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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - MARCH 19, 1985
2:00 P.M. - CIVIC CEN'TER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED VNARING DRIVE
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I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting commenced at 2:03 p.m.
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II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner powns led in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Buford Crites, Chairman
Bob Downs
Richard Erwood
James Richards (arrived late)
Ralph Wood
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Ray Diaz
Dave Erwin
Steve Smith
A1 Cablay
Tonya Monroe
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration for approval of the March 5, 1985, meeting minutes.
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Action:
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Wood, to approve the
minutes as submitted. Carried 4-0. (Commissioner Richards absent at that time.)
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Diaz summarized the actions of the council from its March 14, 1985, meeting.
VI. CONSENT CALENDAR
NONE.
VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Case Nos. PP 85-2 and TT 20743 - HLM DEVELOPMENTS (Harold Maddy),
Applicant
Request for approval of a precise plan of design, tentative
tract map, and negative declaration of environmental
impact to allow 13 residential condominium units on a
40,500 square foot property in the R-3 20,000 (3) zone
located on the north side of Shadow Mountain Drive, 750
feet west of Portola Avenue.
'�"""' Mr. Smith presented a video presentation of the site and reviewed the staff report.
He indicated that an additional condition should be added to the public works
conditions on both resolutions as ��9 to say that installation of curbs and gutters at
20 feet from centerline and matching paving. Staff recommended adoption of the
proposed resolutions.
Commissioner Wood asked for the record if the proposed 26 foot height (two
stories) was within the zoning and building codes. Mr. Smith answered
affirmatively.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant to address
the commission.
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MR. HAROLD MADDY, 73-517 Haystack Road, explained that he
understood that there might be some opposition from his neighbors. He
stated that all the requirements had been met and that he had a verbal
drainage easement in exchange for landscaping for the rear neighbor. He
felt that the neighborhood would be upgraded.
Chairman Crites noted that the applicant said that the back units would be stepped
down and asked by how many feet. Mr. Maddy replied three to four feet.
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Chairman Crites asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the
proposed project.
MR. MASON ERICK, owner of the Casa Larrea Hotel, expressed concern
regarding the building height blocking the mountain view of his quests and
asked what the three to four feet would be measured from.
Mr. Cablay inquired if the engineer would address the commission regarding the
three to four steps down and the drainage of water.
MR. JERRY DENTON, 73-400 Highway 111, engineer, stated that the three
to four feet would be measured from grade and that the wall would extend
to approximately 20 feet and that he would try to drain water to the back of
the property. He indicated that the building itself would be 24 feet and that
with the grading it would be dropped two feet.
Commissioner Richards asked Mr. Smith how many feet the rear setback was. Mr.
Smith replied 15 feet and indicated that the building would be 15 feet from the
building. Commissioner Richards asked if there were some regulations about
building two story buildings next to one story buildings. Mr. Diaz replied that the
adjacent properties were R-3 and that the adjacent property was developed as one
story, but could be two story, unless the ordinance was amended to permit only one
story.
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Commissioner powns asked Mr. Erick about the height of his building. Mr. Erick
replied approximately 12 feet.
Chairman Crites noted that a part of the land to the north was vacant. Mr. Erick
concurred. Mr. Erick noted that the applicant would be saving two to four feet in
height by using his property.
MR. JOSEPH LYONS, 73-860 Shadow Mountain, explained that he was part
owner of the property to the east of the proposed development. He
explained that he was not objecting to the two story, though he felt that the
two story was not in characteristic with the neighborhood. He stated that
he was concerned about the carports on the west of the property. He
indicated that he would like to see the carports enclosed because of car
lights and noise.
Commissioner powns commented that there would be a six foot block wall that
should block car lights. Mr. Lyons indicated that if the carports were enclosed,
this would also reduce noise and did not feel that this was an unreasonable request.
Commissioner Wood indicated that he could sympathize with Mr. Lyons and felt
that it should be made a conditon of approval. Mr. Diaz concurred that this could
be done. Mr. Lyons replied that if that condition is met, he would not object to the
two story.
Mr. Maddy described the proposed design design of the carports and stated that he �►
had taken the surrounding properties into consideration. Commissioner powns
asked the applicant if there would be a problem enclosing the carport on the back
side. Mr. Maddy replied no.
MS. HELEN HUNTINGTON stated that she objected to the two story on the
right front. Mr. Smith explained that the building in the front was one
story.
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MR. CLYDE ERNST indicated that his property was across the street and
that the property had been recently flooded twice. He stated that the water
goes through his property and then down Shadow Mountain Drive.
Mr. Cablay indicated that the public works department was going to address that
issue when the grading plans are submitted. He stated that the future street
improvements would also help divert some of the water.
�,,,, Commissioner Richards noted that some of the streets in that area such as Desert
Patch would not be receiving street improvements and that those areas needed to
be protected.
MR. RON WINKLER, 73-758, also expressed concern regarding flooding.
Mr. Cablay stated that an addition could be made to condition number 3 to say that
the storm drain study be reviewed and approved prior to issuance of any permits.
Commissioner powns noted that construction of the Portola storm drain is
scheduled to begin at the end of the year.
Chairman Crites asked Mr. Cablay is staff could notify adjacent property owners
when the study is complete so that they could express any concerns. Mr. Cablay
stated that he would. Chairman Crites suggested adding that as part of the
condition.
Chairman Crites closed the public testimony and asked the commission for
comments and action.
Mr. Diaz noted that at the planning commission/city council tour the council and
commission expressed concern over the intent versus wording and suggested that
the commission might want to consider this in their deliberation.
� Commissioner Richards stated that the condition regarding the change of carports
to garages should be added. Mr. Smith stated that the condition would be added to
PP 85-2 as public works condition ��11 and that the design would go to the
architectural review commission for review.
Commissioner Wood asked the city attorney for direction as to the appropriate
action to take. Mr. Erwin indicated that the zoning should be followed and
suggested that the commission not deny the two story.
Chairman Crites reopened the public testimony.
MR. MADDY gave a brief background of the 1978 flood and the action that
was taken at that time. He stated that in order to put in garages, one end
of the carport could be closed as long as it complies with code.
Mr. Diaz indicated that it would have to be a structural bearing wall eight feet
from the side yard.
Chairman Crites asked how that complies with city requirements. Mr. Diaz
answered that the city allows it within five feet.
Commissioner Richards suggested that a condition be added to say that the Palm
Desert Homeowners Association and the architectural review commission review
and mitigate any noise and/or light concerns.
'�` Chairman Crites closed the public testimony and asked the commission if it wished
to take final action or continue the case.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner powns, adopting the
findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
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Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner powns, adopting
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1031, approving PP 85-2, subject to
conditions as amended. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner powns, adopting
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1032, approving T'T 20743, subject to
conditions as amended. Carried 5-0.
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VIII. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
A. Case No. DP 01-82 (Amendment �2) - CARVER MANAGEMENT CORP.,
Applicant
Adoption of a resolution approving an amendment to a
previously approved development plan for a shopping
center to permit deliveries on the west side of the market
on Saturdays in addition to the Monday through Friday
deliveries already approved, for property zoned PC (2)
(District Commercial Center) and located at the southeast
corner of Monterey Avenue and Country Club Drive.
Mr. Diaz explained that the resolution would enact the action of the commission
given at its prior meeting.
Commissioner Wood asked if this would go before the city council. Mr. Diaz
replied that this would only go to the city council if appealed.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Wood, to adopt
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1033, approving the amendment. Carried 5-0.
IX. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS �
NONE
X. COMMENTS
Cv�r. Diaz discussed curb requirements in relation to line of sight.
Commissioner powns asked why the San Rios awning extends into the San Luis Rey.
Mr. Diaz indicated that they had approval from the Palm Desert Homeowners
Association.
Mr. Sandy Baum, 45-800 Deep Canyon, stated that he had been traveling around the
city and noted that there were alot of infractions. He indicated that on the
property line on Country Club and that if a diagonal part not inside the property
itself. He was trying to put up a fence. He stated that Mr. McClellan came to
look at his corner and felt that there would be no problem. Mr. Baum indicated
that other properties are not 25 feet and that he did not understand why he must
change this because of the way someone is reading the code.
Chairman Crites asked Mr. Baum if he had applied for a variance. Mr. Baum
replied that it would take six to eight weeks. Commissioner Richards suggested
that Mr. Baum apply for a variance. Commissioner powns suggested that Mr.
Baum apply for a variance to avoid being liable for traffic problems. Mr. Baum
replied that this item has not been adhered to in the past.
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Chairman Crites asked Mr. Baum to report any places that are causing traffic
hazards.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Erwood, to adjourn the
meeting. Carried 5-0.
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The meeting was adjourned at 3:26 p.ru��.� t °��
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