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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - SEPTEMBER 17, 1985
2:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
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NO STUDY SESSION WAS HELD PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Crites called the meeting to order at 2:03 p.m.
11. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Wood lead in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Buford Crites, Chairman
Bob Downs
Richard Erwood
Jim Richards
Ralph Wood
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Ray Diaz
Doug Phillips
�••� Greg Holtz
Steve Smith
Phil Joy
Tonya Monroe
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration of the minutes from September 3, 1985. Chairman
Crites requested that the words "at this time" be inserted in
paragraph 2 of page 15. Commissioner Wood requested clarification
of a sentence beginning on page 13. The sentence was amended.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Wood, approving
the September 3, 1985, minutes as amended. Carried 5-0.
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Diaz gave a brief summary of the city council actions from
September 12, 1985. Chairman Crites thanked Commissioner Wood
for attending that meeting in his place.
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V1. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case Nos. PP 84-28 and PMW 84-12 - NEUFELD INVESTMENTS,
Applicant
Request for approval of a one year time extension
for a precise plan of design and parcel map
waiver allowing construction of a 117 bed
convalescent (non-ambulatory) facility and 210
bed ( 105 units) residential care (retirement)
facility on 9.9 acres located on the north side
of Country Club Drive, 2600 feet west of Cook
Street.
B. Case No. PMW 85-17 - WESTERN COMMUNITY DEVELOPERS, Applicant
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver
combining three parcels of the 512 unit "Country
Club Villas" project as required by their
precise plan.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Wood, to
approve the consent calendar by minute motion. Carried 5-0. arl
VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case Nos. PP 85-18 and PM 20573 - CARVER COMPANIES,
Applicant
Request for approval of a 10 lot parcel map in
the PR-5, PR-10, and PC-2 zone, precise plan of
design, and negative declaration of environmental
impact to permit the development of a group of
hotels and retail commercial complex. The site
encompasses some 81 acres at the northwest corner
of Cook Street and Country Club Drive.
Mr. Diaz outlined the addendum to his original staff report and
explained that the applicant was willing to place a $1 ,000 per acre
fee for the assessment. He noted that the cost of Cook Street would
be greater then Monterey because of the bridge.
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Commissioner Richards indicated that it had been firmly established
�.. in the past that when a developer asks for changes, the commission
has the ability and right to request certain things of such as
joining an assessment district, and that all projects along Monterey
and Cook have been required to at least be acceptable to joining an
assessment district. Commissioner Richards felt some better numbers
were needed for determining costs and noted that most of the cost is
basic engineering and study costs. He indicated that a Haver Group
study was done in 1980 which could be of help. He felt that the
commission should have asked prior developments to join an assessment
district.
Commissioner Wood outlined the purpose of the North Sphere Assessment
District and North Palm Desert Improvement Association and indicated
that Mr. Carver had probably been exposed to these districts and
asked if he was a participant in the North Palm Desert Improvement
Association. Mr. Carver concurred.
Mr. Diaz noted that a portion of the map refers to the north area
and that the biggest item not included was the Interstate 10
extension, which would be of major importance to the Marriott. Mr.
Diaz felt that all developed property should be assessed and
indicated that the approximate cost was $16 million for the hook up
at the street and the north sphere would be approximately $8 million.
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Commissioner Downs stated that the reason that he had originally
brought this matter up was because of a letter received from Mr.
Richard Beck of the Desert Sands Unified School District.
Mr. Diaz stated that a letter was received and that he thought a
bridge should be installed. He noted that the applicant was willing
to pay the $81 ,000. Mr. Diaz explained that a committee was
established previously to study the Cook Street bridge. He noted
that at that time, the people involved indicated that they would not
be willing to join such an assessment district. He suggested that it
be pursued once again. He stated that a committee has been
established to study the Interstate 10 extension at Cook and that Mr.
Steinberg (property owner) has requested that the matter be brought
up again.
Commissioner Richards noted that there are also projects dealing
with industrial buildings that would benefit from the bridge over
wash and Interstate 10 extension.
Chairman Crites suggested that this be brought to the October
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meeting with planning commission and city council . Mr. Diaz coo
concurred that it should be discussed then.
Mr. Phillips felt that a statement should be included in which the
applicant agrees to participate in the assessment district for a
"reasonable amount," not tied to a specific amount.
Mr. Diaz proceeded to finish the outline of his report and suggested
that the commission might consider using a development agreement as
a specific tool for approval of the precise plan. He felt that a
subcommittee of two members each of the commission and council could
be formed to discuss this and the commission could grant approval of
the parcel map to establish the land configuration for the design of
the development of the area.
Chairman Crites felt that the type of facility proposed was one of
several items for a specific committee to discuss and also the items
Mr. Carver wishes to bring before the commission.
Commissioner Richards noted that the project utilized one of the more
unique mixed uses. He felt the precise plan and parcel map should
be considered separately and a committee established, on which he
would be willing to serve.
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Commissioner Wood asked if the staff recommendation on page 2 of the
report still stood. Mr. Diaz concurred.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked Mr. Carver to
address the condition of joining an assessment for a "reasonable
amount" and splitting the parcel map and precise plan/development
agreement.
MR. BILL CARVER stated that he was looking forward to meeting
with the commission and council to study a development
agreement. He explained that he was faced with two assessments
outlined by Commissioner Wood. He noted that the improvements
suggested by Commissioner Downs regarding improvements of Cook
at the bridge and Interstate 10 was covered by a study done by
Haver five years previously, which stated an approximate cost of
$670 per acre at that time. He explained that was how he
came up with his original figure of $1 ,000 per acre. He
indicated that he would accept "reasonable" as an additional
condition on the parcel map.
Chairman Crites explained that if the commission would use the fees
on the parcel map with the provision as to definition of terms of
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what the assessment district is deemed. Mr. Carver replied that he
felt that he should not be paying other people's bills.
Commissioner Richards felt the bridge and Interstate 10 extension
were specific concerns and that a district for the bridge and
freeway and overpass and suggested a district formed by Indian
Wells and the city, since the extension would provide the main
entrance into Indian Wells and stated that a clarification should
include all the parties from Cook to Vintage.
Chairman Crites asked if staff was willing to work with Mr. Carver
to development a statement of purpose or philosophy regarding the
assessment districts to be acceptable to both parties and condition
the temporary parcel map for approval to avoid delay. Commission,
staff, and Mr. Carver found this acceptable.
Chairman Crites stated that the meeting with Mr. Carver,
Commissioners Erwood and Richards, and the city council , would be
arranged for the earliest possible time.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed. There being no one, the public testimony
was closed.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Wood, to
recommend approval of PM 20573 and continue PP 85-18, noting that
Mr. Carver agreed to join an assessment district for "reasonable
fees" and that a committee consisting of two planning commissioners
and two city council members would be formed to prepare a development
agreement. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1081 , approving PM 20573
subject to the attached conditions.
B. Case No. PP 85-23 - TRIAD DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, Applicant
Request for approval of a negative declaration
of environmental impact and a precise plan of
design to allow construction of an industrial
complex (two story) with 62.634 square feet in
the S. I . , S.P. (service industrial with a scenic
preservation overlay) zone on 3.6 acres located
at the southwest corner of Cook Street and
Hovley Lane.
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Mr. Smith outlined the salient points of the staff report and
recommended approval . He suggested that public works condition ##12
have "and Cook Street" added. He stated that the applicant was
requesting access to Cook Street with right turn in and right turn
out. Staff felt that the access onto Cook should be deleted.
Mr. Greg Holtz explained that because of the high speed and volume of
traffic on Cook, a traffic hazard would be created by slow moving
traffic pulling onto Cook.
Commissioner Downs suggested a lane be used as a turning/acceleration
lane. Mr. Holtz replied that the lane was a parking lane only.
Commissioner Richards explained to public works staff the importance
of access onto Cook for a developer and felt some concession on the
part of public works should be made and commented on the change in
usage to office spaces. Mr. Diaz replied that office uses in the
industrial park was appropriate and would probably be the type that
would generate minor traffic by itself. Mr. Diaz suggested that
construction of median strips on Cook and the acceleration problems
could be solved by painting the curb red for no parking.
Commissioner Erwood felt that parking along Cook Street was more
hazardous than access onto Cook.
Chairman Crites suggested using the area as a deceleration lane.
Mr. Diaz felt that parking would provide a better solution.
Commissioner Richards stated that the city should work out some type
of agreement to provide access for the developer. He noted there
were many other entrances from Cook Street with no medians and
indicated that the road was very wide at that point.
Mr. Holtz stated that Mr. Folkers would agree to access onto Cook
providing the driveway entrance was moved south 50 feet and the
median constructed.
Chairman Crites indicated that the applicant should also address the
issue of joining an assessment district or districts to be
established.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant
to address the commission.
MR. CHUCK STROTHER, described the building and indicated that
he was installing more parking than required and that 25% would
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.... be covered. He stated that access to Cook was vital to the
success of his project. He noted that traffic access would be
south bound only onto Cook with other access being at Eclectic
and HovIey. He informed the commission that as part of the
fire marshal condition, curb along Cook Street in front of a
fire hydrant would be painted red and he had no problems with
moving the entrance 50 feet further south.
Commissioner Wood asked if the applicant was agreeing to the
installation of one-half landscaped median as per condition #12
under public works. Mr. Strother concurred. Commissioner Wood
asked Mr. Strother what type of offices would be occupying his
building. Mr. Strother replied that he did not know at the present
time, but was expecting offices such as contractors and bookkeeping.
Commissioner Richards stated that under discussion with Mr. Carver a
possible assessment district was mentioned. Commissioner Richards
asked if the applicant understood the format of a assessment district
and if he would be willing to join a district for a "reasonable"
assessment.
Mr. Strother indicated that he would be in favor if it was
reasonable.
Chairman Crites instructed staff to add that condition. Mr. Diaz
explained that it would state that the applicant agreed to join an
assessment district for Cook and bridge that would provide a
reasonable assessment as condition #10 under department of community
development.
Commissioner Wood clarified that if the property owner felt that the
amount was unjust, he could ask for an adjustment.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed.
MR. JIM PIERCE, Cove Management Services, explained that a Cook
Street address and access would be a great benefit.
Chairman Crites closed the public testimony. Chairman Crites
reviewed the public works condition regarding right of way curb, red
line, and movement of access 50 feet. Applicant concurred with the
conditions.
Action:
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Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Richards,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Richards,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1082, approving PP 85-23,
subject to conditions as amended. Carried 5-0.
C. Case No. PP 85-24 - I.M. EIGHT, Applicant
Request for approval of a negative declaration
of environmental impact and a precise plan of
design to allow construction of an industrial
building with 6,000 square feet in the S. I . ,
S . P . ( service industrial with a scenic
preservation overlay) zone on .33 acres located
on the south side of Mediterranean Avenue.
Mr. Diaz explained that this request and the next one should be
considered at the same time as they were twin buildings.
Mr. Smith outlined the salient points of the staff report and
recommended approval with the deletion of condition ##11 .
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant
to address the commission.
MR. BILL OCASIA, architect, explained that a sidewalk on
Mediterranean was being required that would delete five feet
of landscaping.
Chairman Crites explained that this was the policy until further
direction from the city council .
Mr. Ocasia informed the commission that his parking and driveway
would extend across four lots and indicated that more landscaping
could be added for any walking to be done. Commissioner Richards
replied that if city council so deems, sidewalks in the industrial
area would be required of new developments.
Commissioner Richards stated that he would like it stated in the
conditions that the installation of sidewalks be required unless
directed otherwise by the city council . Commission recommended that
the applicant appear before the city council if he objected to this.
Commissioner Wood felt that each case should be considered
Individually.
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""" MR. ROBERT ORR, owner, agreed to join an assessment district
for the Interstate 10 extension and bridge on Cook if it was
fair. He felt that the Vintage and others along Cook should be
included.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed. There being no one, the public testimony
was closed.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1083, approving PP 85-24,
subject to conditions as amended. Carried 5-0.
D. Case No. PP 85-25 - I .W. SIX, Applicant
Request for approval of a negative declaration
of environmental impact and a precise plan of
design to allow construction of an industrial
building with 6,000 square feet in the S. I . ,
S . P . ( service industrial with a scenic
preservation overlay) zone on .34 acres located
on the south side of Mediterranean Avenue.
As stated above, the discussion for PP 85-24 applies to this case
also.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1084, approving PP 85-24,
subject to conditions as amended. Carried 5-0.
E. Case Nos. PP 85-26 and PMW 85-16 - ROYCE CONNER, Applicant
Request for approval of an eight unit single
story apartment complex located in an R-3 (4)
zone at the northeast corner of Santa Ynez and
Alessandro.
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Mr. Joy outlined the staff report and recommended approval . ri
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant
if he wished to address the commission. The applicant indicated no.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed.
MR . DONALD TAYLOR , owner of rear property, asked for
clarification regarding the wall .
Chairman Crites suggested that the applicant talk with the developer
and called a five minute recess.
After Chairman Crites reopened discussion, Mr. Taylor indicated that
he had no objection with the project.
Chairman Crites closed the public testimony and asked for a motion.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 4-0
(Commissioner Wood was temporarily absent. )
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1085, approving PP 85-26
and PMW 85-16, subject to conditions. Carried 5-0.
F. Case No. PP 85-27 - ED MARK, Applicant
Request for approval of two 14,000 square foot
industrial buildings in a service industrial
zone located at the southeast corner of Cook
Street and St. James Place.
Mr. Joy reviewed the staff report and indicated that the applicant
had agreed to provide sidewalk on Cook. He noted that the assessment
district condition would also apply in this case and stated that an
additional condition for payment of Fringe-Toed Lizard fees would be
added.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant
to address the commission.
MR. ED MARK, owner, spoke in favor of participating in an
assessment district.
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Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed. There being no one, the public testimony
was closed.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1086, approving PP 85-27,
subject to conditions as amended. Carried 5-0.
VIII. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
A. OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION RESPONSE OR COMMENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION
CRITERIA.
Commissioner Richards felt that the letter was done well .
Commission discussed who would use the letter and when it would
be submitted.
lo„ Chairman Crites suggested the deletion of "and Palm Desert is
no exception" on line one, and the addition of "when testimony
is submitted" in paragraph 2.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Richards,
approving the letter.
B. Chairman Crites informed the commission of city council concern for
height limits along Monterey and Fred Waring creating a tunnel
effect and asked for two members of the commission to serve on a
committee to study this. Commissioners Erwood and Richards were
selected.
IX. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
MR. SANDY BAUM, 45-800 Deep Canyon Road, discussed the industrial
park and its design and future use. Mr. Baum also expressed concern
regarding landscaping along E1 Paseo and Highway 111 when the
owner does not take care of it and its in the public right of way.
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Commission indicated that this was an item that could be discussed 1
by the committee discussing heights, densities, and setbacks.
Commissioner Wood stated that he would like to appear before that
committee as a citizen. Chairman Crites suggested that at the first
meeting the committee could determine if they wished to take outside
testimony.
X. COMMENTS
Commission discussed appointing two commissioners to the committee
to discuss Mr . Carver ' s project . It was determined that
Commissioners Erwood and Richards serve on that committee also, and
suggested that the council members serving on the height committee
also serve on this committee. Chairman Crites recommended that
Commissioner Erwood serve as chairman for the Carver development
agreement committee.
Chairman Crites suggested discussing the assessment district and
Cook Street interchange and bridge at the joint meeting. Commission
concurred.
Commissioner Richards suggested that staff study all large pieces of
undeveloped land that could potentially need an assessment district
formed for future development.
Chairman Crites noted that a Rancho Mirage planning commissioner
had expressed concern for the provision of covered parking in the
valley. Chairman Crites suggested that staff come back with some
viable alternatives ( i .e. shade trees like in the Safeway parking
lot) for natural covering.
Commissioner Richards noted that the Hyatt had plans in the past that
provided natural covering and felt it would be worth hearing input
on. Chairman Crites asked if staff could prepare a report on the
issue. Staff concurred.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Richards,
directing staff to prepare a report on provision of shade trees for
covered parking. Carried 5-0.
Chairman Crites felt this could be a discussion item for the joint
commission/council meeting.
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+�•• Commissioner Richards suggested that this be accepted as part of the
beautification and enhancement of the city. Commissioner Richards
also suggested a program to relieve the problem of landscaping that
is not cared for ( i .e. Desert Falls) with the placing of a lien on
the property for the abatement of weeds. Mr. Diaz indicated a street
tree program and all its ramifications. Chairman Crites indicated
that the item of public landscaping bonding would be suggested.
Mr. Sandy Baum indicated that he would be appearing before the El
Paseo Merchants Association to discuss signs in the median aisles.
Commissioner Richards noted that nice signs could benefit visitors
in locating specific shops. Mr. Baum stated that in the past city
council has discussed this regarding size and distance.
Chairman Crites explained that this was discussed at the last joint
commission/council meeting and will be discussed as a past item at
the next meeting.
X1 . ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Richards,
adjourning the meeting. Carried 5-0.
The meeting was adjourned at 4:38 p.m.
RAMON A. DIAZ, Secretary
ATTEST:
BUFORD. CRITES, Chairman
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