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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - MARCH 5, 1985
7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED Vf/ARING DRIVE
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A STUDY SESSION WAS HELD PRIOR TO THE MEETING IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER
CONFERENCE ROOM, AT 6:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
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The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Richards lead in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Buford Crites, Chairman
Bob Downs
Richard Erwood
James Richards
Ralph Wood
Staff Members Present: Ray Diaz
Jeff Patterson
Stan Sawa
A1 Cablay
Tonya Monroe
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
„�,,, Request for approval for minutes of the February 19, 1985, meeting.
Commissioner Wood requested that the following sentence be added to the
comments under summary of council action: Commissioner Wood noted that the
general Riverside rental rates were not comparable to the cove communities rental
rates.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Wood, to approve the
February 19, 1985, minutes as amended. Carried 3-0-2 (Chairman Crites and
Commissioner Richards abstained).
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Sawa reviewed the city council actions from its meeting of February 28, 1985.
VI. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case No. CUP 18-80 - RICHARD MILLER, Applicant
Request for approval of a one year time extension for a
874 unit mobile home subdivision located at the northeast
corner of Portola Avenue and Frank Sinatra Drive.
Mr. Diaz felt that five years was sufficient time allowance.
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Chairman Crites noted that no one present wished to remove the item from the
consent calendar.
Action: '
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Richards to approve
the consent calendar denying the time extension for Case No. CUP 18-80. Carried
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VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case Nos. CUP 84-8 and C/Z 85-1 - CITY OF PALM DESERT,
Applicant
Request for approval of a change of zone from R-1 to public and a
conditional use permit to allow construction of a 15,000 square foot youth
center located at the southwest corner of Rutledge Way and Magnesia Falls �
Drive.
Mr. Diaz explained that this request had been continued prior to the merging of the
YMCA and Palm Desert Youth Center. He stated that staff was withdrawing the
application with the provision that if any other type of facility for that site is
proposed, discussion would be necessary with the Desert Sands Unified School
District.
B. Case No. DP 01-82 (Amendment #2) - CARVER MANAGEMENT CORP.,
Applicant
Request for approval of an amendment to a previously
approved development plan for a shopping center to permit
deliveries on the west side of the market on Saturdays in
addition to the Monday through Friday deliveries already
approved, for property zoned PC (2) (District Commercial
Center) and located at the southeast corner of Monterey
Avenue and Country Club Drive.
Mr. Sawa reviewed the request and indicated that staff was recommending denial
of the request of seven deliveries on Saturdays between the hours of 8:00 a.m. to
7:00 p.m. He noted that two letters from residents had been received since the
writing of the staff report. The letters indicated that the two residents would �
agree to the winter hours of 10:00 a.m. thru 6:00 p.m. with a maximum of five
deliveries during an eight hour period, and the summer hours of 9:00 a.m. thru 7:00
p.m. with a maximum of five deliveries during a ten hour period.
Commission and staff discussed the staff recommendation and staff agreed that if
the property owners and Carver Management find the terms outlined in the
submitted letter acceptable, staff recommendation could be positive and suggested
a trial period.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant to address
the commission.
MS. SANDRA YAVITZ, Carver Management, stated that she had met with
the neighbors and reached an agreement. She indicated that the hours in the
letter submitted were acceptable.
Commissioner Erwood asked Ms. Yavitz if the other affected residents were in
favor of the hours. Ms. Yavitz answered that the owner of lot 17 agreed, but that
the owner of lot 16 was opposed to the commercial development.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the case.
MR. BOB RITCHEY, 40349 Sugarbush Court, owner of lot 13, stated that the
main concern with Saturday delivery would be noise, which had been ,�,�;,
mitigated at a previous meeting. He agreed that a trial period would be
beneficial. Mr. Ritchey stated that the hours listed in his letter were
acceptable.
Commissioner Wood noted that in normal family neighborhoods Saturday is work
day around the house. Mr. Ritchey agreed. Commissioner Wood indicated that
there would be no Sunday deliveries.
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Commissioner powns indicated that a trial period of one year had already been
placed on the developer to mitigate noise.
Chairman Crites asked if Mr. Ritchey had designated specific months for summer
and winter. Mr. Ritchey had not at that time.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone else wished to speak in regard to the project.
"� Commissioner Richards asked that staff word the motion for Saturday deliveries.
Mr. Patterson noted that refrigeration trucks have changed and noise on top of the
roofs might create a problem. He felt that a condition of a one year trial period
for tenants to come back would be acceptable with the protection for using the
added wall height and landscaping.
Chairman Crites stated that the Saturday deliveries could be stopped if there were
problems. Commissioner Richards explained that is why the two issues should
remain separate. Mr. Patterson then indicated that commission should specify the
conditions and what they would apply to.
Mr. Diaz noted that the motion should be to instruct staff to prepare a resolution
for adoption approving the terms and time lines set forth in the communication
received and that a six month trial period be in effect.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Erwood, instructing
staff to prepare a resolution for approval at the March 19, 1985, meeting. Carried
5-0.
C. CASE NOS. GPA 85-1 and C/Z 85-1 - CITY OF PALM DESERT, Applicant
Request for consideration of a general plan amendment to
change the land use designation from Core Area
�` Commercial to Hillside Planned Residential and a change
of zone from C-1 (General Commercial) to HPR (Hillside
Planned Residential) and a Negative Declaration of
Environmental Impact as it pertains thereto, for 13.1
acres, located on the west side of Highway 111, 200 feet
northwest of Painters Path.
Mr. Sawa reviewed the background of the case and the staff report. He indicated
that staff was recommending that commission adopt the findings and resolution.
Commissioner Wood asked Mr. Patterson what the legal implications would be on
such an approval. Mr. Patterson replied that the planning commission action would
be an initial action which would require approval by the city council. He felt that
the commission could deal with this item without concern about impact on the
litigation.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked if anyone present wished to
speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the case.
MR. RICHARD ROMER, counsel for Mrs. Mitchell, the property owner, and
Mr. McMillan, stated that this was the one year anniversary for the start of
the project. Mr. Romer indicated that bound by what the city does
regarding the zoning and the impact on the lawsuit determined at that time,
the court ruled on the city's motion to dismiss denying that motion and
�,,,, affirming the fact that Mr. McMillan and Mrs. Mitchell have stated a cause
of action for a taking of this property in the event that it is determined that
there is no economic use of the property. He explained that the court went
on to say that even if the property were rezoned residential, if that rezoning
action is not economically feasible it can be considered a taking. He felt
that the citizens voting on Measure E were not in favor of any type of
building and asked the commission to seriously consider whether the
rezoning to residential is not just delaying the inevitable and developing
further problems by not having the proper use of this property. He indicated
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that he was not just trying to set himself up for a lawsuit that would say you
have taken the property, now pay us. He did not want to see his clients to
go through another measure and election. He stated that he was not
advocating a decision in favor of one way or another and if the commission
could come up with a plan that was economically feasible, his clients' intent
was to develop the property. He asked that the commission consider
whether this is what the citizens want. �
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or �
OPPOSITION to the case.
Mr. Frank Little, 72-949 Bel Air, stated that he felt that the citizen's in the
city who voted to pass Measure E would be opposed to any type of
development and that it would detract from Palm Desert. He stated his
opposition and felt that other people would also.
MS. KAY CRAIG, 72-992 Bel Air, indicated that she was a 12 month
resident. She stated that she was against any type of development and
indicated that possible hillside slippage could be dangerous. She did not
want to see Palm Desert become a little Hong Kong.
Chairman Crites closed the public testimony.
Commissioner Richards noted that the applicant could have initially proposed a
variety of types of developments. Mr. Diaz indicated that the applicants would
still have had to go through the public hearing process. Commissioner Richards
indicated that the hillside site was visible from many locations. Mr. Diaz noted
that residential zoning requires different findings than a restaurant.
Mr. Diaz noted that some voters might be opposed to any type of development, but
stated that it could not be presupposed. He indicated that if a group of citizens try
to put another issue on the ballot to stop any building on the hillsides, it would have `=
to be considered. `'�
Commissioner Richards asked about the possible impacts on adjacent hillside
property owners and if rezoning would keep the zonings consistent. Mr. Diaz
indicated that the zoning would have to conform to the amended hillside ordinance.
Commissioner Erwood noted that the voters told the commission what they wanted
the land to be rezoned as.
Commissioner Wood stated that he could sympathize with Mr. Romer on whether
the land would be developable or not. He felt that in this case the responsible
thing to do would be to approve the rezone and move the case up to the city
council. The attorney stated that at that time the city council could approve this.
Chairman Crites indicated that the voters did not want commercial, but that
nothing else could be presumed.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Wood, to approve the
findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Wood, to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1030, recommending to city council approval �
of GPA 85-1 and C/Z 85-1. Carried 5-0.
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D. Case No. ZOA 85-1 - CITY OF PALM DESERT, Applicant
Request for consideration of an amendment to the Palm
Desert Municipal Code (Chapter 25, Palm Desert Zoning
Ordinance) by adding a new code section which would
prohibit development or use in commercial or industrial
zones in hillside areas that are an average 10% or greater
in slope.
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Mr. Sawa reviewed the staff report and stated that the request was to add a code
section which would prevent development or use in commercial or industrial zones.
Staff recommended that the new amendment to the code be added as Section
25.56.480, Development or Use Restrictions in Commercial or Industrial zones. He
stated that this change should not effect any existing development.
Commissioner Richards noted that a large portion of the land affected was owned
� by Mr. Moller and asked if he had been notified of this possible change. Mr. Sawa
answered that Mr. Moller had not been notified. Commissioner Richards indicated
that Mr. Moller might be affected by the change because he utilizes the land for
potted plants on part of his hillside property and asked Mr. Sawa how steep the
proposed ten percent would be. Mr. Sawa stated that Highway 74 has an average
slope of six percent (6%). Commissioner Richards felt that Mr. Moller should have
been notified.
Commissioner powns suggested continuing the case pending notification.
Commissioner Wood agreed.
Chairman Crites indicated that the proposed change was a direct result of the
election. Commissioner powns felt that out of courtesy Mr. Moller should be
notified.
Chairman Crites indicated that staff could contact Mr. Moller and visit the site
and explain the uses to Mr. Moller. Mr. Patterson felt that would be acceptable.
action:
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Richards, to continue
the case to the meeting of April 2, 1985. Carried 4-0-1 (Commissioner Wood
abstained.)
`�"'` VIII. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
1. Chairman Crites felt the commission should entertain a minute motion for
an initial consultation between staff and the College of the Desert to
discuss a traffic st�dy regarding impacts from the cultural center, library,
golf academy, hotel, etc.
Commissioner Wood informed the commission that CVAG was presently
studying the traffic problems and impacts on the Coachella Valley and asked
if staff would be working the CVAG also. Chairman Crites indicated that
this would only be an initial consultation, not the actual study.
2. Commissioner Richards asked about enforcement requirements for roof top
signs.
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Richards, to
have Frank Allen give a report on status and actions of roof top signs.
Carried 5-0.
Chairman Crites asked Mr. Diaz about lighted signs in the city. Mr. Diaz
answered that lighted signs are allowed. He mentioned that there had been
some discussion regarding banning lighted signs in Palm Desert.
3. Commissioner Wood noted that at a previous city council meeting
�; remuneration for planning commissioners was discussed. He asked Mr. Diaz
what the status on that was. Mr. Diaz replied that staff was instructed to
find out what other cities were paying their planning commissioners. A
letter had been sent to the League of California Cities requesting that
information.
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IX. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
1. MR. VAN TANNER, Lot 40 owner in Sagewood, indicated that there would
be an increase in traffic through the Sagewood development with the
shopping center. He told the commission that there had been two accidents
on Monterey and Country Club because of increased traffic. He also ;
explained that he was concerned with the safety of the neighborhood �
children and homes. He asked the commission to put something in writing to '
Carver conditioning them them to provide exits or cul-de-sac Sagewood �
Drive.
Commissioner Richards asked Mr. Tanner if the Sagewood homeowners had a
meeting on gating the property. Mr. Tanner replied that the gating was
turned down in January, 1984, because of the cost. Mr. Cablay noted that if
the street is gated, it becomes a private street which must be maintained by
the homeowners.
Mr. Tanner noted that the information provided by the previous board of
directors was not complete. Mr. Cablay informed Mr. Tanner that the costs
quoted to the board were for maintenance and noted that the streets were
built on a ten year design.
Chairman Crites suggested that Mr. Cablay arrange a meeting with Carver
regarding these concerns and report back to the commission.
Commissioner Richards was concerned about homeowners coming in after
approval of a project and asking for additional conditions on the developer.
Mr. Tanner replied that the problem was not caused by the homeowners.
Commissioner Richards noted that this item was not discussed at either of
the public hearings that were held regarding the project. He informed Mr.
Tanner that he should discuss this item with the city council when the
project goes to them for approval.
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Mr. Diaz indicated that a traffic count could be taken now and when the
center opens. If there is an appreciable increase, a private street could be
considered. He noted that it could not be imposed on the developer at this
time.
Mr. Cablay stated that the count could be set up for speed also.
Mr. Tanner stated that the cooperation between Silktree and Carver had
been good.
2. MR. SANDY BAUM, 45-800 Deep Canyon Drive, stated that at the last city
council meeting he discussed the existence of a discrepancy between corner
setbacks for residential and commercial property. He indicated that he
would like to build a block wall on his property and would like the matter
studied.
3. MS. PATTY POWERS MARTIN, 73-725 El Paseo, explained the background
regarding the merging of the Family Y and the YMCA. She indicated that
the city had allocated $200,000 for the site and for the Family Y, but did
not know if that money was still available after the merging. Ms. Martin
expressed concern for the number of children who go home after school to
an empty house. She stated that from Lincoln School 60% go home to empty
houses and from Palm Desert Middle School 75%. She felt that there was a
need for child care in Palm Desert. She noted that the people who '�
complained about the possibility of having a site by Palm Desert Middle �
School did not realize that that facility would have been beneficial to
keeping children off the streets and supervised.
Mr. Diaz explained that this matter would have to be brought to the
attention of the city council for action. He indicated that there were many
alternatives for the use of that money, such as Ironwood Park.
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Commissioner Richards stated that she should be present for the next city
council study session, when the issue would be discussed.
MR. TIM JOHNSON, 43-411 Portola, concurred with Ms. Martin.
X. COMMENTS
�• NONE.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner powns, to adjourn
the meeting. Carried 5-0.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:20 p.m. �,.,
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