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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - JULY 16, 1985
2:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED HARING DRIVE
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THERE WAS NO STUDY SESSION HELD PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Crites called the meeting to order at 2:00 p.m.
II . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Richards led in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Buford Crites, Chairman
Richard Erwood
Jim Richards
Bob Downs
Ralph Wood
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Staff Present: Ray Diaz
Doug Phillips
Stan Sawa
Steve Smith
Dick Folkers
Barry McClellan
Donna Gomez
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Consideration of minutes from the meeting of July 2, 1985.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Wood to approve the
minutes as written. Carried 4-0-1 (Chairman Crites abstaining) .
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Diaz summarized the council action from its meeting of July 11 , 1985.
VI . CONSENT CALENDAR
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VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case Nos. PP 85-13 and PM 20894 BIRTCHER-DUNHAM,
Applicant
Approval of a negative declaration of environmental
impact, precise plan of design and parcel map to allow six
restaurants containing 40,000 square feet of floor area
total and a three story hotel containing 120 rooms on 8.8
acres in the PC (4) (planned resort commercial ) zone
located on land bounded by Highway 111 , Fred Waring Drive
and the Palm Valley Storm Channel .
Mr. Sawa outline the background of the case and noted that the hotel
portion of the project was being withdrawn. He also indicated that staff
was recommending approval subject to added conditions.
Commissioner Wood questioned what would be done with the site where the
hotel was proposed and asked if it could be landscaped.
Mr. Diaz indicated that the site would be left vacant until another hotel
operator came forward. As for the landscaping, the applicant could
provide it on the Highway III frontage.
Chairman Crites asked if there was a guarantee that this site would be
used for the construction of a hotel .
Mr. Diaz felt that the commission could require that this site only be
used for the construction of a hotel .
Chairman Crites asked Mr. Dunham if he would be opposed to this
requirement.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant if he
wished to address the commission.
MR. CURT DUNHAM indicated that he would have no objection
to that requirement and that he would be willing to
landscape the Highway III frontage. If he were required
to landscape the complete 3 acre site it would be very
difficult to maintain it. He suggested that he landscape
10 to 15 feet near the wash.
Commissioner Richards stated that he did not like developments coming in
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in pieces at a time. He didn't think that one of the restaurants was
the resort commercial type that we would want in that area.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to
the proposed project.
MR. SANDY BAUM addressed the commission and indicated that
Mr. Dunham had presented these plans to the Board of Realtors
and that they had granted their approval .
Commissioner Wood had no problems with the idea of approving the restau-
rant site now and requiring the hotel site to be reserved for another
hotel occupant. He thought there was no reason to hold up the rest of the
project. Commissioner Wood indicated that the Year 2000 Committee has
recommended approval of the restaurant portion and that the commission
should move ahead with the project.
Commissioner Richards noted that he would like to see some type of
written recommendation and be able to talk to someone from the Year 2000
Committee. He indicated that it would be helpful for the commission to
know who serves on the committee and who is present at the time the
voting takes place.
+�+ Chairman Crites suggested that the commission move this item to the
discussion section of the meeting.
Chairman Crites closed the public testimony.
Chairman Crites indicated that he felt uncomfortable about approving a
portion of the project and saying what can or cannot be done with the
remaining portion.
Commissioner Erwood noted that some of the findings for denial would be
too many compact parking spaces, driving lanes were too narrow and the
open space is insufficient. He also indicated that the project should be
approved as a complete project.
Commissioner Downs stated that if the commission were to approve ,just the
restaurants with the vacant site to be reserved for a hotel , the
commission will still have to approve the hotel in the future.
Commissioner Richards indicated that if Mr. Dunham could secure a hotel
operator then there might be adequate findings for approval .
MR. CURT DUNHAM stated that it is difficult to get a hotel
operator to come into this project when the site is not
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approved for their use. He indicated that he was going to
appeal the planning commission decision to city council .
Mr. Diaz informed Mr. Dunham that he had 15 days to file an appeal .
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Erwood to
deny this case. Carried 3-2 (Commissioners' Downs and Wood opposed) .
B. Continued Case No. PP 85-17 - PALM DESERT TOWN CENTER
ASSOCIATES, Applicant
Request for approval of a negative declaration of environ-
mental impact and an amendment to the approved development
plan at the Palm Desert Town Center to allow construction
of an expanded department store ( 132,000 square feet
versus the previously approved 94,000 square feet) ,
including a third level (basement) .
Mr. Diaz outlined the background of the case and indicated that staff was
recommending approval .
Commissioner Richards noted that the shortage in parking had changed from
60-75 spaces to 14 spaces which was basis for denial at the last hearing.
Mr. Smith explained that the revised parking plan had been received just
before the last meeting, after the writing of the staff report.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked if the applicant
wished to address the commission.
MR. ERNIE HAHN indicated that the Robinson Store wished to
expand in order to provide their full line. He stated that for
the next period of time they are going to find some use for the
rear property. At the end of this year or early next year he
will be coming in for approval of a parking structure. Mr.
Hahn also explained that Penney's wants to increase 50,000 feet
and May Company wants to expand two levels in the future.
Commissioner Downs informed Mr. Hahn that the commission is trying to
help this parking structure get built and would like it to remain in the
thinking for the future.
Commissioner Wood suggested that the employees use the rear parking lot
to allow the more convenient parking for customers.
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Commissioner Richards thanked Mr. Hahn for attending the meeting and
presenting an outline of the proposal .
Chairman Crites asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to
the proposed project. Hearing no one the public testimony was closed.
_Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs approving
the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs adopting
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1060, approving PP 85-17, subject to
conditions. Carried 5-0
C. Case No. TT 20960 - SILVER SPUR ASSOCIATES, Applicant
Request for approval of a negative declaration of environ-
mental impact and a tentative tract map to create 20
single family lots on approximately 13. 1 acres in the PR-7
(planned residential , 20,000 square foot minimum lot size)
zones located south of Portola Avenue and west of Irontree
Drive.
�.. Mr. Sawa outlined the case and indicated that staff was recommending
approval subject to conditions.
Commissioner Wood stated that he did not see anything that would need
adjustment or alteration in the plans.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked if the applicant
wished to address the commission.
MR. LARRY SPICER, 49-200 Mariposa Drive. stated that this
request, if approved, would allow him to upgrade this site.
He noted that it is also his intent to annex this into the
property owner's association.
Commissioner Richards was concerned about the setback requirements being
violated. He stated that they are standard setbacks that should be
implemented. He also questioned if these lots were on hillside property.
MR. LARRY SPICER advised the commission that approximately
10 feet of land slopes about 5%.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to
the proposed project. Hearing no one he closed the public testimony.
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Action:
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Downs adopting the
findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Downs, adopting
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1061 , subject to conditions. Carried
5-0.
D. Case No. C/Z 85-2 H.F. AHMANSON & COMPANY, Applicant
Approval of a negative declaration of environmental impact
and a change of zone from PR-6 S.P. (planned residential ,
max. 6 du/acre, scenic preservation overlay) to PC (3)
S.P. (planned regional commercial scenic preservation
overlay) for 15.26 acres on land bounded by the Palm Valley
Storm Channel , El Paseo, Fred Waring Drive and Highway 111 .
Mr. Sawa outlined the case and indicated that staff was recommending
approval .
Chairman Crites opened the public hearing and asked if the applicant
wished to address the commission.
MR. CRAIG PAIGE indicated that he concurred with the
staff recommendations and requested that commission grant
approval .
Chairman Crites asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION
to the proposed change of zone. Hearing no one he closed the public
testimony.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Erwood adopting the
findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Downs, adopting
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1062, recommending approval of C/Z
85-2 to city council . Carried 5-0
VIII. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
Mr. Diaz asked if the commission had any comments on the planning
commission remuneration.
Commissioner Wood asked Mr. Diaz what he had found out on this item.
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Mr. Diaz indicated that some cities pay all commissions and that some pay
only planning commission, some pay a lot and some pay a little.
Commissioner Downs said that the commission should pursue receiving
remuneration.
Commissioner Richards stated that he did not wish to receive remuneration.
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Erwood to ask
the chairman to contact the city manager to discuss planning commission
remuneration. This should also be followed up with city council . Carried
3-2 (Commissioners' Downs and Richards opposed) .
IX. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
NONE
X. COMMENTS
Commissioner Richards questioned the procedures of the Year 2000 Committee
and indicated that sometimes these committee's are made up of one or two
people who make the decisions.
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Mr. Diaz stated that the committee does not have any decision making
authority. They are there to offer suggestions.
Commissioner Wood indicated that he would like to see someone from the
committee attend the planning commission meeting to present their reasons
for support or nonsupport.
Chairman Crites asked if the subcommittee's had turned in their mission
statement reports. Mr. Diaz replied that they had been turned in.
Mr. Sandy Baum, who serves on the Commercial Resort Subcommittee, indi-
cated that the committee thought that the hotel was unacceptable but they
would approve the site plan. He stated that the committee has asked the
city council and city manager for some direction as to what the respon-
sibilities of this committee are.
Commissioner Wood thought that the commission should not receive any
recommendations from any civic groups unless a written notice is addressed
directly to the commission.
Chairman Crites suggested that any group with comments should state the
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reasons for support or nonsupport in written form and that someone be
present at the commission meetings to answer questions.
Commissioner Richards indicated that it should also be stated in written
form who is on the committee and who was present at the time the vote took
place.
Chairman Crites asked Mr. Diaz if he would draft a letter, by the second
meeting in August, that would include the information a civic group must
provide if they wish to submit their suggestions to the planning
commission. Mr. Diaz concurred.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Wood to adjourn the
meeting at 4:00 p.m. Carried 5-0
"BUFORD_-CRITES, Chairman
ATTEST:
RAMON A. DIAZ, Secre
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