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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - JUNE 1, 1982
7:00 P.M. - CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAiVIBERS
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I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Kryder called the meeting to order at 7:03 P.M.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Commissioner Wood
III. ROLL CALL
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Members Present: Commissioner Miller
Commissioner Richards
Commissioner Wood
Chairman Kryder
Excused Absent: Commissioner Crites
Staff Present: Ray Diaz, Director of Environmental Services
Stan Sawa, Principal Planner
Steve Smith, Associate Planner
Linda Russell, Planning Secretary
N. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: May 18, 1982
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Richards, to approve the
minutes as submitted. Carried unanimously 4-0.
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Diaz reviewed the actions of the Council from the meeting of May 20, 1982.
VI. CONSENT CALENDAR
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All matters listed on the Consent Calendar are considered to be routine and will be
enacted by one roll call vote. There will be no separate discussion of these items
unless members of the Planning Commission or audience request specific items be
removed from the Consent Calendar for separate discussion and action.
A. DP OS-81 and TT 14080, T � D INVES"fMENTS c/o VDAGNER-STANFORD
CONSULTANTS - Request for approval of a one year and 18 month time
extension for a Development Plan and Tentative Tract Map, respectively,
for a 47 unit condominium project on the north side of Hovley Lane, 2600
feet east of Monterey Avenue.
Staff recommended approval.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Wood, to approve
Consent Calendar item as presented by staff. Carried unanimously 4-0.
VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case No. CUP OS-82 - DANNY AND LORETTA HIGH, Applicants
Request for approval of a Conditional Use Permit to allow
a day nursery for 12 children in the R-1 (Single Family
Residential) zone located at the northeast corner of
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Mr. Diaz reviewed the request continued from the meeting of May 4th at the
applicant's request. He noted that the applicants had modified their request to limit the
CUP to 6 months to give them an opportunity to relocate at facilities provided by the
First Baptist Church. Mr. Diaz noted that several letters had been received in favor and
opposition. Staff felt the use was unacceptable, because of its incompatibility with the
neighborhood and recommended denial.
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Chairman Kryder opened the public hearing asking if the applicant wished to make
a presentation.
MR. DANNY HIGH, 45-845 Panorama Dr., explained the request was for a 6 month
Conditional Use permit to give them an opportunity to acquire a facility at the church.
Mr. High expressed the need for this type of service for this City. Mrs. High presently has
a license from the County for 5 children but because of growing needs and limited places
that provide adequate child care, this request is being made for 12 children.
�„ Commissioner Wood asked what the age range of the children were. Mr. High
referred the question to his wife.
MRS. LORETTA HIGH, replied that there was a variety in age groups but their
concern right now was for the older brothers and sisters who will not have a place to go
once school is over for the summer becaue of limited space at Hope Lutheran. She
stressed the need and the major problem for day care centers.
Commissioner Wood asked what the children did during the day. Mrs. High replied
that she had different activities planned inside the home; since the first complaint had
been made about the children she had not let them play outside.
Chairman Kryder asked if anyone was in FAVOR of this request.
REVEREND STEVEN LEWIS, Paster of First Baptist Church, 38817 Bel Air,
Cathedral City, explained that Mr. and Mrs. High came to him with this problem and the
people of the church felt since the church was only used a few times a week a day care
facility would be a way of expanding the church to provide the needs for the community.
He indicated that since it would take time to Qrepare the facility, the request for a 6
month Conditional Use Permit at the home of Mr. and Mrs. High was necessary.
Chairman Kryder asked if all this can be accomplished in six months. Rev. Lewis
replied that it should be and noted that he had started application procedures already.
The church is located at 73-550 Santa Rosa Way (R-2 zone).
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DIANNE FUNK, 72-755 Pitahaya, stated that she has a child that has been taken
care of by Mrs. High and has been very happy with the type of care that has been
provided.
Commissioner Wood asked where she would have taken her child if this facility
would not have been available. Ms. Funk replied that she did not know but because she
had a bad experience with an unlicensed babysitter she hesitated to take her child where
they were not licensed through the county. She noted that there are only four licensed
babysitters in the city and they have their limited number of children already.
MR. GREGORY BLAKE, 54-625 Obregon, La Quinta, expressed his utmost
confidence in Mrs. High's ability to take care of his child and the service provided by her.
MR. CHARLES TRIPP, 74-232 Aster, stated he was President of the Youth Sports
Association and spoke on behalf of the Highs and felt they were people who had well
behaved children. He felt that the Highs would do anything required o# them to
accommodate the neighborhood. He noted that it was time the city recognized the needs
of families with children and support these needs.
Chairman Kryder asked if anyone wished to speak in OPPOSITION:
MR. i�1ARK McKELL, 74-410 l�eppergrass (across from Highs), stated that he knew
of the great need for child care, but 12 children in a residential area, playing outside
along a well traveled street, was not practical. He requested denial.
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Commissioner Wood asked if the children playing in the street were Mr. and Mrs.
High's. Mr. McKell replied that he had reason to believe they were.
MRS. HARTLEY GURREY, 74-255 Peppergrass, explained that she had no quarrels
with any of the reasons stated for the necessity of such a facility but the issue was the
location. She believed that such a facility did not belong in a residential zone and felt
that it lowers the value and quality of living.
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Commissioner Wood asked Mrs. Gurrey if she was aware of the fact that Mrs. High
was licensed to take care of 5 children now. Mrs. Gurrey believed that it would not
impact the neighborhood as it does or would with a larger number.
MRS. EVELYN MERRYMAN, 74-387 Peppergrass, also felt that this facility did not
belong in a residential area. She felt that if this request was granted it would set a
precedent, She assured everyone that she was not against the day care center and knew
of the need, but not in the R-1 zone.
� Because Commissioner Wood felt it was not clear as to what the request was for
Mr. Diaz clarified that the request was for 6 months and if the Commission wished it
could grant the Conditional Use Permit with a condition that it only be for b months.
MRS. ETTA DUNN, 74-394 Peppergrass, also felt this facility did not belong in the
residential area.
MR. GILBERT 'fHOMPSON, 74-479 Peppergrass, noted that Mr. and Mrs. High's
house is small and felt it was not suitable for a large number of children.
Commissioner Richards noted that he lived 3 blocks away from the Highs and also
has three children. He is aware of the child care problems and also aware of the problems
that might arise from a facility such as this in a residential neighborhood.
MS. DARLENE CURRY, 74-450 Peppergrass, asked what would happen if the
church facility was not ready in 6 months. Chairman Kryder replied that that would be all
the time they would be granted (assuming 6 months was granted). She opposed this
request.
MIKE THOMAS, 74-455 Parosella, noted his opposition to this request.
MRS. FRANCINE FISHER, 74-445 Parose�la, explained that she and her husband
bought their home 3 years ago in that particular neighborhood because they felt it was a
quite neighborhood with most of the residents being retired. She indicated that because
'� her husband keeps odd hours with his business and she has a newborn baby they need their
sleep and/or privacy during the day. She cannot cope the with the noise of traffic
generated by the day care center early in the mornings. She was also representing her
next door neighbor who lives at 74-225 Parosella.
MR. CARL LITTLE, 74-396 Chicory, also opposed the day care center being in a
residential area.
There was additional input in FAVOR:
MS. JUNE HUSSER, 43-471 Virginia, asked where could these children go if not to
Mrs. High. She agreed that a residential area was not a good locatinn for this type of
facility but noted that this request was only for 6 months.
MS. RHONDA NAPOLEON, 73-957 Alessandro, expressed the respect Mr. and Mrs.
High have from everyone who knows them. She felt that it was not fair to keep the
children inside their home all day but because of the complaints Mrs. High has done so.
APPLICANT'S REBUTTAL:
Mr. High stated that since the children are in the home all day there should not be
any problems. He noted that he has put a lot of time into the youth organizations in the
city and with this request he is just trying to provide a service that would benefit the
parents in this city. He also noted that the County license allows them to have five
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children now in addition to their own.
Commissioner Miller asked if Mr. High knew of all the requirements he has to meet
requested by the �irector of Public Works and Fire Marshal, in order to keep his County
license. Mr. High replied affirmative. �
Commissioner Wood pointed out that the children playing out in the street were the
High's children and not the day care children.
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There was additional input in FAVOR:
MS. JEAN KATIWOKA, 54-205 Avenida Martinez, La Quinta, requested approval
for the six months permit.
MR. TIM JOHNSON, 43-100 Portola, noted that areas or facilities for this type of
service are limited. '�
There was additional input in OPPOSITION:
MS. EVELYN MERRYMAN wanted to point out again that this area was not zoned
properly for a day care center and the church facilities might not be ready in six months.
Chairman Kryder closed the public hearing and asked for further comments from
Commission.
Commissioner Miller felt that there were many parents out of the City area and
they could look into day care centers in other nearby cities. He believed six months was
not enough time for the church to expand a facility, therefore, would not be ready in
time.
Commissioner Richards felt that although he knew this service is greatly needed in
the city, residents who buy property have legal rights.
Commissioner Wood pointed out that five children would be allowed by law and the
City could not change this. He was in favor of granting a six month Conditional Use
Permit.
Chairman Kryder stated that the need for this service unfortunately does not enter
into the decision made. 1'he Conditional Use Permit findings have to be justified in order
to grant approval of this request. In this case, the location will be detrimental to the �
public and many neighbors were heard tonight in opposition. Chairman Kryder also felt it `�
would set a precedent.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Miller, to waive
further reading and adopt Planning Commission Resolution No. 803, denying CUP 05-82.
Carried 3-1 (with Commissioner Wood voting Nay).
A TEN MINUTE RECESS WAS Cf1LLED AT 8:20 P.M. - THE MEETING RECONVENED AT
8:30 P.M.
B. Continued Case No. ZOA 04-82 - CITY OF PALM DESERT, Applicant
Consideration of a Zoning Ordinance Amendment relating
to nonconforming lots, buildings, uses and land.
Mr. Smith gave the staff report on this matter continued from the May 4th
meeting. The matter was continued to enable staff to contact the businesses impacted by
the proposed revisions.
Mr. Smith reported that those businesses that would be required to take some
remedial action (i.e. provide screening, etc) were contacted by letter and that the list of
those businesses notified was contai�ed in the staff report on file in the department.
Chairman Kryder opened the public hearing and asked if anyone wished to speak in
FAVOR or OPPOSITION to this case.
MS. ELEANOR SIEGEL, 74-196 Highway 111, owner of J dc E Automotive, asked if
they could sell the business with this new proposed amendment.
Mr. Diaz replied that they would be permitted to sell if tfie business began
operating within 180 days after sale.
MR. EDMUND BERKELY, 73-195 Hwy 111, owner of Palm Desert Glass, inquired if
the new ordinance would preclude him from enclosing activities in a building presently
done outdoors. Mr. Diaz responded that it would not.
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Chairman Kryder closed the public hearing. ,
Commissioner Richards expressed his favorable opinion on the matter.
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Richards, to waive
further reading and adopt Planning Commission Resolution No. 804, recommending ZOA
04-82. Carried unanimously 4-0.
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C. Case No. ZOA 06-82 - CITY OF PALM DESERT, Applicant
Consideration of a Zoning Ordinance Amendment relating
to Nonconforming Signs.
Mr. Diaz reviewed the proposed Ordinance Amendment explaining that this would
allow present business owners to operate with their nonconforming signs until the transfer
of ownership or alteration of the sign. Staff recommended approval.
Chairman Kryder opened the public hearing and asked if anyone present wished to
speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to this case. There being none, the public hearing was
closed.
Commissioner Richards indicated that this would be a step in the right direction
but also felt that it was unfair to those business owners who had complied to the Sign
Ordinance prior to this proposed amendment.
Moved by Commissioner Miller, seconded by Commissioner Wood, to waive further
reading and adopt Planning Commission Resolution No. 805, recommending ZOA 06-82.
Carried 3-0-1 (Commissioner Richards Abstained).
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VIII. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ITEMS:
Preliminary plan approvals by the Design Review Board at its meeting of May 25,
1982, requiring Planning Commission confirmation.
A. Case No. 236 MF - SILVER SPUR ASSOCIATES - Preliminary design
approval for revisions to existing entry to Ironwood Country Club at
Mariposa Drive and Portola Avenue.
B. Case No. 237 CVIF - McLAIN DEVELOPMENT CO. - Preliminary and final
approval of new building elevations for two unit types within Silver Sand
Racquet Club, at the southeast corner of Country Club Drive and Portola
Avenue.
Staff recommended approval by Minute Motion.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Wood, to confirm
Design Review Board's approvals by minute rnotion. Carried unanimously 4-0.
IX. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS - NONE
X. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - NONE
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XI. COMMENTS
Commissioner Miller stated he would not be attending the next Planning
Commission meeting due to family illness out of state.
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XII. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Wood, to adjourn the
meeting at 8:50 P.M. Carried unanimously 4-0.
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� RAMON A. DIAZ, Secretary
ATTEST:
GEORGE D. KRYDER, Chairman
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