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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
'fUESDAY - MAY 1, 1984
7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CEN1'ER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
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A STUDY SESSION WAS HELD PRIOR TO THE MEETING IN THE COMMUNITY
SERVICES CONFERENCE ROOM AT 5:30 P.M.
�; I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Wood called the meeting to order at 7:05 P.M.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Commissioner Crites
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Commissioner Crites
Commissioner powns
Commissioner Erwood
Commissioner Richards
Chairman Wood
Others Present: Ramon Diaz
Stan Sawa
Steve Smith
Phil Drell
Phil Joy
Linda R�ssell
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: April 17, 1984
� Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Richards, to approve
the minutes as submitted. Carried unanimously 5-0.
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Diaz reviewed the actions of the council for the meeting of April 26, 1984.
VI. CONSENT CALENDAR - NONE
VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Case Nos. PP 84-7 dc C/Z 84-3 - BEAUCHAMP REALTY, Applicant
Request for approval of a change of zone, precise plan and
development agreement to allow construction of 220 units
on 10.1 acres generally located on the east side of
Monterey Avenue, 350 feet north of San Gorgonio Way.
Mr. Drell gave the staff report and noted staff's concerns were design and
compatibility. The proposed density of 22 units per acre results in unavoidable
conflicts with surrounding properties; therefore, staff recommended that the
applicant revise the plans to address the neighborhood's concerns, or deny the
request.
�;,,,,,, A letter from Loraine and Robert Frederickson was received in opposition of the
zone change.
Commissioner Crites asked what information staff had regarding impacts to
neighbors in R-1 abutting parking areas with this type of proposed density. Mr.
Drell replied that the city has experienced this with commercial parking abutting
R-1 but not this type of residential density.
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Chairman Wood asked what was being proposed as a buffer on the south and north
sides of the project. Mr. Drell replied that heavy tree landscaping is proposed on
the south to screen views of the project. On the north they propose to keep open
to minimize obstruction of views of the mountain to the south and west.
Chairman Wood opened the public hearing and asked if the applicant wished to
make a presentation. The applicant was not present.
Chairman Wood asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR. There was �
none offered.
Chairman Wood asked if anyone present wished to speak in OPPOSITION:
JUDITH LANG, 73-330 Royal Palm, stated she was representing east side of
Monterey and west of San Pablo. She gave commission a petition with 177
signatures in opposition. Their concerns included the possibility of the
emergency exist being used as an access thereby creating traffic hazards in
the Royal Palm area. She also believed property values would be lowered if
this project was approved because it was her experience that owners of
rental property do not maintain the area as well as owner-occupied
residents. She believed that usually renters exceed the 2-car per family.
She also emphasized the need to unite the city as a whole rather than
serving only those on the south side of the city.
KIEGER BARTON, 44-519 San Enselmo, did not believe the gates would stay
closed at the east end to Royal Palm. He felt that Monterey Avenue was
already a busy street and with the added traffic generated from this
proposed project it could become very dangerous for pedestrians. The
proposed density is not compatible to the neighborhood. He did not believe
apartment units were needed in the city (i.e. advertisements in newpaper for
rent). The high density will destroy his view. The proposed play area would
create impacts to the adjacent property owners. He also disapproved of the
trash bin location and felt the court lights would be q�estionable. He �
concluded that the 10 acres should be developed as R-1 only.
GLORIA SHAVER, 73-041 Guadalupe, submitted a letter objecting to the
proposed project. She summarized the letter by pointing out the reasons for
objecting to this project: Traffic, storm drain, security, no RV storage, and
noise impacts.
BOB GROWIER, 73-180 Catalina, felt that staff had not adequately
addressed the problem of view. Visitor parking and traffic was not
considered.
CHUCK LANG, 73-330 Royal Palm, pointed out that the Town Center was
not supposed to generate more traffic but it has. With this proposed project
they will see more traffic.
STAN SULFRET, 44-695 San Antonio Circle, felt that the area has become a
getto. There is a traffic problem. He felt that cars are parked along the
street from renters. He has a problem parking his recreational vehicle. He
does not want apartment units, the renters would demolish the property in
the area.
Mr. Diaz asked Mr. Sulfret to contact him regarding the recreational vehicle
problem.
MR. JOHN TESMAN, Guadalupe, was concerned with a 10 foot easement on ,�
Guadalupe. He believed it was quick claimed and was concerned that the
owners would cancel the easement and require property line adjustment.
Mr. Drell assured him that the owner of the easement is renouncing that easement
and give up all rights to it.
1ACKLYN POWERS, felt that the proposed buffering would not resolve the
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problem of privacy, noise and vandalism that is already there. She believed
the density was too high. She felt a drainage problem will occur from this
project and asked if the pads would be built up.
Mr. Drell responded that the project would be draining into the storm drain
constructed along Monterey therefore will not have to be built up since it will not
be draining onto a road. A condition could be added that the height from natural
grade would have to be maintained regardless of drainage provisions.
""'' MS. POWERS added that the San Gorgonio traffic is already dangerous and
that area would be suffering for just one developer. She felt single family
or condominiums would be more suitable.
Chairman Wood asked the applicant for a REBUTTAL.
MR. PHILIP WALL, project director, feit there was a dire need for rental
units and the proposed site would be appropriate.
MR. STEWART WOODARD, architect, spoke on the issues raised. 1) Views:
he felt this issue was adequately addressed by staff and explained how the
proposed setbacks minimize this impact. 2) Traffic: No traffic going
through the single family residents; is willing to revise the emergency
access to assure that it is not used as access. 3) Trash bins: No trash bins
located on the north property line. 4) Visitor traffic: The parking provided
would be more than adequate, no on-street parking. 5) Property
devaluation: He does not believe single family homes would ever be
proposed for this property; therefore, needs of the city have to be looked at
for this property. He concluded stating this was a good project and it would
suit the needs of the city (which was identified as rental units). As far as
security, a 6 foot block wall along the entire project is proposed.
Chairman Wood closed the public hearing and asked for the pleasure of the
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commission.
Commissioner Crites felt that the applicant did the best job possible designing a
project for that site but it was not compatible. He felt there were too many
impacts and issues to the neighborhood and the density proposed is too high. He
addressed the remarks made in terms of renters vs. property owners and did not
agree that rented property is not maintained as well.
Commissioner Richards felt that the applicant made a good point when he stated
that something has to happen in that area, it cannot stay vacant. But the question
was compatibility. He felt that 22 units per acre in the middle of an R-1 existing
residential area is not compatible. In addressing a statement made earlier about
the north vs. south site of the city, he disagreed stating that alot of time had been
spent (and still is) for the north side.
Commissioner Erwood also addressed a remark made earlier in regards to renters
and stated that everyone must start somewhere and more than likely you start as a
renter. These are not second class people. There are too many impacts on the
surrounding neighborhood, therefore finds the project incompatible also.
Chairman Wood felt there was a need for this type of housing but the the proposed
site was not the place for it.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Erwood, instructing
staff to prepare a resolution of denial. Carried unanimously 5-0.
� A RECESS WAS CALLED AT 8:25 - 'fHE MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:35 P.M.
B. Case Nos. ZOA 84-2 - CITY OF PALM DESERT, Applicant
To re-establish minimum floor areas for studio apartments
at 450 sq.ft. with a 1.5 space per unit parking requirement.
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Mr. Diaz requested a continuance on this matter in order to further clarify the
intent of the amendment.
Chairman Wood opened the public hearing and asked for input in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to this case. There was none offered.
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Crites, to continue this �
matter to May 15, 1984. Carried unanimously 5-0. �
C. Case No. CUP 84-1 - DONALD McMILLAN for TOP OF THE DESERT LTD.,
Applicant
Approval of a conditional use permit and Negative
Declaration of Environmental Impact to allow construction
and operation of a 12,000 sq.ft. restaurant in a general
commercial zone located on the west side of Highway 111,
300 feet northwest of Painters Path.
Mr. Diaz requested a continuance to give staff an opportunity to review the plans
more fully.
Chairman Wood opened the public hearing and asked if the applicant wished to
make a presentation.
MR. FRANK URRUTIA, architect, stated that in view of the fact that staff
was recommending a continuance, he would like to defer his presentation
and comments until then.
Chairman Wood asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION
to this case. There was none offered.
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Moved by Commissioner Crites, seconded by Commissioner powns, to continue this
case to May 15, 1984. Carried unanimously 5-0.
D. Case Nos. C/Z 84-1, PP 84-3 and DA-3 - WESTERN COMMUNITY
DEVELOPERS, Applicants
Request for approval of a change of zone from PR-5 to
AHDPR-22, a precise plan of design, and development
agreement and a Negative Declaration of Environmental
Impact to allow construction of 512 apartment units on
24.15 acres located on the south side of Country Club
Drive, 1800 feet east of Monterey Avenue.
Mr. Drell gave the staff report and stated that the school impact fees and Fringe
Toed Lizard fees are to be paid by the developer. The development agreement
outlined the terms of the development. An additional condition was added to read:
"Architectural commission shall review and attempt to provide architectural relief
of linear nature of the perimeter buildings." Also, Condition No. 8 was to be
amended as follows: "Applicant is granted a 10% parking modification as
permitted by code subject to posting a $10,000 bond or letter of credit to cover
potential future conversion of two tennis courts to parking areas as determined by
the city. The bond or letter of credit shall be in effect for five years after the �
total completion of the project." &
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Letters received in opposition: Suncrest Country Club and Palm Desert Greens
Association. Staff recommended approval.
Commissioner Crites asked staff about the traffic generated from this project and
what measures would be taken for the median strip improvements. Mr. Drell
replied that since Country Club Drive is a major arterial, as development occurs
traffic will increase. The problem is restricted access to Country Club Drive and a
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solution might be to provide alternate access for the Palm Desert Greens residents.
Mr. Drell added that the developers are required to make improvements on their
frontage and as those improvements are made it should resolve some of the
problems.
Commissioner Crites asked what percentage of traffic would be generated on to
Country Club Drive from this project. Mr. Drell replied that at peak periods as
much as 5% and emphasized that Country Club Drive is a major street for the
� entire Valley.
Chairman Wood opened the public hearing and asked if the applicant wished to
make a presentation.
MR. WILLIAM DeLEEUW, 82-811 Hwy 111, (LUIS KORIGAN, attorney, was
available for any questions the commission might have) felt that this was a
compatible site. He reviewed the plans of the project and letters of
recommendation he distributed to commission. He requested that the school
fees be waived or that the condition be amended to specify that the school
fees would be for the Palm Desert High School only.
Chairman Wood asked for input in FAVOR. There was none offered.
Chairman Wood at this time took a count of the number of people to speak in
opposition and because of a large number he suggested a recess be called to give
the people an opportunity to select their spokesmen to present their issues.
A RECESS WAS CALLED AT 9:08 P.M. - THE MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:18 P.M.
Chairman Wood called for those in OPPOSITION:
BETTY SHEIDOW, 73-123 Low Mountain, Palm Desert, Secretary to Palm
Desert Greens ,tlssociation, introduced a resolution by the Palm Desert
Greens Association. She added that view obstruction, traffic impacts would
�` be part of the problems arising from this project.
EARL GRODEN, 73-450 Country Club Drive, Suncrest Country Club, stated
that Mr. Befeld (owner of Suncrest) was never notified of this public
hearing. It took 3 years to get left turn lane at Suncrest, Palm Desert
helped but he was told that signalization near Portola was impossible.
Density is too high for existing developments.
ELAINE CRAVETTS, 73-889 Gum Circle, because a comment was made that
this type of housing was needed for future employment to future
developments (i.e. Marriott Hotel) she believed that hotel employees would
not be able to afford these proposed apartments and also felt an area would
be created that would lower the standards of Palm Desert.
ARNOLD SILVERMAN, 73-771 Palm Desert Greens So., felt the issue of
traffic impact was far greater than staff believes. Future developments on
Country Club would certainly generate much more. The working people as
identified for this type of housing would not be able to afford the high rent.
ED NORTON, 38-354 Palm Desert Greens East, was afraid of the type of
people this project would invite. He believed that because of the rental
rates it suggests "blight".
PANSEY SPEWES, 39-891 Palm Desert Greens Parkway, also did not feel
�,,, COD students would be able to afford rents. On the issue of the Fringe
Toed Lizard, she felt the lizard should not have to be moved just to suit the
developer. The project will be very conducive to vandalism. She concluded
stating this project is not compatible.
ALEX SHARIF, 74-129 Zircon Circle, also addressed the traffic issue. He
believed it would necessitate more police protection.
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DAVID E. MAGNE?, 73-265 Palm Desert Greens, believed that future
development in that area was not being considered in terms of traffic and
congestion. He felt the commission also had a moral obligation to those
residents existing in the area as well as housing those in the future.
Chairman Wood asked for the applicant's REBUTTAL.
MR. DeLEEUW explained that the height limit of the project would be 25 �
feet, minimizing the view impact. Traffic, he expects some residents to be �
walking to and from some facilities in area. In regards to the possibility of "'�
blight, a $25,000 bond will be posted for maintenance. Vandalism and
security, full time security personnel will be available.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Richards noted that the last apartment building built in the city was
15 years ago. Commission is responsible to give people with entry level jobs a
place to live and this project meets those needs. He added that many people
cannot buy homes because they cannot afford to. Designations for these type of
projects is not easy but he felt the site is compatible. In addressing the traffic
problem he felt that after some streets are extended to I-10 part of the problem
would be alleviated. He also felt the high crime rate residents are experiencing is
unfortunate but this project would not affect that issue. He strongly felt that that
area has been undeveloped and believed that this project is proposed in the right
area would the first of more to come because of the need.
Chairman Wood reiterated Commissioner Richards' comments.
Commissioner Crites felt that the major issue was the traffic flow on Country Club
Drive. A number of people felt the traffic flow studies were incorrect. He asked
staff if it included all projections of traffic generated by other facilities in the
area and if access would be controlled by the medians. Mr. Drell replied that the
median would control ingress and egress for this project. The projection of traffic q'
in the future from all the proposed projects on Country Club Drive, in the opinion �
of the city engineer, would not adversely impact. Mr. Drell explained the process
in which signalization fees are collected from developers for a fund; traffic
engineering have counters at major intersections; if warranted monies are taken
out from fund for traffic lights. As developments occur it is projected that lights
will be at Portola and Country Club and Cook and Country Club.
Mr. Diaz added that studies would be conducted for traffic and from those studies
signalization where warranted would be established. The reason you cannot
signalize too early is because there is a limitation of funds and it is a vital safety
issue. In regards to landscaping and median problems on Country Club Drive, the
city is requiring that the projects on the south provide for this but the projects to
the north not within the city limits are not contributing. An assessment district
could be established.
Commissioner Richards asked staff to name the streets that would be extended to
I-10 in the future. Mr. Diaz replied that Monterey, Portola and Cook (Palm Desert)
would be extended to I-10. Other street extended east-west include Gerald Ford
and Frank Sinatra. Mr. Diaz added that an assessment district would be
established.
Commissioner powns pointed out that some of the people who spoke tonight
thought the rental rates were too high and some thought they were too low.
Commissioner Crites felt that the traffic generated from this project would be „�j
higher, but if a median is constructed, assessment district established, signalization
at Portola and extensions of Cook and Monterey would mitigate traffic impacts. In
regards to view obstruction, height limitation proposed is within city standards.
Density, there are no aesthetic problems. As far as the fear of attracting the
wrong people to rent, the city is requiring cash deposit to maintain the property,
security personnel will be on hand at all times. Fringe Toed Lizard, he felt that
the necessary habitat area is needed for them to live in and an area that will never
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be violated by human beings.
Commissioner Erwood added that he was very familiar with the crime rate and his
experience is that it is higher for the single family detached residents than
apartments. He felt that with the amenities proposed for the project it makes it
compatible to country club living.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Crites, to approve
�, the findings as recommended by staff. Carried 4-0-1 (Wood abstained).
Moved by Commssioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner powns, to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution No. 947, recommending approval of C/Z 84-1, PP
84-3, and DA-3 to the city council, subject to conditions. Carried 4-0-1 (Wood
abstained).
A RECESS WAS CALLED AT 10:08 P.M. - THE MEETING RECONVENED AT 10:18 P.M.
E. Case Nos. PP 84-5 and PMW 84-3 - TED MARTINEZ, Applicant
Request for approval of a precise plan of design, Negative
Declaration of Environmental Impact and parcel map
waiver to consolidate the site into one lot to allow
construction of a 28 unit apartment project (utilizing 25%
density bonus allowed by state law) in the R-3 (Multiple
family zone, one unit per 2500 square feet of land) located
225 feet south of the Highway 111 Frontage Road, between
Deep Canyon Road and Shadow Hills Road.
Mr. Sawa reviewed the staff report and recommended approval.
Chairman Wood opened the public hearing and asked if the applicant wished to
�, make a presentation.
MR. TED MARTINEZ, 14032 Enderle St., Tustin, was present to answer any
questions the commission might have.
Chairman Wood asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION
to this case. There being none, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Richards noted that this proposal was thoroughly discussed at their
study session and felt it was a good project.
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Richards, to approve
the findings as recommended by staff. Carried unanimously 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Crites, to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution No. 948, approving PP 84-5 and PMW 84-3, subject
to conditions. Carried unanimously 5-0.
F. Case No. PP 84-6 - STEPHANOS KAPOROS, Applicant
Request to allow construction of a duplex in a multifamily
residential zone located on the south side of Candlewood
Street, 144 feet west of Quailbrush Avenue.
�,,,,, Mr. Diaz reviewed the staff report and recommended approval.
Commissioner Richards asked what the size of the units were. Mr. Diaz replied
about 1100 to 1200 sq.ft.
Chairman Wood opened the public hearing and asked if the applicant wished to
make a presentation. The applicant was not present.
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Chairman Wood asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION
to this case. There being none, the public hearing was closed.
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Crites, to approve the
findings as recommended by staff. Carried unanimously 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Crites, to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution No. 949, approving PP 84-6, subject to conditions.
Carried unanimously 5-0. �f
VIII. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS - NONE
IX. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - NONE
X. COMMENTS
Chairman Wood asked for the status of the date grove at the corner of Deep
Canyon and Fred Waring. Mr. Diaz replied that a letter had been sent to Fern
Stout that a date palm preserve committee had been established, with S. Roy
Wilson as chairman.
Chairman Wood asked for an explanation of the procedures for a site plan review.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Crites, to adjourn
the meeting at 10:36 p.m.
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RAMON A. DIAZ, Secretary
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RALPH . WOOD, Chairman
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