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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - NOVEMBER 19, 1985
2:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
NO STUDY SESSION WAS HELD PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
1 . CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 2:06 p.m.
11 . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Wood lead in the piedge of allegiance.
III . ROLL CALL
Members Present: Buford Crites, Chairman
Richard Erwood
Jim Richards
Ralph Wood
Members Absent: Bob Downs
Staff Present: Steve Smith
%+ Doug Phillips
Joe Gaugush
Stan Sawa
Phil Drell
Tonya Monroe
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Approval of the minutes from November 5, 1985, meeting. Chairman
Crites noted on page 4, last paragraph, that roof height should he
replaced with interior floor height and on page 7, the word
development should be developer.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Erwood, seconded by Commissioner Wood, to approve
the minutes as corrected. Carried 4-0.
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr . Smith summarized the actions of the city council as they
pertained to the planning commission. Commissioner Wood noted that
the new mayor was Dick Kelly and the new mayor pro-tempore was
Phyllis Jackson.
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VI . CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case Nos. PP 09-83, 188 C, and ADJ 04-83 - DIANE STEWART,
Applicant
Request for approval of a one year time extension
to allow construction of an office building in
the C-1 zone located on the north side of Larrea
Street, 300 feet west of Prickly Pear Lane.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Wood,
approving the time extension by minute motion. Carried 4-0.
B. Case Nos. TT 16133, DP 04-80, and 204 MF - J.M. PETERS CO.,
Applicant
Request for approval of an 18 month time
extension for a tentative tract map, development
plan and preliminary design review case for 156
residential condominium units on 34 acres in the
PR-5, S.P. zone at the northeast corner of
Hovley Lane and Cook Street. irr
Commissioner Wood asked for and received clarification regarding the
reference in the staff report about the original tentative tract
approval and the school and Fringe-toed lizard fees. Mr. Drell
noted that the fees could be imposed at this time. Mr. Phillips
clarified that it would not be a condition of the tentative map,
rather a condition of the building permit.
Commissioner Richards asked if this would cause an economic hardship
on the applicant . Mr. Drell replied that the applicant has only
paid application fees at this time. Commissioner Richards expressed
concern regarding the amount of time spent by both staff and the
commission in the last five years on this project.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Wood,
approving the time extension by minute motion. Vote: 2-2 (Chairman
Crites and Commissioner Erwood voting no. )
Mr. Phillips stated that the commission could interpret the vote as
a negative action or no action.
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Commissioner Richards stated that he would like to change his vote.
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Richards, to
reconsider the original vote. Carried 4-0.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Erwood, to
deny the requested time extension.
Speaking to the motion, Commissioner Wood asked the reason for
Commissioner Richard's change of vote. Commissioner Richards stated
that because it was a 2-2 vote against the extension, the length
of time this applicant has had, and in order to proceed, he would
vote to deny the extension.
Chairman Crites stated that he felt the developer had an adequate
amount of time to start the project and he would vote to deny the
extension.
Chairman Crites noted that it was a policy to allow the applicant to
address the commission.
MR. LARRY JOHNSON, Morse Consultants, stated that the applicant
was in the process of selling the project and all plans were
ready for signature. He indicated that the applicant was
having a problem with bonds , but urged the commission to
approve the extension.
Commissioner Richards indicated that the testimony did not change
his vote.
Chairman Crites called for a vote. Motion carried 4-0.
VII . PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case Nos. CUP 85-5 and PP 85-32 - NEMMAN CENTER,
Applicant
Request for approval of a conditional use permit,
precise plan and negative declaration of
environmental impact to allow use of an existing
4 unit apartment complex and two vacant lots as
offices, church, meeting rooms, priest residence
and off-street parking located at the southwest
corner of Fred Waring Drive and San Pablo Avenue.
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Mr. Drell explained that the case was discussed by the r_ity council
on November 14, and they had indicated that while in support of the
greenbelt plan, the city was not in the position to add them at this
time. They directed staff to proceed with the plan as submitted
with the parking lot to be developed with full improvements and
built adjacent to the project. He stated that they were supportive
of the use and application in general . Staff recommended approval .
Mr. Smith noted that the prime factor for council support was that
the building would be a remodel . Commissioner Wood noted that the
conditional use permit would go to council for review.
Mr. Drell explained that the city council requested that review of
the 24 foot high bell tower be done by them when the case moves up.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked if anyone
wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposed.
MS. GLORIA KELLY, 48-900 Pizano, felt that the use would
supply a need in the valley and urged approval .
MR. MATT MONICA, 74-800 Peppergrass, expressed support of the
facility and felt it would be beneficial to the community. He
stated that it would service the entire area. Commissioner
Wood asked if this Newman Club would be separate from the club
at the College of the Desert. Mr. Monica replied that they
would be a separate entity but it would be a cooperative
effort.
MR. PHIL. MOORE, 74-370 Old Prospector (President of Rotary) ,
spoke as a long term resident of the valley in support of
the proposed facility.
MR. CHRIS VALENZUELA, College of the Desert resident, stated
that the facility was needed and would benefit the community.
FATHER ED REIDY, 43-925 Monterey, expressed approval of the
previous testimony and felt the facility would focus on the
physical , spiritual , and social needs of the community.
Commissioner Wood asked if the Newman Center would be under the
auspices of the college administration. Father Reidy replied that
it would not. Commissioner Wood asked if the Newman Center would
house a visiting priest . Father Reidy replied affirmatively.
Commissioner Wood asked about the center's involvement in treating
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�r.. persons dependent on drugs or alcohol . Father Reidy replied that if
someone came to them for help, they would not be turned away.
Commissioner Wood also asked who would be responsible for the
facility. Father Reidy replied the Bishop of San Bernardino.
Commissioner Wood indicated that his concern was for the design of
the building. Chairman Crites noted that the commission could direct
.any appropriate modifications to the architectural commission.
Commissioner Wood asked if the building met all the city
requirements.
Chairman Crites closed the public testimony.
Commissioner Richards felt that the city council cleared the dilemma
on how to begin implementation on the newly designated area and had
indicated their desire to support this project.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Wood.
adopting the findings as presented by staff. Carried 3-0- 1
(Commissioner Erwood abstained due to absence from initial discussion
at previous meeting. )
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Wood.
Now adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1102, approving CLIP 85-5
and PP 85-32 subject to conditions. Carried 3-0- 1 (Commissioner
Erwood abstained due to absence from initial discussion at previous
meeting. )
B. Continued Case Nos. GPA 85-4 AND C/Z 85-3 - B I RTCHER/DUNHAM,
Applicant
Request for approval of a general plan land use
element change from medium density residential
(5-7 du/acre) to core area commercial and a
change of zone from PR-6 (planned residential ,
six dwelling units per acre) to C-1 (general
commercial ) for approximately 10.3 acres and a
negative declaration of environmental impact for
land bounded by El Paseo, Shadow Mountain Drive,
San Pablo Avenue, and Larkspur Lane.
Mr. Sawa outlined the changes that had been made to the resolution
and drafted a development agreement as directed by the commission at
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its last meeting. Mr. Sawa recommended that the development
agreement be recorded, if approved.
Commissioner Richards asked counsel if he felt comfortable with the
development agreement and asked if on page 5 section 2 regarding
no retail and office, if it accomplished what the commission wanted -
allowing no buildings to be built. Mr. Phillips recommended that on
page 5 under #2 the words "or commercial improvement" be inserted
after no retail , office, restaurant or other commercial use, and
also that the site may be used for other permitted and conditional
uses. Commission agreed. Developer signaled acquiescence.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony.
MR. CURT DUNHAM, applicant, requested approval and the amendment
to the general plan and stated that he had no objections to the
change.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed.
MR. BOB SNYDER, 73-402 Shadow Mountain Drive, thanked the
commission for recognizing the need for a zone split. He asked
that if the commission were to allow the parking lot with the
970 parking spaces, that the parking lot be undergrounded and a
park facility be built on top for the benefit of the community.
He felt that with 970 parking spaces and as many vehicular
trips, Sunlodge and Larkspur would be significantly impacted.
He requested that if the project were approved, the commission
consider his suggestion.
Commissioner Richards stated that the proper time for this type of
suggestion would be when a precise plan was before the commission
for review.
Chairman Crites stated that since the issue of traffic had not been
addressed and should be, he could not vote in favor of the project.
Commissioner Wood noted that the traffic is already here and should
have been considered years ago, but felt that the applicant had a
right to develop his property and felt that the service the facility
would provide for the community should be considered.
Commissioner Erwood commented that since it seemed like a even split
on the vote, a continuance should be considered. Commissioner Wood
replied that he had only been speaking to the issue of a traffic
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+ur survey. Commissioner Richards felt it inappropriate to discuss a
potential vote at this time. Commissioner Richards spoke to Mr.
Snyder's comments regarding a park, and felt a lot of time and money
had been spent on studies. He noted that the citizens most impacted
by the project (merchants) were in favor and felt the traffic was
not going to get better. Chairman Crites stated that without
adequate information and the impact on the two lane traffic on El
Paseo, he could not vote in favor of the project.
Commissioner Richards asked public works if it would be feasible to
have as an alternate access north/south connecting streets from
Highway III widened. Mr. Gaugush replied that it would require
extensive relocation. Commissioner Richards asked about the
possibility of having San Pablo one way to Highway III and Larkspur
one way to El Paseo. Mr. Gaugush replied that it would be feasible.
Chairman Crites felt that the area was especially critical for one
path with no right turn. Commissioner Richards stated that his
concern regarding traffic was the safety aspect and felt that safety
was not an issue and volume would not create more accidents. He
noted that in some areas the turn lanes were not long enough or deep
enough.
Commissioner Wood stated he would like to read his opinion as to why
a traffic_ analysis was not needed for the record.
Mr. Dunham indicated that there would be traffic lights on either
intersection on El Paseo and felt the project would allow vehicles a
straight access from the project to Highway III and back. He also
felt the project would solidify the El Paseo business district and
indicated that traffic was something that had to be lived with.
Chairman Crites closed the public testimony.
Commissioner Wood commented that if the commission were to recommend
a traffic study, he would read his comments for the record at that
time.
Commissioner Richards commented that he felt the change of zone
would not negatively impart the area more. He also felt the public
testimony overwhelmingly in favor of the project should be
considered.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Richards,
adopting the findings as presented by staff. Vote: 2-2 (Chairman
Crites and Commissioner Frwood voting no. )
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The city counsel indicated that this could be a denial or a no
action. Mr . Phillips recommended that the commission consider
it a no action and continue the case to the next meeting when all
five commissioners would be present.
Chairman Crites reopened the public hearing.
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
continuing Case Nos. GPA 85-4 and C/Z 85-3 to December 3, 1985.
Carried 4-0.
C. Case Nos. PP 85-35 and PMW 85-19 - CRYSTAL, LTD., Applicant
Request for approval of a 35,000 square foot
office/ industrial complex located at the
southwest corner of Beacon Hill and Hovley Lane
in a service industrial zone.
Mr. Sawa reviewed the request and recommended that a condition be
added that the parking area shall be screened by a 42" high masonry
wall and/or mounding along Beacon Hill to the satisfaction of the
architectural commission. Staff recommended approval .
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked if anyone
wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposed. There being
no one, the public hearing was closed.
The applicant signaled acquiescence to the additional condition.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Erwood, adopting
the findings as presented by staff. Carried 4-0.
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Erwood, adopting
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1103, approving PP 85-35 and PMW
85-19, subject to conditions as amended. Carried 4-0.
D. Case No. PP 85-37 - DIANE STEWART, Applicant
Request for approval of a negative declaration
of environmental impact and precise plan of
design to allow construction of a 10,750 square
foot commercial building on .6 acres in the C-1
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vamp zone (general commercial district) located on
the south side of El Paseo, approximately 225
feet west of Sage Lane.
Mr. Sawa outlined the request and background of the proposed. He
explained that a problem had come up which the applicant would
address.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant
to address the commission.
MS. DIANE STEWART, applicant, stated that she accepted the
conditions as presented by staff. She explained that after
talking to Mr. Foxx regarding the easement, he indicated that
he would grant the easement under the condition that she adopt
his retail philosophy and landscaping. She stated that her
plans were already completed and requested a continuance while
this matter was being re-examined.
Commissioner Richards inquired as to staff's feelings regarding the
adjacent easement. Staff indicated that the applicant had no access
without the easement. Mr. Smith explained that as a condition of
the conditional use permit for the Foxx property, Mr. Foxx was
required to participate in a mutual easement.
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Ms. Stewart stated that the easement was drafted and submitted to
the city clerk but never filed. Mr. Phillips explained the
legalities involved. Ms. Stewart indicated that she had been told
that because it was a conditional use permit condition, it was an
on-going condition and she felt the city was in a position to help.
Mr. Phi 1 1 i ps stated that the city can enforce the conditions of the
conditional use permit.
Chairman Crites suggested a 30 day continuance to allow the matter
to be settled with or without city involvement.
Commissioner Erwood suggested that staff determine whether the
conditions of the conditional use permit were in compliance with city
regulations. Chairman Crites stated that if the commission were
comfortable with that, it would be considered a part of the motion.
Mr. Phillips felt that it should be determined whether or not Mr.
Foxx was informed by anyone about the easement to the east.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to this case.
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Commissioner Richards suggested to the applicant that since Mr. Foxx
had tried many ideas for his project and has been successful , she
might wish to incorporate some of Mr. Foxx's suggestions.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
continuing PP 85-37 to December 17, 1985. Carried 4-0.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
directing staff to review any and all conditional use permits
granted to the Foxx development to determine compliance with all
conditions of those permits. Carried 4-0.
VIII . MISCELLANEOUS
A. Determination of use regarding dog and cat hospital .
Mr. Smith explained that he had received a request to allow
veterinarian clinics in the C-1 zone, using the clinic across from
Carl 's Jr. as an example.
Staff indicated that a minute motion was needed indicating that a
veterinarian clinic could be a possible permitted use under a
conditional use permit.
Mr . Phillips stated that the commission would have to adopt an
amendment stating that the planning commission may, by resolution,
permit other uses which are similar and no more objectionable than
those enumerated in this section (Ord. 96 Sl (part) , 1975: Exhibit A
525.20-2) .
Commission determined that an ordinance amendment could be processed
concurrent with any application that might be received.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
directing staff to initiate the appropriate resolutions as stated.
Carried 4-0.
B. Determination of use to allow Beerhunter to locate in the
Carver Center located on the corner of Monterey and Country
Club Drive.
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Mr. Smith explained that the property is being developed under an
approved precise plan which was approved following public hearings.
He indicated that the planning commission under code sections
indicated that uses in that zone were to be approved through the
precise plan or conditional use permit process. He stated that
staff had received an inquiry as to whether the Beerhunter could
locate in the center without an additional public hearing and
conditional use permit approval .
It was the position of the commission that the entrance to the
Beerhunter would be sufficiently distant from any potential impacts
on the residential area that it should not cause a problem. It was
noted by Commissioner Richards that the entrance of the establishment
would be from the north side and that during overall public
testimony, extensive measures were undertaken and are being
implemented to buffer the rear of the commercial center from the
residential area to the south.
It was the consensus of commission that no further conditional use
permit review (public hearing) was needed.
IX. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
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X. COMMENTS
Chairman Crites reminded the commission of the joint meeting between
the planning commission and the city council on Thursday, November
21 , at 2:00 p.m. in the administration conference room.
XI . ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Wood, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
adjourning the meeting. The meeting was adjourned at 4:0 M.
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