Shop
• Chess and Game Shop
• Candy Shop
• Liquor and Wine Shop
• Exercise Spa
� Figure Salon
�„ • Barber/Beauty
• Nails and Accessories
• Travel Agency
• Optometrist
• Bath Tile and Interior Decor
• Antiques
Restaurants (and similar uses)
• Five Restaurants
• Ice Cream Shop
• Wine and Cheese Shop
NOTE: General and Professional Offices to be clarified by
Planning Commission at a later date.
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