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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - SEPTEMBER 2, 1986
7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
STUDY SESSION WAS HELD PRIOR TO THE MEETING BEGINNING AT 5:00 IN THE COUNCIL
CHAMBER CONFERENCE ROOM.
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Crites called the meeting to order at 7:06 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Whitlock led in the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
Members Present: Buford Crites, Chairman
Bob Downs
Rick Erwood
Jim Richards
Carol Whitlock
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Ramon Diaz
Dave Erwin
Greg Holtz
Phil Drell
Steve Smith
Phil Joy
Catherine Sass
Tonya Monroe
Chairman Crites introduced Carol Whitlock, the new planning commissioner, and
congratulated Commissioner Downs for his reappointment for another term.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration for approval of August 19, 1986 minutes.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Richards,
approving the minutes as submitted. Carried 3-0-2 (Commissioners
Erwood and Whitlock Abstained.)
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V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Diaz indicated that the only action council considered that
pertained to planning commission on August 28 was the appointment and
reappointment of the planning commissioners.
VI. CONSENT CALENDAR
NONE.
VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case No. CUP 86-1 - ATLANTIC RICHFIELD, Applicant
Request for approval of a conditional use permit
to allow replacement of existing one island gas
station at the southwest corner of Highway 111
and Portola Avenue with a two island station and
2000 sq. ft. convenience store.
Mr. Diaz explained that a super block concept would be implemented
for the project and recommended that a continuance be granted.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony.
MR. FRANK WELLS stated that he had returned with a redesign and
that within the last two weeks he had redesigned the project
with increased landscaping and berming. He indicated that
architectural approval had been obtained as to building
materials. He informed commission that the super block concept
was an "eleventh hour change" which had been discussed at the
very first, but deemed unworkable. He stated that his attorney
felt there was no legal to bind the project to make them put in
a super block. He requested approval of the plans as submitted,
but stated that if the case were continued they would try to
redesign the project.
Commissioner Richards informed the applicant that the super block
would be to his benefit and indicated that he primarily sent the
project back to the architectural commission, but didn't see any
village atmosphere incorporated. He felt that with the super block
concept, the project would be improved.
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.. Chairman Crites indicated that two members of the commission were
not in attendance at the previous hearing and would like the
opportunity to study the data and take part in the decision making
process and would recommend a continuance for this reason.
Commissioner Whitlock concurred.
Commissioner Downs requested input from public works. Mr. Holtz
stated that staff had met with Arco to discuss the super block with
Joe Gaugush on August 27 to incorporate portions of the super block
concept per direction of staff and council members.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed. There being no one, be asked for a
motion of continuance.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner Richards,
continuing CUP 86-1 to September 16, 1986. Carried 5-0.
B. Continued Case No. DA 86-6/Parcel Map - CHARTER COMMUNITIES,
Applicant
Request for approval of a Development Agreement
and Parcel Map for 239 unit congregate
care/skilled nursing facility.
Mr. Diaz recommended a continuance of two weeks of the entire issue
of senior overlay and senior housing, as well as congregate care, to
allow discussion by the commission.
Chairman Crites stated that this would allow staff to find out if
some regulations and methods of analyzing densities could be decided.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony.
MR. ROBERT BARTON, Charter Communities, commended the planning
commission in being perceptive in recognizing that there are
several types of senior housing and congregate care. He
indicated that their concern was that commission had approved
the project in concept, design, and site use. He also expressed
concern to get a final development agreement. He indicated that
the only disagreement is whether or not senior housing units
could be required, which involved 45 or 60 units.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed.
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MR. NORM REYNOLDS, Charter Communities, extended the offer to
be available anytime to commission members, staff, or council
to continue discussions. He indicated they would continue to
pursue negotiations with the commission and council to complete
the concerns in a timely fashion.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
directing staff to prepare a revised final draft agreement for the
meeting of September 16, 1986. Carried 5-0.
Chairman Crites suspended the order of items on the agenda.
E. Case No. PP 86-34 and CUP 86-4 - RICHARD SELENE, Applicant
Request for approval of a Precise Plan of Design
and Conditional Use Permit for a 7-11 food store
on the northwest corner of Highway 111 and Park
View Drive.
Mr. Diaz asked for a continuance to September 16 due to a problem
with the legal noticing.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked if anyone
present wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposed.
There being no one, he asked for a motion of continuance.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Richards,
continuing PP 86-34 and CUP 86-4 to September 16, 1986. Carried 5-0.
F. Case No. PM 21915 - HAROLD HOUSLEY, Applicant
Request for approval of the subdivision of
proposed 4380 square foot of office space
previously approved on the west side of Monterey
Avenue, 500 feet north of the Town Center.
Mr. Joy outlined the salient points of the staff report and
recommended approval .
Commissioner Richards asked about the background of the case. Mr.
Diaz replied that it was previously approved as office/condominiums.
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to" Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked if the
applicant wished to address the commission.
MR. HAROLD HOUSLEY, applicant/developer, indicated that he had
nothing further to add and asked for approval to allow
subdivision.
Commissioner Richards questioned this use from a market standpoint.
Mr. Housley replied that some people would like a small office space
and approval would allow smaller project the ownership benefits that
larger projects receive. He stated that approval would allow him the
ability offer this option.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed. There being no one, the public testimony
was closed.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
adopting the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1174, approving PM 21915,
subject to conditions. Carried 5-0.
J. Case No. C/Z 86-5 - PALM DESERT PARTNERS, Applicant
Request for approval of a cancellation of DA
86-4 and Ordinance No. 415 to revert zoning from
AHDPR-18 to Service Industrial (S. i . ) on a
triangular shaped parcel directly south of the
intersection of Hovley Lane and Beacon Hill ,
bound by 42nd Avenue on the south.
Mr. Diaz outlined the request and recommended approval .
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked if the
applicant wished to address the commission.
MR. FRANK CANNON, applicant, stated that he had nothing to say.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed. There being no one, the public testimony
was closed. Chairman Crites asked for a motion.
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Action:
Moved by Commissioner Erwood, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Erwood, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1175, approving C/Z
86-5. Carried 5-0.
K. Case No. TT 21698 - ASL CONSULTING ENGINEERS, Applicant
Request for approval of a subdivision of 19.25
acres for 34 residential lots.
Ms. Sass outlined the salient points of the staff report and
recommended approval .
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked if the
applicant wished to address the commission. Applicant declined.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed. There being no one, the public testimony
was closed.
Action: `
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Richards,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1176, approving TT 21698,
subject to conditions. Carried 5-0.
M. Case No. PP 86-41 - GEORGE CASWELL, Applicant
Request for approval of an 8900 square foot
industrial warehouse facility located in a
Service Industrial zone on the west side of
Corporate Way, 403 feet south of Hovley Lane.
Mr. Smith outlined the salient points of the staff report and
recommended approval .
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked if the
applicant wished to address the commission. The applicant declined.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
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OPPOSITION to the proposed. There being no one, the public testimony
was closed.
Commissioner Downs asked that the deletion of the two dead-end
streets mentioned in the staff report be added as a condition of
approval . Mr. Smith indicated that it was being discussed, but might
not be possible. He also explained that the 42" high wall on Mr.
Solomon's property has not been built, staff wished to avoid having
two dead-ends and would continue discussions.
Commissioner Erwood noted that since the Solomon project has been
approved the wall could be built tomorrow. Commissioner Downs
stated the commission should direct staff to continue discussion on
this matter.
Chairman Crites indicated that staff should do what it could to
eliminate these dead-ends. Mr. Diaz stated that staff wanted to
insure that commission would not have any objections before
proceeding.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
�.. Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1177, approving PP 86-41,
subject to conditions as amended. Carried 5-0.
C. Case No. (Development Agreement) - J" TURNER, Applicant
Request for approval of a development agreement
relating to terms and conditions of rent of a 60
unit apartment project of which 12 of the units
will have affordable rents, located on the north
side of Magnesia Falls Drive at Rutledge.
Mr. Joy reviewed the background of the case and indicated that the
applicant had concerns regarding 1) project having to continue the
eight foot meandering sidewalk along Magnesia Falls Drive (public
works condition #11 ) . Mr. Joy explained that Magnesia Falls is
a designated route for the bikeway and the city is trying to get as
much sidewalk along this route completed as possible. 2) landscaping
along existing bikeway (community development condition #8) - Mr.
Joy indicated that staff's intent was not to have a high maintenance
area but a limited amount of landscaping. He indicated that the
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Coachella Valley Water District found this feasible. Staff
recommended approval of the development agreement by adoption of the
proposed resolution.
Commissioner Richards asked about the cost to build an eight foot
sidewalk. Commissioner Downs noted that it would be eight feet
compared to five feet on the other side. Mr. Diaz stated that the
sidewalk on applicant's property and landscaping only to Deep Canyon
would be involved. Mr. Holtz replied that the cost difference
between eight feet and five feet would be approximately $7,500.
Commissioner Richards also questioned the cost of landscaping.
Chairman Crites indicated that he was being persuaded toward the
project because of the condition that would allow a portion of the
wash that would look "junky" forever to be improved. Chairman
Crites asked staff for a definition of a limited amount of
landscaping. Mr. Joy replied that the landscaping would be
comparable to that on Fred Waring Drive. Chairman Crites felt that
the landscaping on the west side of Monterey was acceptable.
Commissioner Richards asked who would maintain the landscaping. Mr.
Diaz replied the public works department. Chairman Crites noted the
developer would install the landscaping and the city would maintain
it. Chairman Crites asked if the irrigation system would be
installed by the developer. Mr. Joy replied yes and indicated that two
the developer would maintain that portion of the bikeway.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant
to address the commission.
MR. SANDY BAUM, 45-800 Deep Canyon Drive - planning consultant,
felt that the city was asking the developer to improve and
maintain someone eises property. He indicated that curb and
gutter was originally discussed. He noted that the bikepath
tapers off into the street and the sidewalk in front of
Wedgewood Glen is only five feet wide. He felt there might be
a problem with people going into a narrower sidewalk.
After further discussion Chairman Crites recommended tapering the
eight foot sidewalk to five feet to eliminate an abrupt change. Mr.
Joy stated this could be done and would be added as condition #11
under public works.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed.
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MR. ED MALOTTE, 385 Via La Sorno-Wedgewood Glen, expressed
concern for the wall that exists between the two properties
because It Is under s i x feet and on the east side the gate Is
open by the swimming pool . He was concerned with people coming
over the wall . He recommended that a straight wall along the
property be installed. He asked about obtaining a copy of the
conditions. Mr. Diaz informed him that since the entire
project requires a change of zone it will be brought before the
city council and he could obtain a copy before then.
Commissioner Erwood questioned Mr. Malotte on the wall of his
development. Mr. Malotte felt that the existing wall height
should be raised by the developer to relieve any possibility of
a nuisance. Commissioner Richards informed Mr. Malotte that
six feet is the standard height and asked if that would be
acceptable. Mr. Malotte replied yes and asked that it extend to
the wash.
Mr. Diaz stated that it should be make clear that the six foot
wall would be measured from finished grade on the applicant's west
side. Chairman Crites noted that it could appear to be seven feet
from the other side. Mr. Malotte found this acceptable.
MR. BAUM stated that he felt he could keep people from going
over the wall by using sloping and grading and indicated that
they would be six to seven feet in height by the time it is
finished.
Chairman Crites closed the public testimony.
After further discussion, Mr. Diaz repeated that the condition would
be that the applicant would agree upon a six foot wall measured from
applicant's property finished grade and that the wall be made solid
where the gate opening exists. Commission concurred.
Commissioner Erwood recommended that the word "maintain" be
eliminated from community development condition #8. Commissioner
Richards concurred.
Mr. Diaz stated that if the city chose not to have landscaping
installed because it did not wish to maintain it at this time,
funding could be asked for to a 1 1 ow it to be done at a later date.
Chairman Crites noted that the city council could strike that
condition if there was a problem.
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Action: two
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1178, recommending to
city council approval of PP 86-31, C/Z 86-4, and the associated
development agreement/conditions as amended. Carried 5-0.
CHAIRMAN CRITES CALLED A 10 MINUTE RECESS AT 8:20 P.M.
D. Case Mos. PP 86-43 and C/Z 86-6 - DALE AND PAMELA SMALLWOOD,
Applicants
Request for approval of a Negative Declaration
of Environmental Impact, preannexation zoning of
PR-7 S.O. , Tentative Parcel Map and Precise Plan
for a 344 unit senior housing project to be
located on 23 acres on the north side of Fred
Waring Drive, 1400 feet east of Cook Street.
Mr. Diaz stated that public hearing items #D & #H should ultimately
be continued based on discussions during study session on senior
overlay and type of housing. Chairman Crites requested a detailed
explanation of the study session discussion. Commission concurred.
Mr. Drell indicated that discussions involved defining services
provided by developments that provide services other than just
housing. He noted that projects are becoming more institutional
in nature and how senior overlay applies to institutional uses
should be determined. He stated that item #D was conventional senior
housing. He indicated that the applicant is making services
available if requested, and no longer objects to the affordable
housing within the development agreement.
Commissioner Richards stated that the concern was the location of
the proposed development. He indicated there were three basic types
of congregate care which have to be addressed as they relate to the
senior overlay. He felt the commission and staff needed to come up
with a better concept, which would only take a little time, or
suggested the possibility of getting a consultant. He indicated
that these decisions wou i d benefit both the city and the developer.
Commissioner Downs stated that the CC&R's could address some this and
agreed with comments by Commissioner Richards.
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Chairman Crites noted that Charter Communities was different because
it was offering nursing facilities. He indicated that this case was
offering straight senior citizen housing and is willing to include
the 25% affordable housing, if the property discussed seems
appropriate for senior housing, he would be willing to study this.
He felt that senior housing versus skilled nursing facilities may
not apply to this project.
Commissioner Richards indicated that Charter Communities has had an
agreement with the city and clarified that it was not strictly
apartments. He felt that one problem was that 60% of the facility
would provide services that don't have anything to do with housing.
He felt staff should come up with a better plan that would not
involve a development agreement.
Chairman Crites noted that all that was being provided was senior
housing, but indicated that more services could be provided at the
option of the tenants. Commissioner Richards stated that a change
of zone/pre-annexation was being requested, not just the senior
housing.
Mr. Drell outlined the salient points of the staff report and
stated that 15 units to the acre or a total of 344 units was being
.. requested. He felt that there would not be a significant traffic
Impact. He noted that the applicant had agreed to the conditions in
the development agreement and indicated that the development
agreement applies to the affordable units. Staff recommended
approval .
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant
to address the commission.
MRS. PAM SMALLWOOD, applicant, reiterated that the project was
not in the senior overlay zone. She indicated that the project
had been adjusted downwards and would have less of an impact
than the present zoning. She stated that the impact would be
comparable to four or five single family units per acre, which
concurs with staff's figures. She indicated that she had met
with all city council members and felt they would support
alternative "A." After describing the amenities provided, Mrs.
Smallwood indicated the architect and engineer were available
for questioning.
Commissioner -Erwood noted that staff had recommended an addition of
two swimming pools and one tennis court. Mrs. Smallwood stated that
she would comply with that recommendation to provide two swimming
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pools and one tennis court. She requested that the tennis court be %00
installed as part of phase II. Commissioner Richards asked if full
kitchens and amenities would be provided. Mrs. Smallwood answered
yes. Mr. Diaz stated it would be similar to what other country
clubs provide.
Commissioner Richards asked for and received clarification on the
amount of rent for the affordable units and the calculation process.
Mrs. Smallwood stated that they would charge approximately 1 .50 to
1 .75 per square foot, equaling $600-$750 per month.
Chairman Crites asked about a provision for guest parking. Mrs.
Smallwood indicated that spaces were being provided.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed.
MR. VAN CADENHEAD offered testimony stating that senior housing
was needed in the city. He expressed disappointment because
the city has been "dragging its feet." He felt that the need
for senior housing in the Coachella Valley was being ignored.
MR. PAUL KANEKO, Indian Wells Planning Director, reiterated the
concerns of Indian Wells as addressed in his letter of May 8,
1986. He felt that the reduction from 27 units to 15 units had
not mitigated the concerns expressed in that letter. He also
felt the project was still too dense and would create traffic
problems.
In response to questions from commission, Mr. Kaneko indicated that
Indian Wells did not provide senior housing in the city and had not
attempted to provide same. Commissioner Richards also asked that
the city be notified of the convention center being planned for
Indian Wells. Mr. Kaneko stated that the matter would be addressed
in an environmental impact report to be sent to the city for comment
in November or December.
Commissioner Whitlock asked if there was any concern expressed by
Desert Horizons. Mr. Kaneko replied that because of the shortness of
notice, he did not have an opportunity to notify all parties
concerned.
MR. JIM HALE, Desert Horizons, stated that he had attended
three or four prior meetings and indicated there were concerns
regarding density and traffic. He indicated that he was not
opposed to senior housing on that site. He felt there were
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tow still questions that needed answers. He stated that the
Smallwood attorney called to have a meeting with Desert
Horizons, but cancelled. He felt that in the initial project
hearings there was a spirit of cooperation that could be felt
between Indian Wells and Palm Desert that seemed to have eroded.
He indicated that the citizens of Indian Wells would also like
to be informed about their new proposals. Mrs. Smallwood
addressed the concerns of Mr. Hale outlining the changes that
had been made to the design of the project. She stated again
that the impacts would be less than the single family zoning.
Chairman Crites asked about Mrs. Smallwood's attempts to meet
with Desert Horizons. Mrs. Smallwood answered that she
contacted the secretary and outlined the changes; she also told
them to call with any questions.
Chairman Crites closed the public testimony.
Commissioner Whitlock stated that based on the testimony and
willingness of the developer to provide senior housing, she did not
see a problem with the project being approved with Alternate A. She
indicated that they would be providing affordable housing and
expressed agreement with the project.
Commissioner Downs stated that he was in favor of the project based
�..r on the revisions that had been made.
Commissioner Erwood indicated that the applicant was willing to
cooperate with the city's intent and was willing to supply an
additional two pools and tennis court. He stated that he had no
objections to the project.
Commissioner Richards felt there was a substantial reduction in the
number of units and he had no objections because only housing was
being provided with amenities typical to country club living.
Chairman Crites felt that the addition of the two pools and one
tennis court should be reviewed by the architectural commission
added as a condition of approval . Commission and applicant
concurred. He also felt that the applicant had given residents of
Desert Horizons ample opportunity for discussion.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
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Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1179, approving
(alternate A, 15 units to the acre/344 units) , subject to the
conditions as amended. Carried 5-0.
G. Case No. VAR 86-5 - FLYING BUTTRESS, Applicant
Request for approval of a variance to section
25. 16.050 (development standards for R-1 lots)
specifically to reduce the required lot area
from 8000 square feet to 6420 square feet and to
reduce the required lot width from a minimum 70
feet to a minimum 60 feet in order to facilitate
a future lot split of the existing 12840 square
foot lot located at the southwest corner of El
Cortez Way and Santa Ynez Avenue.
Mr. Smith recommended approval of the resolution to deny VAR 86-5 as
outlined in the staff report.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant
to address the commission.
MR. VICTOR VILLENEUVE, representing owner Mr. Greg Lahey,
stated that the owner would like to divide the lot to make it
more consistent with the surrounding lots. Mr. Villeneuve
stated that smaller lots have been divided in this area. He
felt the variance should be approved based on the parcel in
question not being consistent with the east lots, the division
would not be unique, and it would comply zoning requirements,
and noted that the Mentzer lot had recently been divided. He
indicated the division would bring the lot in conformance with
the east side lots.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed.
MR. GREG LAHEY, owner, informed commission that he visits the
property 6-7 times per year and has been the owner for 10
years. He felt that building his home on this lot would make
it over-scaled. He indicated that he has always kept the lot
free of debris. He noted that it is an old neighborhood
and indicated that small lots are the character of this tract.
Mr. Lahey outlined the size of the lots surrounding his
property. He felt that the only thing that has changed in this
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neighborhood in the last 10 years was deterioration and felt
his development of the property would promote neighborhood
improvement. He also indicated that some incentive was needed.
Commissioner Richards asked Mr. Lahey if he planned to developed the
property in the near future. Mr. Lahey replied maybe in four-five
months.
Chairman Crites closed the public testimony.
Commissioner Richards indicated that while it was a difficult
decision for staff to decide, he was persuaded to agree with the
applicant. Commissioner Whitlock was concerned about creating a
precedent. Chairman Crites stated that he was not persuaded by the
applicant because of the lot size. Commissioner Erwood agreed with
Commissioner Richards because the closer lots were smaller.
Commissioner Richards stated that the city was trying to promote
development in this area and noted that it would be for single
family development, which the city would like to have develop.
Commissioner Richards indicated that he would like to condition the
approval with a time frame, but felt it might be difficult for the
applicant.
Mr. Diaz indicated that if this variance was granted for 1200 square
feet, it might be difficult later on to deny 1300 square feet to
subdivide.
Chairman Crites also noted that the size of the lot would not
preclude development of that lot.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
instructing staff to prepare a resolution of approval for adoption
at the September 16, 1986 meeting. Carried 3-2 (Chairman Crites and
Commissioner Whitlock voting no. )
CHAIRMAN CRITES CALLED AT FIVE MINUTE RECESS AT 9:58 P.M.
H. Case No. PP 86-37 and PM 21812 - C.T.K.O., Applicants
Request for approval of a precise plan
implementing conditions of PM 21812 to allow
construction of a 117 bed convalescent ,
non-ambulatory skilled nursing facility and a
210 bed "residential group home" for the elderly
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on 10 acres in the PR-5 zone at Country Club and
Cook Street.
Ms. Sass outlined the salient points of the staff report and
described the amenities . Staff asked for commission
direction/determination for institutional uses.
Chairman Crites asked if the project met all requirements of the
senior overlay zone. Ms. Sass replied no.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked if the
applicant wished to address the commission.
MR. DICK OLIPHANT, applicant, felt the project needed
careful consideration and noted that the property in
question has been previously approved but wished to
improve and create a more liveable facility for seniors.
He noted that if the proposed project was not acceptable,
they would build the original project. He indicated they
would be licensed by the State of California and informed
commission that plans had to be submitted by November 1,
1986 or the certificate for nursing would expire. Mr.
Oliphant described the amenities that would be provided by
the project and stated that it wou 1 d be controlled by the
State Department of Social Services. He indicated that it
was an institutional facility under Title 22 and nursing by
State of California. He requested approval as an
institutional use.
Commissioner Whitlock asked if the applicant was considering the
whole project as institutional . Mr. Oliphant replied yes.
Commissioner Richards asked if staff could create a category for
institutional use. Mr. Diaz replied yes, but expressed concern for
similar projects in other zones asking for institutional use ( i .e.
R-1) which would not be allowed.
Commissioner Downs noted that the applicant was not asking for a
zone change. Commissioner Richards suggested approval without the
senior overlay zone. Commissioner Erwood indicated the project
could be allowed with a license requirement; Mr. Diaz replied that
Charter Communities was asking for the same thing but in a different
zone.
Chairman Crites asked commission what would be done with project
that are half and half because all fall under Title 22.
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Commissioner Richards stated that it appeared to be a straight
nursing home.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed.
MR. GEORGE MARZICOLA expressed concern for the five acre
parcels that have private easements. He felt that the city
needed to look to the future. Mr. Marzicola outlined the
background on how the easements/right-of-ways were granted by
the government in 1959. He indicated they were considered
collector streets and stated that there would be no way to
utilize existing access if they were cut off from Country Club.
He suggested moving the project 330 feet east to allow access.
Mr . Diaz stated that he did not believe it was the city's
responsibility to provide access to land locked parcels unless there
was a recorded easement. He also noted there was a moratorium in
effect for the north sphere area.
MR. CHARLES HAVER, 74-390 Highway 111, stated that no building
has taken place since 1975 and felt development was needed, but
not if it would be injurious. He felt that access should not
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Mr. Diaz felt that the city should not place itself in the position
of assuring access to land locked parcels. Mr. Erwin confirmed that
it would not be appropriate and was not a responsibility of the city.
Mr. Marzicola stated that the city has a responsibility for the well
being of all its citizens, with the ultimate concern for traffic
flow, storm drain, and emergency vehicle access.
MR. ROBERT BARTON, Charter Communities, stated that he was not
speaking in opposition to the project, but wished to express
concern over the lack of consistency within the city. He
stated that h i s project that has been approved has five levels
governed by Title 22 and the Department of Social Services and
the Department of Health and appealed to the commission to keep
a consistency within the city policy and licensing.
Mr. Oliphant noted that Mr. Marzicola would have access to Cook
Street. He asked that the commission consider that when the altius
project is built access would be provided.
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Commissioner Downs felt that the project met all the guidelines for No
institution use in the PR zone and was in favor of the project.
Commissioner Richards stated that the nursing home appears to be
compatible at this time. He noted that the city was in the middle
of a study with an outside consultant evaluating what should be
constructed in the north sphere. He indicated that this would be
the first project in this location. He also noted that a
convalescent/nursing home was being provided and not apartments.
Commissioner Richards felt the project was compatible with the
altius project and indicated that the Marzicola easement problem
would be solved with that land is developed. Institutional was
recommended without the senior overlay zone.
Chairman Crites stated that the area is under a moratorium and asked
what would happen if the project was approved and did not conform
with the consultant's recommendation of what should be built. Mr.
Diaz replied that the commission could rehear projects that have
obtained approval and then disapprove them, unless a building permit
has been issued. Mr. Erwin indicated that the commission could
Initiate the hearings.
Chairman Crites expressed concern for approving projects while
definitions have not been made. He felt that this project should
not be used as a definition just because it was submitted first.
Commissioner Erwood felt that it was a strict interpretation of a
nursing home. Chairman Crites indicated that a portion of the
project was not hospital and provided kitchens. Chairman Crites
felt that because commission was dealing with senior housing, they
would be setting standards as well as approving a project.
Commissioner Richards stated that this was the closest description
to a convalescent use that he had seen presented.
Chairman Crites felt that long-term problems might be created. Mr.
Diaz stated that if commission instructed staff to prepare a
resolution of approval this would allow two weeks for staff to meet
with the city attorney.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
instructing staff to prepare a resolution for approval , approving
C.T.K.O. as an "institutional" use. Carried 4-1 (Chairman Crites
voting no.)
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I. Case No. PP 86-39 - HELIOS I LTD, Applicant
Request for approval of a precise plan and
parcel map to allow construction of 150 apartment
units on 30 acres in the PR-5 zone at the
northeast corner of Country Club and Portola.
Ms. Sass outlined the salient points of the staff report and staff
concerns. Staff recommended approval .
Chairman Crites asked about the parking extension versus parking in
the driveway. Ms. Sass indicated cars could pull up in front of the
garage. Commissioner Erwood indicated that access should not cut off
to the garage. Chairman Crites asked if the two car minimum of
vehicular stacking would be sufficient. Ms. Sass replied that it
was standard.
Chairman Crites drew attention to public works condition #7 and
asked if the landscaping maintenance along Country Club required
bonding. Mr. Diaz replied that bonding should be required and was
included in public works condition #7.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked if the
applicant wished to address the commission.
MR. DAVE ISAACS, Laguna Nigel , expressed concern over the
elongated driveway. He felt it would not look good. He stated
that they were providing much more parking by a number of 10
compared to other projects that were presented earlier. He
felt that two parking spaces per unit would be fair. He noted
that it was very expensive to install below ground parking and
also noted that he was providing 27 guest parking facilities,
which equals 1 112 per unit.
Commissioner Richards indicated that the project was acceptable to
him. Mr. Isaacs stated they would be expensive rents. Commissioner
Richards expressed the desire to see more of these projects. Mr.
Isaacs indicated that he was not through with the financial aspects
for the case and might come back for a higher density.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed. There being no one, the public testimony
was closed.
Chairman Crites stated that he had concerns with the elongated
driveway.
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Mr. Diaz indicated that in this case staff had no concerns over the
parking. Commissioner Downs agreed with staff.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1180, approving PP 86-39,
subject to conditions as amended. Carried 5-0.
L. Case No. PP 86-40 - BREEZE AIR CONDITIONING, Applicant
Request for approval of a 22,533 square foot
industrial/office building located in a service
industrial zone at the west side of St. Charles
Place, 275 feet north of Mediterranean (Lots 32
& 33, Tract 13915) .
Mr. Smith outlined the salient points of the staff report and
indicated that a determination was needed from the commission as to
office areas in the industrial area becoming ancillary. Staff rrr1
recommended approval .
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant
to address the commission.
MR. RICK HOLDEN, representative, felt the issue was based on
the parking. He asked for approval of the project as presented.
Mr. Holden stated that twice as many parking spaces are required
for office than for a sheet metal operation.
Commissioner Richards indicated that the city has been having too
many industrial projects turn up as offices. Commissioner Richards
asked if staff felt there would be any parking problems. Mr. Smith
replied no. Commissioner Downs stated that parking was a problem at
all times during the day. He felt there was not enough parking on a
square foot basis.
Mr. Holden stated that 40% of the project would be office and that
they would provide 4 spaces per every 1000 square feet for parking
instead of 2 spaces per 1000 square feet.
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..► Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed. There being no one, the public testimony
was closed.
Chairman Crites asked if sheet metal was considered manufacturing or
warehouse. Commissioner Down replied manufacturing.
Mr. Holden noted that if 2 spaces were required per 1000 square feet
that would equal 45 spaces and the project has proposed 50 spaces.
Mr. Diaz indicated that if there wasn't enough parking provided,
complaints would be coming in and noted that the city was monitoring
the parking for Strother's development and felt there could be a
reduction of office space required if problems were determined.
Mr. Smith indicated that all future occupants complying with parking
requirements of the ordinance was included as a condition of
approval .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1181 , approving PP 86-40,
subject to conditions. Carried 5-0.
Chairman Crites asked how much will commission consider ancillary.
Commissioner Downs suggested 20%. Commission concurred.
VIIl. MISCELLANEOUS
A. Designation of Survey Area for Redevelopment Plan
Mr. Yrigoyen outlined the request and asked for approval by
adoption of the proposed resolution.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1182, selecting the
project area and approving the preliminary plan as set forth in the
attached exhibits. Carried 5-0.
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B. Lago de Palmas
Mr. Diaz indicated this item had been discussed during study
session and needed a minute motion to refer the matter to
council .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
referring to city council Lago de Palmas for review access onto
Portola by minute motion. Carried 5-0.
C. Ordinance Statement of Intent
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
determining that statement of intent for all ordinance shall be
first. Carried 5-0.
0. Santa Anita Development
After discussion, the planning commission reaffirmed its
previous decision based on the fact that the uses considered to
be related commercial uses can be liberally construed with the too
only limit being that the uses be related to a hotel .
Commission felt that a farmer's market would be unique and in
no way similar to the typical grocery store.
After further discussion on the appropriateness of this type of
development on this site, it was determined a better use than
more restaurants or hotels and commission felt it would be a
reasonable, logical , and desirable use for the property.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Erwood, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
reaffirming the previous approval in the PC (4) zone. Carried 3-2
(Commissioners Richards and Whitlock voting no. )
E. Zoning Ordinance Clarification
Commissioner Richards requested staff to prepare a zoning
ordinance amendment defining "congregate care" facilities and
clarification as to how they pertain to the senior overlay.
Commission concurred.
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`NW IX. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
A. MR. SANDY BAUM, 45-800 Deep Canyon, felt that with the approval
of the gas station under the PC (4) zone, it should also be
included in the zoning ordinance.
B. MR. PAUL GILMORE, ASL Consulting Engineers, stated that he was
told the meeting was to be held at 2:00 p.m. After receiving a
copy of the agenda and seeing the order of the agenda, he
came to the meeting one hour late and missed his case. He
asked for a brief summary of the action.
X. COMMENTS
None.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock, to
adjourn the meeting. Carried 5-0. The meeting was adjourned at
12:03 a.m.
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RAMON A. DIAZ, Sec At
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BUFORD,CRIT , Chairman
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