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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - NOVEMBER 20, 1984
2:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
A STUDY SESSION WAS HELD PRIOR TO THE MEETING IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER
CONFERENCE ROOM, AT 1:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 2:06 p.m.
H. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Downs lead in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Chairman Buford Crites
Commissioner Bob Downs
Commissioner Jim Richards
Commissioner Wood
Members Absent: Commissioner Rick Erwood
Staff Present: Ray Diaz
Doug Phillips
Stan Sawa
Phil Drell
Al Cablay
Tonya Monroe
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Approval of the minutes of the October 30, 1984, meeting.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Richards, to approve
the October 30, 1984, minutes. Carried 4-0.
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Diaz summarized the actions of the council from the meeting of November 8,
1984.
VI. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case No. PMW 84-17 - THE LAKES COMPANY, Applicant
Request for approval of waiver requirement to allow a lot
line adjustment between two parcels within the Lakes
Country Club.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Wood, to approve the
consent calendar.
VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case Nos. C/Z 84-11, PP 84-31, and TT 20351 - WESTAR
ASSOCIATES, Applicants
Request for approval of a negative declaration of
environmental impact, change of zone from PR (6) S.P.
(planned residential, maximum three dwelling units/acre)
to PC (3) S.P. (regional commercial, scenic preservation
overlay), precise plan of design and eight lot subdivision to
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allow construction of a commercial shopping center
containing 128,100 square feet of floor area on 12.5 acres
of land bounded by the Palm Valley Storm Channel, E1
Paseo, Painters path, and Highway 111.
Mr. Diaz reviewed the main points of the staff report and recommended approval
of this project. He indicated that if the project was not approved, the general plan
should be amended.
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Commissioner Wood asked for and received clarification regarding the original
zoning.
Commissioner Richards felt that the general plan did not need amending. Mr. Diaz
replied that if the development is not acceptable, commission must state why.
Chairman Crites commented on the traffic circulation report and the negative
response. Mr. Diaz indicated that the initial response was for fast and safe traffic
through Highway 111. Mr. Cablay replied that the issues addressed E1 Paseo and
indicated that there would not be any split phasing.
Chairman Crites opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to address the
commission.
MR. CHARLES CENCIBAUGH, Ahmanson, agreed with the staff report and
indicated that a favorable reply was obtained from the architectural review
commission.
MR. GREG SIMON, gave a presentation comparing the types of shopping.
MR. PETER KOETTING, Westar, discussed design and gave a slide
presentation.
MR. DON BARKER, Linscott and Greensbaugh, spoke regarding delivery to ••
the project and traffic volume.
MR. ROGER CESSESON, Mervyn's, explained that Mervyn's was not a
discount store and explained that it ranged between J.C. Penny and May Co.
MR. PAUL BOSMAN, Mervyn's architect, spoke regarding the project.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR of the project.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in OPPOSITION to the
project.
MR. KEITH RICHARDSON, president of the Sandpiper Homeowners
Association, thanked the commission for continuing the project until this
meeting. He spoke in opposition to the project and indicated that 118
letters were submitted in opposition. He had petitions with 500 signatures
of which half were not Sandpiper residents. Commissioner Downs asked Mr.
Richardson to read the petition.
MR. ED CASHIN, 1501 Sandpiper, expressed concern regarding the exterior
of Mervyn's and gave an analygy using KMART.
MR. BOB POLLOCK, 1504 Sandpiper, spoke about the aesthetics of the
project and asked that the zoning remain residential. He felt that the large
parking lot required for this project would not be attractive.
MR. BILL TRIPLET, 612 Sandpiper, represented 29 members of unit 6. He
felt that a better site could be selected for this project, and that there
would be problems with the ingress and egress. He expressed concern for
speed of traffic already on El Paseo. He felt that Mervyn's was a good
store, but that there were too many traffic difficulties. Commissioner
Wood commented that public works did not feel the traffic problems were
insurmountable. Mr. Triplet disagreed.
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MR. WILLIAM TENNISON, Palm Desert Property Owners Association,
indicated that the board of directors were concerned about traffic
congestion at Highway Ill and suggested a long-range traffic study before
any more projects are approved.
MS. DAPHNE TRIPHON, 1713 Painters Path, felt that the project would
have a negative impact on the surrounding homeowners.
MR. CENCIBAUGH addressed the concerns. He explained that signalization
would help. Mr. Koetting felt that the right-turn only access to the project
on El Paseo would eleviate some problems and felt that the others could be
resolved.
Commissioner Downs asked what the revenue would be from the project if
developed. Mr. Koetting indicated between $10-15 million.
MR. DON STAGE, 1313 Sandpiper, indicated that the residents of Sandpiper
were against the rezoning of this property, not Mervyn's.
Chairman Crites closed the public testimony portion of the hearing and asked the
commission for comments and/or action.
Commissioner Wood indicated that while there would always be traffic problems,
the voice of the people should be heard.
Commissioner Downs explained that even though the city would be losing $300,000
in tax revenues a year, he would vote in opposition.
Chairman Crites commended the applicant on a good job done, but explained that a
project must get along with the adjacent properties. He felt that there were
enough signal lights on Highway 111 and would be opposed to any projects requiring
a signal light on Highway 111.
Chairman Crites indicated that the findings for the resolution of denial should
state traffic, aesthetics, endangerment to health, welfare, and safety as reasons
for the denial.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs, to direct
staff to prepare a resolution of denial based on the findings of the commission, to
be presented at the next meeting.
Mr. Diaz recommended amending the general plan to conform with this motion and
indicated the support of the city attorney.
A TEN MINUTE RECESS WAS CALLED AT 4:36.
Mr. Diaz indicated that staff did not want the city taken to court for not changing
the general plan to conform.
Motion by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Downs, to instruct staff
to begin preparation to change the general plan. Carried 4-0.
B. Continued Case No. PP 84-40 - HOTEL PROPERTIES, Applicant
Request for approval of a precise plan of design to allow construction of a
129 room hotel on 2.97 acres in the PC (4) S.P. zone located on the south
side of Highway 111, approximately 285 feet east of Shadow Hills Road.
Mr. Sawa reviewed the staff report and recommended approval.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant to address
the commission.
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MR. GEORGE HOLGUIN, architect, expressed agreement with the findings
of the staff.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to this project. Hearing no one, the public testimony was closed.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs, to adopt the
findings as presented by staff. Carried 4-0.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs, to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1008, approving PP 84-40, subject to
conditions.
C. Continued Case Nos. DP PP 84-37 - PAUL MADISON, Applicant
(Amended request.)
Approval of a precise plan of design and negative
declaration of environmental impact to allow development
of nine apartment units on .65 acres in the R-2 zone (with
a 25% affordable housing density bonus) located at the
southwest corner of San Pascual and Santa Rosa.
Mr. Diaz gave a presentation of the staff report and recommended approval of the
amended project.
Commissioner Richards indicated that he would like to know the amounts involved
if option b or c were used, which were reductions in fees, or cash. Mr. Diaz
explained that rental units present a problems with settling a cash fee.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant to address
the commission and asked him if he would accept option B or C.
MR. PAUL MADISON, representing Mr. Carroll, could not answer for the
applicant. He explained that Mr. Carroll was encouraged by the affordable
housing.
Commissioner Richards felt that the language suggested a barter arrangement and
indicated that these matters be investigated.
Chairman Crites suggested continuing this case until staff could present option B
and C.
MR. MADISON indicated that he would like the case settled with either
approval or denial.
A THREE MINUTE RECESS WAS CALLED AT 5:08 p.m.
Commissioner Richards indicated that he would like all options to be presented in
the future for all appropriate projects.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to this project. Hearing no one, the public testimony was closed.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Downs, to approve the
findings as presented by staff. Carried 3-0-1 (Commissioner Richards abstained.)
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Downs, to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1009, approving PP 84-37 as revised. Carried
3-0-1 (Commissioner Richards abstained.)
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D. Case Nos. PP 84-44 and PMW 84-16 - WILLIAM SPENCER,
Applicant
Request for approval of a precise plan of design, negative
declaration of environmental impact, and parcel map
waiver to consolidate the site into one lot to allow
construction of an eight unit apartment project (utilizing
25% density bonus allowed by state law) in the R-2 zone
ftow located on the north side of Santa Rosa Way, 200 feet west
of San Pascual.
Mr. Diaz reviewed the salient points of the staff report.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant to address
the commission.
MR. BILL SPENCER, Palm Desert, explained his proposal.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to this project. Hearing none, Chairman Crites closed the public
testimony.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Wood, to approve the
findings as presented by staff. Carried 3-0-1 (Commissioner Richards abstained.)
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Wood, to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1010, approving PP 84-44 and PMW 84-16.
Carried 3-0-1 (Commissioner Richards abstained.)
E. Case No. PP 84-45 - COACHELLA VALLEY TV, Applicant
Request for approval of a Negative Declaration of
Environmental Impact and a precise plan of design to allow
construction of a 20,650 square foot
industrial/administration building on 2.92 acres in the
S.I./S.P. (service industrial district with a scenic
preservation overlay) zone located on the west side of
Cook Street, approximately 650 feet north of 42nd Street.
Mr. Diaz explained the staff report and recommended approval.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant to address
the commission.
MR. JOHN OUTCAULT, architect, asked for and received clarification on
several conditions.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to this project. Hearing none, the public testimony was closed.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs, to approve
the findings as presented by staff. Carried 4-0.
tow Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs, to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1011, approving PP 84-45, subject to
conditions. Carried 4-0.
VIII. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
A. PP 84-20, FRANK GOODMAN, Applicant
Request for review of the development agreement for property located on
the north side of Candlewood, 150 feet east of Portola Avenue.
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Mr. Diaz explained that this item was returned for comment by the city
council.
Commissioner Richards felt that granting dispensation after a project had
already been developed was setting a bad precedent.
Commissioner Wood felt that since the request was so small that it was
acceptable.
Chairman Crites agreed with Commissioner Richards regarding setting a bad
precedent.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs, approving
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1012, stating that it would be a dangerous
precedent to set. Carried 3-1 (Commissioner Wood voted nay.)
B. Case No. TT 19503 - GEORGE FOX, Applicant
City Council referal of request for approval of a development agreement
and an amendment to a tentative tract map for 58 lots for 97 acres within
the HPR, D zone located west of the Palm Valley Storm Channel, north of
the Palm Desert Community Center.
Mr. Diaz explained that this agreement was referred back to the commission
for action. He also presented a proposed amendment in the form of a letter
from the applicant that would identify one lot (lot 30) in the phase II areas.
Chairman Crites expressed concern regarding the split tract map and asked
if option 4 was legitimate and if #2 and #3 would be guaranteed. Mr. Diaz
explained that the applicant was allowed 16. Chairman Crites asked if the
commission had to give the applicant 16 units. Mr. Diaz replied yes.
Chairman Crites suggested that #4 include "the applicant concentrate
development on less visible lower slopes."
Commissioner Wood indicated that phase I is on the lower slopes.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Richards, to approve the
development agreement with the understanding that additional units in the phase II
area may be precluded if applicant could not demonstrate that said units could be
developed in compliance with the city's hillside regulations.
MR. ALAN PERRIER, 3001 Tacquitz McCallum, indicated that he felt that
the city had the protection it needed. He suggested amending the
resubmitted agreement to incorporate the changes suggested, with the
proposed revisions.
Mr. Diaz felt that with the proposed revisions the city was receiving an
acceptable safe guard.
Mr. Perrier indicated that units located in phase II that were not acceptable
would be lost, not relocated in phase I.
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Richards, that the 29
units that would be permitted as part of option 4 calculations might have to be '
located in the phase I area. If they could not be developed within the hillside
regulations then the applicant would have the option of giving up said units or
placing them in the phase I area. Carried 4-0.
IX. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
NONE.
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X. COMMENTS
Chairman Crites suggested that developers should try to keep their presentations
under one hour.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Richards, to adjourn
*Now the meeting. Carried 4-0.
The meeting was adjourned at 5:50 p.m. to
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BUFOR..D CR TES, Chairman
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